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E3 and SWTOR - What to expect?

ThedrizzleThedrizzle Member Posts: 322
in Star Wars: The Old Republic

With E3 on our doorsteps and the developers telling to hold out for new information at this years E3 convention, what type of information are you hoping they release. I know thats a stupid question, hell give us all the info, but is there anyting in particular?

-Sinvrall

Article I wrote regarding E3 and SWTOR @ my blog:  http://swtormmo.org/?p=67

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  • BooksBooks Member Posts: 80

    I'm expecting some dun-dun-dun-dun-duh-dunnnn-duh-da-dunnnnn EMPIRRRREE! 

    Followed by some doot-doot-doodle-oo-doot-doot-doodle-oo DARKSIDE! 

    Then maybe some daaaaaa-da-daaaaa-dada-daa-daa-daaaa-daaa-daaaa-dada-daaa-dadaaaaa COMPANION CHARACTERS!

    Then some dunnnnn-dunnnn-dunnnnnnnn-dundum-dummmmm!-dummmm!-dun-dun-dun-dunnnnnnn!-Dum! REBELScum. 

  • safetysafety Member Posts: 219

    I think we can expect another sizzling trailer.

    We'll also get another heavily preset combat experience, this time from the Alliance side - I'm guessing the Jedi Consular this time around.

    What we won't get are credible answers to the questions:

    - Is this truly an MMORPG or a single player online game with networking features?

    - Will there be flight combat in this game at launch? If not, why not?

    - Is what Bioware means by 'open world' the same as what ordinary mmo players mean by 'open world'?

    - Are crafting and selling really integral to this game? Or bolted-on afterthoughts?

    - What about housing?

    ... etc etc.

     

  • KickphatKickphat Member Posts: 189

    I think they are going to talk about end game and pvp and also go deeper into the talent trees of each class and also companion characters for each class. I think they will whole off on talking about space and wait until a few months before the games is about to tells us about it

  • Darth_OsorDarth_Osor Member Posts: 1,089

    Hopefully, they show or at least talk about the MMO aspects of this game.  Beta can't be too far off, and those details or lack of will leak out once that happens.  They might as well be the ones to put it out there.

  • BenjolaBenjola Member UncommonPosts: 843

    Moar VOs, companions and rest of the single player nonesense they been talking about for a year.

    Because that's all they got.

    I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.

  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Member UncommonPosts: 2,433

    Most likely another CGI, possibly at one of the press conferences like last year.

    Then we're getting half an hour of dedicated time, so I hope we'll see plenty of footage in that; as well as all the interviews and stuff that I hope we'll be getting some flesh on some of the features like PvP etc in.

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  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357

    Hopefully some gameplay to go with the trailer this time =0

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  • KanethKaneth Member RarePosts: 2,286

    Wookies in bikinis.

     

    You heard it here first!

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056

    Originally posted by Kaneth

    Wookies in bikinis.

     

    You heard it here first!

    I think a wax might be in order.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • MaughannMaughann Member Posts: 139

    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by Kaneth

    Wookies in bikinis.

     

    You heard it here first!

    I think a wax might be in order.

    Where'd I leave that weed-whacker? :p

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056

    Originally posted by Kickphat

    I think they will whole off on talking about space and wait until a few months before the games is about to tells us about it

    They will hold off telling us that it won't be in.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • TheHatterTheHatter Member Posts: 2,547

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  • darkangel99darkangel99 Member Posts: 23

    they will show us another cool awesome trailer, this time with the jedi being the main characters.  more combat videos probably of jedi and a beta announcement plus any other things that are ready to be shown.  space probably not because it is probably not ready to be shown.  bioware is truly operating off the first impression approach to me and they dont want to show anything that is less than stellar because they know how mmo players will spout it from the rooftops about how bad the space combat is if they show it as less than stellar, so they will hold off on that till its ready, a couple of months before release.

     

    bioware has already shown us and told us how this game is an mmo and not just a singleplayer game with multiplayer access, some of you just wont listen to your own ears.

  • dzikundzikun Member Posts: 150

    A new CGI trailer - Some talk about Story... and story... and also companion characters... There will also most probably be a jedi gameplay showoff and a talk about how "heroic" you will feel playing the game... Annnnnd maybe... Some info on when the beta starts.

     

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  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056

    Originally posted by darkangel99

    they will show us another cool awesome trailer, this time with the jedi being the main characters.  more combat videos probably of jedi and a beta announcement plus any other things that are ready to be shown.  space probably not because it is probably not ready to be shown.  bioware is truly operating off the first impression approach to me and they dont want to show anything that is less than stellar

    Then why have they released those combat videos? They are certainly less than stellar.

    because they know how mmo players will spout it from the rooftops about how bad the space combat is if they show it as less than stellar, so they will hold off on that till its ready, a couple of months before release.

    They know how much of a stink there will be when they admit there is no space combat. Remember, they have not confimred space combat is in the game - unlike crafting, PvP, and raiding.

    bioware has already shown us and told us how this game is an mmo and not just a singleplayer game with multiplayer access,

    No, they have only told us.

    some of you just wont listen to your own ears.

    Damn, you must be new to MMOs to trust the devs like that.

    "Believe nothing that you hear, and only half of what you see."

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • KyngBillsKyngBills Member UncommonPosts: 452

    Originally posted by safety

    What we won't get are credible answers to the questions:

    - Is this truly an MMORPG or a single player online game with networking features?

    How many times does BioWare have to state the Game is going to have all the traditional elements of an MMO for Folks like you to believe it?...It will be every bit as much of an MMORPG than any other one out there...They've already said it a million times over...The only difference will be if you choose to Solo most of the time you will be able to...That's all...There will be 6 Years of development on this Game when it comes out...Auctions Houses...Yes...PvP...Yes...Crafting...Yes...It's mostly already been answered...

    - Is what Bioware means by 'open world' the same as what ordinary mmo players mean by 'open world'?

    Quote From Daniel Erickson: "One of the real things we wanted to show at GDC this year is that our worlds are huge, actually. They are giant, you can explore. They are massive. You can just wander off one direction and go forever."

    Quote from James Olhen: "Our public areas are one contiguous world", "Not just our cities - 90% of the game, actually, will be areas where you can run into other players" - PC Gamer UK April 2010

    - Are crafting and selling really integral to this game? Or bolted-on afterthoughts?

    Quote: We’ve spent quite a bit of time discussing how to ensure that crafters – true dedicated crafters – can make a name for themselves and be important in their community. - Dev Blog Damion Schubert

    Quote: We are going to have crafting, because that's a big part of MMOs. We're going to implement crafting in a way that 'feels' right for Star Wars. - Massively TOR 2008

    - What about housing?

    Some notes from the lecture “MMO Retention - Learning from the First 25 Years,” by Scott Hartsman of Trion, and Gordon Walton of BioWare.

    Gordon Walton of Bioware discussed aspirational experiences, and pointed out that they didn’t necessarily have to be day to day, they could be things that people aim for over the long term. In Ultima Online, for example, the data showed that people who had houses stayed longer than people who didn’t, so making changes to offer housing to more players became important.

     

     

     

  • marcuslmmarcuslm Member UncommonPosts: 263

    And what will we hear from the forums after E3 announcements? 

     

    More whining that it's a single player game

    More whining that it's too instanced

    More whining that the graphics are bad

    More whining that Bioware knows nothing about MMORPG games

    More fanboys claiming it's the best game ever

    And so on...

    There are a lot of people who have already made up their minds about this game and it's not even in beta. I am going to reserve judgement. It kills me  some how gamers can have some predetermined bullet list of items that a game must have before they consider it an MMO and deem it worth playing. If I play it and it's fun then great. If not, I move on. Hopefully it won't cost me a fortune to try it and find out.

     

    Marcus

  • catlanacatlana Member Posts: 1,677

    Originally posted by safety

    I think we can expect another sizzling trailer.

    We'll also get another heavily preset combat experience, this time from the Alliance side - I'm guessing the Jedi Consular this time around.

    What we won't get are credible answers to the questions:

    - Is this truly an MMORPG or a single player online game with networking features?

    - Will there be flight combat in this game at launch? If not, why not?

    - Is what Bioware means by 'open world' the same as what ordinary mmo players mean by 'open world'?

    - Are crafting and selling really integral to this game? Or bolted-on afterthoughts?

    - What about housing?

    ... etc etc.

     

    I am sure the trailors for SWToR will be awesome. We should see some game play as well. I personally hate crafting so that has no interest for me what so ever. Flight combat either needs to be done right or not at all. If flight combat is not ready, then it should not be part of what is shipped. 

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056

    Originally posted by KyngBills

    Originally posted by safety

    What we won't get are credible answers to the questions:

    - Is this truly an MMORPG or a single player online game with networking features?

    How many times does BioWare have to state the Game is going to have all the traditional elements of an MMO for Folks like you to believe it?...It will be every bit as much of an MMORPG than any other one out there...They've already said it a million times over...The only difference will be if you choose to Solo most of the time you will be able to...That's all...There will be 6 Years of development on this Game when it comes out...Auctions Houses...Yes...PvP...Yes...Crafting...Yes...It's mostly already been answered...

    Talk is cheap, and from an MMO dev - almost worthless.

    The question is - why do you believe them?

     

    - Is what Bioware means by 'open world' the same as what ordinary mmo players mean by 'open world'?

    Quote From Daniel Erickson: "One of the real things we wanted to show at GDC this year is that our worlds are huge, actually. They are giant, you can explore. They are massive. You can just wander off one direction and go forever."

    Quote from James Olhen: "Our public areas are one contiguous world", "Not just our cities - 90% of the game, actually, will be areas where you can run into other players" - PC Gamer UK April 2010

    - Are crafting and selling really integral to this game? Or bolted-on afterthoughts?

    Quote: We’ve spent quite a bit of time discussing how to ensure that crafters – true dedicated crafters – can make a name for themselves and be important in their community. - Dev Blog Damion Schubert

    Quote: We are going to have crafting, because that's a big part of MMOs. We're going to implement crafting in a way that 'feels' right for Star Wars. - Massively TOR 2008

    - What about housing?

    Some notes from the lecture “MMO Retention - Learning from the First 25 Years,” by Scott Hartsman of Trion, and Gordon Walton of BioWare.

    Gordon Walton of Bioware discussed aspirational experiences, and pointed out that they didn’t necessarily have to be day to day, they could be things that people aim for over the long term. In Ultima Online, for example, the data showed that people who had houses stayed longer than people who didn’t, so making changes to offer housing to more players became important.

     

     

     

    Those quotes are very vague.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • MMO_DoubterMMO_Doubter Member Posts: 5,056

    Originally posted by catlana

    I am sure the trailors for SWToR will be awesome. We should see some game play as well. I personally hate crafting so that has no interest for me what so ever. Flight combat either needs to be done right or not at all. If flight combat is not ready, then it should not be part of what is shipped. 

    If it isn't 'ready' after 6 years and $150 million, then they never had any intention of including it.

    "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    A playable demo would be nice.  But that being said the company should be posting on there web site what to expect to see during E3.

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195

    Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

    Originally posted by KyngBills

    Originally posted by safety

    What we won't get are credible answers to the questions:

    - Is this truly an MMORPG or a single player online game with networking features?

    How many times does BioWare have to state the Game is going to have all the traditional elements of an MMO for Folks like you to believe it?...It will be every bit as much of an MMORPG than any other one out there...They've already said it a million times over...The only difference will be if you choose to Solo most of the time you will be able to...That's all...There will be 6 Years of development on this Game when it comes out...Auctions Houses...Yes...PvP...Yes...Crafting...Yes...It's mostly already been answered...

    Talk is cheap, and from an MMO dev - almost worthless.

    The question is - why do you believe them?

     

    - Is what Bioware means by 'open world' the same as what ordinary mmo players mean by 'open world'?

    Quote From Daniel Erickson: "One of the real things we wanted to show at GDC this year is that our worlds are huge, actually. They are giant, you can explore. They are massive. You can just wander off one direction and go forever."

    Quote from James Olhen: "Our public areas are one contiguous world", "Not just our cities - 90% of the game, actually, will be areas where you can run into other players" - PC Gamer UK April 2010

    - Are crafting and selling really integral to this game? Or bolted-on afterthoughts?

    Quote: We’ve spent quite a bit of time discussing how to ensure that crafters – true dedicated crafters – can make a name for themselves and be important in their community. - Dev Blog Damion Schubert

    Quote: We are going to have crafting, because that's a big part of MMOs. We're going to implement crafting in a way that 'feels' right for Star Wars. - Massively TOR 2008

    - What about housing?

    Some notes from the lecture “MMO Retention - Learning from the First 25 Years,” by Scott Hartsman of Trion, and Gordon Walton of BioWare.

    Gordon Walton of Bioware discussed aspirational experiences, and pointed out that they didn’t necessarily have to be day to day, they could be things that people aim for over the long term. In Ultima Online, for example, the data showed that people who had houses stayed longer than people who didn’t, so making changes to offer housing to more players became important.

     

     

     

    Those quotes are very vague.

     

    Yeah they really aren't that vague at all.  This thread will go the way of so many others.  You'll see a couple people in particular make remarks about certain features BioWare has already spoken about or shown, and then try and convince everyone else that they really haven't shown anything.

     

    Then they'll say that everything they haven't shown doesn't exist because BioWare is obviously trying to pull a fast one because they've never created an MMO before (or some other perceived well to do opinion based on the notion they deserve what they want)  

     

    Then in the end it will come down to noone knows anything until they play it and the haters will feel like they've accomplished something.   Once you strip the troll bait out of the thread we might actually be able to stay on topic for more than 10 posts without the same few people derailing it.    

     

    As DE said in one of last months interviews, all of the core features are in game and the game is starting to get all of the art and polish in. He went on to say that he can't wait for players to get their hands on the game at E3 so I'm guessing they'll have a much bigger demo of the game.  I also suspect more races will be confirmed... some interviews will be given about some more features that haven't been released yet, and we'll see if BioWare is in the talking mood, or if they want to keep things quiet for a while longer.



  • NytakitoNytakito Member Posts: 381

    TOR will bring great balance to the force at E3.

    "If I'd asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have said a faster horse." - Henry Ford

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    Originally posted by Nytakito

    TOR will bring great balance to the force at E3.

    Hats & T-Shirts would be sweet also =)  Sometimes they give out CB keys at these things.

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  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979

    Originally posted by maskedweasel

     Yeah they really aren't that vague at all.  This thread will go the way of so many others.  You'll see a couple people in particular make remarks about certain features BioWare has already spoken about or shown, and then try and convince everyone else that they really haven't shown anything.

     Then they'll say that everything they haven't shown doesn't exist because BioWare is obviously trying to pull a fast one because they've never created an MMO before (or some other perceived well to do opinion based on the notion they deserve what they want)  

     Then in the end it will come down to noone knows anything until they play it and the haters will feel like they've accomplished something.   Once you strip the troll bait out of the thread we might actually be able to stay on topic for more than 10 posts without the same few people derailing it.    

     As DE said in one of last months interviews, all of the core features are in game and the game is starting to get all of the art and polish in. He went on to say that he can't wait for players to get their hands on the game at E3 so I'm guessing they'll have a much bigger demo of the game.  I also suspect more races will be confirmed... some interviews will be given about some more features that haven't been released yet, and we'll see if BioWare is in the talking mood, or if they want to keep things quiet for a while longer.

    This is pure genius. I am actually applauding you in real life maskedweasel. If the people in my office weren't so distracted/busy with their own stuff, they'd probably think I was weird. 

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