Is PVP on the Horizon yet?

Valarauk · March 2005

I couldn't bring myself to play past the second month after release (boredom) but promised myself if a PVP ruleset server was ever implemented I would try to be the first one there. (I spent 5 years on Tallon-Rallos and then Sullon Zek and no other MMORPG experience has come close for me).

Has anyone heard anything regarding PVP in EQ2?

Wickes · March 2005

Well, this is just my opinion, and certainly not everyone agrees. To me this game was designed from the git go for RvR and it's just been a matter of time. I am expecting to log in one day and find that war has broken out. I think you can see hints of this all over the game now.

RemyVorender · March 2005

I'm sure a ways down the road they will impliment PvP of some sort into EQ2, but rest assured, they will make you pay $ for it.

The way the game is set up u would think there would be PvP already implimented, doesnt it scare anyone else that they dont even have dueling? kinda makes u wonder just how unbalanced the classes really are.

kb4blu · March 2005

Class unbalance is what concerns me about PVP on EQ II. It seems that the characters are setup mainly for PVE.

I mean does anyone think a cleric could beat a warrior of equal level ??

I hope that if they do have PVP they will put it on a separate server like they did on EQ I.

Maabus1999 · March 2005

I don't think if PvP is balanced/created from early in the game design, that it will ever be balanced correctly. If you balance everything around a PvE perspective, it will take forever, if impossible to balance pvp without destroying pve.

Even if they just add dueling, so they don't have to worry about balancing, they can expect tons of ovepowered/underpowered crys on their forums related to only dueling.

9216544 · March 2005

Im sure there will be pvp, just not what people might be hoping for. I think they will just add duels and arenas, and thats it. There are alot of things they can do to not ruin PvE, im sure they will find a way. There is already arenas set up in both Qeynos and Freeport but they say they are closed.

Techpriest · March 2005

PVP was never big in EQ1. Looking at the PVE servers vs the PVP servers it's 40+ to 1. From SOE's point of view I can see why PVP would not be high on the priority list. I read the "Good vs Evil Struggle" as more of the rich story and not anything more.

I think the FAQ says it best...

"Just as the original EverQuest was geared towards PvE (player vs. environment), EverQuest II has a similar focus. There are currently no plans for player vs. player combat in EverQuest II."

For my PVP gaming I am really looking forward to Guild Wars. That game was designed as PVP and looks like it can do it well. I would rather play that when in the mood for real opponents.

9216544 · March 2005

I would hate to see EQ2 implement full PvP and ruines the game and the storyline. The game is focused towards PvE to go along with the story, they want their players to go out and raid and discover new stuff and new chapters of the storyline. If they implement PvP it could change all of that.

Nihilanth · March 2005

im all for pvp in eq2, but if they get stupid and implement OPEN pvp i WILL quit

Fernus · March 2005

From everything I've read from the Dev's that answer is never. It just leads to a class balancing tail spin like EQ where they are still working to balance classes.

Wickes · March 2005

Theyre not going to do open PvP. Far too extreme from where we are now. Even the fairly obvious potential for Qeynos vs. Freeport RvR seems a bit extreme to me because youd get endless complaining about people not being happy about which side they chose when the choice was made with no knowledge of coming RvR. Look at the whole story line the game is built on. Look at whats being done in this adventure pack. What I see them doing is generating a good vs. evil sort of RvR situation with citizens of both Qeynos and Freeport being able to align themselves with either side and the "war" likely being contained to certain areas.

They know this is primarily a PvE game - they would never change that basic flavor. However, it would be absurd to have all these alignments in the game mean nothing - they wont do that either. One thing thats obvious by now is that there is enormous detailed planning and thought in the story line of this game, and they didnt do that to pass the time.

Bobjones1303 · March 2005

If you really look at the game, it would be impossible to implement PvP which you could do anywhere with the current state of the world. Once you get up to level 20 or something, then you get to areas with which both sides are mixed. This world isn't segregated at all. Sure they have 2 different cities, but they only have one dock on D'lere (comonlands continent), one dock on Karana (ant. continent), one dock on EL, one dock on Zek, one dock on Everfrost, one dock on Ferrot, and one dock on Lavastorm. It isn't segreated at all! So you would have people just sitting at the dock pvping everyone when someone bells in. There would be NO safe spots besides for your city. Most of the game is intigrated with the other side. In Nek., everyone can get the same quests, all the npcs are friendly to both sides, each side has to use the same merhcants. I have never seen an EL boatride group that is just Qeynos or just Freeport people, its always mixed, nearly everything is always mixed once you start going past your city walls. From this conclusion i would have to say that open PvP would be impossible to achive, its most likely in my mind that they would implement a battlegrounds feature like WoW has coming out.

kmimmorpg · March 2005

I keep thinking about it from a programming standpoint. Its not like they could flip a switch and all of a sudden you can PvP. This game was how many years in the making? If PvP wasn't part of the plan in the beginning I can't imagine it being added as an afterthought.

Orkhan · March 2005

Hello!

But, if I'm not mistaken, I've seen EQ1 PvP server no ?... For me the only thing to modify is the variable identifying if the player can be attack! .. nothing more..

Heu Ok why on Norrath do you want to level every class!! I've been a fan of D&D and at same lvl a Mage vs Fighter would always end up in a terrible lost by the mage! A real can of Whoop Ass is one of the three major food groups for a mage... at higher level.. this might change! Again PvP is possible .. but I doubt that ordinary players would understand my point of view.. (unless you played D&D)

Orkhan

Scaris · March 2005

Originally posted by kmimmorpg
I keep thinking about it from a programming standpoint. Its not like they could flip a switch and all of a sudden you can PvP. This game was how many years in the making? If PvP wasn't part of the plan in the beginning I can't imagine it being added as an afterthought.

Thats my feelings on it as well.

Wickes · March 2005

It's not an afterthought ... this was all mapped out long long ago (in a galaxy far far away)

Wickes <====

Scaris · March 2005

Originally posted by Wickes
It's not an afterthought ... this was all mapped out long long ago (in a galaxy far far away)
Wickes <====

Your really starting to worry, it may be the old folks home for you soon, the brain is going.

Wickes · March 2005

Nah, I'm just in a good mood ... just had a business thing which was scheduled to take all day (or longer) finish up in an two hours so now I have the rest of the day to screw off. Who could ask for more

Anyway, you guys will all be eating your words when my predictions prove out

Scaris · March 2005

I will be eating more then that since I really don't want PvP in the game at all. I like it how it is, with Nih's slow horse and all!

kmimmorpg · March 2005

Originally posted by Wickes

Nah, I'm just in a good mood ... just had a business thing which was scheduled to take all day (or longer) finish up in an two hours so now I have the rest of the day to screw off. Who could ask for more
Anyway, you guys will all be eating your words when my predictions prove out

Oh what the heck, I'll bet you a pizza there will NEVER be PvP in EQ2!

Fadeus I know you hate those /pizza references - but I couldn't resist.

Scaris · March 2005

Originally posted by kmimmorpg
Originally posted by Wickes
Nah, I'm just in a good mood ... just had a business thing which was scheduled to take all day (or longer) finish up in an two hours so now I have the rest of the day to screw off. Who could ask for more
Anyway, you guys will all be eating your words when my predictions prove out Oh what the heck, I'll bet you a pizza there will NEVER be PvP in EQ2! Fadeus I know you hate those /pizza references - but I couldn't resist.

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Since its you kmimmorpg I will let is slide this time ::::20::

kmimmorpg · March 2005

Originally posted by Fadeus

Originally posted by kmimmorpg

Originally posted by Wickes
Nah, I'm just in a good mood ... just had a business thing which was scheduled to take all day (or longer) finish up in an two hours so now I have the rest of the day to screw off. Who could ask for more
Anyway, you guys will all be eating your words when my predictions prove out
Oh what the heck, I'll bet you a pizza there will NEVER be PvP in EQ2! Fadeus I know you hate those /pizza references - but I couldn't resist.

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Since its you kmimmorpg I will let is slide this time ::::20::

Haha!

Hijacking the thread...I just tried to clicked on your sig and got one of those "Under construction" messages - but its one of the cutest one I've seen.

Scaris · March 2005

umm, it says under maintenance...

They must be working on EQ2players.com again.

Wickes · March 2005

Originally posted by kmimmorpg

Oh what the heck, I'll bet you a pizza there will NEVER be PvP in EQ2! Fadeus I know you hate those /pizza references - but I couldn't resist.

You're on

I can almost taste it already ... mmmm. (extra cheese and onions please)

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