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Let's leave the personal attack out of the conversation and focus on the topic..
Please..
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
I guess I missed that due to the mod edit -- not a surprise though, fanboys have been making personal attacks against me for a long time, because they simply can't debate the state of the game.
Yay so you reported my post and it got edited.
As far as I remember the only personal attack towards Hercules was calling it lame to base his critique on youtube vids since he has been banned for 3 months already.
I dont know what are the policies of MMORPG.COM but any self repsecting gaming website would have banned a guy like Hercules as soon as he confessed himself as a leaker and even posted links to his blog....but oh well...
The funny thing though is that the people that got refunds and are not playing the game since some time are the ones bashing it most while ppl who DO play the game post the following:
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/30223-we-might-actually-have-our-new-uo-mo.html
Curious, huh?
Or maybe we all are playing different games
Oh and Slpshot i confess I love your unbiased, eduated and friendly comments on youtube :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6LZZHQQtzs
Wow... cancelling this game was the best move I've made in awhile. 3 weeks from release? and this is what the game is? Love that wonderfully fleshed out environment... and naked guys with axes.. wow... $75 much better off my my pocket that supporting this junk.
heh
Sure, they have the desire to make it into UO2. They just don't have the design or the management on how to do it.
Ever since the game opened in beta, it's been going in one direction -- down. Patch after patch introduced features that should have been there since the beginning. Systems like housing, guild systems, thievery -- were actively developed and 'plopped' into the build. That's why it isn't a beta -- it's an alpha.
But forget the bugs -- what great feature have you gotten from the inception of beta until now? I mean, they added housing (not very good, static houses, no interaction). They added theivery (totally bugged and broken). They added crafting skills (bugged again). There aren't any elements of "sandbox". You can't go up to anything in the world and change it -- it's locked in place, a static world with limited abilities to make changes to it. You can plop down a house, but it basically has no meaning. You can craft tons of items but the only ones that matter are the two handed swords. And you can PvP in a system that is a terrible ripoff of Age of Chivalry, and more akin to a Counterstrike knife fight. Let's not even talk about magic, as it's not worth it.
Basically, you have folks like yourself who scream the key word of "sandbox", with little to no interpretation on what you think that is. I've explained many times what sandboxes are and do, and they give you the ability to shape the world. In MO, you CAN'T shape the world, because there are no mechanics to do so. All you can do is do some horrible PvP with a few overpowered weapons that everybody uses because there's no balance.
Honestly, I *want* to make UO2. I'm sure SV "wants" to make UO2 as well. But unfortunately for SV, they lack the design, management, experience, and knowledge to deliver such a project in any shape that is even remotely close to what UO offered. Their main talents are in their artists and level builders, and it's not awe inspiring talent either -- but that's their biggest talent. At least if I set out to make a game, I have experience of multiple shipped products under my belt, with the ability to know how to manage a complete life cycle of a project. But I don't have my dad to fund me to start a company, and so I continue to work doing what I do for financial firms. I will leave it to the inexperienced folks with rich dads to ruin perfectly good ideas, and if I ever can launch such a project, I will make sure my design is complementary to the skillset I can acquire, hire, and manage.
MO is basically a really big Unreal mod, and when it "launches", you'll see that I'm right.
So it's not just us.. it's MMORPG that's wrong as well? Just accept the fact that other people can have differing opinions and are entitled to express those opinions in a mature manner. Just leave the personal attacks out of it as they aren;t needed and undercut any argument.
As far as quoting... I'm not sure you want to open that door again my friend as there are plenty of instances where you pretty much say the same thing I do on the official forums. Instead of retalliating against you though I will take the high road and let's get this thread back on topic.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
The funny thing is for every one fanboy posts, I can find 10 complaints about the game on the same forums, basically saying it's already a failure.
You're a big fan of the game. I think it's total garbage. Those are the benefits of opinions, and you're entitled to them.
That said, who will be more accurate in their opinion come launch time? Obviously I have my own view, and if you think that launch is going to go anything near to what the "disaster" Darkfall was (and it was pretty bad) -- it will make Darkfall's launch look like WOW right now. But time will tell who's right, eh?
So it's not just us.. it's MMORPG that's wrong as well? Just accept the fact that other people can have differing opinions and are entitled to express those opinions in a mature manner. Just leave the personal attacks out of it as they aren;t needed and undercut any argument.
As far as quoting... I'm not sure you want to open that door again my friend as there are plenty of instances where you pretty much say the same thing I do on the official forums. Instead of retalliating against you though I will take the high road and let's get this thread back on topic.
Err dude I am not your friend nor wish to be it.
You can quote whatever you want. I have nothing to hide. Thats why I post with the same name here as in the official forum...cough...cough...I am not a fanboy and many times I have spoken against MO. Anyone who wishes can visit the official forums and check my profile.
You can leave this poor RP attempt to post as a good, educated boy who actually have nothing against SV but wants to help other gamers. I quoted just one random part that shows who you really are.
I could also quote the part where you were saying that if SV doesnt give you back your money you would start a campaign against them and ruin their game or somethign along the lines. But I will take the high road instead and reply to Hercules....
You can call the intial state of MO alpha, beta, omega....even apple pie. I dont really care nor the average Joe does.
The thing is that since that point MO has been steadily improving.
No one says the game is 100% ready and I really dont get why you keep speaking as if when they release they will stop working on the game.
Eversince the preorders went live it was announced what few core features will be in the game.
If I was to judge MO I would say its 35-40% complete. A lot of stuff missing or not working properly. However I still have fun playing it. And the devs have been working hard to take out bugs and get in new stuff. ANd this is the important thing.
If the game was in its current state and devs were trying to make us believe its was ready and cool and so on then yes I would be the first one to post against them But as I said devs have been pretty oppen from the start that the game will not release with all the fluff and features and polishing.
The words they used were "rough ride" And thats what it is.
The more activity this forum gets... the more attention it attracts.
Like I said earlier... the video portrayed in the first post is worth a few laughs... but it was probably worth a couple thousand views... how many of those were people who had never seen the game? How many were people who delved a bit deeper and got interested? The people that get turned off are not the ones that matter... you never had them anyway... it's the few that register on the forums and get interested that you want to watch out for and help.
I think after a few visits and posts at MMORPG.com, new people get a feel for what the communities are like and begin to learn how to navigate and interpret the posts. They... understand the way it works...
Ultimately this game wouldn't have as many interested people if it wasn't for individuals like HerculesSAS and Slapshot1188. Sure, we have to come in post with them every once in a while... write a few objections and post a few more links... but it's ultimately only going to help the game.
Look at their activity... they follow the game more closely, and do more posting about the game than most of the fans.
Which I personally thank them for.
So... just be careful when you post. You can't really do any damage to the people that generate negative posts, but you can use them to generate a fair amount of interest if you do it right.
This thread has gone way off topic.
Thread locked.