Core mechanics changes are not supposed to be taking place this close to supposed release in an OPEN BETA. This is essentially a server load test phase of a games life. Changing core mechanics are supposed to take place in early closed beta, or late alpha but what do I know I've only beta'd dozens of games.
I realize you guys want this game to succeed and I do too, but there comes a time as a fan when we have to take off the rose colored glasses and accept things as they are, not how we hope they'll be. There's nothing wrong with hoping the game turns out ok, but to deny that there are serious concerns is being disingenuous.
No.. this is the promised miracle patch that we have been hearing about for weeks. With one mighty swoop thay shall change the combat system, change the magic system, remove the lag, change the skill system, fix the database, fix the AI,put in real guards in town, get rid of invisible walls blocking where you can't go, add the mini-games for harvesting, triple the PvE content, fix the patcher, fix the installer and solve global warming.
I can't wait!
Edit to add: Oh yeah.. it will fix all the nowgame.exe issues too!
most of that is due to fubared installs like mine and buncha other nowgame exe was fixed with a reinstall using the newest patcher..
some are mem crashes tho.. thats a diffent issue tho
Its funny how whatever SV does few kids here just keep on spewing hate and rage.
If they dont update the community then they lack communication witht heir fanbase and are inexperienced modders.
If they update the community about the current state of the game and their plans fro improving it then they are doing damage control and its a sure sign it will fail.
If they dont work to improve the combat system then the game will fail cuz combat sux.
If they work to improve the combat system the game will fail cuz its open beta and the inetrnational game dev law says youc ant improve stuff during open beta.
and so on and so forth.
I think its high time that the mmorpg.com mods start doing their work. RIght now what we have here is lawless troll den where an indie company developing an original and non standard mmorpg get bashed without a sign of constructive critisism or prooves to back so bold statements.
I thought mmorpg.com was a palce where a player could get unbiased information about a game he may want to play. Sadly this place has mutated into somethign else....
Its funny how whatever SV does few kids here just keep on spewing hate and rage. If they dont update the community then they lack communication witht heir fanbase and are inexperienced modders. If they update the community about the current state of the game and their plans fro improving it then they are doing damage control and its a sure sign it will fail.
If they dont work to improve the combat system then the game will fail cuz combat sux. If they work to improve the combat system the game will fail cuz its open beta and the inetrnational game dev law says youc ant improve stuff during open beta.
and so on and so forth. I think its high time that the mmorpg.com mods start doing their work. RIght now what we have here is lawless troll den where an indie company developing an original and non standard mmorpg get bashed without a sign of constructive critisism or prooves to back so bold statements.
I thought mmorpg.com was a palce where a player could get unbiased information about a game he may want to play. Sadly this place has mutated into somethign else....
look on the bright side, atleast the page is packed with ads. Why would they stop the blatant trolling when those trolls have a chance to see one of the 4 ads on this page, and every page.
Now wonder how long till they send me a warning...
I think its high time that the mmorpg.com mods start doing their work. RIght now what we have here is lawless troll den where an indie company developing an original and non standard mmorpg get bashed without a sign of constructive critisism or prooves to back so bold statements.
I thought mmorpg.com was a palce where a player could get unbiased information about a game he may want to play. Sadly this place has mutated into somethign else....
Doing their jobs? The job of the mod here to to keep the personal attacks to a minimum, enforce site rules about things that are not supposed to be discussed here, etc. The mods job is NOT to play fanboy to any particular game, even if the devs are "indie"(as if that excuses everything), and act as the Holy Crusader defending the virtue of said MMO.
The problem you seem to have is that people ARE allowed to post their unbiased opinion of the game after having tried it. I am currently playing, are you? And based on my play time, I can't see this game having a hope of surviving. This isn't because I am biased against the game. I love the concept and want a game of this type to succeed. Why else would I spend weeks in a game that is often times completely unplayable in the hope it improves? But this isn't going to be the one sandbox to rule them all.
You don't get it. It has nothing to do about whether or not I like the game. I don't enjoy Aion or WoW, but they work as advertised. I have no interest in them so I don't go to their boards. I had great interest in this game, therefore I tested it, and discuss it. But the game is broken, and SV have shown no sign they have the ability to fix it. If it was simply a matter of not liking the playstyle I wouldn't be bothered to post about it. And it is not the job of the mods here to censor any post that discusses what is wrong with the game. You have the mortalonline.com forums if that is what you want.
If I loved cheese but the shop was just selling sour milk, damn right I would be telling other people their "cheese" sucked.
Again just statements without any in-depth explication about why you think the game is broken.
Maybe it tastes as soar milk to you becouse you did not let the milk to mature into cheese?
OK, since you asked. Database is completely broken. Skills are sometimes in your book and sometimes not. You re-log to fix stuff and the missing stuff returns but new stuff is missing. Same with gear, sometimes there and sometimes not. Any time there are more than a handful of players around, the database just cannot keep up and it can be several minutes before the transaction started completes. Server needs rebooted daily just to be playable.
Mobs had to be turned off just to make game playable. That was said to have been the issue with all the other lag, and was supposedly fixed, but wasn't, as the database issues continued after the mobs were removed.
Way to much is done client side without server checks, making all sorts of hacking possible. Not just the Lictor contolling I mentioned in another thread, but fly hacks, teleports, speed-hacks, and walking underground hacks are all possible and have been seen in game.
Combat is about to be re-hauled and will likely break even more considering their track record. Redisigning anything this close to release is asking for trouble.
The world is pretty much empty. Portions of it are blocked off by invisible walls, and most of what is not blocked off is barren. Even the area that do have mobe have about 6 or 7 to choose from.
Armour has no description when you mouse-over the icon, and every icon looks the same regardless of what type of armour it is. You don't know what you are putting on until you wear it and see it on your paper doll, and even then you have no idea how good it is.
Weapons, while having acronyms to tell you what it is made from, still have nothing to give you any idea how good it is. And "some damage" doesn't give you much feedback when testing it in combat.
PvP is basically people pushing each other in town hoping someone mistakingly attacks so everyone can yell "guard" and get them killed.
You know things are pretty bad when the CEO comes out to do damage control. Its kinda late to start redoing some core mechanics like combat and magic.. Those should have been taken care of in late stages of alpha / early closed beta testing. Here is what I got out of it.. 1. Hit boxes changed = larger hit boxes. 2. Please dont leave , please dont leave , please dont leave.. 3. Weapon Arc increased = bigger reach for weapons. 4. Please dont leave , please dont leave , please dont leave. Ect. Ect.
Another uninformed one. SV have been releasing patches every 2 weeks (every week at first), these patches change everything, combat has been changed a lot since July. It is just that SV do not have many employees so they have to focus on things one at a time. They might release another combat patch in a few months once they fix up/add some other stuff.
weapon arc means, if you swing the blade it will hit anyone in its path before hitting what ever you aimed at. RIGHT NOW, you only hit what ever your cross hair is aimed at ONLY. It is a very anticipated mechanic...
Here we go again... I dont like cheese...does this mean I have to go to the nearest shop and start screaming "Cheese is bad! Dont buy it!!" Its perfectly cool that you may not like the game and I understand and respect that. Me, myslef have expressed my worries about the game on the official forums several times. But always doing it in constructive manner and trying to offer an alternative solution. However there are several subjects(if you check out these boards you will see them in almost every MO thread though most of them dont own/dont play the game) that seem to be full-time working as a MO trolsl (i.e. Hercules, Inferno, Slapshot,etc) These guys are bashing anyone who likes the game lableing him as fanboy, delusional, etc, etc. These guys keep posting over-exagareted, full with assumptions posts with the only point to harm the game and the company behind it.
Dont get me wrong, I dont havenothing against you or other ppl that simply dont like the game. What I do dislike is how this handfull of ppl are let to freely bash the game without any constructive critsism whats so ever.
For the record... I have kept all of my replies strictly to talking about issues with the game and the company as opposed to talking about other posters. I also never went on the official forums and bragged about getting banned here and called for other "paladins" to come to these forums and fight a holy war.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
You don't get it. It has nothing to do about whether or not I like the game. I don't enjoy Aion or WoW, but they work as advertised. I have no interest in them so I don't go to their boards. I had great interest in this game, therefore I tested it, and discuss it. But the game is broken, and SV have shown no sign they have the ability to fix it. If it was simply a matter of not liking the playstyle I wouldn't be bothered to post about it. And it is not the job of the mods here to censor any post that discusses what is wrong with the game. You have the mortalonline.com forums if that is what you want.
If I loved cheese but the shop was just selling sour milk, damn right I would be telling other people their "cheese" sucked.
i dont see Mo advertising the game works one way or another XD except henrik saying there not happy with the way the game has ran in open beta
You know things are pretty bad when the CEO comes out to do damage control. Its kinda late to start redoing some core mechanics like combat and magic.. Those should have been taken care of in late stages of alpha / early closed beta testing. Here is what I got out of it.. 1. Hit boxes changed = larger hit boxes. 2. Please dont leave , please dont leave , please dont leave.. 3. Weapon Arc increased = bigger reach for weapons. 4. Please dont leave , please dont leave , please dont leave. Ect. Ect.
Another uninformed one. SV have been releasing patches every 2 weeks (every week at first), these patches change everything, combat has been changed a lot since July. It is just that SV do not have many employees so they have to focus on things one at a time. They might release another combat patch in a few months once they fix up/add some other stuff.
weapon arc means, if you swing the blade it will hit anyone in its path before hitting what ever you aimed at. RIGHT NOW, you only hit what ever your cross hair is aimed at ONLY. It is a very anticipated mechanic...
Nothing like this..
You can keep pretending all you want.
im guess your weapon will stop when you hit someone instead. thats interesting..
You don't get it. It has nothing to do about whether or not I like the game. I don't enjoy Aion or WoW, but they work as advertised. I have no interest in them so I don't go to their boards. I had great interest in this game, therefore I tested it, and discuss it. But the game is broken, and SV have shown no sign they have the ability to fix it. If it was simply a matter of not liking the playstyle I wouldn't be bothered to post about it. And it is not the job of the mods here to censor any post that discusses what is wrong with the game. You have the mortalonline.com forums if that is what you want.
If I loved cheese but the shop was just selling sour milk, damn right I would be telling other people their "cheese" sucked.
i dont see Mo advertising the game works one way or another XD except henrik saying there not happy with the way the game has ran in open beta
Exactly, people just love to assume and vent hate. I find that type of behavior perfectly acceptable if the game was LAUNCHED after 8 years in development and missing 90% of the features they promised till the very end.
It's beta /shrug, why argue where the alpha line ends and open begins? Once again it is BETA! Give it a rest already, save that disgruntled hatred for after launch. And if you think all MMOs launch perfectly then your inexperience is blatantly apparent.
To me it is an open alpha, and that's fine. It has serious issues, and that's fine I do my part and report major bugs/errors without having to vent my anger on a forum that the devs will hardly ever see, nor do I come on public forums and pretend the game is FANTASTIC.
A previous poster said it best, be constructive and not some raging little kid. If the devs speak openly about the problem, people bash them. If the devs have kept quiet for years like Darkfall I bet they wouldve got bashed as well. If the devs are being realistic about the progress people bash them, if they wouldve lied to you and said "ITS WORKING AS INTENDED" they wouldve been bashed once again. It's a "no win" situation.
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No.. this is the promised miracle patch that we have been hearing about for weeks. With one mighty swoop thay shall change the combat system, change the magic system, remove the lag, change the skill system, fix the database, fix the AI,put in real guards in town, get rid of invisible walls blocking where you can't go, add the mini-games for harvesting, triple the PvE content, fix the patcher, fix the installer and solve global warming.
I can't wait!
Edit to add: Oh yeah.. it will fix all the nowgame.exe issues too!
most of that is due to fubared installs like mine and buncha other nowgame exe was fixed with a reinstall using the newest patcher..
some are mem crashes tho.. thats a diffent issue tho
or wait a few days for bugs from the patch to be fixed
so they're basically re-doing the whole game during open beta testing.lol
I win!!! LOL@U
no there switching out the place holder stuff like they did with the crafting
ROFL
Its funny how whatever SV does few kids here just keep on spewing hate and rage.
If they dont update the community then they lack communication witht heir fanbase and are inexperienced modders.
If they update the community about the current state of the game and their plans fro improving it then they are doing damage control and its a sure sign it will fail.
If they dont work to improve the combat system then the game will fail cuz combat sux.
If they work to improve the combat system the game will fail cuz its open beta and the inetrnational game dev law says youc ant improve stuff during open beta.
and so on and so forth.
I think its high time that the mmorpg.com mods start doing their work. RIght now what we have here is lawless troll den where an indie company developing an original and non standard mmorpg get bashed without a sign of constructive critisism or prooves to back so bold statements.
I thought mmorpg.com was a palce where a player could get unbiased information about a game he may want to play. Sadly this place has mutated into somethign else....
look on the bright side, atleast the page is packed with ads. Why would they stop the blatant trolling when those trolls have a chance to see one of the 4 ads on this page, and every page.
Now wonder how long till they send me a warning...
My sig is just as logical as your posts are
Doing their jobs? The job of the mod here to to keep the personal attacks to a minimum, enforce site rules about things that are not supposed to be discussed here, etc. The mods job is NOT to play fanboy to any particular game, even if the devs are "indie"(as if that excuses everything), and act as the Holy Crusader defending the virtue of said MMO.
The problem you seem to have is that people ARE allowed to post their unbiased opinion of the game after having tried it. I am currently playing, are you? And based on my play time, I can't see this game having a hope of surviving. This isn't because I am biased against the game. I love the concept and want a game of this type to succeed. Why else would I spend weeks in a game that is often times completely unplayable in the hope it improves? But this isn't going to be the one sandbox to rule them all.
You don't get it. It has nothing to do about whether or not I like the game. I don't enjoy Aion or WoW, but they work as advertised. I have no interest in them so I don't go to their boards. I had great interest in this game, therefore I tested it, and discuss it. But the game is broken, and SV have shown no sign they have the ability to fix it. If it was simply a matter of not liking the playstyle I wouldn't be bothered to post about it. And it is not the job of the mods here to censor any post that discusses what is wrong with the game. You have the mortalonline.com forums if that is what you want.
If I loved cheese but the shop was just selling sour milk, damn right I would be telling other people their "cheese" sucked.
Again just statements without any in-depth explication about why you think the game is broken.
Maybe it tastes as soar milk to you becouse you did not let the milk to mature into cheese?
OK, since you asked. Database is completely broken. Skills are sometimes in your book and sometimes not. You re-log to fix stuff and the missing stuff returns but new stuff is missing. Same with gear, sometimes there and sometimes not. Any time there are more than a handful of players around, the database just cannot keep up and it can be several minutes before the transaction started completes. Server needs rebooted daily just to be playable.
Mobs had to be turned off just to make game playable. That was said to have been the issue with all the other lag, and was supposedly fixed, but wasn't, as the database issues continued after the mobs were removed.
Way to much is done client side without server checks, making all sorts of hacking possible. Not just the Lictor contolling I mentioned in another thread, but fly hacks, teleports, speed-hacks, and walking underground hacks are all possible and have been seen in game.
Combat is about to be re-hauled and will likely break even more considering their track record. Redisigning anything this close to release is asking for trouble.
The world is pretty much empty. Portions of it are blocked off by invisible walls, and most of what is not blocked off is barren. Even the area that do have mobe have about 6 or 7 to choose from.
Armour has no description when you mouse-over the icon, and every icon looks the same regardless of what type of armour it is. You don't know what you are putting on until you wear it and see it on your paper doll, and even then you have no idea how good it is.
Weapons, while having acronyms to tell you what it is made from, still have nothing to give you any idea how good it is. And "some damage" doesn't give you much feedback when testing it in combat.
PvP is basically people pushing each other in town hoping someone mistakingly attacks so everyone can yell "guard" and get them killed.
Need I go on?
Another uninformed one. SV have been releasing patches every 2 weeks (every week at first), these patches change everything, combat has been changed a lot since July. It is just that SV do not have many employees so they have to focus on things one at a time. They might release another combat patch in a few months once they fix up/add some other stuff.
weapon arc means, if you swing the blade it will hit anyone in its path before hitting what ever you aimed at. RIGHT NOW, you only hit what ever your cross hair is aimed at ONLY. It is a very anticipated mechanic...
Nothing like this..
You can keep pretending all you want.
For the record... I have kept all of my replies strictly to talking about issues with the game and the company as opposed to talking about other posters. I also never went on the official forums and bragged about getting banned here and called for other "paladins" to come to these forums and fight a holy war.
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017.
Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
i dont see Mo advertising the game works one way or another XD except henrik saying there not happy with the way the game has ran in open beta
Another uninformed one. SV have been releasing patches every 2 weeks (every week at first), these patches change everything, combat has been changed a lot since July. It is just that SV do not have many employees so they have to focus on things one at a time. They might release another combat patch in a few months once they fix up/add some other stuff.
weapon arc means, if you swing the blade it will hit anyone in its path before hitting what ever you aimed at. RIGHT NOW, you only hit what ever your cross hair is aimed at ONLY. It is a very anticipated mechanic...
Nothing like this..
You can keep pretending all you want.
im guess your weapon will stop when you hit someone instead. thats interesting..
i dont see Mo advertising the game works one way or another XD except henrik saying there not happy with the way the game has ran in open beta
Exactly, people just love to assume and vent hate. I find that type of behavior perfectly acceptable if the game was LAUNCHED after 8 years in development and missing 90% of the features they promised till the very end.
It's beta /shrug, why argue where the alpha line ends and open begins? Once again it is BETA! Give it a rest already, save that disgruntled hatred for after launch. And if you think all MMOs launch perfectly then your inexperience is blatantly apparent.
To me it is an open alpha, and that's fine. It has serious issues, and that's fine I do my part and report major bugs/errors without having to vent my anger on a forum that the devs will hardly ever see, nor do I come on public forums and pretend the game is FANTASTIC.
A previous poster said it best, be constructive and not some raging little kid. If the devs speak openly about the problem, people bash them. If the devs have kept quiet for years like Darkfall I bet they wouldve got bashed as well. If the devs are being realistic about the progress people bash them, if they wouldve lied to you and said "ITS WORKING AS INTENDED" they wouldve been bashed once again. It's a "no win" situation.