Not really, I was hardly interested enough to keep track of anything. I saw it, decided it's not something I'd support at this point in time and moved on. I kinda hoped it'd be successfull, though, which is why I'm still checking out threads like this occasionally.
Nothing I read at the time, however, indicated that pre-ordering meant anything other than what I already said. They had a target date and the quoted announcement is perhaps unfortunately (though understandably) optimistic, but that's all. The game's worst mistake, most likely, was that it caught the attention of the crowd that assembled when Darkfall launched. I think it'll be smart for any indie company interested in future MMO development to steer clear of any game design decisions that might seem attractive to those people.
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All this arguing is moot. Fact is NG marketed the game in a way that made me think when I purchased it I would have early access and that shit acutally worked. I don't mind squashing a few bugs before a release but this is just strait bullshit. That is why no one plays , that is why no one "tests" we was conned into thinking we was coming into a half or more finished product and a few things needed worked out before the actual launch. Hell the whole game needs reworked and MADE. Cause as far as I am concerened all these so called features that are turned off just don't exsist at all.
I will be getting a refund here in the next month or so if they do not provide me with something playable. Its been almost 3 months now since I was promised a "prelude". Wiping the server every few days is not a prelude.
AllSeeing, I agree and this continually needs to be reminded at the Xsyon forums too. Many who have already sought refunding and posted the disappointing threads on the xsyon forum arent do so because someone wants the game to fail, but because most were hoping it would succeed.
Aside from the failed cheerleading rediculously supporting the Xsyon nonsense, the facts remain:
~ The pre-purchase was under the guise that the great deal of beta testing was done internally for a prolonged period of time prior to opening "pre-orders' for "prelude period".
~ No one pre-ordered with the intention that we would be "funding" a prolonged and unknown period of alpha testing, but early entry for a 4/15 prelude launch of full feature-rich content which has suddenly, since a bunch of "cash" influx from unsuspecting players, is now 4-months out as opposed to the origonal 4-weeks.
~ Pre-order people did not sign up to "Alpha Test" an incomplete product, as they were told that launch was 4/15 and pre-orders have early access prior to that date, not "alpha-testing" for a hopeful 8/15 launch.
~ Many people that did pre-order are waiting for Xsyon to get their sh&^ together, wondering what other smoke & mirrors are going to come next.
Most want Xsyon to succed, but dont like being taken advantage of, so it leads some to wonder if Jordi, the lead Xsyon dev, is ok with Xsyon being as much a grossly lackluster mmo accomplishment as Wurm or Roma Victor.
Just a note, i said in a post somewhere else here that Massively's reports on Xsyon have come from players emailing them about the game. Jordi has not sent any press releases to any company at any time and refuses to do so until things are on the up and up.
All the OP wants is to spread negativity. He did that in another thread already. If he doesn't like what he sees so far, he should either wait or move on.
OR, now here is real OMG moment coming....
He can exercise his right of free speech, even if that means saying how bad he hates the game...
Ya i know, its a crazy concept.....In China
I mean really, its one thing to disagree with someones point of view and offer your own points, but don't attack the fact that he even made his belief known.
I'm sick of people complaining that they expected a full-game by now.
You paid for beta access and will recieve your free months when the game actually starts. If the time you paid for isn't cycling yet, then you can't expect the game to be live, or even finished. Granted there seems to be lots of issues, but miscommunication is not one of them. You people just spent far too much time reading between the lines to figure out the obvious.
You preordered - and the game is not live yet. Complain when the free months from the preorder starts trickling away, then you'll have a right to. As it is now, you paid for something you know was going through a beta phase, and are just using what you paid already as an excuse for it to be gold *right now*.
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I'm sick of people complaining that they expected a full-game by now.
You paid for beta access and will recieve your free months when the game actually starts. If the time you paid for isn't cycling yet, then you can't expect the game to be live, or even finished. Granted there seems to be lots of issues, but miscommunication is not one of them. You people just spent far too much time reading between the lines to figure out the obvious.
You preordered - and the game is not live yet. Complain when the free months from the preorder starts trickling away, then you'll have a right to. As it is now, you paid for something you know was going through a beta phase, and are just using what you paid already as an excuse for it to be gold *right now*.
Gotta disagree with you there. The devs themself said on several occasions that there will be no beta, they are doing internal testing, and that preorders will basically be paying for access to The Prelude, which was supposed to simply be a pre-launch thing giving them a headstart to get things going before they open access to everyone else. There was not supposed to be any testing whatsoever involved, they were promised access to a fully functional game ahead of thos ethat didnt preorder. They also claimed all features listed (when we first got the feature list a few months ago) were either fully working, or at least 80% complete, specifically to avoid promising things, finding out its not going to work right / cant be done. and then not being able to deliver on their promises. But from what i hear/read theres a lot of stuff not in game thats supposed to be.
Im hopeful for Xsyon too, everything they promised sounds great, but as more time goes by it really does seem to just be turning into MO Part2.
I'm sick of people complaining that they expected a full-game by now.
You paid for beta access and will recieve your free months when the game actually starts. If the time you paid for isn't cycling yet, then you can't expect the game to be live, or even finished. Granted there seems to be lots of issues, but miscommunication is not one of them. You people just spent far too much time reading between the lines to figure out the obvious.
You preordered - and the game is not live yet. Complain when the free months from the preorder starts trickling away, then you'll have a right to. As it is now, you paid for something you know was going through a beta phase, and are just using what you paid already as an excuse for it to be gold *right now*.
Gotta disagree with you there. The devs themself said on several occasions that there will be no beta, they are doing internal testing, and that preorders will basically be paying for access to The Prelude, which was supposed to simply be a pre-launch thing giving them a headstart to get things going before they open access to everyone else.
I haven't been paying that much attention, so I can't dispute that, but you'll have to understand if I call bullshit anyway. It's not like this argument hasn't been brought up for other games as well. *cough* MO *cough*
People will say whatever it takes to make their argument stand, especially when there is a lack of definitive proof... and money is involved.
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AllSeeing, I agree and this continually needs to be reminded at the Xsyon forums too. Many who have already sought refunding and posted the disappointing threads on the xsyon forum arent do so because someone wants the game to fail, but because most were hoping it would succeed.
Aside from the failed cheerleading rediculously supporting the Xsyon nonsense, the facts remain:
~ The pre-purchase was under the guise that the great deal of beta testing was done internally for a prolonged period of time prior to opening "pre-orders' for "prelude period".
~ No one pre-ordered with the intention that we would be "funding" a prolonged and unknown period of alpha testing, but early entry for a 4/15 prelude launch of full feature-rich content which has suddenly, since a bunch of "cash" influx from unsuspecting players, is now 4-months out as opposed to the origonal 4-weeks.
~ Pre-order people did not sign up to "Alpha Test" an incomplete product, as they were told that launch was 4/15 and pre-orders have early access prior to that date, not "alpha-testing" for a hopeful 8/15 launch.
~ Many people that did pre-order are waiting for Xsyon to get their sh&^ together, wondering what other smoke & mirrors are going to come next.
Most want Xsyon to succed, but dont like being taken advantage of, so it leads some to wonder if Jordi, the lead Xsyon dev, is ok with Xsyon being as much a grossly lackluster mmo accomplishment as Wurm or Roma Victor.
Virtus, your a reasonable person. Im not here to pile on the rabbit, and there is a reality check needed. This above is the closest to a reality check. It doesnt mean Xsyon is hated, but just being watched very closely.
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I'm sick of people complaining that they expected a full-game by now.
You paid for beta access and will recieve your free months when the game actually starts.
Learn to live sickly then, I guess, because your sickness is misplaced. People did not pay for beta access. They paid for early access to a previously beta tested game that was supposed to be in the final stages of "dotting 'i's" and "crossing 't's".
I'm sick of people complaining that they expected a full-game by now.
You paid for beta access and will recieve your free months when the game actually starts. If the time you paid for isn't cycling yet, then you can't expect the game to be live, or even finished. Granted there seems to be lots of issues, but miscommunication is not one of them. You people just spent far too much time reading between the lines to figure out the obvious.
You preordered - and the game is not live yet. Complain when the free months from the preorder starts trickling away, then you'll have a right to. As it is now, you paid for something you know was going through a beta phase, and are just using what you paid already as an excuse for it to be gold *right now*.
Gotta disagree with you there. The devs themself said on several occasions that there will be no beta, they are doing internal testing, and that preorders will basically be paying for access to The Prelude, which was supposed to simply be a pre-launch thing giving them a headstart to get things going before they open access to everyone else.
I haven't been paying that much attention, so I can't dispute that, but you'll have to understand if I call bullshit anyway. It's not like this argument hasn't been brought up for other games as well. *cough* MO *cough*
People will say whatever it takes to make their argument stand, especially when there is a lack of definitive proof.
Well, they don't seem to have a news/announcement archive unless im missing something, so cant track down their old postings right now (will see if i can find some, but i had read through them pretty thoroughly at the time). However, these are taken from the official site About and FAQ pages:
- 5.) Is there a beta?
No. There is only an early access for those who have pre-ordered.
- What is the Prelude?
The Prelude is a limited first release of the Xsyon virtual world. An isolated basin surrounded by mountains in a future American wilderness serves as a launching point for the ever expanding world. This setting provides a pristine environment for players to develop a new world.
During the Prelude, Xsyon will continuously evolve and expand. Denizens will uncover remnants of lost technology, discover new crafts and skills and encounter new creatures. A deadly fog which surrounds the basin will slowly recede to expose new lands, more affected and ravaged by the ongoing apocalypse.
The players of the Prelude begin as scavengers, hunters and gatherers. By uniting as clans and building towns, they will cultivate civilizations, establish trade, forge alliances and develop enmities. They lay the foundations for future generations of Xsyon dwellers.
Join us now in the Prelude and help determine the future of Xsyon!
I'm sick of people complaining that they expected a full-game by now.
You paid for beta access and will recieve your free months when the game actually starts. If the time you paid for isn't cycling yet, then you can't expect the game to be live, or even finished. Granted there seems to be lots of issues, but miscommunication is not one of them. You people just spent far too much time reading between the lines to figure out the obvious.
You preordered - and the game is not live yet. Complain when the free months from the preorder starts trickling away, then you'll have a right to. As it is now, you paid for something you know was going through a beta phase, and are just using what you paid already as an excuse for it to be gold *right now*.
Gotta disagree with you there. The devs themself said on several occasions that there will be no beta, they are doing internal testing, and that preorders will basically be paying for access to The Prelude, which was supposed to simply be a pre-launch thing giving them a headstart to get things going before they open access to everyone else.
I haven't been paying that much attention, so I can't dispute that, but you'll have to understand if I call bullshit anyway. It's not like this argument hasn't been brought up for other games as well. *cough* MO *cough*
People will say whatever it takes to make their argument stand, especially when there is a lack of definitive proof.
Well if you havn't been paying attention then you shouldn't be adressing this thread as you have been. How can you call bullshit when you don't even understand what is going on.
What kind of proof do I need other then being in the actual PRELUDE and knowing how the game is. Are you in the prelude? What kind of proof do you have?
So basically you are posting with no proof , you admit you havn't been paying attention and you admit that people will say whatever it takes to make their arugment stand. You just lobotomized your post and any post that you bring to the table in this forum.
Well if you havn't been paying attention then you shouldn't be adressing this thread as you have been. How can you call bullshit when you don't even understand what is going on.
What kind of proof do I need other then being in the actual PRELUDE and knowing how the game is. Are you in the prelude? What kind of proof do you have?
The proof I have is *this forums, and the crazies within* and past experiences with what happened to DF and MO, whose most proliferant fanbois turned hater and set their sights to Xsyon - where the cycle seems to be starting over again.
The question is - why should anyone listen to you people in the first place?
That is why I call bullshit, and will continue to.
I admit though, that if they truly said what your people are saying, then they put their foot in their mouth early.... but I am not leaving it past any of you to doctor the facts and insert opinion.
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Well if you havn't been paying attention then you shouldn't be adressing this thread as you have been. How can you call bullshit when you don't even understand what is going on.
What kind of proof do I need other then being in the actual PRELUDE and knowing how the game is. Are you in the prelude? What kind of proof do you have?
So basically you are posting with no proof , you admit you havn't been paying attention and you admit that people will say whatever it takes to make their arugment stand. You just lobotomized your post and any post that you bring to the table in this forum.
Lets clear up some misconceptions. Xsyon:Prelude, is the first chapter of the game. All preorders will be given early access. Until the wipe, dubbed year zero, it is the devs finishing up the game. After year zero wipe, approximately two weeks before the launch date, all the preorders will be able to build up the world, with all the launch features.
I admit though, that if they truly said what your people are saying, then they put their foot in their mouth early.... but I am not leaving it past any of you to doctor the facts and insert opinion.
I'd normally say you'd have somewhat reasonable ground for the vitriol and skepticism however you are posting in a thread where the first few pages have direct links to the exact content you're calling bullshit on.
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I admit though, that if they truly said what your people are saying, then they put their foot in their mouth early.... but I am not leaving it past any of you to doctor the facts and insert opinion.
I'd normally say you'd have somewhat reasonable ground for the vitriol and skepticism however you are posting in a thread where the first few pages have direct links to the exact content you're calling bullshit on.
First of all, it's piss and vinegar, and you'll do well not to let those streams cross.
Secondly, yes, I went to the FAQ page and they did put their foot in their mouth. We all know that it's in a beta phase right now, but because they didn't want to disclose it as such (at least publically), it really puts the ball in the whine-o's court. I dunno where it could go from here, and I'm not going to suggest any routes of discourse against it either. ~But for once, the people I typically despise have a right to lord over this situation.
Hmpf.
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I admit though, that if they truly said what your people are saying, then they put their foot in their mouth early.... but I am not leaving it past any of you to doctor the facts and insert opinion.
I'd normally say you'd have somewhat reasonable ground for the vitriol and skepticism however you are posting in a thread where the first few pages have direct links to the exact content you're calling bullshit on.
Whcih brings me back to my and others factual posts as opposed to others farcicle posts.
Xsyon is not a scam, but their team has shown to practice the art of slight-of-hand very well. Some will see it for what it is, while others will blindly dismiss the reality for one delusional reason or another.
Well, they don't seem to have a news/announcement archive unless im missing something, so cant track down their old postings right now (will see if i can find some, but i had read through them pretty thoroughly at the time). However, these are taken from the official site About and FAQ pages:
- 5.) Is there a beta?
No. There is only an early access for those who have pre-ordered.
- What is the Prelude?
The Prelude is a limited first release of the Xsyon virtual world. An isolated basin surrounded by mountains in a future American wilderness serves as a launching point for the ever expanding world. This setting provides a pristine environment for players to develop a new world.
During the Prelude, Xsyon will continuously evolve and expand. Denizens will uncover remnants of lost technology, discover new crafts and skills and encounter new creatures. A deadly fog which surrounds the basin will slowly recede to expose new lands, more affected and ravaged by the ongoing apocalypse.
The players of the Prelude begin as scavengers, hunters and gatherers. By uniting as clans and building towns, they will cultivate civilizations, establish trade, forge alliances and develop enmities. They lay the foundations for future generations of Xsyon dwellers.
Join us now in the Prelude and help determine the future of Xsyon!
As siredmond said, and I will repeat for clarity, you are in early access, not prelude. Prelude is after release.
Well, they don't seem to have a news/announcement archive unless im missing something, so cant track down their old postings right now (will see if i can find some, but i had read through them pretty thoroughly at the time). However, these are taken from the official site About and FAQ pages:
- 5.) Is there a beta?
No. There is only an early access for those who have pre-ordered.
- What is the Prelude?
The Prelude is a limited first release of the Xsyon virtual world. An isolated basin surrounded by mountains in a future American wilderness serves as a launching point for the ever expanding world. This setting provides a pristine environment for players to develop a new world.
During the Prelude, Xsyon will continuously evolve and expand. Denizens will uncover remnants of lost technology, discover new crafts and skills and encounter new creatures. A deadly fog which surrounds the basin will slowly recede to expose new lands, more affected and ravaged by the ongoing apocalypse.
The players of the Prelude begin as scavengers, hunters and gatherers. By uniting as clans and building towns, they will cultivate civilizations, establish trade, forge alliances and develop enmities. They lay the foundations for future generations of Xsyon dwellers.
Join us now in the Prelude and help determine the future of Xsyon!
As siredmond said, and I will repeat for clarity, you are in early access, not prelude. Prelude is after release.
regardless of what exactly "The Prelude" is, this is a beta, not "early access". Early access, would be access to a finished product ahead of other people. The players are currently testing, reporting, devs fix based on the testing, etc... thats a beta test.
Perhaps it wasn't the original intention to be misleading, but that's what things have become. When we first received news of the game and its features and the pre-ordering began, it was said that there is no beta, testing is already being done, and pre-order players will get early access to the finished product.
Since then, things have been changed and now its basically preorders get to beta test, but we just dont call it a beta test, and then 4+ months later than promised when our "non-testing" is finally done and game is ready they will get their early access to the finished product. People preordered based on what was told to us by the devs, and that it was claimed that all the features in that list are 80-100% completed and functional.
Not trying to be a dick or anything, I understand things change, but it was really something that should have been thought out and explained more clearly from the beggining, rather than after people started spending money expecting a finished product in a matter of a few weeks, rather than 4 months (and even thats just hopeful, it may get delayed even more by then). Clear & detailed information goes a long way towards making sure things dont come back and bite you in the ass later, and well you can't get much clearer than describing the current state of the game as exactly what it is, a beta test.
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Not really, I was hardly interested enough to keep track of anything. I saw it, decided it's not something I'd support at this point in time and moved on. I kinda hoped it'd be successfull, though, which is why I'm still checking out threads like this occasionally.
Nothing I read at the time, however, indicated that pre-ordering meant anything other than what I already said. They had a target date and the quoted announcement is perhaps unfortunately (though understandably) optimistic, but that's all. The game's worst mistake, most likely, was that it caught the attention of the crowd that assembled when Darkfall launched. I think it'll be smart for any indie company interested in future MMO development to steer clear of any game design decisions that might seem attractive to those people.
Which is why I was curious where you read that because everything the devs wrote made it clear that it is not a beta and that Prelude is a lauch date.
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All this arguing is moot. Fact is NG marketed the game in a way that made me think when I purchased it I would have early access and that shit acutally worked. I don't mind squashing a few bugs before a release but this is just strait bullshit. That is why no one plays , that is why no one "tests" we was conned into thinking we was coming into a half or more finished product and a few things needed worked out before the actual launch. Hell the whole game needs reworked and MADE. Cause as far as I am concerened all these so called features that are turned off just don't exsist at all.
I will be getting a refund here in the next month or so if they do not provide me with something playable. Its been almost 3 months now since I was promised a "prelude". Wiping the server every few days is not a prelude.
Hm. That is a really unfortunate display of unwarranted optimism on their part. I take back the harsh tone of my previous posts here.
AllSeeing, I agree and this continually needs to be reminded at the Xsyon forums too. Many who have already sought refunding and posted the disappointing threads on the xsyon forum arent do so because someone wants the game to fail, but because most were hoping it would succeed.
Aside from the failed cheerleading rediculously supporting the Xsyon nonsense, the facts remain:
~ The pre-purchase was under the guise that the great deal of beta testing was done internally for a prolonged period of time prior to opening "pre-orders' for "prelude period".
~ No one pre-ordered with the intention that we would be "funding" a prolonged and unknown period of alpha testing, but early entry for a 4/15 prelude launch of full feature-rich content which has suddenly, since a bunch of "cash" influx from unsuspecting players, is now 4-months out as opposed to the origonal 4-weeks.
~ Pre-order people did not sign up to "Alpha Test" an incomplete product, as they were told that launch was 4/15 and pre-orders have early access prior to that date, not "alpha-testing" for a hopeful 8/15 launch.
http://www.massively.com/2010/03/15/xsyon-lead-developer-talks-release-plans/
~ Many people that did pre-order are waiting for Xsyon to get their sh&^ together, wondering what other smoke & mirrors are going to come next.
Most want Xsyon to succed, but dont like being taken advantage of, so it leads some to wonder if Jordi, the lead Xsyon dev, is ok with Xsyon being as much a grossly lackluster mmo accomplishment as Wurm or Roma Victor.
Just a note, i said in a post somewhere else here that Massively's reports on Xsyon have come from players emailing them about the game. Jordi has not sent any press releases to any company at any time and refuses to do so until things are on the up and up.
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OR, now here is real OMG moment coming....
He can exercise his right of free speech, even if that means saying how bad he hates the game...
Ya i know, its a crazy concept.....In China
I mean really, its one thing to disagree with someones point of view and offer your own points, but don't attack the fact that he even made his belief known.
I'm sick of people complaining that they expected a full-game by now.
You paid for beta access and will recieve your free months when the game actually starts. If the time you paid for isn't cycling yet, then you can't expect the game to be live, or even finished. Granted there seems to be lots of issues, but miscommunication is not one of them. You people just spent far too much time reading between the lines to figure out the obvious.
You preordered - and the game is not live yet. Complain when the free months from the preorder starts trickling away, then you'll have a right to. As it is now, you paid for something you know was going through a beta phase, and are just using what you paid already as an excuse for it to be gold *right now*.
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Gotta disagree with you there. The devs themself said on several occasions that there will be no beta, they are doing internal testing, and that preorders will basically be paying for access to The Prelude, which was supposed to simply be a pre-launch thing giving them a headstart to get things going before they open access to everyone else. There was not supposed to be any testing whatsoever involved, they were promised access to a fully functional game ahead of thos ethat didnt preorder. They also claimed all features listed (when we first got the feature list a few months ago) were either fully working, or at least 80% complete, specifically to avoid promising things, finding out its not going to work right / cant be done. and then not being able to deliver on their promises. But from what i hear/read theres a lot of stuff not in game thats supposed to be.
Im hopeful for Xsyon too, everything they promised sounds great, but as more time goes by it really does seem to just be turning into MO Part2.
I haven't been paying that much attention, so I can't dispute that, but you'll have to understand if I call bullshit anyway. It's not like this argument hasn't been brought up for other games as well. *cough* MO *cough*
People will say whatever it takes to make their argument stand, especially when there is a lack of definitive proof... and money is involved.
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Virtus, your a reasonable person. Im not here to pile on the rabbit, and there is a reality check needed. This above is the closest to a reality check. It doesnt mean Xsyon is hated, but just being watched very closely.
Learn to live sickly then, I guess, because your sickness is misplaced. People did not pay for beta access. They paid for early access to a previously beta tested game that was supposed to be in the final stages of "dotting 'i's" and "crossing 't's".
Well, they don't seem to have a news/announcement archive unless im missing something, so cant track down their old postings right now (will see if i can find some, but i had read through them pretty thoroughly at the time). However, these are taken from the official site About and FAQ pages:
- 5.) Is there a beta?
No. There is only an early access for those who have pre-ordered.
- What is the Prelude?
The Prelude is a limited first release of the Xsyon virtual world. An isolated basin surrounded by mountains in a future American wilderness serves as a launching point for the ever expanding world. This setting provides a pristine environment for players to develop a new world.
During the Prelude, Xsyon will continuously evolve and expand. Denizens will uncover remnants of lost technology, discover new crafts and skills and encounter new creatures. A deadly fog which surrounds the basin will slowly recede to expose new lands, more affected and ravaged by the ongoing apocalypse.
The players of the Prelude begin as scavengers, hunters and gatherers. By uniting as clans and building towns, they will cultivate civilizations, establish trade, forge alliances and develop enmities. They lay the foundations for future generations of Xsyon dwellers.
Join us now in the Prelude and help determine the future of Xsyon!
Well if you havn't been paying attention then you shouldn't be adressing this thread as you have been. How can you call bullshit when you don't even understand what is going on.
What kind of proof do I need other then being in the actual PRELUDE and knowing how the game is. Are you in the prelude? What kind of proof do you have?
So basically you are posting with no proof , you admit you havn't been paying attention and you admit that people will say whatever it takes to make their arugment stand. You just lobotomized your post and any post that you bring to the table in this forum.
The proof I have is *this forums, and the crazies within* and past experiences with what happened to DF and MO, whose most proliferant fanbois turned hater and set their sights to Xsyon - where the cycle seems to be starting over again.
The question is - why should anyone listen to you people in the first place?
That is why I call bullshit, and will continue to.
I admit though, that if they truly said what your people are saying, then they put their foot in their mouth early.... but I am not leaving it past any of you to doctor the facts and insert opinion.
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Lets clear up some misconceptions. Xsyon:Prelude, is the first chapter of the game. All preorders will be given early access. Until the wipe, dubbed year zero, it is the devs finishing up the game. After year zero wipe, approximately two weeks before the launch date, all the preorders will be able to build up the world, with all the launch features.
I'd normally say you'd have somewhat reasonable ground for the vitriol and skepticism however you are posting in a thread where the first few pages have direct links to the exact content you're calling bullshit on.
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First of all, it's piss and vinegar, and you'll do well not to let those streams cross.
Secondly, yes, I went to the FAQ page and they did put their foot in their mouth. We all know that it's in a beta phase right now, but because they didn't want to disclose it as such (at least publically), it really puts the ball in the whine-o's court. I dunno where it could go from here, and I'm not going to suggest any routes of discourse against it either. ~But for once, the people I typically despise have a right to lord over this situation.
Hmpf.
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Whcih brings me back to my and others factual posts as opposed to others farcicle posts.
Xsyon is not a scam, but their team has shown to practice the art of slight-of-hand very well. Some will see it for what it is, while others will blindly dismiss the reality for one delusional reason or another.
As siredmond said, and I will repeat for clarity, you are in early access, not prelude. Prelude is after release.
regardless of what exactly "The Prelude" is, this is a beta, not "early access". Early access, would be access to a finished product ahead of other people. The players are currently testing, reporting, devs fix based on the testing, etc... thats a beta test.
Perhaps it wasn't the original intention to be misleading, but that's what things have become. When we first received news of the game and its features and the pre-ordering began, it was said that there is no beta, testing is already being done, and pre-order players will get early access to the finished product.
Since then, things have been changed and now its basically preorders get to beta test, but we just dont call it a beta test, and then 4+ months later than promised when our "non-testing" is finally done and game is ready they will get their early access to the finished product. People preordered based on what was told to us by the devs, and that it was claimed that all the features in that list are 80-100% completed and functional.
Not trying to be a dick or anything, I understand things change, but it was really something that should have been thought out and explained more clearly from the beggining, rather than after people started spending money expecting a finished product in a matter of a few weeks, rather than 4 months (and even thats just hopeful, it may get delayed even more by then). Clear & detailed information goes a long way towards making sure things dont come back and bite you in the ass later, and well you can't get much clearer than describing the current state of the game as exactly what it is, a beta test.