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Warjin
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So I started to read up on the EvE lore and from what I understand the setting takes place 20,000 years in the future in a different Galaxy, the people of EvE discovered thousands of solar systems in both the New Edan and the Milky Way Galaxy(pre worm hole) and they have yet to discover another Accended race? Really the odds of not discovering another race that didn't come from earth is unlikly at this point and flat out disappointing IMO.
I really wish they would introduce a Accended race with non human orgins It would seem to make sence at this point, I could understand not meeting another race if Humans only discovered like 100 or so solar system in the Milky Way but tens of thousands on two Galaxies is unlikly lol.
Your Thoughts?
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My thoughts? Awesome. Awesome that they didn't fall for the scifi cliche that every scifi game has to include aliens. Instead, they made a game about humans.
One has to applaud them for creating a world like that. Even alien-ish elements in eve like the sleepers can be explained by ancient human engineering.
Yes EvE did a great job so far but, we are not alone we are not unique as most want to think, some other life in the mix would make more sence from a scientific point of view, dosen't have to be carbon based or even humanoid It could be silcone base or even pure energy anything and not many just one would do, after all the humans of Eve have over 20k years of interseller and cross Galaxy exploration under there belt.
For 'known' universe, there is estimated to be at least 10^22 stars. As much to explored systems of New Eden...
Albert Einstein once said(something like this):
The conditions needed to create a life on Earth is as if you want to print a german dictionary by explosion of printing-works.
For 'known' universe, there is estimated to be at least 10^22 stars. As much to explored systems of New Eden...
Albert Einstein once said(something like this):
The conditions needed to create a life on Earth is as if you want to print a german dictionary by explosion of printing-works.
It was inconceivable to imagine life being anything but Bioloigical in Einsteins time and I agree the Bio/carbon based life is fragle but from what we know today ,life dosent have to be Bio/carbon based so because of that the Universe or (Verse as I like to call It because of M theory) shows that theres infinite life in some form or another some even beyond our own visual spectrum , so not bumping into life is very unlikly of you live in a society that has over 20k years of multi Galaxy explroation
Maybe the ancient races sort of address what you are saying. The Sleepers are an example and the wiki page (wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Sleepers) links to the three others (though there doesn't seem to be much content about them). Ultimately, these are all supposed to be offshoots of humans so might not be exactly what you are looking for.
I'm sorta glad they did it that way. As batolemaeus said, they didn't go for the cliche sci-fi scenario. So it's nice that intelligent life is a bit limited. That said, I believe various chronicles elude to pets and such so I think that there has been life, just not other life that can fly internet spaceships.
-mklinic
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Do something wrong, no one forgets"
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I have an idea!
Let's make an evil space jellyfish race! With lasers, of course!
They would have to be sharks...with freaking laser beams attached to their heads.
-mklinic
"Do something right, no one remembers.
Do something wrong, no one forgets"
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They would have to be sharks...with freaking laser beams attached to their heads.
No no no, the sharks would open their mouths to reveal GATLING GUNS that shoot MINI-NUCLEAR BULLETS. That'd be the most freakin' epic thing ever. The Cosmo-Sharks could fight the Jellyfish in some distant space pocket just so there'd be some more variety in New Eden. It's perfectly logical.
Because the universe is infinite, their are an infinite amount of galaxies, resulting in an infinite amount of planets. And because there are an infinite amount of planets, there are an infinite amount of planets that contain life.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."
Albert Einstein, folks.
Just because something is possible doesn't make it probable, even when taken to infinity.
Its possible that somewhere there is a teapot circling the sun, but even taken to infinity the odds of that actually being true anywhere in the universe is effectively zero.
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We don't really know for sure the universe is infinite.
My favorite analogy is that humans trying to speculate about the universe is somewhat akin to a flea trying to speculate on the dog it's on.
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20k years against 13*10^9 years of universe existance.
It is irrelevant on what the life form is based on. As I pointed out, to create life is extreme coincidence. And that is only talking about basic life form.
The odds you bump into equaly developed life form to your own is astronomical, even if you would explore billions of solar systems.
The best thing? He probably never said that, ever.
Well you're wrong. We know pretty well that the universe is finite. Which makes your statement and the one you quote pretty funny.
Finite in area most likley, (in)finite in other aspects..?
Well, no one is really sure what rock the Minmatar crawled out from under...... : )
Considering that even earth, which is arguably a very uncommon and friendly planet for life(i.e. we have a moon and gasgiants that filter asteroids, aswell as pretty stable temperature conditions), only contained a intelligent species for about 50k years of its 2 billion timeframe where life existed should show you uncommon intelligent life might be even on planets supporting lifeforms.
Now take into account that even with 5k systems, finding a single planet like earth would be extremely uncommon(solar systems with a binary star and as many planets as ours are very rare, not to mention planets hospitable for life), and you arrive at the conclusion that startrek/starwars/babylon 5 is full of shit.
Yes there probably is intelligent life besides our own somewhere in the universe, no we are not likely to ever encounter them. If there ever comes the day where we have superreceivers/sensors that manage to catch a message from a intelligent civilization in another galaxy, it will come with the sad realization that this message was sent millions of years ago and that the race resposible probably perished just as long ago, which would make it kinda pointless sending anything but a fleet of archaeologists to them even if we had FTL travel.
Personally i like the way there is no alien race in Eve. With it being all about Humankind it makes it for a very interesting and belivable world.
Saying that tho if they had to ahve an alien race in it i would definatly consider the idea of a Shadow like race [see babylon 5]. asically a NPC race that you rarely saw and manipulated all the races from behind the scenes.
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
GHSC Shadows?
F2P/P2P excellent thread.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/282517/F2P-An-Engineers-perspective.html
Blasto......
Enkindle this!
Seriously though...
We have no idea how rare the conditions for the formation of life are. It is possible that our planet represents essentially a singular event in the universe. I personally believe this is unlikely, but that is pure speculation.
We simply do not know.
We know so little It's not even funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw8dcb8iKSM
Ah, but you CAN see these manipulative shadow beings, called "devs" at any FanFest pub crawl.
www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp
There is an alien species, and they are smarter than the average human.
Into the breach meatbags
Albert Einstein, folks.
The best thing? He probably never said that, ever.
Well you're wrong. We know pretty well that the universe is finite. Which makes your statement and the one you quote pretty funny.
I was really just saying some science mumbo jumbo. But the universe isn't infinite. It is growing. Something that is increasing can't be infinite. And at some point the universe is expected to shrink again. Which would still mean no infinite