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Why Aion is a triumph?
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There are a lot of doom and gloom concerning Aion these days, and I feel particularly today. It is being compared to the last to hyped not so big successes; AoC and WAR and sometimes to L2 due to bots etc.
To be said is that people think it is worth while giving this game their attention; any news is better than no news. I guess the attention it gets is typical for the MMO community. Hype and interest before launch, doom and gloom afterwards. And it is for the game to prove whether it can withstand this mentality of doomsayers before the first critical 3 - 6 months are over.
So is Aion a triumph? When it comes to attention, for the time being: yes. When it comes to comparison with AoC and WAR, it seems far more well prepared and polished so I think Aion will far better then them. There are bots and gold sellers. Never played L2 myself. But the situation in Aion is at best irritating for now.
Aion is not a WoW clone, in fact it is not a clone of any game, it is more like genetic design. They have taken little bits and pieces from all major MMOs and put them all together with a highly polished yet rather superficial touch.
All in all I think so far it is a rather pleasant game, easy to like, but I fear also rather easy to forget.
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Wait 6 months- 1 year then come back and you will see what we meant...
still gives me the feel of a cheap korean grinder, i don't say the game is bad, i just say it gives me a cheap korean grinder feeling, probably cos its a grind, LOL
I love how people keep saying it feels like a cheap korean grinder. None of you would be saying that if you didn't know beforehand the game was developed in Korea. The game uses a western style of gameplay and the grind? Are you kidding me? The grind in games like Everquest and Vanguard dwarf that of Aion, the first 2 people to hit the cap took only about 2 weeks.
That is a grind now? Hah.
Aion will continue to do well. There is still very popular in asia after a year and there is no reason to assume it will be any different here.
2 weeks of 24/7 gaming. If you would play 6 hours a day it would mean 2months.
To topic. AoC and WAR was built on already known/familiar worlds. So there was more expectations to be met. Like AoC is cruel and bloody world. WAR is also about constant war between races.
As far as I know Aion has its own built storyline, world and everything.
Game isnt bad overall, it is polished to some degree, but it doesnt implement anything new to MMORPG. Or at least I dont see it.
It will hold some players for a bit but so long as WoW still lives no Fantasy MMO will do well, when the CAT. expac comes say good buy to what ever Fantasy mmo your playing, Im not saying that mmo will die It will not be larger then a 100k mmo with lack of funds to pump out content as they should.
The fantasy market will be and allways will be 75% WoW from not till the death of WoW by Its own hands because people are scared to change or give another game a chance because of the past games that didn't compair, If anything I think people will rather Quit MMO's for good then to play another mmo thats Fantasy because of WoWs dark cloud over the market.
It's the age of Sci Fi or WoW plain and simple.
2 weeks of 24/7 gaming. If you would play 6 hours a day it would mean 2months.
To topic. AoC and WAR was built on already known/familiar worlds. So there was more expectations to be met. Like AoC is cruel and bloody world. WAR is also about constant war between races.
As far as I know Aion has its own built storyline, world and everything.
Game isnt bad overall, it is polished to some degree, but it doesnt implement anything new to MMORPG. Or at least I dont see it.
Actually he played about 15 hours a day, so that would mean about 1 month of 7 hours a day, maybe a little more.
So there you have it, you can reach the cap in little over a month fairly easily. So unless you see mmorpgs are short time investments, the game isn't much of a grind.
This is all before the enormous XP boost many quests will get in a planned update.
heh I think AoC is actually a better game then Aion, ( i never liked WAR because i thought the gameplay was kinda crap). But honestly Aion is like a pretty box with nothing inside.
I played lineage 2 and think its a better game then Aion, the world of Aion is extremely small in comparison and damn Aion is not solo friendly at all. But seriously Aion is over a year old now, when you compare it to AoC (now) its not even in the same league. I'd literally rather play WoW again and walk around Dalaran all day then grind out another level in Aion.
Stop making posts like this like people didn't actually play Aion and realize for themselves.
PS i made it to level 39 i think the leveling is on par with every newer mmo, i actually think it took me a lot shorter to level in Aion than in original WoW. Aion leveling just literally felt like it was a job to me, it wasn't fun at all it was just boring like i couldn't describe. I've heard its just as bad when you hit level cap and /unsubscribe.
I wouldn't reccommend this game to anyone that is casual/solo player/ or likes variety/quests when they level.
Interesting word to use for the term "clone". Does not make it any less of a clone however.
the only doom and gloom you will hear about this game is on this site. People hate whats popular they do it to WoW. They do it to EVE.
Interesting word to use for the term "clone". Does not make it any less of a clone however.
It isn't a WoW clone if anything at all its Lineage 2 plus better graphics, a story, and alot less of a grind.
2 weeks of 24/7 gaming. If you would play 6 hours a day it would mean 2months.
Are we saying that 2 months is a long time to get to the cap in an MMO?
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Interesting word to use for the term "clone". Does not make it any less of a clone however.
It isn't a WoW clone if anything at all its Lineage 2 plus better graphics, a story, and alot less of a grind.
It has far more in common with WoW than Lineage 2.
Interesting word to use for the term "clone". Does not make it any less of a clone however.
It isn't a WoW clone if anything at all its Lineage 2 plus better graphics, a story, and alot less of a grind.
It has far more in common with WoW than Lineage 2.
How besides game controls, which almost all mmo's have copied from EQ.
Interesting word to use for the term "clone". Does not make it any less of a clone however.
It isn't a WoW clone if anything at all its Lineage 2 plus better graphics, a story, and alot less of a grind.
It has far more in common with WoW than Lineage 2.
How besides game controls, which almost all mmo's have copied from EQ.
Flight paths.
Quest designed gameplay
Faction vs Faction PVP
Casual approach.
What does it have in common with Lineage 2?
All other clone/grind/whatever talk aside, Aion will fail because it is not fun.
The characters are too one-dimensional. Its an easy game to get some cheap thrills from early on, but right about the time you hit level 35 and realize you are playing your character the exact same way as when you were level 5, it sinks in that the game is fundamentally boring.
Compare this to another NCSoft game, Guild Wars, which has countless numbers of skills to choose from and styles of play... Aion has about 25 unique skills per class, and you use the same combination of these skills in 99% of encounters, pvp or pve. No wonder macros work so well? You could practically macro pvp.
So yeah, I got bored of my own character (ranger) and quit. I could have stood the grind if I felt like I had something different to look forward to endgame, but its just the same ol' shit with larger numbers popping up.
You and I do not share the same opinion of what a Grind is. You and a large number of fast satisfaction MMO, WoW generation gamers consider grinding related directly to the time it takes to level. So, if you can reach max cap in 2 weeks, it must not be a grind, right?
Wrong.
To me a grind is when you mindlessly kill x of this y of that or just grind away killing mobs without the veneer of crappy Aion-style quests to level. That is all Aion, especially is, silly quests meant to make you think you are not grinding. Vanguard, (and other games that actually have a nice PvE experience) by comparison have rich, interesting quests and settings in which to play them.
So what if takes longer to level, it about the gaming experience, not the Aion/WoW styled rush to 'end game'.
2 weeks of 24/7 gaming. If you would play 6 hours a day it would mean 2months.
To topic. AoC and WAR was built on already known/familiar worlds. So there was more expectations to be met. Like AoC is cruel and bloody world. WAR is also about constant war between races.
As far as I know Aion has its own built storyline, world and everything.
Game isnt bad overall, it is polished to some degree, but it doesnt implement anything new to MMORPG. Or at least I dont see it.
6hrs a day for 2 months and your at max lvl... thats a grind? really?? the problem is not Aion or any other current MMO being a grind, the problem is the microwave world we now live in, everyone wants everything instant. 2 months to hit max lvl is nowhere near a grind, its called smart MMO (monthly subs) game design.
And for the last staement about not adding anything new to the MMO world... there isn't anything new to add. Sorry, but there isn't anyway to create a quest that hasn't (mechanics wise) been created already, there is not any combat system that is not already in use... Try playing a single player MMO, your not going to find much that has not already been done. They could maybe put in perma death... ohhhh nooo people would complain, so ??? what then??? how bout some of you that make that staement toss some ideas that have not been done yet AND CAN ACTUALLY been acomplished...
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The question is how long was it until WAR and AoC were universally deemed to have "failed" amongst MMO players? I remember AoC going down pretty quickly, not much happening after the first month, but WAR took a bit longer, 2-3 months until most players had left?
Aion will no doubt go the same way as WAR and AoC, it's just a matter of time. The forums are a massacre and from what I hear the server population has taken a big hit too.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=age+of+conan,+warhammer,+aion&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
http://www.xfire.com/games/aion/Aion_The_Tower_of_Eternity/
Xfire and google trends pretty much show the game has lost a lot of interest, but what does it take for people to finally accept it has flopped? Server merges?
You and I do not share the same opinion of what a Grind is. You and a large number of fast satisfaction MMO, WoW generation gamers consider grinding related directly to the time it takes to level. So, if you can reach max cap in 2 weeks, it must not be a grind, right?
Wrong.
To me a grind is when you mindlessly kill x of this y of that or just grind away killing mobs without the veneer of crappy Aion-style quests to level. That is all Aion, especially is, silly quests meant to make you think you are not grinding. Vanguard, (and other games that actually have a nice PvE experience) by comparison have rich, interesting quests and settings in which to play them.
So what if takes longer to level, it about the gaming experience, not the Aion/WoW styled rush to 'end game'.
Its clear you dont like Aion, and I dont begrudge you for that, to each his own, I have gone back to AoC, but amthinking about resubbing Vanguard next month) however, if you think the quest being done in Vanguard (love that game) are any different than the ones in Aion your mistaken. All quest fall into two types
1. Take this item/message from guy A and give it to guy B
2. Go kill x amount of mobs and return.
You can dress them in different kinds of story (my guess is that you enjoy the way Vanguard does it better than Aion, which is cool) but the quest is the exact same, just presented in a different package.
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And Aion fails because it's the SAME regurgitated gameplay that has been in MMOs for the whole decade. Once the cute graphics wear off you're basically doing the same shit you were doing in your previous MMO, so if you're bored of that you're already bored of Aion. They could spice it up by adding some kind of original or fleshed-out content, but they don't even bother to do that, it's a grindfest basically with the same 3 PvE zones to take you from levels 20 to 50 and once you hit max level there's nothing to do except farm Dark Poeta and Fortresses. Anyone who claims to enjoy this is either kidding themself or would explode in fatal orgasm if they actually played a decent game.
2 weeks of 24/7 gaming. If you would play 6 hours a day it would mean 2months.
To topic. AoC and WAR was built on already known/familiar worlds. So there was more expectations to be met. Like AoC is cruel and bloody world. WAR is also about constant war between races.
As far as I know Aion has its own built storyline, world and everything.
Game isnt bad overall, it is polished to some degree, but it doesnt implement anything new to MMORPG. Or at least I dont see it.
Actually he played about 15 hours a day, so that would mean about 1 month of 7 hours a day, maybe a little more.
So there you have it, you can reach the cap in little over a month fairly easily. So unless you see mmorpgs are short time investments, the game isn't much of a grind.
This is all before the enormous XP boost many quests will get in a planned update.
15 hours a day? Can u say no lifer??. jesus anyone who play any mmo 15 bloody hours a day needs to get a grip. Of course if anyone blioody plays a game 15 hours a day they can reach the lvl cap easy.
Interesting word to use for the term "clone". Does not make it any less of a clone however.
Alganon is WoW clone,Allods is WoW clone,Warhammer is WoW clone.Aion is more Lineage clone with features to make more western friendly than WoW clone.Calling Aion a "wow clone" is like calling Halo and Gear of Wars a "Doom Clones" or "Quake" clone.They have things in common because they are in same genre.
The funniest thing is the thing that make Aion a WoW clone where in games like EQ,DAOC and UO which predate WoW.Funny don't you think
Not possible, Halo invented FPS. Doom is a Halo clone.
L2 and WoW are surprisingly close to each other. As much as Aion is a L2 clone, it's a WoW clone as well.
This. The difference between L2 is WoW is one made you progress slowly through the levels grinding the same outdoor zones for a few months.. and one made you progress quickly though the levels and then grind the same instances for a few months.
Not possible, Halo invented FPS. Doom is a Halo clone.
L2 and WoW are surprisingly close to each other. As much as Aion is a L2 clone, it's a WoW clone as well.
Are you high, or just really young? Doom was a FPS in early 90's long before XBoX existed.... (1993)