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No new races is really disappointing

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  • VaultFairyVaultFairy Member UncommonPosts: 566

    Would of been nice to get new races but in a way least I know what race i'm going to be. Would love to play as Moogle too KUPO! =3

  • KhrymsonKhrymson Member UncommonPosts: 3,090
    Originally posted by VaultFairy


    Would of been nice to get new races but in a way least I know what race i'm going to be. Would love to play as Moogle too KUPO! =3

     

    Take it you havn't read any of the interviews or much of this thread!  There is the possibility of at least one and possibly two new races yet to be announced.  Whenever asked SE doesn't say no, but rather "we have yet to announce anything further, but stay tuned for more information as its released" plus the Mural clearly shows different races even though SE is denying it for now!

  • VaultFairyVaultFairy Member UncommonPosts: 566
    Originally posted by Khrymson

    Originally posted by VaultFairy


    Would of been nice to get new races but in a way least I know what race i'm going to be. Would love to play as Moogle too KUPO! =3

     

    Take it you havn't read any of the interviews or much of this thread!  There is the possibility of at least one and possibly two new races yet to be announced.  Whenever asked SE doesn't say no, but rather "we have yet to announce anything further, but stay tuned for more information as its released" plus the Mural clearly shows different races even though SE is denying it for now!

     

    No I havn't got to page 3 and auto pager was repeating the same page and so I gave up. Moogle, Viera and Nu Mou!! Hmm... How about those 3?! Or is it too FFTA?!.... Guess we can wait and see, but it's nice to guess though and keep the imagination flowing.

  • ZorakGhostalZorakGhostal Member Posts: 122

     What gets me is the new names. I really don't understand this decision at all. Same races, but different names? Whats the point? Are we supposed to be conned into thinking they are new? Why even bother changing the names? I can only think there is going to be some explanation in the lore, but otherwise it seems like a very bizarre choice.... and who came up with lalafell? wtf... 

  • KhrymsonKhrymson Member UncommonPosts: 3,090
    Originally posted by ZorakGhostal


     What gets me is the new names. I really don't understand this decision at all. Same races, but different names? 
    and who came up with lalafell? wtf... 

     

    New world, new game, new adventure, and all the races but Hyur have had major physical changes to them!

     

    • Miqo'te ~ Bushier and multi-colored tails now, and larger eyes...looks very Japanese too me...love it!
    • Roegadyn ~ Taller, and stockier legs and more mountainous humanoid shaped, no tails!
    • Elezen ~ Much better proportioned, shorter arm length, shorter necks!
    • Lalafell ~ Taller, and have appendages with joints!

     

    I like all the names a lot....and glad they are different cause not everyone is gonna just drop FFXI, so when you're talking about one or the other and someone says Mithra you'll know they're talking about FFXI and not FFXIV cause they're Miqo'te there!

     

    Lalafell is cute, but Miqo'te is my favorite of them all~

  • YaguerYaguer Member Posts: 4

    After reading three pages into this thread including the sixth one, I agree with some posters regarding that the races simply were just re-clothed and postage stamped into the new one. I can rationalize and agree with my rationalization that they wanted to have familiarity, which I think is a good thing, but it is disappointing that they decided to just have the same races. Some of y'all bring up  rumorously that there could be "other races", that isn't certain, just speculation. Square Enix is completely certain on not revealing new information unless it's in their intention, so them being sly about their responses shouldn't be taken as signs from God lol. If anything, we should accept the fact that these five are here to stay, besides, I am personally fine with these five that's all the game needs for launch. Though, again I was disappointed in seeing the same races, yet set in a completely new world that reminds me of Final Fantasy twelve.

    Someone in this thread mentioned it should be based in Ivalice, I think that would be grand as I loved that world. It's amazing to think FF12 takes place 10,000 years before FFTactics. Makes you think about that airship graveyard yet in FF12 airships were commonplace almost like Star Wars-esque. Pretty sad too. Oh well.

  • JenadaraJenadara Member Posts: 95
    Originally posted by mrroboto40


    TBH, I'd rather they focus on gameplay then add races that just spin-off something from another IP, the graphics in this game are already amazing, they don't need to add any new races.

     

    QFT

  • ant211ant211 Member Posts: 54

    i really liked the races in ffxi, im glad to see them back. i for the most part like the alterations so far, most definately on the elvaan/elezen. not too sure how i feel about the changes on lalafell though, think i prefer taru.

    those bunny characters (viera?) from xii look good, stick them in 14!

  • skoreanimeskoreanime Member Posts: 219
    Originally posted by Jenadara

    Originally posted by mrroboto40


    TBH, I'd rather they focus on gameplay then add races that just spin-off something from another IP, the graphics in this game are already amazing, they don't need to add any new races.

     

    QFT

     

    QFTx2.  Every other fantasy style MMO is elves, some midget race, some humanoid race and just different iterations of it, like a one that's a bit feline and another that's a bit canine...

     

    And don't hold your breath for another playable race.  It makes no sense whatever for SE to have announced the playable races, fill out their bio on their websites and then add in another one or two a couple months later?  No.  That's just down right retarded.

  • KhrymsonKhrymson Member UncommonPosts: 3,090
    Originally posted by skoreanime



     
    And don't hold your breath for another playable race.  It makes no sense whatever for SE to have announced the playable races, fill out their bio on their websites and then add in another one or two a couple months later?  No.  That's just down right retarded.

     

    That's called smart marketing, and getting players heavily interested!  Every MMO does this...you don't reveal everything your game offers at the first press release...the announcement of the classic FFXI races is the first step at targeting your current core FFXI crowd which is SE's main target interested {do I need to get the quote for you...hehe}  There are players out there that are not interested in the game yet because its too similar to FFXI, and offers nothing new to them yet, but the target crowd thus far is happy because of that familiarity.

    Then a few months later SE reveals new details, like a new race and more classes that are more targeted towards those players that were not interested in FFXI and walked away before.  However; this time the new details; they like and are now interested in playing.

  • skoreanimeskoreanime Member Posts: 219
    Originally posted by skoreanime

    Originally posted by Jenadara

    Originally posted by mrroboto40


    TBH, I'd rather they focus on gameplay then add races that just spin-off something from another IP, the graphics in this game are already amazing, they don't need to add any new races.

     

    QFT

     

    QFTx2.  Every other fantasy style MMO is elves, some midget race, some humanoid race and just different iterations of it, like a one that's a bit feline and another that's a bit canine...

     

     

    Since you seem to like cutting off peoples posts in your quotes, I'll reiterate it.

    Keep hoping for new races at launch, but it's highly unlikely. Instead of new playable races, SEs hinting at unique clans for the races. But they'll all be iterations of something in the past. Races aren't important to me, like SE put it, they main difference between them is just visual.

    The playable race page looks finished to me. They can always change it and add a new one or two, of course, but I can only see that happening in an expansion or major update.



     

  • zanfirezanfire Member UncommonPosts: 970
    Originally posted by skoreanime

    Originally posted by skoreanime

    Originally posted by Jenadara

    Originally posted by mrroboto40


    TBH, I'd rather they focus on gameplay then add races that just spin-off something from another IP, the graphics in this game are already amazing, they don't need to add any new races.

     

    QFT

     

    QFTx2.  Every other fantasy style MMO is elves, some midget race, some humanoid race and just different iterations of it, like a one that's a bit feline and another that's a bit canine...

     

     

    Since you seem to like cutting off peoples posts in your quotes, I'll reiterate it.

    Keep hoping for new races at launch, but it's highly unlikely. Instead of new playable races, SEs hinting at unique clans for the races. But they'll all be iterations of something in the past. Races aren't important to me, like SE put it, they main difference between them is just visual.

    The playable race page looks finished to me. They can always change it and add a new one or two, of course, but I can only see that happening in an expansion or major update.



     

    i agree, new races are not entirely needed, SE defnitly changed them around so its not like were getting the same exact things.

    i do have to say i was a little dissapointed myself that they were not using other staple races from FF series (like others said, the Ivalice races would have been perfect, though ud have to make the world ivalice which would change alot) but i was gunna play a human or elf anyways.

    I really wouldnt expect a new race if its not out the gate, there is just no point for it. 1 character can play everything and since they said the starting status would be much less of a factor this time (wich im happy about) the only purpose of the race is mainly cosmetic. you wouldnt  see anyone wanting to start all over a year or so into the game just to have a new look, and im pretty sure SE knows that (hence why we never had new ones in XI)

    they avoid the hell out of the "is there more races" question and not once have said no flat out, so its very likely we will have atleast  1 other varient or race that they are just hiding away.  Just give it some time and it will eventually pop up, though im guessing later then sooner.

  • neonakaneonaka Member UncommonPosts: 779

    This is the Sole reason I will NOT be trying, or even looking at FFXIV. The Races..

    If I wanted to play a Taru, Galka, Elvaan, Hume or Mithra I would just play FFXI.

    I don't care that you changed the names to some stupid variation or changed them completely. Bottom line is Square/Enix with it's infinite funds from the FF Franchise couldn't take the time and effort to make new unique races... Garbage.

    This is hands down the most disappointing thing I have ever seen in an MMO.

    Square broke its own #1 cardinal rule of FF games with this. Every FF game until this point was suppose to be different, every FF until this point has had unique characters and race changes, and every FF story is supposed to be unique. This game just butt secks that all to death. (Note they kinda screwed the pooch with X2 but no one seemed to care since it was more of a continuation)

    There are some rules Square always followed for every FF game, like every one has a chocobo or some variation of a chocobo. Every FF has some mention to Cid. They have a few quirks they like to follow.

    Somewhere along the line though, they got EXTREMELY LAZY and due to this have now lost a long time FF Fan.

    I am not some random whiner, I own EVERY FF game in both American and Japanese formats, from the Famicom, Superfamicom to the Nintendo / Super Nintendo, through the PSone, PS2, Wii, everything, If it was made by Square/Enix I own it. Brave Fencer Musashi, Chrono Trigger/ Chrono Cross, Xenogears... I could go on for hours listing all the shit I have backed these people by.

     

    That has all came to an end with the announcement of this game. I have now lost all faith in Square, I won't even be buying FF13 FF13 versus or anything after it on the console. That is how pissed off I am about the laziness of this games creation.

     

    F**K Square/ Enix

     

  • zanfirezanfire Member UncommonPosts: 970
    Originally posted by neonaka


    This is the Sole reason I will NOT be trying, or even looking at FFXIV. The Races..
    If I wanted to play a Taru, Galka, Elvaan, Hume or Mithra I would just play FFXI.
    I don't care that you changed the names to some stupid variation or changed them completely. Bottom line is Square/Enix with it's infinite funds from the FF Franchise couldn't take the time and effort to make new unique races... Garbage.
    This is hands down the most disappointing thing I have ever seen in an MMO.
    Square broke its own #1 cardinal rule of FF games with this. Every FF game until this point was suppose to be different, every FF until this point has had unique characters and race changes, and every FF story is supposed to be unique. This game just butt secks that all to death. (Note they kinda screwed the pooch with X2 but no one seemed to care since it was more of a continuation)
    There are some rules Square always followed for every FF game, like every one has a chocobo or some variation of a chocobo. Every FF has some mention to Cid. They have a few quirks they like to follow.
    Somewhere along the line though, they got EXTREMELY LAZY and due to this have now lost a long time FF Fan.
    I am not some random whiner, I own EVERY FF game in both American and Japanese formats, from the Famicom, Superfamicom to the Nintendo / Super Nintendo, through the PSone, PS2, Wii, everything, It it was made by Square/Enix I own it. Brave Fencer Musashi, Crono Trigger/ Chrono Cross, Xenogears... I could go on for hours listing all the shit I have backed these people by.
     
    That has all came to an end with the announcement of this game. I have now lost all faith in Square, I won't even be buying FF13 FF13 versus or anything after it on the console. That is how pissed off I am about the laziness of this games creation.
     
    F**K Square/ Enix
     

    ^^^ lets not feed the troll

     

  • neonakaneonaka Member UncommonPosts: 779

    Yeah that's what I am a troll

    For what?

    Having an opinion that differs from yours?

    gg

  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357
    Originally posted by neonaka


    I am not some random whiner,  

    Exactly.. You're a fanboy, the worst kind of whiner.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • zanfirezanfire Member UncommonPosts: 970
    Originally posted by neonaka


    Yeah that's what I am a troll
    For what?
    Having an opinion that differs from yours?
    gg

    but just to give a quick example (not sure why you are basing an MMO {not offline rpg} by just the characters, wich are purely cosmetic) but anyways have you played FFTA, FFTA2, FFXII? they all have the same races, based in the same world...so you must hate them....how about ff1-10, thy all basicly had just humans ...so you must hate them for that...sad attempt to troll.....seriously

    make a logical argument and we shall go from there.

  • neonakaneonaka Member UncommonPosts: 779
    Originally posted by Hyanmen

    Originally posted by neonaka


    I am not some random whiner,  

    Exactly.. You're a fanboy, the worst kind of whiner.

     

    I do not consider myself a "fanboy".

    A fan (until this game was announced) sure.

    I might own them all but you never heard me say that all FF games were great games. Some of them are garbage in my opinion. I bought them anyway because I knew that at a minimum they would be different and story good or bad, and offer something new.

    Which FFXIV seems it will not do.

    To be a "fanboy" you have to back something regardless if it sucks ass or not. The FF games have more good in the series than bad, but some of the games were just horrible.

    That being said, quite tossing around random words like "fanboy" which you do not even seem to know what the meaning to it is.

  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357
    Originally posted by neonaka


    I own EVERY FF game in both American and Japanese formats, from the Famicom, Superfamicom to the Nintendo / Super Nintendo, through the PSone, PS2, Wii, everything, If it was made by Square/Enix I own it. Brave Fencer Musashi, Chrono Trigger/ Chrono Cross, Xenogears... I could go on for hours listing all the shit I have backed these people by.
     

    I do.

    Just because you don't like every SE game doesn't make you any less of a fanboy; the opposite, actually.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • zanfirezanfire Member UncommonPosts: 970
    Originally posted by neonaka

    Originally posted by Hyanmen

    Originally posted by neonaka


    I am not some random whiner,  

    Exactly.. You're a fanboy, the worst kind of whiner.

     

    I do not consider myself a "fanboy".

    A fan (until this game was announced) sure.

    I might own them all but you never heard me say that all FF games were great games. Some of them are garbage in my opinion. I bought them anyway because I knew that at a minimum they would be different and story good or bad, and offer something new.

    Which FFXIV seems it will not do.

    To be a "fanboy" you have to back something regardless if it sucks ass or not. The FF games have more good in the series than bad, but some of the games were just horrible.

    That being said, quite tossing around random words like "fanboy" which you do not even seem to know what the meaning to it is.

    the only thing they kept from FFXI was the races....thats it, EVERYTHING else is basicaly diffrent, classes, world, story, lore..ect

    but its a good thing you arent going to be there, we are all that much happier knowing one more idiot fanboy is not going to be ruining the game for us XD

  • neonakaneonaka Member UncommonPosts: 779
    Originally posted by zanfire

    Originally posted by neonaka


    Yeah that's what I am a troll
    For what?
    Having an opinion that differs from yours?
    gg

    but just to give a quick example (not sure why you are basing an MMO {not offline rpg} by just the characters, wich are purely cosmetic) but anyways have you played FFTA, FFTA2, FFXII? they all have the same races, based in the same world...so you must hate them....how about ff1-10, thy all basicly had just humans ...so you must hate them for that...sad attempt to troll.....seriously

    make a logical argument and we shall go from there.

     

    Because what you say isn't logical, as it seems you have not even played any of the FF games yourself. Most of them do have humanoid races. FF9 being the exception, and I guess you could say 7 since red13 was an animal. That is beside the point.

    Also it was fine to continue a story as in tactics or FFX and X2.

    BUT

    If you take a FF game, and you have 5 races, and 5 years or so later you make a NEW FF GAME and the ONLY THING you change is removing the Galkas TAIL and the other 4 out of 5 races look IDENTICAL to another game you made. That is lazy and incompetent garbage. I am sorry.

    They didn't even spruce them up at all, I mean they basically took the damn game files from 11 and high ressed them some and pasted them into the 14 game file folder. G A R B A G E.

  • zanfirezanfire Member UncommonPosts: 970
    Originally posted by neonaka

    Originally posted by zanfire

    Originally posted by neonaka


    Yeah that's what I am a troll
    For what?
    Having an opinion that differs from yours?
    gg

    but just to give a quick example (not sure why you are basing an MMO {not offline rpg} by just the characters, wich are purely cosmetic) but anyways have you played FFTA, FFTA2, FFXII? they all have the same races, based in the same world...so you must hate them....how about ff1-10, thy all basicly had just humans ...so you must hate them for that...sad attempt to troll.....seriously

    make a logical argument and we shall go from there.

     

    Because what you say isn't logical, as it seems you have not even played any of the FF games yourself. Most of them do have humanoid races. FF9 being the exception, and I guess you could say 7 since red13 was an animal. That is beside the point.

    Also it was fine to continue a story as in tactics or FFX and X2.

    BUT

    If you take a FF game, and you have 5 races, and 5 years or so later you make a NEW FF GAME and the ONLY THING you change is removing the Galkas TAIL and the other 4 out of 5 races look IDENTICAL to another game you made. That is lazy and incompetent garbage. I am sorry.

    They didn't even spruce them up at all, I mean they basically took the damn game files from 11 and high ressed them some and pasted them into the 14 game file folder. G A R B A G E.

    exactly all the games has "humanoids" in them, and hell ALOT of them had nothing BUT "humanoids" so you just have to hate all those games for basicly copying the first game. 

  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357
    Originally posted by neonaka


     Because what you say isn't logical

    Bin-go.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • zanfirezanfire Member UncommonPosts: 970

     anyways enjoy not playing anymore SE games (because of somthing so damn trivial) and go back to whatever game you were on.

  • neonakaneonaka Member UncommonPosts: 779
    Originally posted by zanfire

    Originally posted by neonaka

    Originally posted by zanfire

    Originally posted by neonaka


    Yeah that's what I am a troll
    For what?
    Having an opinion that differs from yours?
    gg

    but just to give a quick example (not sure why you are basing an MMO {not offline rpg} by just the characters, wich are purely cosmetic) but anyways have you played FFTA, FFTA2, FFXII? they all have the same races, based in the same world...so you must hate them....how about ff1-10, thy all basicly had just humans ...so you must hate them for that...sad attempt to troll.....seriously

    make a logical argument and we shall go from there.

     

    Because what you say isn't logical, as it seems you have not even played any of the FF games yourself. Most of them do have humanoid races. FF9 being the exception, and I guess you could say 7 since red13 was an animal. That is beside the point.

    Also it was fine to continue a story as in tactics or FFX and X2.

    BUT

    If you take a FF game, and you have 5 races, and 5 years or so later you make a NEW FF GAME and the ONLY THING you change is removing the Galkas TAIL and the other 4 out of 5 races look IDENTICAL to another game you made. That is lazy and incompetent garbage. I am sorry.

    They didn't even spruce them up at all, I mean they basically took the damn game files from 11 and high ressed them some and pasted them into the 14 game file folder. G A R B A G E.

    exactly all the games has "humanoids" in them, and hell ALOT of them had nothing BUT "humanoids" so you just have to hate all those games for basicly copying the first game. 

     

    You are just doing what I have seen many do in this post already, trying to twist and manipulate the post of others, because they do not agree with you.

    I don't care that you wanna play this game or not, and I don't care that you like recycled garbage. That is fine with me. Enjoy it.

    Just because most of the protagonist in the FF games were a humanoid race, many of the FF games has many different types of creative mobs and characters in them. Yoshitaka Amano is one of the greatest artist on planet earth.

    I do not hate the other games because they were different, Did you play Cloud in FF 1-12 as the main character? Nope.

    Did you fight Sephiroth and Shinra in FF 1-12... Nope. Each and every character from all of the games looked different and had different characteristics.

    FFXI you play a Hume, Mithra, Galka, Elvaan, and TaruTaru

    FFXIV you play a Hume, Mithra, Galka, Elvaan, and TaruTaru

    See my point now?

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