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how does ccp make money?
with plexes and 14 free expansions and the game + first month of the game only costing 19$ i dont see how ccp makes enough money to be able to put all the hard work they put into this game and profit.
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Also keep in mind they are developing at least two other titles, those being World of Darkness and Dust 514.
I dunno, but rest assured they make alot of it. They've won an Icelandic award or two for the money they bring into their economy so they must not be hurting.
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There are probably going to be a lot of entertaining responses to this, so I'll throw one in early:
http://www.ccpgames.com/en/products/eve-online.aspx
http://store.eve-online.com/
http://www.ccpgames.com/en/company/merger.aspx
http://www.ccpgames.com/en/products/licensing.aspx
Those are some of their likely revenue streams. There is also flat fee charges for things like character transfers and such that probably make them a bit as well. Another assumption I would make is that their overhead is probably not as high as some other developers, but I could certainly be wrong about that.
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PLEX cost more than monthly fees......... :-|
I don't see how one could think they don't make money. I own 3 accounts and haven't logged into any of them in awhile......... speaking of which. lol I need to check my skills.
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they also have arguably the best hardware ever used for a MMO, lots of dedicated staff who love their game (even the bosses), and eve online is also one of the most publicized games on the internet. they show us it is all possible. they show us how the other companies are just greedy bastards sucking off piles of money for OTHER projects to sell you (to suck off even more money to finance other games etc etc.)
hmm wierd. i cant imagine how they could possibly make that much. i guess ccp is just a really amazing company.
According to Iceland (and many of CCP's customers), they are.
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PLEX dont cost CCP money. Other players buy them from CCP to sell for ISK.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
oh really? i thought they just cost isk.
A player buys a 60 day GTC for real money and converts it into two PLEX to sell for ISK. Therefore, the account is still paid for with real money, just not your real money.
-mklinic
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Do something wrong, no one forgets"
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they are sold by other players (i.e. you can buy an extra month of subscription and sell it instead of using it for yourself).
still, they never run out, there is always a lot of people selling...
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I'm totally new there (maybe a week max), but I've run into a lot of people that run alt accounts.
As you may or may not know you can only train skills for 1 character at a time, so making alts on the same account is simply not possible (without completely hatling progress on your main char)
As a result, I see many people holding multiple accounts. I'm sure a lot of these people make enough ISk to fund some of the accounts with the PLEX, but I'm sure they pay something monthly.
Now for the PLEX, I'm pretty sure the main reason it's there is to keep older established players (leaders of CORPS and such) playing the game. It's a pretty nice system to keep your vets in the game if you ask me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CCP_Games
You would be amazed how much profit is generated just via monthly fees. About a year back i can't rem which website did a study based off of blizzards financial info for WOW and determined that after everything was said and done, accounting for hardware costs, bandwidth, employees, tech support, etc, Blizz was making about 60cents on the dollar.
CCP is probably higher than that b/c the general playerbase of EVE tends to be a lot smarter and needs FAR FAR FAR less "tech support" or customer service calls, etc. Hell as far as i know they dont even have a call center for that stuff. Lets also remember that although eve is a fantastic looking game, thats all done client side, so the amount of bandwidth they use is likely very minimal. Really the majority of their costs is running the games servers.
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Not everyone that plays EVE uses PLEXs. In fact, I doubt that more then 10% or so actually use them. Therefore, most of the money that CCP gets is still from monthly subscription fees.
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According to that website in 2008 CCP made about 5 million in US adjusted dollars profit.
Not sure if serious...
Please explain the difference between accounts activated via plex and accounts subbed via monthly payment.
Because their not sub sections of a insanely greedy money grabbing corporation that wants to milk everything for the maximum up front potential profit damn the customers and damn customer loyalty?
Seriously, the people that defend item malls and such as 'necessities' to current subscription games to keep them going are just eating the company crap line and sinker. I'm glad CCP is around to show what a load of bull it is.
WTF they make EVE!!!!!!
This just one step below being a German Brewmaster or being in the porn industry
So entire thread based a misconception!
I'm mostly commenting because its rare to see a thread have such a simple yet beautiful conclusion.
Slow and steady wins the race, WoW may have burst in to greatness dollar wise, but Eve has had a solid dedicated fan base for years that kept their subs. Everyone I know that plays Eve have played from the beginning and still play because they love what it offers. That is what all MMO should strive for honestly imho.
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Server tends to be full, 35k peeps and then their is a waiting line to get in. Must be meeting their subscription target.
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Everyone knows that Odin and Thor are the main investors at CCP. They have zillions of dollars they are making from selling the Asgardian gold on the open market. Then they invest global cash into CCP. Even Loki is in on the piece of that action. Hellloooo!!!
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You know someone has to actually buy the PLEX people buy. CCP is not the one seeding the market with it