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Official Re-rating?

SilacoidSilacoid Member UncommonPosts: 237

 With the influx of new players over the past few months (including me), I think it would be to the benefit of the users of MMORPG.com to re-rate the game from its 6.0 rating.

That rating turned me off from the game originally, but I watched the user rating creep up from 7.0 to 7.2, now it is at 7.5 which obviously is showing that most people are finding this game to be remarkably different from launch.

I would ask MMORPG.com to maybe take a second look at the site's official rating, but I don't know if there is some policy against this.

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  • Rockgod99Rockgod99 Member Posts: 4,640

    Agreed.

    6.0 is too low for DF.

    Yes Df was a 6 at launch but now its closer to a 8 if anything.

    Most people on this site rate it bad because its a ffa full loot game and they hate being ganked.

     

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  • WeaponXWeaponX Member Posts: 241

    I to would not mind seeing this re-rated, I played in beta and hated it but could

    see were with the right changes this could be a good game. From what I have

    been reading I might buy it soon and give it another shot, so would be nice to see

    a re-rate to help me make up my mind hehe

    Assassin's like to do it in the dark and from behind.

  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001
    Originally posted by Rockgod99


    Agreed.
    6.0 is too low for DF.
    Yes Df was a 6 at launch but now its closer to a 8 if anything.
    Most people on this site rate it bad because its a ffa full loot game and they hate being ganked.
     
    "Those guys stole my horse!!!!!!!!" 
    User goes onto mmorpg.com and gives DF a 1 rating.



    i think 6 is just about right

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  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977
    Originally posted by Silacoid


     With the influx of new players over the past few months (including me), I think it would be to the benefit of the users of MMORPG.com to re-rate the game from its 6.0 rating.
    That rating turned me off from the game originally, but I watched the user rating creep up from 7.0 to 7.2, now it is at 7.5 which obviously is showing that most people are finding this game to be remarkably different from launch.
    I would ask MMORPG.com to maybe take a second look at the site's official rating, but I don't know if there is some policy against this.



     

    Darkfall has a 7.5 user rating now? Something must be wrong! It seems the fanbois (like me) out weigh the haters (like I used to be before playing it) now.  Although I generally ignore the user rating, I think that it would be nice for MMORPG.com to give DFO a one year re review. Maybe another interview with AV too?

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • IzureIzure Member Posts: 518

    Taking how long the review was ago, and all the stuff  happened, I think 6.0 is way to low, it deserves a 7.0 AT LEASt, i am thinking at least 8.0.

     

    Anyone who argues the re review, is either a troll/hater or has not played the game or has not played the game since the 1st month of release.

  • Paragus1Paragus1 Member UncommonPosts: 1,741

    I would also like to see this site give the game a rereview.  I won't argue the old score, but the game is approaching its one year anniversary and has been through a ton of changes since launch.   When I look over the state of the genre right now,  I really can't find any game out right now, or coming in the foreseeable future that is interesting enough to lure my clan away.  In its current state it does not really deserve to have one of the lowest scores given on this site in my opinion.   If not now, then maybe after the next expansion another look should be in order.

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483

    Yeah I agree, I changed mine a couple of weeks ago.

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  • ProfRedProfRed Member UncommonPosts: 3,495

    If anything I would say re-rate it when DF 2010 comes out since they largely seem to be aiming to overhaul many parts of the game.  Maybe DF 2010 actually = the pay to play beta ends.

    Still very impressive for an indy dev studio.

  • WeaponXWeaponX Member Posts: 241
    Originally posted by Paragus1


    I would also like to see this site give the game a rereview.  I won't argue the old score, but the game is approaching its one year anniversary and has been through a ton of changes since launch.   When I look over the state of the genre right now,  I really can't find any game out right now, or coming in the foreseeable future that is interesting enough to lure my clan away.  In its current state it does not really deserve to have one of the lowest scores given on this site in my opinion.   If not now, then maybe after the next expansion another look should be in order.



     

    When is the next X-pak due?

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  • rindonrindon Member Posts: 78

    Havent they already done a re-review of it?

     

         I will say this game has gone leaps and bounds since i played at release when there was only a EU server but it is still lacking. No cap on how many skills you can max out makes the game kind of meh to me. also, new players coming in are at a severe disadvantage (as they should be) to the players that pretty much got to cheat at release with the ridiculous macros to level up every single skill they had and also the exploits they could use to raise everything up as well. but ive heard its a very daunting task to raise your skills/stats up at the moment (without the exploits and massive amounts of macro use). also when i played the game was rampant with hackers, not sure if that is still the case but i assume they werent able to do much about it.

    from what i have seen from new videos being made its just an aoe spell spam fest during fights. watched a siege of some guild hall and that is all EVERYONE was doing. blue/red/whatever color balls flying all over the place. no real skill used.

     But, to each their own. Im not a fan of the game, some people are. cudo's to you for finding a game you like :-)

  • Paragus1Paragus1 Member UncommonPosts: 1,741
    Originally posted by WeaponX


    When is the next X-pak due?

     

    Not sure exactly.   Tasos said in a greek interview that they are aiming to do 3 major expansions per year, which would mean one every 4 months or so.  It's only been about 2 months since the last one, so it could possibly be another 2 months.   I' am just guessing here though honestly, I don't have any inside info on a timetable.

  • bluebawlesbluebawles Member Posts: 117

    Agreed re-review it after the Xpak. Should be around 8 by then  

  • littlemonkeylittlemonkey Member UncommonPosts: 61

    Would you still be happy with a "re-rate" if it came in UNDER 6.0?

    What if the "re-rate" was a 6.3? Would that be all right?

    My point is, you don't agree with the score. You think it's too low.

    The mechanism on this site for expressing different scoring is User Reviews.

    And, by your own admission, Darkfall seems to be benefiting from this. I really don't see the problem.

    "Re-rating" after an expansion or a series of MAJOR patches is understandable, beyond that....pandering.

    littlemonkey

  • therain93therain93 Member UncommonPosts: 2,039
    Originally posted by littlemonkey


    Would you still be happy with a "re-rate" if it came in UNDER 6.0?

    What if the "re-rate" was a 6.3? Would that be all right?
    My point is, you don't agree with the score. You think it's too low.

    The mechanism on this site for expressing different scoring is User Reviews.

    And, by your own admission, Darkfall seems to be benefiting from this. I really don't see the problem.
    "Re-rating" after an expansion or a series of MAJOR patches is understandable, beyond that....pandering.
    littlemonkey



     

    Agreed on this.  Furthermore, if you're re-review this game after x amount of time, then it probably should be done for all games.  Taking that further, then as each game gets re-reviewed, then a history of its score as it evolves should be included.  Of course, if the same person isn't doing the new review, the rating will be inherently flawed....etc...

  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977
    Originally posted by littlemonkey


    Would you still be happy with a "re-rate" if it came in UNDER 6.0?

    What if the "re-rate" was a 6.3? Would that be all right?
    My point is, you don't agree with the score. You think it's too low.

    The mechanism on this site for expressing different scoring is User Reviews.

    And, by your own admission, Darkfall seems to be benefiting from this. I really don't see the problem.
    "Re-rating" after an expansion or a series of MAJOR patches is understandable, beyond that....pandering.
    littlemonkey



     

    There have been two expansions and another server for North America, many changes have been made and after one year alot of players feel it warrants a re-review. Most feel (myself included) that DFO can only improve on the 6.0 it got at launch (which I think was fair).

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • sodade21sodade21 Member UncommonPosts: 349

    i did played Darkfall for around 4-5 months from launch and i can tell that after 2 months the game was worthing more than 7 at the least. i did gave up cause i wasnt too much of hardcore player and didnt had too much time to play anyway and the worst for me was the chat system/ui in general..it was rly hard to communicate with others.. plus i must admit im a 3rd person carebear and expected to have that at some point.. i did renew my sub for 1 month (a few days before the second huge expansion) and i saw hundrends of nice small and big upgrades...the system was rly stable almost all the memory leaks were gone..but still the chat change (or the 3rd person view :P ) wasnt there plus i still have no much time to dedicate and all my old friends (almost) from oromea have been tranfered to NA... Anyway... i would give Darkfall now a nice 8 and if it had a nicer ui and some nice additions for players that cant stand rpg with first person i could give 9+ ! so the point is that when someone see a rating of 6 right away skip the game and looking for the next one.. 6 was good at launch and for a couple of months after..

  • therain93therain93 Member UncommonPosts: 2,039

    On the topic of ratings, and I'm not trolling, I swear, but how is it there are only 2 official reviews of Darkfall on metacritic.com?   Rather than focusing on mmorpg.com, the darkfall loyalists' (i hate "fanboi") might better be served appealing to more mainstream publications to review the game....

    metacritic mainstream publications:  http://www.metacritic.com/about/scoring.shtml#publication

  • SilacoidSilacoid Member UncommonPosts: 237
    Originally posted by littlemonkey


    Would you still be happy with a "re-rate" if it came in UNDER 6.0?

    What if the "re-rate" was a 6.3? Would that be all right?
    My point is, you don't agree with the score. You think it's too low.

    The mechanism on this site for expressing different scoring is User Reviews.

    And, by your own admission, Darkfall seems to be benefiting from this. I really don't see the problem.
    "Re-rating" after an expansion or a series of MAJOR patches is understandable, beyond that....pandering.
    littlemonkey

     

    I would totally be okay if it was re-rated and got a low score.  If it got a 6.3 as a re-rate I would no longer rely on those numbers anymore as my opinion is out of line with the site's, but comparing my opinion on other games it seems to line up.

  • therain93therain93 Member UncommonPosts: 2,039
    Originally posted by Agricola1

    Originally posted by littlemonkey


    Would you still be happy with a "re-rate" if it came in UNDER 6.0?

    What if the "re-rate" was a 6.3? Would that be all right?
    My point is, you don't agree with the score. You think it's too low.

    The mechanism on this site for expressing different scoring is User Reviews.

    And, by your own admission, Darkfall seems to be benefiting from this. I really don't see the problem.
    "Re-rating" after an expansion or a series of MAJOR patches is understandable, beyond that....pandering.
    littlemonkey



     

    There have been two expansions and another server for North America, many changes have been made and after one year alot of players feel it warrants a re-review. Most feel (myself included) that DFO can only improve on the 6.0 it got at launch (which I think was fair).



     

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  • jonezi92jonezi92 Member Posts: 224

    i agree, there should be a re-rate,

    i mean, if STO (its not even an mmo) can get and 8, i think Darkfall can top that

  • therain93therain93 Member UncommonPosts: 2,039
    Originally posted by jonezi92


    i agree, there should be a re-rate,
    i mean, if STO (its not even an mmo) can get and 8, i think Darkfall can top that



     

    Factors contributing to that inconsistency are both the IP and the size of the publisher.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    Absolutely and becuase te main text of the review sounds like a much better rating but because of the trolling going on about Darkfall the reviewer obviously didn't had the balls to rate it accordingly and wrote a summary that isn't justified reading the main text to just have an excuse for that rating. Also the change of the designation coming with the given rating was absolutely ridicoulous and unseen off in any media before (they changed the designation given to rating 6.0 to sound more negative only and alone for Darkfall - the orginal word related to 6.0 was 'acceptable' and they turned it into 'mediocre'  to please the haters - ridiculous stuff). 

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  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977
    Originally posted by therain93

    Originally posted by jonezi92


    i agree, there should be a re-rate,
    i mean, if STO (its not even an mmo) can get and 8, i think Darkfall can top that



     

    Factors contributing to that inconsistency are both the IP and the size of the publisher.



     

    Also the reviewer is a trekkie making a best case scenario for a review. As for reviewing DFO you'd need a hardcore gamer into PvP and full loot, not sure who would fit that bill at MMORPG.com ... if at all.

    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"

    CS Lewis

  • jonezi92jonezi92 Member Posts: 224
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden


    Absolutely and becuase te main text of the review sounds like a much better rating but because of the trolling going on about Darkfall the reviewer obviously didn't had the balls to rate it accordingly and wrote a summary that isn't justified reading the main text to just have an excuse for that rating. Also the change of the designation coming with the given rating was absolutely ridicoulous and unseen off in any media before (they changed the designation given to rating 6.0 to sound more negative only and alone for Darkfall - ridiculous stuff). 



     

    2010 will be a glorious year for Darkfall

  • jonezi92jonezi92 Member Posts: 224
    Originally posted by Agricola1

    Originally posted by therain93

    Originally posted by jonezi92


    i agree, there should be a re-rate,
    i mean, if STO (its not even an mmo) can get and 8, i think Darkfall can top that



     

    Factors contributing to that inconsistency are both the IP and the size of the publisher.



     

    Also the reviewer is a trekkie making a best case scenario for a review. As for reviewing DFO you'd need a hardcore gamer into PvP and full loot, not sure who would fit that bill at MMORPG.com ... if at all.



     

    Maybe you should enlist for that job Agricola haha, You'd have my vote

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