TERA is going to be your typical Korean grinder. I hate Korean grinders. But I might still play TERA. Why? The Sorceress' animations make me want to play one. Seriously. I've seen the YouTube videos. This is not an ugly game and the Sorceress is...amazing.
Its your lucky day!
They are actually re-writing a lot of the quests for western release. In fact they are changing s**t loads of stuff just to make us westerners happy!
Just need to get rid of the silly girly running animation, high heels and the ridiculous Popori, and they'll probably double their subscription numbers!
If you haven't already seen these, some nice official envrinoment videos(720p)
Oh, and one last thing. Rift: Planes of Telara runs on the Gamebryo engine, which is what DAOC runs on. I think someone made the point of the graphics engine being to old.
It does well and truly boggle my mind that certain people get so obsessed with sword sizes. If I were a Freudian I might have some theories on that, but luckily I'm not.
I do wonder how they can get so annoyed over an artistic interpretation. I would advise, however, you stay well away from abstract art museums for the sake of your own health. Just a suggestion.
The morning sun has vanquished the horrible night.
It does well and truly boggle my mind that certain people get so obsessed with sword sizes. If I were a Freudian I might have some theories on that, but luckily I'm not.
I do wonder how they can get so annoyed over an artistic interpretation. I would advise, however, you stay well away from abstract art museums for the sake of your own health. Just a suggestion.
There are a few other factors at work here also. The weapons are not sized for each race (A baraka & Popori will have the same size weapon even though the baraka is much larger).
The reason is because every weapon has got to have the same reach for what ever the weapon is rated for. You can't scale down an axe to 3m in order to fit a popori if the weapon is rated at say 6m.
So the weapon is gonna look crazy big on smaller races (sword looks big on everyone besides Baraka). This might be the reason they MAY lock out some races to classes.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
All it matters is that graphics are top of the line at least for the mmo market.
Having only one game (AoC), which is actually 90% popular ONLY for its graphics to compare with the graphics of TERA is total bulls**t. Not to mention that TERA will be an fps game and MMORPGs with fps gameplay are not known for their amazing graphics, animations, models and everything that has to do with the visuals, but somehow TERA manages to have amazing graphics combined with fps combat.
I'm a huge fan of the asian art style, be it huge swords, axes and stuff or core things like character models.
I probably WOULD be in a debate of whether to play this or FFXIV, but for the shake of pvp this is what I'll (hopefully) get.
That could be a factor as to why not many games from the east hit it big in the west? Just a thought.
Considering that there are many anime conventions with huge turnout I would say that it is probably more the game play than the art design.
And I stand by my post about the eastern art design being representative of more than just "a hunk of metal".
It's very representative. There is also quite an interesting traditon when ti comes to eastern art that most likely has something to do with the evolution of their art design in games.
I also read where having large eyes was actually started by one anime artist who was influenced by cartoon characters like Betty Boop. Reason being, he felt that a greater range of expression could be created using this technique.
The problem is that westerners can't see the forest from the trees. they are too literal, at least in their approach to understanding eastern art design in games.
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That could be a factor as to why not many games from the east hit it big in the west? Just a thought.
Considering that there are many anime conventions with huge turnout I would say that it is probably more the game play than the art design.
And I stand by my post about the eastern art design being representative of more than just "a hunk of metal".
It's very representative. There is also quite an interesting traditon when ti comes to eastern art that most likely has something to do with the evolution of their art design in games.
I also read where having large eyes was actually started by one anime artist who was influenced by cartoon characters like Betty Boop. Reason being, he felt that a greater range of expression could be created using this technique.
Hey Sovrath, is Terra really Lineage 3 with a new name?
That could be a factor as to why not many games from the east hit it big in the west? Just a thought.
Considering that there are many anime conventions with huge turnout I would say that it is probably more the game play than the art design.
And I stand by my post about the eastern art design being representative of more than just "a hunk of metal".
It's very representative. There is also quite an interesting traditon when ti comes to eastern art that most likely has something to do with the evolution of their art design in games.
I also read where having large eyes was actually started by one anime artist who was influenced by cartoon characters like Betty Boop. Reason being, he felt that a greater range of expression could be created using this technique.
Hey Sorvath, is Terra really Lineage 3 with a new name?
Well, that's a very good question.
We do know that a decent amount of bluehole designers were NC Soft employees who left enmasse. We also know that at some point, NC soft was not happy with where Lineage 3 was going so decided to try another way. Did this piss off the team only to have them leave and make a new game? Did they take their work with them?
I also believe NC is (was?) suing bluehole and did win a civil suit which was then going to be appealed. Apparently some of the new Tera people tried to get new investment and disclosed some of the technologies that Lineage 3 was supposed to have and that they were going to use in Tera. In the end only the people involved know. I do know that NC is now designing their own engine to be used with Lineage 3. In any case here is some mention of the suit:
In terms of Lineage 3's code disclosure lawsuit, the South Korean court has recently ruled that the 4 core developers of Lineage 3 (including the former development director) and their current employer Bluehole Studio should compensate NCsoft by 2 billion Wons.
This is the civil ruling, following the criminal one in which the core developers of Bluehole Studio were found guilty (on Jun. 26, 2009, the Seoul Central District Court sentenced the former development director of Lineage 3 - Mr. Park to a fixed-term imprisonment of one and a half years with a 2-year suspension of execution for malfeasance and disclosure of business secrets). According to Bluehole Studio, they're not satisfied with the judgement, and will lodge an appeal immediately.
On Jan. 28, the civil department of the Seoul Central District Court rendered a verdict and required the 4 involved defendants including Mr. Park to compensate NCsoft by 2 billion Wons. Meanwhile, the defendants were also ordered not to disclose NCsoft's business secrets to any others, but clear up all related data in hand.
Though at present, NCsoft wins the lawsuit no matter in the criminal judgement or in the civil one, it's still unknown if the MMORPG TERA under development by Bluehole Studio will be fatally affected.
Mr. Park, formerly in charge of Lineage 3's development, got in touch with a Japanese company in 2006 with the aim of attracting investment, and disclosed certain plans related to Lineage 3. Mr. Bae, who was responsible for other projects at that time, was also involved in this matter. Moreover, the former developers of Lineage 3 including Mr. Kang and Mr. Yo switched over to Bluehole Studio after the cancelation of Lineage 3, and applied certain technologies originally adopted in the development of Lineage 3 in Bluehole Studio's new project - Project S1 (currently named TERA) Story from: MMOsite
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Yeah I kind of heard about some of that and saw some old videos on you tube of lineage 3 and looked an awful lot like Terra. Also heard a rumor that the original L3 code had been stolen and tagged with the Terra name. I didn't realize they were still on for an Lineage 3 though. Thanks good info there man!
Let's take a look at this photo of a few Tera characters in a city:
A running player with a sword on his back that's so big it's dragging the ground and that also goes about three feet over his head. Not to mention the weapons get even larger as they are held and swung for combat.
Oh, and don't forget about that cuddly bear looking NPC that has an Axe on his back thats not one, not two, but three times the height of it's character!
Let's take a look at this photo of a few Tera characters in a city:
A running player with a sword on his back that's so big it's dragging the ground and that also goes about three feet over his head. Not to mention the weapons get even larger as they are held and swung for combat.
Oh, and don't forget about that cuddly bear looking NPC that has an Axe on his back thats not one, not two, but three times the height of it's character!
Ya, no stupid overboard graphics here lol.
this is called Fantasy...
Screw those puny swords in the screenshot, I want swords so large they can't even be seen fully on one screen! Fantasy right?
Let's take a look at this photo of a few Tera characters in a city:
A running player with a sword on his back that's so big it's dragging the ground and that also goes about three feet over his head. Not to mention the weapons get even larger as they are held and swung for combat.
Oh, and don't forget about that cuddly bear looking NPC that has an Axe on his back thats not one, not two, but three times the height of it's character!
Ya, no stupid overboard graphics here lol.
this is called Fantasy...
Screw those puny swords in the screenshot, I want swords so large they can't even be seen fully on one screen! Fantasy right?
Dude why are you raging so much....You don't care for the game, fine we get it.
Move on to a game that you really like. Because no one likes a troll.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
You call that raging? Man, people are too sensitive. In my original post, I said I would like the game to succeed. I will most likely give the game a try. Heck, even I gave Aion a try. But within the first 5 minutes of playing I knew that game was garbage . All this leads up to having a discussion that doesn't completely involve rampant fanboi'ism. People get these super expectations of future games built up in their head like they are the best thing ever without even playing the game. Don't talk bad or critique my future game, that's blasphemy!
I played AOC and i think Tera has better if not on par looks. As far as other things they are just icing on the cake.....ie dx10 godrays, shadows and such.
I find it funny that they had to make a seperate Western design staff to actually make content. How the Asians can sit their mindlessly grinding away to advance with no skill or depth to the game amazes me.
You gotta understand this game is made for the east market and the weeaboos on the west. Just like Aion only weeaboos will support the over-sized weapons, character screaming like 10 year old girls etc...
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Let's take a look at this photo of a few Tera characters in a city:
A running player with a sword on his back that's so big it's dragging the ground and that also goes about three feet over his head. Not to mention the weapons get even larger as they are held and swung for combat.
Oh, and don't forget about that cuddly bear looking NPC that has an Axe on his back thats not one, not two, but three times the height of it's character!
Ya, no stupid overboard graphics here lol.
this is called Fantasy...
Screw those puny swords in the screenshot, I want swords so large they can't even be seen fully on one screen! Fantasy right?
Dude why are you raging so much....You don't care for the game, fine we get it.
Move on to a game that you really like. Because no one likes a troll.
i want the sword so large that the sword swings the weilder as a weapon.
You gotta understand this game is made for the east market and the weeaboos on the west. Just like Aion only weeaboos will support the over-sized weapons, character screaming like 10 year old girls etc...
Let's take a look at this photo of a few Tera characters in a city:
A running player with a sword on his back that's so big it's dragging the ground and that also goes about three feet over his head. Not to mention the weapons get even larger as they are held and swung for combat.
Oh, and don't forget about that cuddly bear looking NPC that has an Axe on his back thats not one, not two, but three times the height of it's character!
Ya, no stupid overboard graphics here lol.
this is called Fantasy...
Screw those puny swords in the screenshot, I want swords so large they can't even be seen fully on one screen! Fantasy right?
Dude why are you raging so much....You don't care for the game, fine we get it.
Move on to a game that you really like. Because no one likes a troll.
i want the sword so large that the sword swings the weilder as a weapon.
Haha, I like that idea. In Soviet Russia, sword swings You!
The largest problem for me is the silly art style. You see a melee character with a sword on his back. He equips the sword in his hands, and now the sword is 20 feet long and three times the size of the character. The Asian art style of a 70 pound tiny little warrior girl swinging around a 20-foot long 300 pound sword is completely retarded. I mean sure this is fantasy and you can exagerate some, but there has to be a limit somewhere before things become stupid.
This is the only problem I have with this game as well. Seeing a 90 lbs female (or male for that matter) wielding a 200 lbs axe just kills immersion for me. Other than that I can't wait.
I have yet to meet a person that plays or does not play a game because of immersion. Entertainment yes, Immersion not so much.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I have yet to meet a person that plays or does not play a game because of immersion. Entertainment yes, Immersion not so much.
Many people play to be immersed in the game world - it's why they make a themed game world in the first place. However, immersion is bound to be broken at some point. As soon as you look at your abilities to see which attack would do more damage in what situation, as soon as you bring up your in game chat box, an ui menu, etc - so that allow isn't necessarily a strong reason to stop playing any particular game.
I have yet to meet a person that plays or does not play a game because of immersion. Entertainment yes, Immersion not so much.
Many people play to be immersed in the game world - it's why they make a themed game world in the first place. However, immersion is bound to be broken at some point. As soon as you look at your abilities to see which attack would do more damage in what situation, as soon as you bring up your in game chat box, an ui menu, etc - so that allow isn't necessarily a strong reason to stop playing any particular game.
Yea reading a book or paper & pen games give good immersion and maybe throw in a well made SP game. But mmo's tend to break very early in the game. Back ground stories and quest lines just don't cut it.
Only one's that may get immersion out of a mmo is the RP crowd.
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Big weapons are not necessarily heavy. It depends on what kind of metal its made of and what kind of enchantments it, or it's wielder, possess.
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Its your lucky day!
They are actually re-writing a lot of the quests for western release. In fact they are changing s**t loads of stuff just to make us westerners happy!
Just need to get rid of the silly girly running animation, high heels and the ridiculous Popori, and they'll probably double their subscription numbers!
If you haven't already seen these, some nice official envrinoment videos(720p)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig3gTmzElNo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh8ZgXgvTig&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la3qXB11z2U&feature=related
Oh, and one last thing. Rift: Planes of Telara runs on the Gamebryo engine, which is what DAOC runs on.
I think someone made the point of the graphics engine being to old.
It does well and truly boggle my mind that certain people get so obsessed with sword sizes. If I were a Freudian I might have some theories on that, but luckily I'm not.
I do wonder how they can get so annoyed over an artistic interpretation. I would advise, however, you stay well away from abstract art museums for the sake of your own health. Just a suggestion.
The morning sun has vanquished the horrible night.
There are a few other factors at work here also. The weapons are not sized for each race (A baraka & Popori will have the same size weapon even though the baraka is much larger).
The reason is because every weapon has got to have the same reach for what ever the weapon is rated for. You can't scale down an axe to 3m in order to fit a popori if the weapon is rated at say 6m.
So the weapon is gonna look crazy big on smaller races (sword looks big on everyone besides Baraka). This might be the reason they MAY lock out some races to classes.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
All it matters is that graphics are top of the line at least for the mmo market.
Having only one game (AoC), which is actually 90% popular ONLY for its graphics to compare with the graphics of TERA is total bulls**t. Not to mention that TERA will be an fps game and MMORPGs with fps gameplay are not known for their amazing graphics, animations, models and everything that has to do with the visuals, but somehow TERA manages to have amazing graphics combined with fps combat.
I'm a huge fan of the asian art style, be it huge swords, axes and stuff or core things like character models.
I probably WOULD be in a debate of whether to play this or FFXIV, but for the shake of pvp this is what I'll (hopefully) get.
Considering that there are many anime conventions with huge turnout I would say that it is probably more the game play than the art design.
And I stand by my post about the eastern art design being representative of more than just "a hunk of metal".
It's very representative. There is also quite an interesting traditon when ti comes to eastern art that most likely has something to do with the evolution of their art design in games.
I also read where having large eyes was actually started by one anime artist who was influenced by cartoon characters like Betty Boop. Reason being, he felt that a greater range of expression could be created using this technique.
The problem is that westerners can't see the forest from the trees. they are too literal, at least in their approach to understanding eastern art design in games.
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Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Hey Sovrath, is Terra really Lineage 3 with a new name?
Well, that's a very good question.
We do know that a decent amount of bluehole designers were NC Soft employees who left enmasse. We also know that at some point, NC soft was not happy with where Lineage 3 was going so decided to try another way. Did this piss off the team only to have them leave and make a new game? Did they take their work with them?
I also believe NC is (was?) suing bluehole and did win a civil suit which was then going to be appealed. Apparently some of the new Tera people tried to get new investment and disclosed some of the technologies that Lineage 3 was supposed to have and that they were going to use in Tera. In the end only the people involved know. I do know that NC is now designing their own engine to be used with Lineage 3. In any case here is some mention of the suit:
http://girlscangame.blogspot.com/ (oh, and 2 billion won is a bit over 1.6 million dollars.)
The Story:
In terms of Lineage 3's code disclosure lawsuit, the South Korean court has recently ruled that the 4 core developers of Lineage 3 (including the former development director) and their current employer Bluehole Studio should compensate NCsoft by 2 billion Wons.
This is the civil ruling, following the criminal one in which the core developers of Bluehole Studio were found guilty (on Jun. 26, 2009, the Seoul Central District Court sentenced the former development director of Lineage 3 - Mr. Park to a fixed-term imprisonment of one and a half years with a 2-year suspension of execution for malfeasance and disclosure of business secrets). According to Bluehole Studio, they're not satisfied with the judgement, and will lodge an appeal immediately.
On Jan. 28, the civil department of the Seoul Central District Court rendered a verdict and required the 4 involved defendants including Mr. Park to compensate NCsoft by 2 billion Wons. Meanwhile, the defendants were also ordered not to disclose NCsoft's business secrets to any others, but clear up all related data in hand.
Though at present, NCsoft wins the lawsuit no matter in the criminal judgement or in the civil one, it's still unknown if the MMORPG TERA under development by Bluehole Studio will be fatally affected.
Mr. Park, formerly in charge of Lineage 3's development, got in touch with a Japanese company in 2006 with the aim of attracting investment, and disclosed certain plans related to Lineage 3. Mr. Bae, who was responsible for other projects at that time, was also involved in this matter. Moreover, the former developers of Lineage 3 including Mr. Kang and Mr. Yo switched over to Bluehole Studio after the cancelation of Lineage 3, and applied certain technologies originally adopted in the development of Lineage 3 in Bluehole Studio's new project - Project S1 (currently named TERA) Story from: MMOsite
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Yeah I kind of heard about some of that and saw some old videos on you tube of lineage 3 and looked an awful lot like Terra. Also heard a rumor that the original L3 code had been stolen and tagged with the Terra name. I didn't realize they were still on for an Lineage 3 though. Thanks good info there man!
this is called Fantasy...
Screw those puny swords in the screenshot, I want swords so large they can't even be seen fully on one screen! Fantasy right?
Dude why are you raging so much....You don't care for the game, fine we get it.
Move on to a game that you really like. Because no one likes a troll.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
You call that raging? Man, people are too sensitive. In my original post, I said I would like the game to succeed. I will most likely give the game a try. Heck, even I gave Aion a try. But within the first 5 minutes of playing I knew that game was garbage
. All this leads up to having a discussion that doesn't completely involve rampant fanboi'ism. People get these super expectations of future games built up in their head like they are the best thing ever without even playing the game. Don't talk bad or critique my future game, that's blasphemy!
I played AOC and i think Tera has better if not on par looks. As far as other things they are just icing on the cake.....ie dx10 godrays, shadows and such.
Tera has a huge western staff as well thats is there to development story, quest and tweak it more for a western player base.
I find it funny that they had to make a seperate Western design staff to actually make content. How the Asians can sit their mindlessly grinding away to advance with no skill or depth to the game amazes me.
You gotta understand this game is made for the east market and the weeaboos on the west. Just like Aion only weeaboos will support the over-sized weapons, character screaming like 10 year old girls etc...
If Tera is Lineage 3 - we can expect heavy grind.
I have no problem with heavy grind.
I do have problem with booring heavy grind.
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i want the sword so large that the sword swings the weilder as a weapon.
you played WoW.
hmm...
Haha, I like that idea. In Soviet Russia, sword swings You!
This is the only problem I have with this game as well. Seeing a 90 lbs female (or male for that matter) wielding a 200 lbs axe just kills immersion for me. Other than that I can't wait.
I have yet to meet a person that plays or does not play a game because of immersion. Entertainment yes, Immersion not so much.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Many people play to be immersed in the game world - it's why they make a themed game world in the first place. However, immersion is bound to be broken at some point. As soon as you look at your abilities to see which attack would do more damage in what situation, as soon as you bring up your in game chat box, an ui menu, etc - so that allow isn't necessarily a strong reason to stop playing any particular game.
Yea reading a book or paper & pen games give good immersion and maybe throw in a well made SP game. But mmo's tend to break very early in the game. Back ground stories and quest lines just don't cut it.
Only one's that may get immersion out of a mmo is the RP crowd.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...