Originally posted by r0hn I believe L2 has the most subcribers out of the 3. If anyone doesn't think L2 was published by a company with money, has never heard of NCSoft. They are a publicly traded company, and hence have to meet the SEC requirements on disclosures of sales information as a public record. Name all the NCSoft mmorpgs out there? Ignorance is not an excuse for making stupid remarks. I am not a fan of NCSoft, doesn't mean I haven't heard of them. WOW probably has the most NA subscribers.
I totally agree with you.... cuz i'm a diehard fan of L2.. sorry
L2 will go on as long as its "e-baying" population grows, i did think that it had a great potential as a gaming experience but at the time i was expecting more content than just grinding all day to compete with cheaters that buy money from the net, and don't tell me that it's ok. People are whining about farmers, but the problem is the grinding factor that makes some "weak_minded" players fall into the e-bay side of the force
Originally posted by ozgamerz Originally posted by Novaseeker There you go, another WoW fan trying to make all justifications to fit WoW. Man, every mmorpgs need kiddies and hardcore people that'll waste their life into the game, that's how it gets the game hyped up and going. Look at Counter-strike and Diablo(I&II) and Starcraft, they are bloody old game and whenever the developers made new patches or new stuff on it, people just play and play especially those kiddies, working adults have no time for these, unless one of your main lifestyle is playing game 2 to 4 hours a day, then I'll have nothing to say. When you buy PC game magazines, do you read the reviewers aren't hardcore players and etc? Developers will only target hardcore players because even though many may come and go, but it's still these brats that keep the game alive and surviving. Don't believe, look at those old titles that I mentioned above. They still have plenty of people playing. Mmorpgs are not different from those game, the community is still consists of teenagers, college and university students. People whom are aged 25+ are like only 5% to 10% of the gaming cake. Ang by the way, WoW isn't the most fantastic mmorpg out there.. it's just NA making so hot... no offense but, American does not lead the way in this world in every single way. When you actually count the people that play the game, Wow isn't the most and best.Hmm. I think that there are a lot of gamers who are beyond university days. I think there are a lot of people who work who like to play a game they can play maybe 1-2 hours a few days a week and have fun with it. Generally online games have not been designed for this market. WoW is one of the first to really be designed around this kind of gamer (CoH was probably the first, I think), and Blizzard is proving that they can make a ton of money by catering to this kind of gamer as well as the younger gamers who have a lot of time on their hands. Ultimately I think WoW is too much tilted towards the casual gamer to hold the attention of most MMO fans beyond a few months, but the casual gamers and older gamers will stay in WoW for a while because they can make progress in relatively little time and still have fun, while in some other MMOs you simply can't make progress with that kind of time investment. So while I think that it is fair to criticize WoW, I think you're wrong about the size of the gaming market that actually has jobs, famililes and the like and plays 1-2 hours a few days a week. There are a lot of those, and they generally have more money to spend and so they are a great market to aim for if you are designing a game and can actuial design it to appeal to these people, as Blizzard did.Dude, I'll only believe Blizzard if they release official press stating that most players are 25 and above. Other than that, it's just anyone's guess and opinion. Hence, what you claim has no credibility.
I dont understand why you are discrediting someone elses credibility when your claims themself have no credibility either. Lineage 2 will be around for aslong as WoW but it will never top 100,000 players or prolly even reach its peak again of 75,000 players. NCSoft doesn't release subcription numbers for NA anymore because after stuffing 3rd party programs down their subscribers throats they prolly dropped below the 50,000 mark. I agree L2 but NCSoftNA , but I dont believe it has much of a place in the NA or Euro markets.
Originally posted by paradyme Originally posted by ozgamerz Originally posted by Novaseeker There you go, another WoW fan trying to make all justifications to fit WoW. Man, every mmorpgs need kiddies and hardcore people that'll waste their life into the game, that's how it gets the game hyped up and going. Look at Counter-strike and Diablo(I&II) and Starcraft, they are bloody old game and whenever the developers made new patches or new stuff on it, people just play and play especially those kiddies, working adults have no time for these, unless one of your main lifestyle is playing game 2 to 4 hours a day, then I'll have nothing to say. When you buy PC game magazines, do you read the reviewers aren't hardcore players and etc? Developers will only target hardcore players because even though many may come and go, but it's still these brats that keep the game alive and surviving. Don't believe, look at those old titles that I mentioned above. They still have plenty of people playing. Mmorpgs are not different from those game, the community is still consists of teenagers, college and university students. People whom are aged 25+ are like only 5% to 10% of the gaming cake. Ang by the way, WoW isn't the most fantastic mmorpg out there.. it's just NA making so hot... no offense but, American does not lead the way in this world in every single way. When you actually count the people that play the game, Wow isn't the most and best.Hmm. I think that there are a lot of gamers who are beyond university days. I think there are a lot of people who work who like to play a game they can play maybe 1-2 hours a few days a week and have fun with it. Generally online games have not been designed for this market. WoW is one of the first to really be designed around this kind of gamer (CoH was probably the first, I think), and Blizzard is proving that they can make a ton of money by catering to this kind of gamer as well as the younger gamers who have a lot of time on their hands. Ultimately I think WoW is too much tilted towards the casual gamer to hold the attention of most MMO fans beyond a few months, but the casual gamers and older gamers will stay in WoW for a while because they can make progress in relatively little time and still have fun, while in some other MMOs you simply can't make progress with that kind of time investment. So while I think that it is fair to criticize WoW, I think you're wrong about the size of the gaming market that actually has jobs, famililes and the like and plays 1-2 hours a few days a week. There are a lot of those, and they generally have more money to spend and so they are a great market to aim for if you are designing a game and can actuial design it to appeal to these people, as Blizzard did.Dude, I'll only believe Blizzard if they release official press stating that most players are 25 and above. Other than that, it's just anyone's guess and opinion. Hence, what you claim has no credibility.
I dont understand why you are discrediting someone elses credibility when your claims themself have no credibility either. Lineage 2 will be around for aslong as WoW but it will never top 100,000 players or prolly even reach its peak again of 75,000 players. NCSoft doesn't release subcription numbers for NA anymore because after stuffing 3rd party programs down their subscribers throats they prolly dropped below the 50,000 mark. I agree L2 but NCSoftNA , but I dont believe it has much of a place in the NA or Euro markets.
I'm only saying that most players are the working class people and not those hardcore teenage to young adults. Unless the developers of every game release the actual figures, it's anyone's guess. Hence I'm discrediting the previous poster stating that point about most gamers are working adults. Read dude
I'm only saying that most players are the working class people and not those hardcore teenage to young adults. Unless the developers of every game release the actual figures, it's anyone's guess. Hence I'm discrediting the previous poster stating that point about most gamers are working adults. Read dude
Well, they will never release that information, but based on numerous articles and studies I have seen on the net and elsewhere, the average age playing these games is mid to late 20s, which means that for every teen playing there is a 30-something playing. But beyond that, the gaming industry knows that, as a matter of marketing, if they can reach the 25-35 set there is a lot more disposable income there (hence people can buy numerous games and/or subscribe to numerous games) as compared with the 15-25 set, so there's a logical reason to aim games towards a higher demographic age-wise. Blizzard knows this, and they designed a game around it. A lot of people think that WoW is organized around younger gamers, but frankly most of the people I met in WoW were 25-40 with jobs, spouses and kids. WoW fit them very well because of its reduced time commitment, and this has helped WoW be a great success. If Blizzard had its act together in terms of servers, there would be even more subscribers than there are already.
Having said all of that, of course L2 will be around for a long time. The "home market", if you will, is *huge* and loyal, and the "closer to home" markets in Asia are also rather large. The game has less appeal in NA and Europe (graphics and sensibility of the game are more Asian, which is to be expected given that the vast, vast majority of the people the game was designed for are, in fact, Asian). While the western genre of MMOs has moved in the direction of more questing, hand-holding and ease of play, L2 remains in the older mode of more open-ended gameplay, more killing oriented, less hand-holding. I'm not knocking either kind of design, but simply stating that each kind of design appeals to different people, and, in the case of these games, there are cultural issues at play as well. L2 is a wide-open game, the player has pretty much 100% freedom and there is no hand-holding .... it's also a lot less involved in terms fo game play, very much focused on killing mobs, with not that much else to be emphasized unless one is an artisan Dwarf. So L2 will appeal to folks who like killing, who like PvP, and who like to have a wide-open kind of gameplay. EQ2, to take a different example, is much more constrained (e.g., access quests, locked encounters, no PvP), much more quest-driven, much more hand-holding and also more involved in terms of crafting, economy and so forth. So which one will appeal depends to a significant degree on what kind of play style you prefer in terms of environment, activity and variety. It *does* seem to be the case, however, that the L2 style of game appeals more in Asia than the EQ2/WoW style of game, while the exact opposite is true in NA and Europe.
Originally posted by ozgamerz Who has the biggest community at the moment? WoW i presume? I know that each game caters for different players. What do you all think?
I'm sure all 3 will survive, however from what I've heard over tha past couple months, Lineage 2 has been LOOSING subscriptions hardcore. I never got a chance to play l2 because for some reason it wouldn't run on my pc. if your looking for the most player base, i'm going to have to say l2 and wow are about tied. I heard so much negative about l2 that made me agree to not really give it a shot again, mainly the grind everyone said was Horrid. like FFXI horrid. and I could NOT stand FFXI. eq2 was a good game but just a little choppy on my pc. WoW has picked up all the next gen. players for mmo games because of it being blizzard (diablo 2 kiddied).
Lineage 2 has loadsa subs only cus of korea :S They have to taste! WOW probally has alot more subs now! It has the most in europe and north america :P Lineage 2 has nowhere near the same numbers! WOW is launched in the Asian countrys and already has over a million there :P
Fact is noone can belive the numbers anymore! WOW has beaten Linage 2, you can belive that :P Everquest 2 has the less but has a longer life!
Lineage 2: Tasteless grindfest full of thousands of bot hackers :P Has about 1-2 years left!
Everquest 2: The dev's make sooo many updates the game can only get better :P Will live another 5 years!
WOW: Already got an outdated graphics engine, so has a less of a life than EQ2! Fans will play and wont care but other ppl wont! I see lack of updates compared to EQ2's patch everyday, adventure packs and 2 expansions a year! But the fact is WOW is here to stay :P My guess 3 years
Yes the grind in L2 was/is terrible. imo L2 will not last very long after release of Guild Wars. In fact there should be a mass exodus of p2p subscribers from alot of mmorpgs
Well, for starters, I won't say that either L2, EQ2 or WoW will die off in a matter of years. Look at EQ1 and L1 and the most unpopular game that I don't like, RO... they are still in the market with many players playing it. However, I think mmorpgs that will always upgrade in expansion sets ... such as Lineage2, will continue to drawn attention from gamers and it will keep retaining the interests of players. Lineage2 is by far the better Korean Mmorpg that is ever created. However, even with the release of Guildwars, that still will not affect the population of L2 because it's different type of gameplay.. I haven't played Guildwars, but I believe it'll be great to own... good concept.. and it's all from NCSOFT
Uh, I dont think its going to die first. Its currently the most popular MMO out, I meen they had to stop production of the game because the servers were over populated, what does that tell you? I think EQ2 will die first, because I hear even EQ players don't like EQ2, but w/e. Lineage 2, well Im still not sure yet, its a good game in my eyes.. just really hardcore.
Because alot of blizzard fans bought it I have no clue how people like that game it was the worst mmo i ever played. ya its extremly popular right now but imo its gonna flop soon.
Originally posted by Bigl99 Because alot of blizzard fans bought it I have no clue how people like that game it was the worst mmo i ever played. ya its extremly popular right now but imo its gonna flop soon.
Well, i must say that blizzard games really can sustain many players through time. Just look at Diablo2 and Starcraft.. those games are really really.. old ... but still, it's still going strong and kicking ass. With WoW, it might still have the same effect, but as long as Lineage2 keeps C3 and C4 coming out.. it'll kick WoW's butt.. with so many new stuff ... I'm totally amazed.
IMO the main reason runescape is alive is cause all the job skills and pvp other then that it would fail. WOW on the other hand u can max a job skill in no time and i find the pvp horrible seeing as its ethier u get ganked or a mob of 20 or 30 people go rape one person
WOW, like every other Blizzard game is extremley addictive, I meen thats how they design the games. StarCraft is in the genus book of record for biggest online fanbase [true fact, buy a book and see for your self.] WoW will probably NEVER die. Well, I shouldnt say never, i meen Im sure D2 and StarCraft are in the stages of death, but look how far they'v come, SC came out in like .. wat 96? d2 97? still having ALOT of players online at all times, just imagine WoW, where blizard have learned from ther mistakes to perfect a game that is just fun. However I havent played it lol, but every person I talk to says they love it.
** QUESTION FOR WOW'ERS ** Does WoW have the same system as GuildWarz were you can go on team-raids 24/7? Like I remember on the beta test w/ GuildWarz, you go into pvp area and you auto-assign teams and then you just play another random team to see who wins, < ----- GREAT CONCEPT .. makes it like a MMO, but as a deathmatch - like game as well, were you can go on guild raids at any time, only its not exactly your raid.. reason why I ask is cuz this kid I talk to every day explains stuff like that to me, but w/e lol
Originally posted by daq113 Originally posted by Vampyr so Lineage2 is the doomed one out of the 3 but this is all LONG TERM.Vladamir the impaler
Not realy,WOW has 15% of the market,EQ & EQ 2 have 10%,and Lineage & Lineage 2 have around 40%.All of these games will continue.
Let's just put it this way, WoW will sweep NA and Europe and maybe some of Asia. However, L2 will predominantly get subcribers from Asia. As for EQ2, i think it'll get the smallest cake amongst the 3 mmorpg.
Lineage2- this MMORPG seems to have great potential. Graphics are stunning, almost every medium sized clan is "kwown" within the server because of the politics in this game (war, alliance, player owned castles/towns, castle sieges). Lineage2 has a great community (great as in, people will know you, friend or foe). Bots aren't as "rampant" as people exaggerate them to be, hardly affects your lvling. Gameplay possibilities are endless but it all depends on how the player plays the game (might be intimidating for the new MMORPGers out there). One bad thing about this game is, the grind, best to grind in an evenly balanced group. This game could completely change face within 1-2 years because of the many free chronicles expansions it will have. up to C9? (dunno) but each patch will change the game drastically. This game's got potential. If you hunger for "fame" this game is for you (but you need ALOOOT of time).
EQ2- this MMORPG seemed like it spent 99% of their money on graphics with the old EQ play style, not sure if the "new generation" of MMORPGers will be interested for long. Gameplay depends on how the player plays it also.
WoW - will survive, this MMORPG seems to have an up to date play style with creative features. However, sometimes the player can feel like he's playing a single player game "alongside" many many people. Also there's the problem of people becoming quest zombies... doing quests over and over again. Guilds are so many and so vast, it seems very commonplace and boring. Graphics could use a tune up... This game is very user friendly.
Originally posted by zamoth_bg Originally posted by binary_0011Originally posted by ozgamerzWho has the biggest community at the moment? WoW i presume? I know that each game caters for different players. What do you all think?the world?? L2. it got million of subscribers. Okay, I know you gonna ask : How do you know?? Check it out here wow is like only 1/10 of the cake. How can you really believe this ? Have you heard what is happing with WoW ? They have MASSES of users. And what does this shows 2,5 mil on Lineage 1 ??? hahahah come on hahah 1,5 on Lin2(which is also away from the truth !) And I still think that firms are not going to show their numbers freely! (the biggest game world is on EVE 10k users) (Lin2 have 9 servers (right?) x10000(at max) = 90k users max online) where is the 1,5 mil here? if you add the other countries 90k X 5 = 450k MAX! So add another 200-300k -> 700k-800k AT FULL MAX! what about lineage 1 ? from what I see Lineage 1 should be THE UBER mmorpg around ?! Or maybe.... maybe every asian boy/girl from age of 5 to 25 play lineage1. YES! this is it. lol I want to try lin1 ;)Beta Tested: Lineage2,WoW Trailed: Acherons Call 2, EVE online Subscribed/Active: EVE online->Prakhgoth Lineage2 (freeserver) Anticipate: GuildWars,SEED
You have just made yourself look like the most idiotic fool ever.
For Lineage 1, there are over 40 servers alone for Taiwan, and that's smaller than what Korea has, think about it.
For Lineage 2, there are 9 servers in NA, there are at least 40 servers in Taiwan, and probably over 80 servers in Korea, then there's Japan and China left. Do the math yourself please.
I'm willing to bet that you haven't even seen 1/1000000 of what Lineage 1 is like, and barely played, if at all, Lineage 2.
By the way, I've heard they already have around 13 Chronicles planned. They're gonna continue until...umm... someday when there are no more subscribers left?
Back on topic, ALL 3 WILL SURVIVE FOR YEARS TO COME.
Now this is what I think:
1. Everquest 2 - Last the shortest amount of time 2. WoW - Middle 3. Lineage 2 - Last the longest amount of time
I am not a Lineage 2 fanboy, nor a fanboy of any of these games. You just have to face the truth sometimes, and the truth is, Lineage 2 is rocking the MMORPG market (worldwide).
Originally posted by BumLife people think the games that do well in the US, is equivalent to the popularity of certain games in the world...
USA does not equal to world.
I think that has been the case for a while now. Mostly because US has a lot of $$$ to boost any gaming company to stardoom. However, I also know that Asia will dominate due to the population greater than the US. Somehow, popular games in Asia doesn't mean the US will like it.. but Lineage2 is really a great game minus the grind.. LOL..
Lineage 1 i would have to say is the best. I did not like WoW because the PvP sucked allot when u died u did not loose exp which is really dumb it makes it harder, and u cannot attack anyone u want like when someone attacks your monster if there in the same alliance or horde u cant which is really dumb Lineage blow WoW away
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L2 will go on as long as its "e-baying" population grows, i did think that it had a great potential as a gaming experience but at the time i was expecting more content than just grinding all day to compete with cheaters that buy money from the net, and don't tell me that it's ok.
People are whining about farmers, but the problem is the grinding factor that makes some "weak_minded" players fall into the e-bay side of the force
I dont understand why you are discrediting someone elses credibility when your claims themself have no credibility either. Lineage 2 will be around for aslong as WoW but it will never top 100,000 players or prolly even reach its peak again of 75,000 players. NCSoft doesn't release subcription numbers for NA anymore because after stuffing 3rd party programs down their subscribers throats they prolly dropped below the 50,000 mark. I agree L2
I dont understand why you are discrediting someone elses credibility when your claims themself have no credibility either. Lineage 2 will be around for aslong as WoW but it will never top 100,000 players or prolly even reach its peak again of 75,000 players. NCSoft doesn't release subcription numbers for NA anymore because after stuffing 3rd party programs down their subscribers throats they prolly dropped below the 50,000 mark. I agree L2
I'm only saying that most players are the working class people and not those hardcore teenage to young adults. Unless the developers of every game release the actual figures, it's anyone's guess. Hence I'm discrediting the previous poster stating that point about most gamers are working adults. Read dude
Well, they will never release that information, but based on numerous articles and studies I have seen on the net and elsewhere, the average age playing these games is mid to late 20s, which means that for every teen playing there is a 30-something playing. But beyond that, the gaming industry knows that, as a matter of marketing, if they can reach the 25-35 set there is a lot more disposable income there (hence people can buy numerous games and/or subscribe to numerous games) as compared with the 15-25 set, so there's a logical reason to aim games towards a higher demographic age-wise. Blizzard knows this, and they designed a game around it. A lot of people think that WoW is organized around younger gamers, but frankly most of the people I met in WoW were 25-40 with jobs, spouses and kids. WoW fit them very well because of its reduced time commitment, and this has helped WoW be a great success. If Blizzard had its act together in terms of servers, there would be even more subscribers than there are already.
Having said all of that, of course L2 will be around for a long time. The "home market", if you will, is *huge* and loyal, and the "closer to home" markets in Asia are also rather large. The game has less appeal in NA and Europe (graphics and sensibility of the game are more Asian, which is to be expected given that the vast, vast majority of the people the game was designed for are, in fact, Asian). While the western genre of MMOs has moved in the direction of more questing, hand-holding and ease of play, L2 remains in the older mode of more open-ended gameplay, more killing oriented, less hand-holding. I'm not knocking either kind of design, but simply stating that each kind of design appeals to different people, and, in the case of these games, there are cultural issues at play as well. L2 is a wide-open game, the player has pretty much 100% freedom and there is no hand-holding .... it's also a lot less involved in terms fo game play, very much focused on killing mobs, with not that much else to be emphasized unless one is an artisan Dwarf. So L2 will appeal to folks who like killing, who like PvP, and who like to have a wide-open kind of gameplay. EQ2, to take a different example, is much more constrained (e.g., access quests, locked encounters, no PvP), much more quest-driven, much more hand-holding and also more involved in terms of crafting, economy and so forth. So which one will appeal depends to a significant degree on what kind of play style you prefer in terms of environment, activity and variety. It *does* seem to be the case, however, that the L2 style of game appeals more in Asia than the EQ2/WoW style of game, while the exact opposite is true in NA and Europe.
the world?? L2. it got million of subscribers.
Okay, I know you gonna ask : How do you know??
Check it out here
wow is like only 1/10 of the cake.
If you consider Asian work shops as true subscribers..LOL
1/10th?
WoW's entire population probably makes up your population of Farmers/Bots/ect
1 million subscribers = 999,000 bots + 1,000 true players maybe!
STFU!
Nobody is perfect...My name is Nobody
I'm sure all 3 will survive, however from what I've heard over tha past couple months, Lineage 2 has been LOOSING subscriptions hardcore. I never got a chance to play l2 because for some reason it wouldn't run on my pc. if your looking for the most player base, i'm going to have to say l2 and wow are about tied.
I heard so much negative about l2 that made me agree to not really give it a shot again, mainly the grind everyone said was Horrid. like FFXI horrid. and I could NOT stand FFXI. eq2 was a good game but just a little choppy on my pc. WoW has picked up all the next gen. players for mmo games because of it being blizzard (diablo 2 kiddied).
I'm sorry but your an idiot!
Lineage 2 has loadsa subs only cus of korea :S They have to taste! WOW probally has alot more subs now! It has the most in europe and north america :P Lineage 2 has nowhere near the same numbers! WOW is launched in the Asian countrys and already has over a million there :P
Fact is noone can belive the numbers anymore! WOW has beaten Linage 2, you can belive that :P Everquest 2 has the less but has a longer life!
Lineage 2: Tasteless grindfest full of thousands of bot hackers :P Has about 1-2 years left!
Everquest 2: The dev's make sooo many updates the game can only get better :P Will live another 5 years!
WOW: Already got an outdated graphics engine, so has a less of a life than EQ2! Fans will play and wont care but other ppl wont! I see lack of updates compared to EQ2's patch everyday, adventure packs and 2 expansions a year! But the fact is WOW is here to stay :P My guess 3 years
Well, for starters, I won't say that either L2, EQ2 or WoW will die off in a matter of years. Look at EQ1 and L1 and the most unpopular game that I don't like, RO... they are still in the market with many players playing it. However, I think mmorpgs that will always upgrade in expansion sets ... such as Lineage2, will continue to drawn attention from gamers and it will keep retaining the interests of players. Lineage2 is by far the better Korean Mmorpg that is ever created. However, even with the release of Guildwars, that still will not affect the population of L2 because it's different type of gameplay.. I haven't played Guildwars, but I believe it'll be great to own... good concept.. and it's all from NCSOFT
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Uh, I dont think its going to die first.
Its currently the most popular MMO out, I meen they had to stop production of the game because the servers were over populated, what does that tell you? I think EQ2 will die first, because I hear even EQ players don't like EQ2, but w/e. Lineage 2, well Im still not sure yet, its a good game in my eyes.. just really hardcore.
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Well, i must say that blizzard games really can sustain many players through time. Just look at Diablo2 and Starcraft.. those games are really really.. old ... but still, it's still going strong and kicking ass. With WoW, it might still have the same effect, but as long as Lineage2 keeps C3 and C4 coming out.. it'll kick WoW's butt.. with so many new stuff ... I'm totally amazed.
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WOW, like every other Blizzard game is extremley addictive, I meen thats how they design the games. StarCraft is in the genus book of record for biggest online fanbase [true fact, buy a book and see for your self.] WoW will probably NEVER die. Well, I shouldnt say never, i meen Im sure D2 and StarCraft are in the stages of death, but look how far they'v come, SC came out in like .. wat 96? d2 97? still having ALOT of players online at all times, just imagine WoW, where blizard have learned from ther mistakes to perfect a game that is just fun. However I havent played it lol, but every person I talk to says they love it.
** QUESTION FOR WOW'ERS **
Does WoW have the same system as GuildWarz were you can go on team-raids 24/7? Like I remember on the beta test w/ GuildWarz, you go into pvp area and you auto-assign teams and then you just play another random team to see who wins, < ----- GREAT CONCEPT .. makes it like a MMO, but as a deathmatch - like game as well, were you can go on guild raids at any time, only its not exactly your raid..
reason why I ask is cuz this kid I talk to every day explains stuff like that to me, but w/e lol
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Not realy,WOW has 15% of the market,EQ & EQ 2 have 10%,and Lineage & Lineage 2 have around 40%.All of these games will continue.
Not realy,WOW has 15% of the market,EQ & EQ 2 have 10%,and Lineage & Lineage 2 have around 40%.All of these games will continue.
Let's just put it this way, WoW will sweep NA and Europe and maybe some of Asia. However, L2 will predominantly get subcribers from Asia. As for EQ2, i think it'll get the smallest cake amongst the 3 mmorpg.
Lineage2- this MMORPG seems to have great potential. Graphics are stunning, almost every medium sized clan is "kwown" within the server because of the politics in this game (war, alliance, player owned castles/towns, castle sieges). Lineage2 has a great community (great as in, people will know you, friend or foe). Bots aren't as "rampant" as people exaggerate them to be, hardly affects your lvling. Gameplay possibilities are endless but it all depends on how the player plays the game (might be intimidating for the new MMORPGers out there). One bad thing about this game is, the grind, best to grind in an evenly balanced group. This game could completely change face within 1-2 years because of the many free chronicles expansions it will have. up to C9? (dunno) but each patch will change the game drastically. This game's got potential. If you hunger for "fame" this game is for you (but you need ALOOOT of time).
EQ2- this MMORPG seemed like it spent 99% of their money on graphics with the old EQ play style, not sure if the "new generation" of MMORPGers will be interested for long. Gameplay depends on how the player plays it also.
WoW - will survive, this MMORPG seems to have an up to date play style with creative features. However, sometimes the player can feel like he's playing a single player game "alongside" many many people. Also there's the problem of people becoming quest zombies... doing quests over and over again. Guilds are so many and so vast, it seems very commonplace and boring. Graphics could use a tune up... This game is very user friendly.
You have just made yourself look like the most idiotic fool ever.
For Lineage 1, there are over 40 servers alone for Taiwan, and that's smaller than what Korea has, think about it.
For Lineage 2, there are 9 servers in NA, there are at least 40 servers in Taiwan, and probably over 80 servers in Korea, then there's Japan and China left. Do the math yourself please.
I'm willing to bet that you haven't even seen 1/1000000 of what Lineage 1 is like, and barely played, if at all, Lineage 2.
By the way, I've heard they already have around 13 Chronicles planned. They're gonna continue until...umm... someday when there are no more subscribers left?
Back on topic, ALL 3 WILL SURVIVE FOR YEARS TO COME.
Now this is what I think:
1. Everquest 2 - Last the shortest amount of time
2. WoW - Middle
3. Lineage 2 - Last the longest amount of time
I am not a Lineage 2 fanboy, nor a fanboy of any of these games. You just have to face the truth sometimes, and the truth is, Lineage 2 is rocking the MMORPG market (worldwide).
people think the games that do well in the US, is equivalent to the popularity of certain games in the world...
USA does not equal to world.
Lineage 1 i would have to say is the best. I did not like WoW because the PvP sucked allot when u died u did not loose exp which is really dumb it makes it harder, and u cannot attack anyone u want like when someone attacks your monster if there in the same alliance or horde u cant which is really dumb Lineage blow WoW away