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wamumor
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I am looking to buy a MMORPG, but I am not sure which one. I would have asked this question in the DAoC forum or the WoW forum, but I would get a biased answer. Please only post if you have played both of these games. Which game do you think I should get, DAoC or WoW? If you know of a better Fantasy MMORPG, please tell me about it, thanks.
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Well I have played WOW DAOC and EQ2
and WOW just seems to have there shit right,.
The game gives you somthing to work for and you dont have to keep killing bats for 20 hours and then move to rabits and kill those for another 20 hours. Quest are alot easyer to do in this game,and there fun. I have 3 lvl 15 charecters in this game and each class of charecter feels like your playing a entierly different game each time. the way the let you create items like armor and wepons is fun you can find almost all of the items you need to make stuff by killing things or mining or skinning creatures.
EQ2 was decent but it is just like every other MMRPG out there, there is notthing new with this game. I played for 2 weeks and gave it to a friend he played it for 1 week and quit.
DAOC alot of killing the same crap over and over and over again I cant stand this game, I would not play it if it was shareware.
So If you want a fun game go with WOW
DAoC is a good game,especially once you get past the grind and get up to levels 15+ and get to the battlefields!Once your there,then its PvP heaven!Just dont go alone...
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I dislike both because PvP is not my focus.
However, I play DAoC 2 weeks, while WoW 15 hours only. (and EQ2 for a week)
DAoC seem much better to me, and to have 3 factions PvP is a LOT better then 2 factions, since if a side is stronger, the others 2 stop fighting each others and focus on killing the winning side.
Mythic Entertainment focus a lot on improving their game, especially on the issues others games have, I assume they will see the majors issues in WoW and change their game accordingly. It is easier to see others weakness then your own.
DAoC buffing system is my favorite pro-DAoC argument where they indeed find a working solution that is nice for all!
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
I've played both games, and I gotta say DAoC really didn't hold my interest. It was boring and got old real quick. WoW is far, far superior and I'm having a lot of fun with it right now.
I'd get WoW if I were you.
I havent played DAoC however i do have a lvl 54 chara on WoW. Honestly wow is really overrated, its fun till u reach the top area and figure out that the game is over. If u like hardcore lvling wow is not for you, also if u love pvp wow is not for you. Wow claims to have a good pvp system, but trust me it has been ruined. The game has alot of potential but as it stands right now its no better than a game ranking 6 points.
Pvp is the same as all other games, however, the main base of pvping in wow is raiding. Thats one of the main reasons i started playing it, but only to find out that they screwed it over and made raiding towns useless, and allmost impossible. Battlegrounds will be crap for the main reason that its going to be an instance... instead of a regular town used by all. Also the soon to come"Beloved" honor system will ruin pking totally, all ganking will end and all killing of someone 10 lvls below u will stop.
Pvp is the same as all other games, however, the main base of pvping in wow is raiding. Thats one of the main reasons i started playing it, but only to find out that they screwed it over and made raiding towns useless, and allmost impossible. Battlegrounds will be crap for the main reason that its going to be an instance... instead of a regular town used by all. Also the soon to come"Beloved" honor system will ruin pking totally, all ganking will end and all killing of someone 10 lvls below u will stop.
beside the fact that what you say is all to be confirmed as Blizzard's honor system might not include players, i think a system that would PREVENT ganking would be excellent!
Come on now! don't tell me that the good of pvp is killing people 10+ level below you that have 0 chance of winning??
Battleground is a great idea, DAoC has them as well if you didn't notice and they are very entertaining. There they are just for training, so to speak, but in WoW, if they make them right, will give you a real warcraft experience.
Anyhow, it does boils down that PvP in DAoC, at the moment, is better than WoW as the latter is clearly incomplete. The rest of WoW beats DAoC hands down without questions. More atmosphere, classess more interesting to play, more quests and really well made, more art.
I do like DAoC, but i think WoW is superior. Have a nice day.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
Well I've played DaoC few years, and I gotta say its PvE grind hell. All you do in that game is beat the crap outta mobs, move to next room and kill more to get levels, only thing good in DaoC is pvp (RvR). Although it gets quite simple once in a while. But keep raidings etc are nice, but requires lots of work to get that far. Trials of atlantis (expansion set), made the pve grind even more terrible. It takes like 3 months to get decent rvr character, if you want to be good that is, and get into decent groups.
Wow in other hand, is mucho fun, if I was you, atleast try WoW out.
DAOC alot of killing the same crap over and over and over again I cant stand this game, I would not play it if it was shareware.
WoW is no different. I don't play either anymore but played DAOC for longer.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
I loved DAOC and played it for a year. The PvP system is like non other mmorpg.
PvP in DAOC is pretty much defending keeps from other neighboring countries with seige weapons and sheer brute force and magic. The country with the most keeps gets bonuses to damage, magic, ect. You can also capture enemy relics to gain additional bonuses. Sometimes seiges can go on for hours. I loved the system and I am sure you would too.
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Even if you wanted WoW so bad you'd be willing to sell your soul for it, you can't buy it. Blizzard is still holding back on releasing new copies until they can handle any more players.
I say go for DaoC and make sure you buy the Catacombs expansion to improve the character model graphics.
The quests are as fun as WoW, just don't expect too much help at the beginning cause most players are at high levels. Or I could be wrong considering I've been hearing a lot of people trying out DaoC lately and those newbies should be in the game as we speak. Group with them.
The fun part is when you start a new character, you're automatically inserted in a newbie Guild with people to talk with. Talk with them, make friends, group hunt together... or solo! The game isn't that hard and is quite soloable to a certain point.
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Mate, preorder guild wars. This is the best online experience that you can have.
no grind, awesom pvp ( no awesom is too weak word ... ) no monthly fees, otherwise you will get grinding till you are sick of these games.
It is a nice theory to avoid the particular forums to get an unbiased decision. I do have to say that so far these posts have been better than I would have expected. But still there is going to be bias.
First it is really hard to get a copy of WoW. Second, there are having some big technical issues. Both of those make it very dificult right now. However, putting those considerations aside for now it all depends on what you want.
WoW is new. These means a lot of new people so it will be easy to find a group and get playing. It is also very easy to level. So if you want to rush to max out your level it is very easy. Essentially do not look for any PvE or leveling challenge. The quests are very good int erms of experience and interest.
WoW has different graphics. They are cartoonish and because of that it turns some people off. It is a matter of style.
WoW is new so it has less content than game that have been around for awhile.
WoW only has two realms. In DAOC you have three. In DAOC you have 45 classes available. You can have 10 characters per server.
WoW has an incomplete PvP (RvR) system. Even when completed it will still be lacking behind DAOC in a few areas. The Battlegrounds in WoW will have population limits. The Battlegrounds for the moment will be limited to those characters near max level. In DAOC you can start playing RvR at level 1 now. You can actually level up by simply playing in the Battlegrounds. While a possibility, I have never heard of it happening below level 20.
DAOC has added a substantial amount of new player content. It is very easy to level now. They even give you free levels. The quests very from detailed to very easy. In fact my level 28 character made 1/2 a level from doing about 4 quests. It took a total of 30-45 minutes. The only reason it took that long was the person I was grouped with didn't get a drop when I did so we had to keep killing for a few more minutes.
They are also revamping the starting system so more by adding more quests, a tutorial, and moving some things around in the next patch. By this summer they will have a huge free patch that will redo all of the 'classic' zones. Each expansion they upgrade the graphics, but now they are actually going to be doing some major work to revitilze the older areas all for free.
The two biggest issues with DAOC right now are its population and ToA. Many player feel ToA is necessary and a huge waste of time. I do not think so, but enough people have thought so that they are making earning aritifacts and master levels easier and substantially quicker. As for population they have too many servers now. To solve the problem they will be 'clustering' the servers. This will allow all of the RvR areas to be shared by all of the servers on that cluster. Hence very large RvR battles will once again happen. The Battlegrounds should have even more people in them. Clustering will also allow you to teleport to other servers for groups in PvE if you want.
The hardest part about DAOC will be finding groups before level 20 and before clustering goes live someime in Feb. Peope will be leveling up their new classes and there are always a few new players on. Even if you have to solo you can make level 20 in about 10 hours of game play. You will find most people in DAOC will be nice and helpful. Will answer your questions, sometimes give you money and armor as long as you are not some beggar.
I would recomened DAOC for most players at the moment. It has more way more content and better RvR. Once WoW finishes its RvR system and then balances some issues out then that might change, but not any time soon. I woul say pick one of the higher population servers to start, but since clustering will be live soon you might want to pick one of the lower ones because I think the RvR will be better on those.
If you were to not listen to one comment on a game it would have to be that wow is different from any other mmo grinding sake. FFS! wow is the same grind all other games are, except there is nothing to look forward to, i have played both, DAoC on and off for about 4 years (through highschool and now) i played wow for the free month and realized it was the same thing, except pvp is too hard, because higher levels can kill you easy, in daoc you can pvp against others of the same levels usually like from 20 to 24 25 to 29 ect. DAoC has instance dungeons with catacomb expansions to solo alone or with a group, they raised xp gain and loot gain. I been hearing around recently that a lot of people are getting to 20 in one sitting ( but like all day ).
So you shouldnt listen to anyone that says "in wow you dont have to kill anything practically you can just do quest (i remember up to 18 all i did was quest to kill stuff). Bunch of crap, all the games are the same in this sense.
oh yeah sorry for blabbing i just woke up.
I've played them both and they both have things I like.
WOW is great for someone who is a true newbie to mmorpgs, it's just easy to jump in and start playing right away. On the negative side there are too few classes in WOW, I haven't found one that really fits me, while in DAOC I found several I like. Also the character advancement is too limited in WOW right now, it's just too easy to max out a character.
DAOC has the best class system of any game in my opinion, there is a huge selection and within each class you can specialize how you want so there is alot of diversity and you can make a truly unique character if you want. Also the character development is much deeper than WOW at the moment and you could essentially play for years and not max out your toon.
Both are great games but WOW is probably better for the true newbie.
Thanks for the replies! I failed to mention that I have played WoW, but just at my friends house and only got to level 7. So I was just curious to see what you guys had to say about each. I want to try something different from WoW, I think I will pick up a copy of DAoC.
i would say wow if u are new to this genre.. but daoc its a good game but kinda hard too get into now with all the expanison packs tough. at least try out the 14 days trial before u buy it. good luck
The grind in DAOC sucks. WOW is much better. I get caught up in the quests and thats a lot more fun
Also if you play on a PVP sever with WOW you can PVP whenever you want, even at lower levels.
DAOC had low level PVP areas but they were always empty.
WoW simply because its newer and more low levels to play with.
WoW has a better PvE too but when it comes to PvP yes DAoC is miles ahead.
But really to start on a 3 year old game with not many new players can be fustrating so i say go with WoW.
^ What he said.....
All the people that said WoW PvP is way better dont know what theyre talking about....in WoW there is no real point to PvP....while in DAoC...you can control territory,raise guild stats/money....ect...ect....WoW,bragging rights.....
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You either have not played or have not played in a long time. The grinding in DAOC is about the least you are going to find in an MMORPG now. They even give you free levels if you want them!
Second, for years now DAOC has a PvP server. There are no realms. You are free to make any character you want. The guilds and alliances fight each other. So if you want total PvP then DAOC has it. It is not just in the Frontier either, in most areas of the game excpet the capital cities and a couple other places you are free to kill each other if that is what you want. My point is that it is not just reserved low level areas that no one is in. Besides if you get to level 20 which can be done very quickly you will have all the RvR action you want from then on most of the time.
But right now there is no comparassion in terms of RvR (or PvP) between DAOC and WoW. DAOC is so much better now, but it has been out for years.