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ic0n67
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Just curious. I need a new one eventually and this one SEEMS like it would be a good one to get. It looks like if i got a video card it would be cheaper than trying to build a similar one from scratch from Dell. ... I think i tried to hit something similar and I was at like 1100 and still no speakers.
EDIT: I lied ... i found the exact computer on dell and it is $50 less, but doesn't come with speakers and 2 GB less ram, 320GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache instead of the one on the besy buy one and a run of the mill 16x CD/DVD drive.
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You might want to find out if it has any free PCIEx16 2.0 slots free or if it even has any PCI-Ex16 slots free. Being that cheap, I really doubt it. You're going to need at least PCI-Ex16 for any decent video card.
Other than that, that's actually not a bad deal once you add in the OS.
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for 1200$ you could build a computer that puts alienware to shame. If you computer savy i would say build your own because you will be able to get the most bang for your buck but for the price of 600 dollars its not a bad computer. Still you probably will need a graphics card thats around 150$+ to be able to run xiv on low specs. (but since specs havent been listed yet it is a unknown)
ps. I just finished building my computer and i have no speakers included lucky i kept mine from my last build, and i have no monitor but ill use my HDTV for a monitor if all goes to plan.
I donno it seems costly for what it has. Switching out the G-Card would be a good idea but remember dell loves to hide the little details about their computers, if you want a new g-card you will likly need to get a new PS as well. Dell always undercuts power supply requirements in their computers. I'd also look a little more on the best buy site, from a brief looking I think i found the same computer except cheaper and packaged with a monitor. (didnt look too closely at the details)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dell+I545S-3055N+Desktop+with+Intel®+Core™2+Duo+Processor+&+18.5"+LCD+Monitor/9999124200050000.p?id=pcmprd124200050000&skuId=9999124200050000&childSku=9532455&count=1
"the slots will be PCIe x16(1), PCIe x 1(1), PCI(2)" from customer service
The hard drive is only 5400k rpm, as soon as you buy that computer buy a HDD at least at 7200rpm. If you do buy that computer check to see if all the RAM is the same speed and if it matches the FSB of the CPU. Otherwise you will bottleneck at the HDD first and then the RAM.
If you live in Colorado, i can build you a computer in front of you, just have to provide the parts.
I am running on 5 hours of sleep i hope all that made sense, if it does not i can clarify.
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Yeah I noticed that the HDD was a lot slower. The model direct from dell has a 7200 RPM drive, but it is half the storage space. It is also a consideration to talk myself out of it.
Would a company like Dell put different speeds of ram than the board dictates?
I have built my machines in the past (honestly my first one that I didn't know what I was doing was probably the best). I just am not that much of a computer snob and I don't want the hassle of building a machine ... just kinda looking for something that is already together that will fill my need of game music and pr0n.
The best advice someone gave me was dont buy computers start building your own, you get alot more bang for your buck. Ill pass that advice onto you, wheater you take it or not is up to you. Remember none of us were born with the knowlage on how to build it.
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OP.buy a ps3 !no use buying a computer when we all know games WONT be ever released in 64 bit.
since hell gate london was in 64 bit (online)and it didnt fly very high gaming company are scared of anything
straying away from wow way.
so you ll get 64 bit when blizzard make a 64 bit game ,then everybody will copy blizzard ..etc etc etc.
so buy a ps3 an save lot of work and you even get blue ray on those.can plug on your tv screen.
If you feel comfortable removing TONS of useless software then get it from a vendor
Otherwise build your own to get what you want and save some $$$. Dell is, in my mind, second worst at adding on crap software that you don't need. HP is easily first 
I remember when I got my HP laptop..... what a nightmare it was lol. Ended up just reinstalling the OS completely.
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I'd stay away from building your own computer unless you know what you're doing because they can be a headache if things aren't easy to install. You don't just have to worry about the parts of the computer but also operating system and if you buy it, you get a warranty if a part breaks. If you build your own, you have to buy another. Just stay away from Fry's if you can help it. I built mine there and had parts break shortly after and have bought a computer there and the hard drive failed 3 days after i bought it. Good luck on getting a new comp and enjoy all the new games u can play
I don't believe you know what you are talking about. Individual part warranties are longer than prebuilt system. For instance Dell offers a 1 year warranty on a prebuilt PC(which is probably included in the final price) and will charge for anything longer. From what I've seen from buying parts and building PC is that 3 yrs is lowest and lifetime is highest of warranty terms. My gpu's and mothersboards have a lifetime warranty. The only headache when building your PC if you get a DOA part and your PC won't post then you have to determine which part it is. It can be hassle dealing with some companies with warranties some try to avoid you, some are slow, and others are top notch. I only buy from companies that have great customer service like EVGA and Corsair. As for an OS if you buy a Dell the price of the OS is reflected in the final price and also the CD you get is Bios locked meaning it will only work for that PC or Manufacturer motherboard or Bios. I started building PC's a few years ago ever since I got screwed over by Dell and I haven't looked back. I had some prior experience in high school with repairing PC's but nothing pass that. Its not hard as long as you can read and follow instructions. Like I said the only hassle is when you get a DOA part or when one dies on you later. In the end its your money, if you want to save some money and a since of accomplishment build your own. If you are lazy or don't have the time then just buy a prebuilt one but with some of those you are paying for more than you are getting.
To answer your question Icon it looks like a decent PC minus no video card. From the look for the case I don't think modern GPU's(video cards) will fit but I could be wrong since there are no pics inside or no dimensions given. Bus speed is kinda low for my taste and it doesn't give the speed of the ram.
Yeah if you plan on buying a pre-built PC, better find out the interior dimensions. Some of these new graphics cards are incredible huge, talking 10.5in in length and up too 2in in width which will cover other PCI slots...etc Also make sure the Power Supply is also powerful enough to run these new cards, they are requiring 2; 6-pin slots for power now, and 800+ watts to run stable, and they're hot so you need good cooling too.
Usually pre-built PCs especially for the low priced model you posted are going to have very low end parts that are just enough to run that junk. Yes junk as most pre-builts are....I highly suggest you build one from scratch and buy your parts from NewEgg.com....best site there is for parts. Also go with EVGA for a video Card...they rock and have the best warranties but frankly I've never had one of their cards not work; even for yrs on end running 24/7. And personally I always use ASUS motherboards, and stick to AMD CPUs!
If you don't know how to built a PC from scratch, just look around and read some tuts, its really quite simple and is even easier putting them together now that most the parts are color-coded...hehe was such a pain 10+ yrs ago when everything was grey and looked the same...rofl Heck you could even find a local PC store near you that would assemble the PC for ya for like $50 if you bring them all the parts.
lol its all plug and play!only problem you might encounter is if you havent learned to read yet!but then we all know that would be too youg to build a computer anyway!
its child play by a good board etc and everything is shown .big company like hp have one problem
nothing is standard cant play in bios its locked ,ton of trial to remove ton of junk from hp you ll never use
its way simpler to build your own.like i say today its all plug and play and if you arent in a hurry
just keep an eye on site like neweeg.com
and when your favorite is on special ,jump on it!
I got Alienware for my wife and I last month and it's gigantic. I would have built my own, but I didn't have the time and all that. It is definitely the cheaper, more effective route. Everyone else pretty much said all there is to say about that. If you look at the box stores like Best Buy and such, you'll see a huge difference in price. It's kinda' crazy. Heck, you could probably go to Wal-Mart, Sam's, or whatever. You could get something just as good as those with more stuff cheaper if you really want a pre-built.
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If you're building a computer JUST for Final Fantasy XIV, I would strongly suggest you buy a PS3 instead.
The issue regarding buying prebuilt computers, besides the warranty, is the fact that you cannot overclock.
I built my first computer (with the help of my father's friend) when I was around 9 (back when a 100mhz computer was in the thousands) and honestly since then, they've dumbed down things so much it isn't that daunting of a task.
There is a bit of a myth regarding people blowing up their computers by OCing, but honestly, if leave your voltage at stock and just keep increasing until you start crashing, then go down by 50 mhz, you're fine. Lemme give examples
Q6600, 2.66 ghz default. Stock voltage hit 3.4ghz. Go look at the price of a 3.4ghz Intel CPU and get ready to cry.
I7 920, 2.66 ghz default (??? I don't know what the stock speed is, I OCed it right after I installed the OS), currently @ 3.8 ghz @ stock voltage. However, it's at 4.1ghz because I upped the voltage (which does shorten CPU life but I upgrade every year).
Other thing is, I like knowing exactly what comes with what I buy and I know for a fact that all prebuild desktops and laptops have bloatware on them that slows down the system. I also know that almost all bios functions are locked (I tried fixing a friend's computer once then doing some bios changes, almost every option I wanted to touch was locked).
ie. Just get a PS3 if you think you're incapable of building a computer (which is as easy as building something with Lego by the way). Otherwise, avoid pre-build systems due to the limited options you have.
EDIT: Also, when you build your own computer, operating systems can be excluded from the price *COUGH* (figure this out yourself).
EDIT EDIT: And the reason why I suggested the PS3 is because it's the cheapest bang for the buck game system you can get. In order to play at the PS3's level you need to invest at least $500 (though even that's pushing it, and then you wouldn't have access to resolutions above 1650x1080...hell, I think 1650x1080 would be pushing it). So honestly, if you were to just get the cheapest model of PS3 + a keyboard and 250GB HD, you're paying 299+150 MAX (unless you want a damn expensive keyboard).
yep and it will have blue ray ,high definition.one of the best processor on the market cell processor
graphic card are a bit on the low side but hell its not computer.
or you can take a service like ONLIVE
you get this cable box sized box and it stream the game to your display.(good only if you have unlimited
deal with your provider!)
some say its the futur!lol!ya right till internet provider do cheap unlimited deal onlive or any of that kind of deal
like that is undoable for most market .enhce the reason why ,most gamer think
the best solution is probably microsoft donnybrook!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ain't that the truth.
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ubuntu is a nice tidy operating system!
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Forgot to mention the computer you were looking at will not fit any of the new GFX cards. But like i have said before if you do end up building it either I or anyone else on this forum would be able to help you, from choosing parts to assembly. It really not that hard more like Knex or Legos.
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Build it yourself!
There is really no excuse for not doing it yourself anymore. There are tons of computer sites with tons of people more than willing to help you pick out parts. Then you have youtube videos to help you put the thing together. It really isn't that hard and the parts aren't near as fragile as you'd think.
thanks y'all.
Just to say I have built PCs in the past I know how to do it. I was looking at a premade one because I don't really want the hassle of getting the pieces or having something just not fit quite right. Plus bestbuy offering 18 months at 0% means I don't have to pay for it entirely at once.
Have you considered IBuyPower? http://www.ibuypower.com/ . It let's you choose the exact parts you want and they build it for you. It's more expensive than building it yourself but less expensive than an OEM gaming computer. They are able to do it cheaper because you have to RMA the parts yourself if something breaks after the first 30 days. They have phone support though so you have one place to call and help you figure out what's wrong if something breaks.
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mm!chose processor go on processor maker site use recommended motherboard for processor !i mean
you dont even need to choose a lot anymore lol and since we know most major motherboard maker support most processor its simple
you want even simpler!buy everything from intel!i mean literally everything!the only piece you would miss is graphic card!
thats a no brainer since ati for now is the only dx11 card maker!and intel parts all fits on intel parts lol
so you cant go wrong and you ll save a ton by building you self!