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Actually, it makes $180,000,000 a MONTH. 12 million subscribers X $15.
Those are best case, rough numbers, but you can see that it makes nearly 10 times what you suggest in a year.
EDIT: Not trying to call you out, just showing that this game has monster earnings. No offense intended.
I define a quality game as something I have fun playing. Just because it doesn't have cutting edge graphics/sound or whatever means nothing. It's about people being excited to come home after a long day at school/work because they have something fun to do. Pong was a quality game because people enjoyed it.
As far as your Eve example....that just sounds like a pain in the ass. Maybe that's just my inner casual gamer speaking, but I play games to get away from stuff like that.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2009/dec/16/games-events2
Half-Life 2 is the game of the decade, not just because it's good, but because it encapsulates so much of what mainstream gaming has been trying to do for the last ten years; the aspiration to create believable, physically accurate worlds, then to make us a part of them. The narrative and technical achievements of this game and its episodic follow-ups have been equaled, perhaps, but not significantly bettered. We may see Half-Life's usurper in the coming decade – we may witness the next quantum shift in the medium. It will be fun getting there. This is why we play videogames, after all.
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If WOW is the Macdonald of the MMORPG, Eve online is a hot dog stand compared to WOW lol
And you enjoy playing ring-around-the-rock spreadsheets-in-space, so your opinion on quality = shit.
While I think WoW is one of the lamer games out there based on any kind of critera for a game of the decade the only way WoW can lose is over the actual game.
WoW has had the biggest impact on the MMO market and computer gaming in general of any game to release this last decade. To say otherwise is to hide your head in the sand. While I agree with the sentiment that quantity does not equal quality at the same time impact does not mean something is a quality product.
Blizzard did what it always does and took a great idea from others, dumbed it down and gave it to the masses. They are masters at this and love or hate them, you must acknowledge this mastery. As a Journalist I understand naming WoW the game of the dedcade and must to my dismay even agree with it.
I do not feel it is a great game but it has done great things.
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If WOW is the Macdonald of the MMORPG, Eve online is a hot dog stand compared to WOW lol
if WOW is the RäkMonalds of the MMO then everquest is real 100% beef steak,AC is real new potatoes and UO is real fresh salad and tomatoes
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McDonalds is actually recognized for being higher quality than many of its similar competitors.
Just like wow is recognized by game developers for being a high quality game, especially when compared to many of its similar competitors.
I think that making an analogy to illustrate a point ignores the actual facts of gaming by trying to associate negatives from a completely unrelated industry as if those are the same factors in the case of wow.
Are you trying to compare wow to mcdonalds or are you really trying to compare it to fast food, because your analogy says one thing and then you argue another. The company McDonalds, like it or not, got to the top of its industry, because of its quality, its service and being an all around well run company. It is not competing with non-fast food restaurants, so why would it be in a competition with a steak house?
If you want to compare wow to fast food then just say that.
As for how accessible wow is, I will bet you that more experienced mmo players are subscribed to wow than the next several highest population games combined. The same for pvp players, casual players, hardcore players, etc etc.
In essence the argument that wow is low quality and somehow has stayed on top 5 best selling software list for 5 years straight is rather absurd. I am not saying wow is the best game of the decade, set out to redefine mmos or shatter the world with all new never been seen before gameplay, but it is pretty hard to argue that it is crap while doing what no other video game has come anywhere close to doing. Blizzard did a fantastic job at what they set out to do and the success they have achieved says they did something right.
I'm not saying wow is the game of the decade, but I understand why game developers may have picked it among all the choices they had to consider.
If you want to compare wow to fast food then just say that.
In essence the argument that wow is low quality and somehow has stayed on top 5 best selling software list for 5 years straight is rather absurd.
same goes to RäkMonalds
Generation P
Well goddamnit. I actually brought my lunch to work today... but no this arguement has me in the mood for a quarter pounder with cheese. CURSE YOU ALL!!!!
Active: WoW
Semi-retired: STO
Fully retired: UO, EQ, AC, SWG, FFXI, DDO:EU, PoTBS, AoC, EvE
Tried: EQ2, Tabula Rasa, Auto-Assault, Isteria, LotRO, Wizard 101
Looking forward to: Star Citizen
It is actually quite humorous that these threads pop up so often.
We get it...some of you hate WoW. Get over it.
Trying to compare World of Warcraft to this or that isn't helping your case a whole lot. The MMORPG industry is interesting, as others have stated, because a great number of games are equally priced and equally accessible.
Claiming that the number of players has no relevance to game quality is rather absurd. Either Blizzard has tricked millions and millions of people into paying for their game month after month, or they have actually put out a quality product. Granted, every game has problems and/or issues that every person may not like, but "appealing to the masses", as you say, isn't necessarily a bad thing. The last time I checked, A corporation's primary goal is still to turn a profit.
Please explain to me why a company would make a "Super L33T hardcore game that isn't for NOOBS" when they would get 20-100K subscribers. It just isn't logical for a game company to turn games like this when they have shareholders and employees to think about.
If you want to compare wow to fast food then just say that.
In essence the argument that wow is low quality and somehow has stayed on top 5 best selling software list for 5 years straight is rather absurd.
same goes to RäkMonalds
Yet McDonalds is ranked as one of the highest quality fast food restaurants in the world.
Comparing fast food to fine dining makes about as much sense as comparing The Legend of Zelda to poker. Video game, board game, card game who cares? They all have the word game so it must mean they are similar enough to make relevant comparisons and conclusions to each other.
nope sorry i dont hate WoW
Blizzard and its Addicts are saying that WoW is best restaurant in the universe ,when its fastfood snackshop really.
in gaming terms Blizzard etc is saying that their tuberun is MMORPG.
Generation P
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
It influenced the genre like no other title ever did; it changed the course of every MMORPG in development for years to come, it multiplied the consumer base of the whole market within months.
Has McDonalds influenced regular restaurants? - No, at least not in my country. Sure, there are thousands of McDonalds popping everywhere, but you still don't take your girl to a McDonalds for dinner.
Like it or not, WoW reshaped the whole MMO landscape, and therefore the award is well deserved...
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Honestly if you're going to do a real world comparison for WoW, it should be comparing a huge shopping mall to a strip mall. The strip mall is ok, it has its pharmacy, its 14+ pennigtons for fat women, a bank etc, its ok if you need something specific. However if you're looking for anything you could possibly want, you're going to go to the huge mall. It has any store you need from hardware tools to baby clothes, from lingerie to video games. It tries to cater to everyone, unfortunately it doesn't have the penningtons 14+ for fat women, those women will have to go to the strip mall to get their clothes.
That is EXCACTLY what McDonalds is. It is not meant to be healthy, taste very good or be unique, it is for da-masses. The analogy is perfectly valid.
That does not mean McDonalds has a problem, but it is certainly not the best restaurant of the decade. Not by anyone with any sense of taste and class. Yet it is the most popular, so yeah the comparison is so ridicilous...
Besides it's 2010, Taco bell is just about as wide spread as McDonalds at this point atleast in the US. To fix the analogy, simply compare to the rest of the fast food market out there. Which all offer things at roughly the same price as well as (depending on area) are as accessible as any other. Is mcdonalds food simply better than Sonics because they sell more? Most I would assume who have eaten at both places would beg to differ. Just as chick filet and subways meals are a tad better in quality than McDonalds. The analogy works fine IMO.
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If you dont see the analogy, and how accessible can mean different things, then clearly you are not grasping the comparison.
There is nothing in WoW that has high quality, like there is nothing in Mcdonald that is of high quality, yet both of them are very popular. So WoW is definetely the McDonalds of MMORPGs.
Nothing in WoW is high quality? They only have the smoothest combat of any MMORPG ever. I think quality is subjective. So what if it's popular? That IS because it's a good game whether you believe it or not.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
I completely disagree with you and you seem a smidge biased. I've been playing mmo's since oldschool UO and have tried tons since.
Wow isn't just a game now.. it's a cultural phenomenon. I've played it at launch for a year and just returned to fill the gap between now and the swtor release. I honestly had hard feelings against the game until I recently returned and found the new cross server group queue to be absolutely amazing.
To me, wow is considered the old reliable of mmos. The only thing they did that made the game irritating was catered to the masses and made epics and rare loots to easy to obtain.
Just because craploads of people play it, the graphics are subpar at best and the community tends to be juvenile, doesn't mean it's a bad game in any way shape or form.
If swtor doesn't meet my expectations I'll probably be staying with wow because it keeps me busy and blizz seems to know what people want & with most new mmo's sucking hardcore 2 months after launch, I know this game will be kicking for another 5-10 years.
If you dont see the analogy, and how accessible can mean different things, then clearly you are not grasping the comparison.
There is nothing in WoW that has high quality, like there is nothing in Mcdonald that is of high quality, yet both of them are very popular. So WoW is definetely the McDonalds of MMORPGs.
Just because you can't find high quality in WoW doesn't mean it's true. It just means *you* have a problem.
But, to humor you, let's start at the beginning. To start with, why don't you name some particular aspects of other MMO's which denote 'High quality' ?
Sure:
AoC - Excellent gfx quality and innovative (melee) combat system
Aion - Excellent gfx quality and good RvR PvP experience
WAR - Innovative quests called Public Quests
Eve - Excellent sandbox, PvP quality with complex economy and real 3D flight.
LOTR - Excellent PvE gameplay.
CoX/CO - Excellent customization and very varied travel powers.
WoW - Easymode PvE with PvP tacked on. Nothing innovative or high quality except the recent cross server instancing. It caters to the masses and hence its major success.
As for me having a "problem" because I dont see quality in WoW. Yeah sure, like dietists has a "problem" when they dont see the nutritional value of fast food.
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If you dont see the analogy, and how accessible can mean different things, then clearly you are not grasping the comparison.
There is nothing in WoW that has high quality, like there is nothing in Mcdonald that is of high quality, yet both of them are very popular. So WoW is definetely the McDonalds of MMORPGs.
Nothing in WoW is high quality? They only have the smoothest combat of any MMORPG ever. I think quality is subjective. So what if it's popular? That IS because it's a good game whether you believe it or not.
Theres more Roleplayers in Counter Strike than WoW ,so CS must be MMORPG too.
and believe it or not CS = smoothest combat ever.
Generation P
nope sorry i dont hate WoW
Blizzard and its Addicts are saying that WoW is best restaurant in the universe ,when its fastfood snackshop really.
in gaming terms Blizzard etc is saying that their tuberun is MMORPG.
Obviously you don't hate WoW since the majority of your forum posts bash it...
You obviously also didn't finish reading my post since I addressed your misguided analogy one last time.
If you truly feel like debating something, at least pose some interesting and/or logical arguments instead of the fast food analogy.
(I'm pretty sure that you just want to get your opinion out but don't bother changing it based upon the logical explanations/rebuttals of others)
If you dont see the analogy, and how accessible can mean different things, then clearly you are not grasping the comparison.
There is nothing in WoW that has high quality, like there is nothing in Mcdonald that is of high quality, yet both of them are very popular. So WoW is definetely the McDonalds of MMORPGs.
Nothing in WoW is high quality? They only have the smoothest combat of any MMORPG ever. I think quality is subjective. So what if it's popular? That IS because it's a good game whether you believe it or not.
Smoothest combat? You mean the traditional and archaich target and activate powers combat and then watch outcome?
Haha, EQ 1 had that 9 years ago. WoW made it more streamlined and added some new powers but has not added anything innovative or complex. WoW is basically an easy mode version of EQ 1.
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nope sorry i dont hate WoW
Blizzard and its Addicts are saying that WoW is best restaurant in the universe ,when its fastfood snackshop really.
in gaming terms Blizzard etc is saying that their tuberun is MMORPG.
Obviously you don't hate WoW since the majority of your forum posts bash it...
You obviously also didn't finish reading my post since I addressed your misguided analogy one last time.
If you truly feel like debating something, at least pose some interesting and/or logical arguments instead of the fast food analogy.
(I'm pretty sure that you just want to get your opinion out but don't bother changing it based upon the logical explanations/rebuttals of others)
sorry again,I do have 7*70 PvP characters still there and some lower ones,but still ,itsnot MMORPG.
Generation P
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