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World of Warcraft subscription #'s. Accurate?
lucabrasi
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g4tv.com/videos/44270/The-MMO-Report-Thursday-February-18th/
They admit that 70% of thier numbers never get past the free trial account. This means only 2.875 mil actually play the game, and it's hard telling how many of those are gold sellers.
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No. The 11.5 mil IS that last 30% dude.
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Or does it mean that there would be 30 million people playing if WoW had a near 100% retention rate?
Or does it mean that there would be 30 million people playing if WoW had a near 100% retention rate?
He said " 70% of the games poplulation", I don't know how else to take that from the CEO. If it wasn't the games population, why wouldn't he chose the right wording to not make it sound like that?
Or does it mean that there would be 30 million people playing if WoW had a near 100% retention rate?
He said " 70% of the games poplulation", I don't know how else to take that from the CEO. If it wasn't the games population, why wouldn't he chose the right wording to not make it sound like that?
there pop is 11.5 or so million. However, of ALL the people who try it 70% don't go further.
to a blind bat methinks.
No worries, not a big deal really.
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"World of Warcraft's Subscriber Definition: World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules." from http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/press/pressreleases.html?081121
So trials are excluded from their sub numbers.
/EoT
Or does it mean that there would be 30 million people playing if WoW had a near 100% retention rate?
He said " 70% of the games poplulation", I don't know how else to take that from the CEO. If it wasn't the games population, why wouldn't he chose the right wording to not make it sound like that?
there pop is 11.5 or so million. However, of ALL the people who try it 70% don't go further.
to a blind bat methinks.
No worries, not a big deal really.
He did not say of all the people who try it, he said of the game's population...
G4TV is serious business.
Since Blizzard excludes subscribers in their total, the much more intersting fact is that roughly 30 million people have tried World of Warcraft. Given that the total MMO market was only about 2-3 million when they started that is an amazing figure and any company should get kudos for achieving it.
There is no reason to try to tear other games down. Instead perhaps our time would be better spent playing and enjoying those games that appeal to us. Or at the very least doing some basic research before posting inflamitory threads.
Let's go through this slowly.
"70% of the game's population does not upgrade from their trial account."
"World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules."
Free promotional subscriptions sound suspiciously like free trials, don't they? Out of the 100% who try World of Warcraft for free, 70% (of that number, not of the game's total population) don't level past 10. Look, it's Morgan Webb. She's not on TV for her brains. But even if you want to listen to her, how can you claim that the 11.5mil number is a lie when she said that subs have been steady at 11.5mil for the last 14 months? So even Morgan thinks you're an idiot.
Or does it mean that there would be 30 million people playing if WoW had a near 100% retention rate?
He said " 70% of the games poplulation", I don't know how else to take that from the CEO. If it wasn't the games population, why wouldn't he chose the right wording to not make it sound like that?
there pop is 11.5 or so million. However, of ALL the people who try it 70% don't go further.
to a blind bat methinks.
No worries, not a big deal really.
He did not say of all the people who try it, he said of the game's population...
The press release of every subscribtion number announcement comes with a subscriber definition. Blizzard only includes people who currently have an active account. They are excluding trials and canceled accounts.
QFT
Once again, everyone except Blizzard is a liar.
Once again, everyone except Blizzard is a liar.
I do not see how what you quoted would condemn anyone as a "liar." But i guess blizzard is just out to get everyone right? They lie about everything and hypnotize asians to play their games to bump their subs.Either that, or a bunch of people mindlessly bash the game with anything they can.
Like said before, obviously the number they have now is the 30% retention. I really doubt only 11.5 million have tried the game, and it's even outlined when they release sub numbers that trials do not count.
Just get over it, it's just a number.
IDk i would bet that was has an obscene number of trials considering their free and i have dont about 7 even though i suscribe just if im somewhere i can't play my normal account and i feel like starting a new thing. i never level past ten on these trials
It's almost like I have seen this topic 2.875 million times.
Seriously, stale topics are stale.
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Once again, everyone except Blizzard is a liar.
No, you and your ilk fail at simple comprehension. Or maybe you just refuse to believe anything positive about WoW, because its not EVE?
It would be very illegal for Blizzard's CEO to mislead people by stating an incorrect subscription number. Now, some companys, like CCP and Aventurine could lie all day about their numbers. Not Blizzard.
Once again, everyone except Blizzard is a liar.
Not at all, but even you have to admit to the ridiculousness of post #1.
I've read somewhere its 2.9 and 2 million are asians.
So 11 million play the game and 24 or so million people played the game an quit after the trial? That is insane, I wonder what those other 24 million people are doing? They obviously all aren't playing another MMO because they say that WoW takes up 60% of the total people that play mmo's.
But to me those numbers shows that the majority of the people that played it didn't like it, Its just that the number of people that tried the game out was so high they can achieve their high subscription numbers. I just wonder if any other game has had almost 40 million people try their game? If not I can see why all these games have the sub numbers that they do. It makes me wonder what subs would all these other games have if they had the same amount of people try their game. Would they be right up their with blizzards sub numbers?
Sorry if this doesn't make sense I just woke up. lol
It makes perfect sense. You hate WoW, and you're jealous of WoW. You will defend all the crappy MMOs out there, and blame their lack of fun on WoW. You will attack WoW, because its the cool thing to do. All the EVE and LOTRO players do it, so it must be cool.
You made perfect sense.
Actually i don't see where he says he 'hates wow'? think your reading the wrong post..
Don't know about Europe, Asia, Africa etc but within the Americas alone, the amount of advertising by Blizzard using Mr.T, Shatner and the midget guy (sorry forget your name little dude), you are gonna have a ton of people trying the free trial just to see what the hell World of Warcraft is even if they have never heard of an MMORPG before..
I can believe 24million trying free trials without sticking it out...you probably get that many trying free trials of 'Video Proffessor' or 'Rosetta Stone' etc just from the advert including the words 'free trial'.
ps. i Like WoW, Lotro and Eve for different reasons
It makes perfect sense. You hate WoW, and you're jealous of WoW. You will defend all the crappy MMOs out there, and blame their lack of fun on WoW. You will attack WoW, because its the cool thing to do. All the EVE and LOTRO players do it, so it must be cool.
You made perfect sense.
I don't hate WoW at all man, I played it for a year so why would I play a game that I hate for a fucking year. Granted I quit right after BC came out cuz I didn't like the direction the game was going. I'm just trying to play the devils advocate here, and trying to get others to see a different point of view, something they may not have thought of before.
Its just funny that you say that I hate wow because its cool and that I play crappy games. To me it just seem you only care about your opinion, and only your opinion is right. IMO WoW isn't the best game for me, so I play a game that I enjoy. I just never fit in with the mainstream crowd and thus I don't enjoy the same stuff that the mainstream people do simple as that.
It makes perfect sense. You hate WoW, and you're jealous of WoW. You will defend all the crappy MMOs out there, and blame their lack of fun on WoW. You will attack WoW, because its the cool thing to do. All the EVE and LOTRO players do it, so it must be cool.
You made perfect sense.
I don't hate WoW at all man, I played it for a year so why would I play a game that I hate for a fucking year. Granted I quit right after BC came out cuz I didn't like the direction the game was going. I'm just trying to play the devils advocate here, and trying to get others to see a different point of view, something they may not have thought of before.
Its just funny that you say that I hate wow because its cool and that I play crappy games. To me it just seem you only care about your opinion, and only your opinion is right. IMO WoW isn't the best game for me, so I play a game that I enjoy. I just never fit in with the mainstream crowd and thus I don't enjoy the same stuff that the mainstream people do simple as that.
Sorry. What view was I suppose to see? That if a lot of people tried out WAR it would have lots of subscrubers? WAR was one of the hottest selling games for a month. It beat WoW's initial opening month. So did AoC. Guess where those games are now?
You're implying WoW's success is that so many people tried it was bound not to fail. Well, lots of people have tried AoC and WAR. Not many people cared enough to stay.
You don't like WoW? Good for you. I don't recall bashing you for not liking WoW. Are you assuming I like WoW? I just don't like mindless bashing.
there pop is 11.5 or so million. However, of ALL the people who try it 70% don't go further.
to a blind bat methinks.
No worries, not a big deal really.
He did not say of all the people who try it, he said of the game's population...
Well, here's another source. besides, as was mentioned their pop numbers are not taken from the trial.
Blizzard CEO Mike Morhaime said earlier today that 70% of people playing on a WoW trial account (which I'd imagine would be most new players) fail to progress past level 10 in the game.
http://kotaku.com/5469238/most-new-world-of-warcraft-players-dont-go-past-level-10
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lol, probably enjoying their lives.
Most likely a friend was bragging about it or they saw the hype and decided to try it. Most people would never play an mmo becaues quite frankly most people aren't crazy like us and would spend the time grinding and doing what most likely would be considered sub par gameplay.
If you really look at what we do in mmo's it seems kind of insane.
We are either OCD or just like chatting at our computers. And yet... here we are!
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Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
does it really matter?
IN THE FACE!