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Everquest II, WoW or Guildwars?
BennyE
Member Posts: 7
Hi there,
I plans to play Guildwars when it gets to the stores, but I'm worried that I will regret it, so I would like to hear some oppinons about wich one you think is the best, Everquest II, WoW or Guildwars?
Please write back 
Thanks for reading 
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It's like asking "what car should I get?"; everyone will answer their favorite brand. It really depends what kind of mmorpg you're looking for. Now, I havent played any of the games you mention but I think I get the general idea of them, specially EQ2 since Im an old EQ player.
Basically, WoW is good if youre new to mmorpgs and/or like PvP. Some veteran mmorpg players says its too easy and that you lvl too fast. Cartonish graphics...I dont like it but maybe you do
EQ2 is all about fighting monsters (PvE). It got a more realistic graphic and is more complex and slow paced compared to WoW...crafting system comes to mind. I would bet my money on EQ2 but then again, Im biased.
Well Guildwars seems better because I don't have to pay a monthly fee so I think I choose that then, but I dont got anyting to do for about one month and 22 days
But please tell me your ideas wich one YOU think is the best.
Apples, Manderines or Bananas
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what you mean by you don't have to pay every month for gw? so you just pay one time and that's it?
If you're into mostly PvE, EQ2 is probably the best choice, but i haven't tried it, so I don't know
Guild Wars is absolutely awesome for its PvP, so if that's what you are looking for, go Guild Wars. PvE in GW is also good, but you can only go to level 20 so it won't last as long as the others.
Personally I'd choose Guild Wars
Also check out Dark & Light, if they can keep their promises it will be almost revolutionary.
And yes, Guild Wars has no monthly fee, one time and that's it. They will release expansions though, but buying them is entirely optional (you will still be able to play without it, with people that has it)
Do you mean that in GW I only can get level 20 and then its stop? So I can't get better then level 20?!
If so, that sucks
Here's my point of view for wow and guild wars (haven't played eq2).
wow is a completely solid mmorpg. BUT IT IS OLD! I mean, there's nothing new and inovative, everything's like in old mmorpgs, pvp, nonpvp, making items and stuff. There's not a single thing that would make it new and fresh so that it would be different. It something like that does exist, bliz sure keeps it well hidden.
although wow is made on a well knows series, the warcraft, it dissapointed me in some views. Not only that it doesn't offer new things (which I don't mind actually that much) it has too little classes in my opinion. 8 classes are an ok number but when you take into mind that there's 1 special class per faction and that races don't support every class the choice you have to make isn't that big. So you round at about 5 classes per one race. For instance, you chose a tauren (he's horde so you can't take paladin which is only alliance and only human/dwarf so even the whole alliance can't use him), and you'll be only able to chose form 4 classes which is kind of ridiculous. And plus, it doesn't differ at all if you're an orc or tauren shaman. Blizzard should've put some racial bonuses and flaws for each class which would make classes different for each race.
I don't mind the graphics some ppl disslike because they are cartoonish. It's just the type of flavour bliz wanted and I like that. The whole wacraft series are like that. Infact, that graphics, plus their website info about the game give wow , in my opinion , the best fantasy flavour out of all mmorpg online atm. And they still are on of the best out there wether they're cartoonish or not. Only thing I can complain about concerning graphics is the night and day. I mean, the night falls and you still see like in the daylight. Even the road is as lightened up as during the day (unless you're in a forest, the night there is alright thank god). And in the deserts, where the sun should be the brightest, your back gets darker as if some shadow was upon it (what friking shadow??) if you're turned away from the sun. Very illogical and ugly to see.
And another thing... those quests. I just find them SO TIDIOUS! I mean, one thing is to provide with quests that will be fun and stuff like that but there are quests on every single corner and every time I meet someone he's doin a freakin quest and not just exploring or lvling or anything like that. It's not so bad but to me, it's so damn repulsive. I bet that each playes will almost always have 1 quest active durin his WHOLE time in wow universe and every time he logs in he'll be thinking how to do it or where to find a new one, which takes you off the whole horde vs alliance theme of wow.
All in all i DO like wow and I find it one of the best mmorpg's even just from looking at their screenshots, articles and alike. Just the fact that wow is a warcraft based game hold me on to it but if guildwars is as good as it looks and doesn't even require monthly fees, I don't know if that'll be enough.
Guild Wars are ok but they don't give the fantasy flavour wow does from their website. I don't even notice that ex blizzard ppl made it. And plus it has some idiotic things in it which I read. Like, you can "teleport" to the last safe place (town, outpost) you've been to. I mean, wtf's up with that? And like when you recieve your own copy of a territory your quest is. Wtf's up with that as well? ... But I guess I'll have to try the game to be sure...
Conclusion: from just reading websites of mmorpg's and playing some of them, I've got the impression that wow provides the best fantasy flavour and simpleness some ppl might like. It also has the smallest number of obvious illogicalities in game (like that teleporting thing which will be featured in gw).
So, on your question I answer wow since I didn't play eq2 (but I doubt it can even be compred to wow) and I observe guild wars with great doubt.
because gw isn't really a mmorpg
Banzai!
no, its genius.
levelling isnt fun - playing the game is. GW is designed to be a questing and PvP game, for good PvP it is essential that a player's win rate is based on thier skill rather than killing some npc 'giant rat' (or whatever) 500,000,000 times.
The lvl 20 cap is also the reason why you wont have to buy the planned expansions, from what i gather they are more aimed at progressing the storyline via more quests.
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PvE in general is pretty lame, if you think long and hard about it. You are spending your time beating a severely gimped AI that would lose to a well trained monkey. Best not to think too long and hard why you are wasting time playing games in general actually...
I'm planing to do the same, Guildwars is the perfect game for casual players.
On the other hand if you plan to play hardcore, join guilds, big raids and such, then I'd suggest you play WoW or EQ2.
Guild wars is good as a game u play every once in a while, since there is no monthly fee anyways, u can just keep it for when u are bored.
Play them all, people are too narrowminded with this "I ONLY CAN PLAY ONE" nonsense.
so what is it then? just a fantasy version of CS with a little leveling on the side?
It's just that they don't call it a mmorpg but what can it be beside that? Massive world, many players play at the same time... can't be anything except mmorpg.
yes, you only buy the game box at the store, one time fee. it is basically like Diablo 2 with a few more options, and good equipment it slightly harder to get. i played it during the E3 event (twice), it is an ok game, not the best, but not the worst. the graphics could have been better imo, and the PvP was pretty lame also. it is a bit linear in the way the mission work, plus they are all instanced. the good things are, its pretty fast paced, you can hire henchmen to do missions with you (if you like to solo), and most of the MOBs have an original look to them.
You actually hit the spot right on without knowing it - If you see a MMORPG as a game with a massive world (etc), GW isn't a MMORPG by your own standards. The world isn't really massive cause the fighting occurs in instanced zones. I'm not saying that it's bad, but instancing kinda corrupts the idea of the freedom and social interacting in an average MMORPG for a lot of people.
As for the OPs question, I played EQ II and played the tryout weekends (or whatever they were called) of GW. GW is indeed a game you can play very casually, the 'free' part is kind of false though (as mentioned earlier). At some point you run out of content, which indirectly forces you to buy the expensions. So, instead of taking your money from you each month in small steps, GW requires the players to update or get stuck on same ol' same ol' content.
EQ II was good while I played it. At some point (for me as a crafter/adventurer at least) the crafting, which was faulty, became boring. The adventuring became somehwat of a grind as well, and while the quests were abundant at the lower levels, the higher I got, the lesser quests I could find. I played EQ II from launch till half january, and at that point I decided to take a 'break' but keep an eye on upcoming patchnotes. The game is fun, and most likely I will go back as soon as the patchnotes (and forums) convince me of the appearance and good implementation of new content, etc.
WoW just isn't my thing. I played around a bit with a friends account, but, allthough the game isn't bad at all, it was just too darn easy.
Just my 2c.
EQ2 if you are into PvE
Guild Wars if you want some serious PvP action
WoW falls short on both of them as it tries to please everyone and fails.
You actually hit the spot right on without knowing it - If you see a MMORPG as a game with a massive world (etc), GW isn't a MMORPG by your own standards. The world isn't really massive cause the fighting occurs in instanced zones. I'm not saying that it's bad, but instancing kinda corrupts the idea of the freedom and social interacting in an average MMORPG for a lot of people.
As for the OPs question, I played EQ II and played the tryout weekends (or whatever they were called) of GW. GW is indeed a game you can play very casually, the 'free' part is kind of false though (as mentioned earlier). At some point you run out of content, which indirectly forces you to buy the expensions. So, instead of taking your money from you each month in small steps, GW requires the players to update or get stuck on same ol' same ol' content.
EQ II was good while I played it. At some point (for me as a crafter/adventurer at least) the crafting, which was faulty, became boring. The adventuring became somehwat of a grind as well, and while the quests were abundant at the lower levels, the higher I got, the lesser quests I could find. I played EQ II from launch till half january, and at that point I decided to take a 'break' but keep an eye on upcoming patchnotes. The game is fun, and most likely I will go back as soon as the patchnotes (and forums) convince me of the appearance and good implementation of new content, etc.
WoW just isn't my thing. I played around a bit with a friends account, but, allthough the game isn't bad at all, it was just too darn easy.
Just my 2c.
You say guild wars is not technically free to play, at least it will be a better buy then the POS game known as World of Warcraft where we paid 30 extra dollars (3 months after release as we wasted our free month) for very little content updates on top of the price of the game. Where the game wasn't even ready to go live with broken and incomplete high end content, lots of time we sit in front of a waiting line to even log into the game, that's when the servers are up.
Actually Guild Wars is not a MMORPG.It is a CORPG - Competitive Oriented RPG.As you can see from its name, is PvP oriented.Yes there is a PvE - the instances, but you cant meet anybody in these instances, except your party and monsters.Wich is by my opinion, big minus.You can meet some one only in town, Guild Battle ot in the Arena...
Also this "no mounthly fee" stuff sounds to me like Magic The Gathering.In theory you can play the game with only one deck, but will you be as concurent as oders if you don't buy more decs?The same thing will be with the GW expansions...
Also about the level cao.I say: make the game level based or not level based.Guild wars is non of them.Also someone said that leveling is not fun... you have just said that all RPGs suck.
And the last thing about GW - in this game the collectioner's passion is missing.All items in the game is different, but with the same power... so there is no "wow I found a great item" element.
Now you may think that I dislike GW, no your wrong
, I have played the open beta during novebmer, and I liked the game - its great game 
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About WoW - I haven't played it yet, but I realy think that this cartoon style sux.
And last words from me: you may also consider Lineage 2.It has Castle Sieges and realistic graphics like GW, freedom and items collecting and leveling like WoW.
most of them do...
i'd like someone to explain to me what is meant to be fun about killing npc's over and over and over purely for the sake of xp. Killing npc's to complete a quest is questing, which is (usually) fun.
What would you do if it was a 'normal' style game? talk to these people? trade with them? fight them? all that can be done in towns, and the benefits are that there is no kill stealing, no ganking, reduced server costs, choice of who you play with. GW is a very consensual game, it doesnt force you to group with people you dont want to.
that's because 'great' items would unbalance PvP, where player skill is meant to determine the outcome, not simply playing 24/7 to get the grand sword of uberness and armour of invincibilty (though i have a nice 10-19 dmg lightning wand, a +8 energy item and some very cool hydromancer armour w/ red dye)
GW is not EQ2. Thats a very good thing.
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PvE in general is pretty lame, if you think long and hard about it. You are spending your time beating a severely gimped AI that would lose to a well trained monkey. Best not to think too long and hard why you are wasting time playing games in general actually...
"Killing npc's to complete a quest is questing, which is (usually) fun"
Why do you complete quests?For the reward, wich is XP, and some time XP + Items
.So questing equals leveling.And that is what I cal leveling - completing quests.Yes some times you must just go mindless killing around to levelup, but thats not all the time, and yes its kinda boring.
"that's because 'great' items would unbalance PvP"
I absolutely agree with you, but I still love finding nice fancy items, and working out a genious skill/item combos
.Yes it may ruin the good PvP... but... I guess we can't have them both.
"What would you do if it was a 'normal' style game? talk to these people? trade with them? fight them?"
Yes, I will fight them, trade with them and talk with them.Its all about freedom... Its like the difference between diablo and WoW.In diablo you must create ot join someones game, in order to trade/talk/fight with him.In WoW you must only meet him.
Hmm... I think I will choose Guild Wars, but does anyone knows how do I get rich in the game exept for hunting?
And the thing I like the best in WoW is that you can ride on ponnys and stuff, does anyone knows if thats going to be able at Guild Wars to?
Please reply
Ive playe both EQII and WoW, ive only played GW on there trail day so i cant really make an informed oppinion.
I prefere WoW to EQ2, i cant rate GW.
EQ2 graphics although "higher rez" are far less attractive than WoW.
I found the death penalty in EQ2 anoying and frustrating.
WoW death penalty is far more forgiving while still making you wish to avoid death.
EQ2 is very slow leveling, I can only afford a couple of hours aday. WoW gives me a hope I may reach a high level one day. EQ2 makes me want to go do something else, especailly if i get killed.
GW from my very short experiance, felt like diablo. Thats about all I can say on it as I only played it for a couple of hours.
These are of course my own personal views.
so you call completing quests levelling....rather than questing...hmmm....and the only reason you do quests is not because they are fun, or interesting, but because you get some xp at the end....if they didnt have any xp (or items) at the end would you still do them? If not, then I am sure glad i'm not playing that RPG...
there sure are some strange people around....
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PvE in general is pretty lame, if you think long and hard about it. You are spending your time beating a severely gimped AI that would lose to a well trained monkey. Best not to think too long and hard why you are wasting time playing games in general actually...