dude u can live happy without girls during school. i prefer to date in the summer. just cus that way i dont fuck up my grades, over a breakup or something like that. so im not actively dating anyone right now.
but dont take too seriously into anything before ur twenty. so i think ur taking this all too seriously and so is she.
DO NOT BE LIKE MY DUMBASS FUKTARDED FRIEND. who at age 13 had his marriage planned and hes 16 now and the plans are still on, he is closing options before they exist. but i gotta admit a teen relationship, lasting from age 12-16 is rare. but it gets even more retarded, he thinks there in love where i told him hes too young too know. and she lives in california and he lives with me in new mexico, so he never goes to any of the dances, never goes to clubs, and is miserable and sits their playing games on his computer while im at parties and stuff. and he thinks his girlfriend is faithfull where i here she may or may not be.
the point is dont take a relationship too seriously at a young age,
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you''re one of the 2% who hasn''t, copy & paste this in your signature.
My friend's dad who is a role model for me told me one wise tidbit of information. He said that everyone of his high school buddies that married their high school sweethearts has gotten divorced and I can understand why. People [women] still need time to experiment with other loves. If they stick with one man throughout their lives, meaning one boyfriend/girlfriend and one wife/husband, they will get - sorry to say - bored.
Plus, who cares about your 15 year old love? I mean really, how long do Freshmen couples last? 2-3 weeks? I have had 5 girlfriends since I started dating as a freshmen and nothing has gone well. I ended up with 1 stalker, 3 girls who just hate my guts, and 1 girl who keeps on wanted me so she can make her bofriend jealous. I am no boy-toy.
My last relationship ended 2 months ago after my old girlfriend steped too far into my life. She would drive to my house with a bunch of friends and they would usually make a gallon of margaritas. I don't drink so I thought that was pretty uncomfortable. The sad part is that she broke up with me after I told her that I did not want to go to a hyped up mixer at my school. I have come to the decision to stop relationships until I develope a good friend base in college. It is just not worth it.
"Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"
"When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman
Please man. I bet she dosen't even know the meaning of the word love....it has too deep of a meaning. The only love you should be getting is from you family man.
Now me, I know my Ex is actually in love me and I know shes a good girl. She always tell me that I make her feel speicial and happy. I got great wisdom, what can I say. It would be a long story for me to explain to u guys but the post is that the would "love" shouldn't be abused like that.
Just a little backround information on my relationship so you guys can get a grasp of what i'm going off of here.
July 15th, 2005 will mark a two year milestone in the relationship I share with my fiance, Lisa. Now, at first when her had first met it was over the internet (through mutual friends, we live in the same city). We had talked for about a month on AIM before her and I had decided to step forward and meet each other. when her and I first met I found out she had a boyfriend but that didnt stop her and i from seeing each other every weekend when her boyfriend was at work. After about 9 months of this we started dating.
it was about 8 months into the relationship when her and I had stated that we loved each other, and it was very odd how it came about. She was feeling ill and laying on the couch, so i just sat next to her with my head by her belly, just looking at her looking at me. I love the way it played out.
Now keep in mind, throughout all of this...there have been good and extreme bad times. Most of those bad times had to do with her past, and it bothered me quite a bit but I was able to overcome them with time.
So, all I can tell you is this. If your able to look at the gravest possibilities of what can happen, and still feel as you had when you two first started dating then I would say stick it out. But if she abuses you, and doesnt resolve anything, then I would say even though you love her. have enough respect for yourself and end it man.
But, dont take this as advice, take what you will and learn from it.
KillerTwinkie - That one guy who used to mod mmorpg.com's forums.
Originally posted by Cmkslivt Since 1 week im going out with my girlfriend... she told me that she love me... then told me that she love me for live. But there is something im suspecting... Maybe im crazy but i dont think so. She always hug other guys and at school i rarely see her ( i dont know why she dont want )...Thats pissing me off... Today i've know of 2 of her friend think im ugly but my Gf told them she love me because i respect her and im not like other guys ( I know how to really love and not always sex ). I saw her only once today. Now i just called her for talking and she wasnt even listening. I was telling her that i was searching her in school with some friend and i didnt find her... She answered that: I have a life and im all around just try to find me... Im not crazy i think.. she just dont love me anymore i think. I dont know what to do... i love her and suspecting alot. Some friend told me that she like another guy but my gf say no its only you since i go out with you. Anyone can help me before i kill the next guy who pass next to me ? Oh and sorry for my bad english.
Dude, I'm just going to tell it like it is..........
ENJOY the moment! BTW, there will be TONS of other girls later on, after you finnish school, get a career job, and become a full grown man. "Girls"? you'll be rolling with real women! Don't let your current situation stress you. Enjoy whatever times, memories, you have with your current girl (are you in High School? How old are you? How old is she?).
Make sure you DON'T get her pregnant! Use safe sex measures, you have a lot of life to live before being stuck providing for a kid and/or healing from the negative emotions of not having a kid. Don't take it seriously if she says "I love you!" or "I don't love you!". Are you planning on marrying her right now? Are you planning on spending the rest of your life with her? How likely will this happen? Just enjoy the moments and memories with her, and go after your education, studying, (sounds corny, but it is where success starts, and getting real women starts!).
Originally posted by Cmkslivt Since 1 week im going out with my girlfriend... she told me that she love me... then told me that she love me for live. But there is something im suspecting... Maybe im crazy but i dont think so. She always hug other guys and at school i rarely see her ( i dont know why she dont want )...Thats pissing me off... Today i've know of 2 of her friend think im ugly but my Gf told them she love me because i respect her and im not like other guys ( I know how to really love and not always sex ). I saw her only once today. Now i just called her for talking and she wasnt even listening. I was telling her that i was searching her in school with some friend and i didnt find her... She answered that: I have a life and im all around just try to find me... Im not crazy i think.. she just dont love me anymore i think. I dont know what to do... i love her and suspecting alot. Some friend told me that she like another guy but my gf say no its only you since i go out with you. Anyone can help me before i kill the next guy who pass next to me ? Oh and sorry for my bad english.
Dude, I'm just going to tell it like it is..........
ENJOY the moment! BTW, there will be TONS of other girls later on, after you finnish school, get a career job, and become a full grown man. "Girls"? you'll be rolling with real women! Don't let your current situation stress you. Enjoy whatever times, memories, you have with your current girl (are you in High School? How old are you? How old is she?).
Make sure you DON'T get her pregnant! Use safe sex measures, you have a lot of life to live before being stuck providing for a kid and/or healing from the negative emotions of not having a kid. Don't take it seriously if she says "I love you!" or "I don't love you!". Are you planning on marrying her right now? Are you planning on spending the rest of your life with her? How likely will this happen? Just enjoy the moments and memories with her, and go after your education, studying, (sounds corny, but it is where success starts, and getting real women starts!).
You really don't need sex, but if you Konsume(Using that Mortal Kombat term) to that then use safe measures. BTW, to girls, hugs really don't mean nothing. Just a form of greeting. Nothing really to get jelious of....unless there more than normal hugs
Thx alot guys about helping me heh lol. Wednesday or friday ( my birthday) i will maybe dump her.. i will see whats gonna happen and talk with her. Oh and i didnt see she go swim sometime in a interior pool. Everytime she need to attract guys like: " he punched me last time i need to go regret him " and me who's saying to her " Just stop... Let them do because if you continue they will too " and she try to escape my arm and go... And me too my relation are always lasting 1 week after... Only 1 in my life stayed 2 months.. but i was doing nothing to her in school and during weekends she was busy.... Hope i will soon meet the good girl who will love me as everyone should... Its a question of time i know
Originally posted by Cmkslivt Thx alot guys about helping me heh lol. Wednesday or friday ( my birthday) i will maybe dump her.. i will see whats gonna happen and talk with her. Oh and i didnt see she go swim sometime in a interior pool. Everytime she need to attract guys like: " he punched me last time i need to go regret him " and me who's saying to her " Just stop... Let them do because if you continue they will too " and she try to escape my arm and go... And me too my relation are always lasting 1 week after... Only 1 in my life stayed 2 months.. but i was doing nothing to her in school and during weekends she was busy.... Hope i will soon meet the good girl who will love me as everyone should... Its a question of time i know
Quit searching for love man, go have fun! Go shoot some pool, play basketball or football. Let the women notice you. Just do what you want, i'm going to assume your still quite young... Girls are a dime a dozen, don't waste your childhood worrying about what their doing, do something meaningful with your time. My bestfriend, and myself took on a philosophy somewhat like that, and when we were out of highschool we were well on our way to something much more meaningful than some girls. I had won a state championship with the Lincoln Trojans football team. He had already become Sysco (spelling) certified, and was well on his way to becoming a game designer. We both had our girls but we took them half heartedly b/c we knew we had the rest of our lives to find someone to live for. Now i'm almost 20 and hes 21... He currently works for blizzard and i'm a guidance councilor at my old highschool (for now, when all is said and done I want to become a family therapist). Just ask yourself, are 100 more girls like this one worth a early headstart on life? If you answered no, go do what you really want to do and leave ur hormones behind.
From a girls perspective: She is just messing with you. She is 14 and just wants drama in her life. Forget her! Who needs a monogamous relationship when they are still in school anyways???
The Specials come to mind reading this thread: Too Much Too Young.
Lots of people have posted good advice. Nice one, folks! For any future affadavit, I really enjoy reading Vampyr's posts.
Let's set the record straight - feel free to correct me if I am wrong: 1. You're both in your teens 2. You've been going out for around roughly a week 3. You're both throwing around the word, "love"
It's a word that you're using - not a feeling. If it is a feeling it's a conceptual thang i.e. the idea of being in love, rather than feeling that you're in love. KillerTwinkie expressed it perfectly: love doesn't just drop in your lap, it is something to work for and to be shared. It grows on you with age. Sorry to say, but this sounds like a typical teen romance - no more no less. I was exactly the same, except a few years older than you (but clueless).
I personally think that 'love' has been demeaned because it's become grubby, plastic, vacuous and used. It's just a word bereft of any real meaning. Unless words are backed by action then they're just words. Obviously, I'm making sweeping generalizations but it sounds like infatuation - not love.
Now, your girlfriend hugging other boys. If it's a friendly thing and she is tactile, then don't sweat it. But this is a teen thang we're talking about, and given that her friends dislike you, I don't think you're relationship is going to be a long-lived one. Sounds like she's like any other teen: gives undue weight to peer pressure i.e. validation from her friends on who she should date, what she should wear, etc.
Picking up on Vampyr's point, why rush headfirst into a relationship? At your age, you ought to be dating. Heck! At my age - 31 - I love the concept of dating. There is absolutely no way I would EVER get into a relationship with anyone right off the bat!
Also, you appear to have a trust issue due to her actions (and that of her friends) not inspiring you with confidence. Unless this is resolved at the root, it will always be an issue.
My 0.02c and some chump change for the little it is worth, is to put some distance between this girl and your relationship and try to take a relaxed approach about the whole dating thing. Don't expect a loving relationship from everyone you meet, take a deep breathe, take your time and try to enjoy yourself first without trying to force a situation that doesn't exist. Relationships should be natural, organic things.
Oh kay, you may be mature for your age and genuinely desire a relationship. That's cool. But you need to choose your prospective partner with a great deal of care - not everyone you will meet will want the same thing. Also, anyone who tells you that they "love" you after a week, is too young, or emotionally immature enough to relize just what love is.
Personally, it has always given me a bad case of indegestion - but a quick thump to the back and it disappears, allowing me to concentrate on that blonde hottie with the short skirt :P
In all seriousness, relax, take your time and try and give dating a shout.
Wishing you all the best.
Regards, Riotgirl
"If you think I'm plucky and scrappy and all I need is love, you're in way over your head. I don't have a heart of gold or get nice. There are a lot nicer people coming up. We call them losers."
Originally posted by Riotgirl Let's set the record straight - feel free to correct me if I am wrong: 1. You're both in your teens 2. You've been going out for around roughly a week 3. You're both throwing around the word, "love" It's a word that you're using - not a feeling. If it is a feeling it's a conceptual thang i.e. the idea of being in love, rather than feeling that you're in love. KillerTwinkie expressed it perfectly: love doesn't just drop in your lap, it is something to work for and to be shared. It grows on you with age. Sorry to say, but this sounds like a typical teen romance - no more no less. I was exactly the same, except a few years older than you (but clueless). I personally think that 'love' has been demeaned because it's become grubby, plastic, vacuous and used. It's just a word bereft of any real meaning. Unless words are backed by action then they're just words. Obviously, I'm making sweeping generalizations but it sounds like infatuation - not love.
Originally posted by Cmkslivt Since 1 week im going out with my girlfriend... she told me that she love me... then told me that she love me for live. But there is something im suspecting... Maybe im crazy but i dont think so. She always hug other guys and at school i rarely see her ( i dont know why she dont want )...Thats pissing me off... Today i've know of 2 of her friend think im ugly but my Gf told them she love me because i respect her and im not like other guys ( I know how to really love and not always sex ). I saw her only once today. Now i just called her for talking and she wasnt even listening. I was telling her that i was searching her in school with some friend and i didnt find her... She answered that: I have a life and im all around just try to find me... Im not crazy i think.. she just dont love me anymore i think. I dont know what to do... i love her and suspecting alot. Some friend told me that she like another guy but my gf say no its only you since i go out with you. Anyone can help me before i kill the next guy who pass next to me ? Oh and sorry for my bad english.
Someone might've said something in one of the other posts but, if you try to figure out whats going on in a girl's head STOP RIGHT THERE! IF you don't you're in for one helluva headache.
Here some news: She called me around 5pm telling me she was sorry to never be there for me in school... She say its because im busy with my friends etc... I said to her.. Imagine you are me, try to feel how i am... Maybe you will understand. Then she have got to go... Just now i chatted with her with msn and asked me questions like: What would you do if it pass 1 month and we are still loving each other? What would you do if i was unsure about loving you? What would you do if i break? I only answered: Its not a question about time... its a question about loving each other, its not a race. If you are unsure about loving me i can always give you a break to think about it... all i can say i love you and there is no guy as me in the world... And i predicted it it would happend. If you break i cant do anything its your choice... Then she said i know know what to do i will go in a "foyer" ( somekind prison for people when parents cant control them anymore or are removed from their house ) because its too hard for her... So i told her if you go there you will lose everything even me and everything is restricted. You cant go out when you want,you cant eat when you want, you need to respect everyone or you go in a Special center for 1 day( the prison.. ). She try to get the easiest way to escape obstacle of the life and dont want to understand. Right now she just quitted msn and just before she tried to piss me off... but i've know it was to get her a reason for i stop loving her.
ok I get warned for talking about body parts and elemet just cursed and seriously made fun of a memeber.... you know when some one tells you not to do something and you do really really want to do it....
anyways... look dude if you still want to be with her after she treats you like shit all you want is to go into the sack... understandable... teens and horny... so if you truely liked her you would make sure it changes or leave... it sounds as thoguh she the hot girl in school and you just want some... you a good kid... gullbile but good move on... other trees in the forest.. lol
el come now calm down... we all friends here... he might be loser but no need to yell it out... or type loudly lol.... fine we shall take your opnion into consideration.... but dont make a scene...
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dude u can live happy without girls during school. i prefer to date in the summer. just cus that way i dont fuck up my grades, over a breakup or something like that. so im not actively dating anyone right now.
but dont take too seriously into anything before ur twenty. so i think ur taking this all too seriously and so is she.
DO NOT BE LIKE MY DUMBASS FUKTARDED FRIEND. who at age 13 had his marriage planned and hes 16 now and the plans are still on, he is closing options before they exist. but i gotta admit a teen relationship, lasting from age 12-16 is rare. but it gets even more retarded, he thinks there in love where i told him hes too young too know. and she lives in california and he lives with me in new mexico, so he never goes to any of the dances, never goes to clubs, and is miserable and sits their playing games on his computer while im at parties and stuff. and he thinks his girlfriend is faithfull where i here she may or may not be.
the point is dont take a relationship too seriously at a young age,
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you''re one of the 2% who hasn''t, copy & paste this in your signature.
But...but...what about your computer? I mean, if you drop your computer for a newer version, sure, but for a meatbag?
Humans are walking diseases, birdies are clean compare to us! Go away, take your distance, leave them alone and play more on your computer!
- "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you''re one of the 2% who hasn''t, copy & paste this in your signature.
My friend's dad who is a role model for me told me one wise tidbit of information. He said that everyone of his high school buddies that married their high school sweethearts has gotten divorced and I can understand why. People [women] still need time to experiment with other loves. If they stick with one man throughout their lives, meaning one boyfriend/girlfriend and one wife/husband, they will get - sorry to say - bored.
Plus, who cares about your 15 year old love? I mean really, how long do Freshmen couples last? 2-3 weeks? I have had 5 girlfriends since I started dating as a freshmen and nothing has gone well. I ended up with 1 stalker, 3 girls who just hate my guts, and 1 girl who keeps on wanted me so she can make her bofriend jealous. I am no boy-toy.
My last relationship ended 2 months ago after my old girlfriend steped too far into my life. She would drive to my house with a bunch of friends and they would usually make a gallon of margaritas. I don't drink so I thought that was pretty uncomfortable. The sad part is that she broke up with me after I told her that I did not want to go to a hyped up mixer at my school. I have come to the decision to stop relationships until I develope a good friend base in college. It is just not worth it.
"Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"
"When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman
ive dated a girl for a couple days short of a year
not saying that i was happy the whole time but i did it
My longest is 1 month and 1 week, in sixth grade
But I have had probly 30 since then, which all lasted for around 1 week.
Please man. I bet she dosen't even know the meaning of the word love....it has too deep of a meaning. The only love you should be getting is from you family man.
Now me, I know my Ex is actually in love me and I know shes a good girl. She always tell me that I make her feel speicial and happy. I got great wisdom, what can I say.
It would be a long story for me to explain to u guys but the post is that the would "love" shouldn't be abused like that.
Cmkslivt, dump her.
-In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08-
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July 15th, 2005 will mark a two year milestone in the relationship I share with my fiance, Lisa. Now, at first when her had first met it was over the internet (through mutual friends, we live in the same city). We had talked for about a month on AIM before her and I had decided to step forward and meet each other. when her and I first met I found out she had a boyfriend but that didnt stop her and i from seeing each other every weekend when her boyfriend was at work. After about 9 months of this we started dating.
it was about 8 months into the relationship when her and I had stated that we loved each other, and it was very odd how it came about. She was feeling ill and laying on the couch, so i just sat next to her with my head by her belly, just looking at her looking at me. I love the way it played out.
Now keep in mind, throughout all of this...there have been good and extreme bad times. Most of those bad times had to do with her past, and it bothered me quite a bit but I was able to overcome them with time.
So, all I can tell you is this. If your able to look at the gravest possibilities of what can happen, and still feel as you had when you two first started dating then I would say stick it out. But if she abuses you, and doesnt resolve anything, then I would say even though you love her. have enough respect for yourself and end it man.
But, dont take this as advice, take what you will and learn from it.
KillerTwinkie - That one guy who used to mod mmorpg.com's forums.
Dude, I'm just going to tell it like it is..........
ENJOY the moment! BTW, there will be TONS of other girls later on, after you finnish school, get a career job, and become a full grown man. "Girls"? you'll be rolling with real women! Don't let your current situation stress you. Enjoy whatever times, memories, you have with your current girl (are you in High School? How old are you? How old is she?).
Make sure you DON'T get her pregnant! Use safe sex measures, you have a lot of life to live before being stuck providing for a kid and/or healing from the negative emotions of not having a kid. Don't take it seriously if she says "I love you!" or "I don't love you!". Are you planning on marrying her right now? Are you planning on spending the rest of your life with her? How likely will this happen? Just enjoy the moments and memories with her, and go after your education, studying, (sounds corny, but it is where success starts, and getting real women starts!).
Dude, I'm just going to tell it like it is..........
ENJOY the moment! BTW, there will be TONS of other girls later on, after you finnish school, get a career job, and become a full grown man. "Girls"? you'll be rolling with real women! Don't let your current situation stress you. Enjoy whatever times, memories, you have with your current girl (are you in High School? How old are you? How old is she?).
Make sure you DON'T get her pregnant! Use safe sex measures, you have a lot of life to live before being stuck providing for a kid and/or healing from the negative emotions of not having a kid. Don't take it seriously if she says "I love you!" or "I don't love you!". Are you planning on marrying her right now? Are you planning on spending the rest of your life with her? How likely will this happen? Just enjoy the moments and memories with her, and go after your education, studying, (sounds corny, but it is where success starts, and getting real women starts!).
You really don't need sex, but if you Konsume(Using that Mortal Kombat term
-In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08-
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RISING DRAGOON ~AION US ONLINE LEGION for Elyos
If your looking for love advice, a mmorpg board might not be a good place to find it lol
The Specials come to mind reading this thread: Too Much Too Young.
Lots of people have posted good advice. Nice one, folks! For any future affadavit, I really enjoy reading Vampyr's posts.
Let's set the record straight - feel free to correct me if I am wrong:
1. You're both in your teens
2. You've been going out for around roughly a week
3. You're both throwing around the word, "love"
It's a word that you're using - not a feeling. If it is a feeling it's a conceptual thang i.e. the idea of being in love, rather than feeling that you're in love. KillerTwinkie expressed it perfectly: love doesn't just drop in your lap, it is something to work for and to be shared. It grows on you with age. Sorry to say, but this sounds like a typical teen romance - no more no less. I was exactly the same, except a few years older than you (but clueless).
I personally think that 'love' has been demeaned because it's become grubby, plastic, vacuous and used. It's just a word bereft of any real meaning. Unless words are backed by action then they're just words. Obviously, I'm making sweeping generalizations but it sounds like infatuation - not love.
Now, your girlfriend hugging other boys. If it's a friendly thing and she is tactile, then don't sweat it. But this is a teen thang we're talking about, and given that her friends dislike you, I don't think you're relationship is going to be a long-lived one. Sounds like she's like any other teen: gives undue weight to peer pressure i.e. validation from her friends on who she should date, what she should wear, etc.
Picking up on Vampyr's point, why rush headfirst into a relationship? At your age, you ought to be dating. Heck! At my age - 31 - I love the concept of dating. There is absolutely no way I would EVER get into a relationship with anyone right off the bat!
Also, you appear to have a trust issue due to her actions (and that of her friends) not inspiring you with confidence. Unless this is resolved at the root, it will always be an issue.
My 0.02c and some chump change for the little it is worth, is to put some distance between this girl and your relationship and try to take a relaxed approach about the whole dating thing. Don't expect a loving relationship from everyone you meet, take a deep breathe, take your time and try to enjoy yourself first without trying to force a situation that doesn't exist. Relationships should be natural, organic things.
Oh kay, you may be mature for your age and genuinely desire a relationship. That's cool. But you need to choose your prospective partner with a great deal of care - not everyone you will meet will want the same thing. Also, anyone who tells you that they "love" you after a week, is too young, or emotionally immature enough to relize just what love is.
Personally, it has always given me a bad case of indegestion - but a quick thump to the back and it disappears, allowing me to concentrate on that blonde hottie with the short skirt :P
In all seriousness, relax, take your time and try and give dating a shout.
Wishing you all the best.
Regards,
Riotgirl
"If you think I'm plucky and scrappy and all I need is love, you're in way over your head. I don't have a heart of gold or get nice. There are a lot nicer people coming up. We call them losers."
-In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08-
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yeah im going along reading good quality posts and this
cmon man whats your problem hes asking you for help and your calling him a loser???!!!
ok I get warned for talking about body parts and elemet just cursed and seriously made fun of a memeber.... you know when some one tells you not to do something and you do really really want to do it....
anyways... look dude if you still want to be with her after she treats you like shit all you want is to go into the sack... understandable... teens and horny... so if you truely liked her you would make sure it changes or leave... it sounds as thoguh she the hot girl in school and you just want some... you a good kid... gullbile but good move on... other trees in the forest.. lol
you know waht woyuld be really cool if elment was his girlfirned posting here.... I would laugh till I would pass out... ah...
CHILL ELEMENT
"Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"
"When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman
el come now calm down... we all friends here... he might be loser but no need to yell it out... or type loudly lol.... fine we shall take your opnion into consideration.... but dont make a scene...