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The Cost of Characters

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  • AldersAlders Member RarePosts: 2,207

    With the retainer system, most people won't even need a second character slot.

     

    The ones that do, will be purchasing a second account so they can duel box. I don't think i played with anyone in the later years of XI that didn't duel box and i can see that trend continuing.

  • NesrieNesrie Member Posts: 648

    Originally posted by bloodaxes

    You seem to forget that with only 1 character and the one were you can sell items on the monthly fee is 3 $ less then AAA  monthly fees.

    So getting another slot makes it the same price of the modern p2p games.

     I've seen this claim a few times, so I think it's time to disspell it because it's not true. There are Triple A titles that allow you to spend as low as 9.99 a month if not less than that because of multiple month purchasing. There hasn't been only 15 a month pay plan for a lot of games these days.

    parrotpholk-Because we all know the miracle patch fairy shows up the night before release and sprinkles magic dust on the server to make it allllll better.

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    If its anything like FFXI, one character will be enough for me.

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • ProfRedProfRed Member UncommonPosts: 3,495

    Game is designed around having 1 character.  If you don't like that there are plenty of games that promote rolling alts due to lack of content out there.  I love it because it's part of why the game is only 12.99 a month.

  • VoltlivesVoltlives Member Posts: 280

    Most of these "extra costs" complaints are coming from folks that never played FFXI, this is old news and expected with the game make up.  You are not entitled to millions of character slots, you are entitled to what the game offers.  The way FFXI was designed you basically with the flick of a switch could relevel your character as other professions.  There was no real need for other slots.  Once you unlocked other jobs you had upwards of 10 to 15 classes to level.  It's ok to think outside the box, we can help you through this difficult transition.

     

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  • june32ndjune32nd Member Posts: 122

    Originally posted by Senadina

    Isn't anyone else outraged at having to pay an additional $3.00 a month, every month for EACH character beyond the first? This is just UNACCEPTABLE to me, and a game I was looking forward to I will no longer be playing.

    And yes, I understand that 1 character can do everything, but these MMOs are ostensibly role-playing games, and I like to play many alt personalities. Not to mention wanting to play ALL the races at least once.

    Anyone else feel this is a gamebreaker? Cause I sure do.

    you are no longer going to play a game you've never played?

    on one hand i want to say okay, peace, we wont miss you. you and the people not playing cause they can't jump. and i find it funny that people think their angry is so important that a statement such as this makes the devs go wait. let's change this. You might as well make a twitter.

    on the other hand. the monthly sub is less than a normal sub. so if you buy one extra person than your paying the same amount you do for the other p2p mmos. i just don't get it. nothing about about this is gamebreaking. gamebreaking is something that breaks the game such as a bugged quest or a glitch in a raid boss. something that stops someone from moving farther in the game is a gamebreaker.

    with that said the interenet is free to use by all people and each person can have their own.  there really is nothing anyone can say or even discuss with you about said your post cause it's not really open for discussion it just mainly seems like your ranting and because of that you feel like everyone here should know.

     

    my advice is to not play the game. instead of making a post explaining why your not playing just don't play. maybe SE will changed this but i doubt it and if you really not going to play a game because you have to be stuck playing one toon at 12 bucks a month or buy another toon for the standard AAA price of 15 dollars than your shouldn't play this game. there are numerous other p2p / f2p games that are out there to find one that fit your personal play style.

    try lotro, wow, war, aion, aoc, blah blah any of those or the millions of f2p

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  • bartillobartillo Member UncommonPosts: 190

    its $13 a month default.. you get one playable char and one mule char.

     

    $1 more a month per extra mules.

     

    $3 for playable.

     

    You only need one playable, if its like ffxi you will need mules though

  • kramsterkramster Member UncommonPosts: 93

    Originally posted by june32nd

    Originally posted by Senadina

    Isn't anyone else outraged at having to pay an additional $3.00 a month, every month for EACH character beyond the first? This is just UNACCEPTABLE to me, and a game I was looking forward to I will no longer be playing.

    And yes, I understand that 1 character can do everything, but these MMOs are ostensibly role-playing games, and I like to play many alt personalities. Not to mention wanting to play ALL the races at least once.

    Anyone else feel this is a gamebreaker? Cause I sure do.

     

    my advice is to not play the game. instead of making a post explaining why your not playing just don't play.

    try lotro, wow, war, aion, aoc, blah blah any of those or the millions of f2p

     So it is no longer acceptable to post or debate negative views on games on a forum that is part of a site that 'discusses' or shockingly....debate said games?

    The question regarding character slot price is a valid discussion point in my opinion...unless this particular game is exempt from the normal open discussion policy of this site?

    It is great to be a fan of a game and to enjoy it to the full, but not so cool to try to silence reasonable criticism

  • EmhsterEmhster Member UncommonPosts: 913

    I think we are being forced into being altoholic with the current games available due to lack of proper content to explore, especially once you reach end game content. I dont think it will be the case with FFXIV as your journey is going to be rich in experience, and reaching end game is going to take much longer than most released games, from what I understand.

    This being said, I see a lot of negative comments regarding altoholic. Most of my friends are altoholic, and none of them are creating new avatars to hide their past sins. It is just a mean to revisit content or to explore a different class.

  • elockeelocke Member UncommonPosts: 4,335


    Originally posted by kramster

    Originally posted by june32nd

    Originally posted by Senadina
    Isn't anyone else outraged at having to pay an additional $3.00 a month, every month for EACH character beyond the first? This is just UNACCEPTABLE to me, and a game I was looking forward to I will no longer be playing.
    And yes, I understand that 1 character can do everything, but these MMOs are ostensibly role-playing games, and I like to play many alt personalities. Not to mention wanting to play ALL the races at least once.
    Anyone else feel this is a gamebreaker? Cause I sure do.
     
    my advice is to not play the game. instead of making a post explaining why your not playing just don't play.
    try lotro, wow, war, aion, aoc, blah blah any of those or the millions of f2p


     So it is no longer acceptable to post or debate negative views on games on a forum that is part of a site that 'discusses' or shockingly....debate said games?
    The question regarding character slot price is a valid discussion point in my opinion...unless this particular game is exempt from the normal open discussion policy of this site?
    It is great to be a fan of a game and to enjoy it to the full, but not so cool to try to silence reasonable criticism

    Ever hear the saying "If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all."?

    Perhaps if you presented your "debate" with a bit less "anger" and a bit more constructive, albeit negative, criticism, people might take you seriously and give you the "debate" you seek. At this point though, you just spouted off how you "felt" as if you are entitled some type of recognition for your "feelings".

    Anyway, on topic, FFXI was FINE with this setup and FFXIV will be fine. If you are an altaholic, which I myself am as well, you can still be one by switching jobs by the simple result of switching weapon types. I personally roll alts for the difference in class, not so much the difference in race.

  • Hrayr2148Hrayr2148 Member Posts: 649

    Originally posted by Senadina

    Isn't anyone else outraged at having to pay an additional $3.00 a month, every month for EACH character beyond the first? This is just UNACCEPTABLE to me, and a game I was looking forward to I will no longer be playing.

    And yes, I understand that 1 character can do everything, but these MMOs are ostensibly role-playing games, and I like to play many alt personalities. Not to mention wanting to play ALL the races at least once.

    Anyone else feel this is a gamebreaker? Cause I sure do.

     

    Did you ever play FFXI past the first month of release?  Did you ever get an advanced job?

     

    If your'e in the WoW mindset of having 8 characters each on five servers, then NO, FFXIV is NOT for you.  But if you want to play a game were one character CAN BE EVERY CLASS IN THE GAME, then pick FFXIV.

     

    Here's another idea for ya.... In FFXIV, you mix and match abilities and make hybrid classes.  Do you want to relevel each class to make a hybrid just because you want the "skin" on your character to be the only difference?

     

    FFXIV costs $12.99 a month.... two dollars less than most MMO'S out right now.  If you want to have an additional character, it will make the net cost of your subscription a WHOPPING $15.99.

     

    For those of us who've played FFXI and WoW, I personally prefer the FFXI/FFXIV method.  With one character I can experience all the content rather than redoing the same content.  In addition, you get more attached to your toon because that one represents your reputation on the server, which contributes to a better community.

     

    The goods from the FFXIV system far outweigh the bad.  If you're outraged by this model, than that's all you in failing to think outside what you've been spoon fed by every other mmo on the market.

     

    Thank goodness SE isn't listening to people who have no idea what FFXIV is all about.

  • MariouzMariouz Member Posts: 186

    Do I like the whole have to pay extra for another character? Nope I do not. Do I like the whole idea of being able to play every job without needing alts to do so? Heck yeah. So with that said the second question negates the first, since I can do it all with one character I am good with what SE Is offering in FFXIV. Now unlike a lot of the other MMO's you only really have 5 races, so at most you would really need 5 character slots total if you must play all the races. In WoW I have a total of 21 alts, if I could do every job with just 1, then I would have at max 2 characters, 1 that I play on alliance side and 1 that I play on the horde side. Heck I love to have a Cow Lock or Rogue, or a Draenai that can play every class and swtich between them at will.

  • NytakitoNytakito Member Posts: 381

    Nope, not a game breaker for me.  I'll pick my race based on what I feel looks best, and go from there and never look back, much like I did in FFXI.  Wasn't a game breaker then, won't be now.

    For those who it is a game breaker for.. I can tell you aren't FF Fans, cause if you were, you would have played XI, and thus not be concerned about it.

    Have fun chasing your next fail of a game; I'll be enjoying XIV for years to come.

    "If I'd asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have said a faster horse." - Henry Ford

  • popinjaypopinjay Member Posts: 6,539

    At the end of the day, it's still only... 3 dollars.


    Even someone on welfare could afford to pay $3 a month for an extra toon.

  • aluucardsaluucards Member Posts: 36

    Originally posted by popinjay

    At the end of the day, it's still only... 3 dollars.



    Even someone on welfare could afford to pay $3 a month for an extra toon.

    ^ This.

     

    If that is too much for you than pick a new hobby. They are a business just like anyone else they are going to do what they think will make them more successful. So don't be crying about them being greedy. I love when people do that. It is like they have no idea how the world goes round.

  • eburneburn Member Posts: 740



    Originally posted by Hrayr2148


    Originally posted by Senadina
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     For those of us who've played FFXI and WoW, I personally prefer the FFXI/FFXIV method.  With one character I can experience all the content rather than redoing the same content. 
    The goods from the FFXIV system far outweigh the bad.  If you're outraged by this model, than that's all you in failing to think outside what you've been spoon fed by every other mmo on the market.

    What exactly is the logic behind any of this? How would rolling an alt cause people to miss any of the content within a game?

    Also, you're really expecting XIV to not be a spoon fed style game?

    I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    Originally posted by eburn

     






    Originally posted by Hrayr2148





    Originally posted by Senadina

    /snip





     For those of us who've played FFXI and WoW, I personally prefer the FFXI/FFXIV method.  With one character I can experience all the content rather than redoing the same content. 

    The goods from the FFXIV system far outweigh the bad.  If you're outraged by this model, than that's all you in failing to think outside what you've been spoon fed by every other mmo on the market.




     

    What exactly is the logic behind any of this? How would rolling an alt cause people to miss any of the content within a game?

    Also, you're really expecting XIV to not be a spoon fed style game?

     it wont be mayeb lil more thanw hat ffxi was but It wont be like WOW and its other clones

  • june32ndjune32nd Member Posts: 122

    Originally posted by gauge2k3

    What's funny is, everyone here will pay it lol.... Just like WoW, you will complain about it and do nothing with your wallets to change it.

    thats part of the point my post was getting at. OP is complaining and says he's not going to play, when we all know he's gunna to buy it, install it, play it, and pay for it. and bitch the entire time about how he's spending 25 duckets a month for having all these alts and it's unfair.

     

    people all over the place do this. regardless of forums or game, it's the oddest things humans do.

     

    that's why twitter was made, to make people think that what they do is important enough to have others care to read it.

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  • DisdenaDisdena Member UncommonPosts: 1,093

    I'm confused as to why they charge so much extra for more character slots. Surely the storage costs for having an alt (or 5) on file are next to nonexistant even when multiplied by a million subscribers... there's no financial burden that I can see in allowing players to have several characters.

    Is this $3 fee meant to deliberately steer people away from rolling several alts? If so, why? Or is this a way of "nickle-and-diming" players by charging for a perk that a handful of players consider vital to their enjoyment but most others consider nice but unnecessary?

    I'm really not affected by it at all since I never plan on using more than the included 1 slot + 1 mule. If anything, I'm thrilled that they found a way to only charge me $13/mo without harming their own bottom line. I'm just confused by it is all.

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  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    Originally posted by Disdena

    I'm confused as to why they charge so much extra for more character slots. Surely the storage costs for having an alt (or 5) on file are next to nonexistant even when multiplied by a million subscribers... there's no financial burden that I can see in allowing players to have several characters.

    Is this $3 fee meant to deliberately steer people away from rolling several alts? If so, why? Or is this a way of "nickle-and-diming" players by charging for a perk that a handful of players consider vital to their enjoyment but most others consider nice but unnecessary?

    I'm really not affected by it at all since I never plan on using more than the included 1 slot + 1 mule. If anything, I'm thrilled that they found a way to only charge me $13/mo without harming their own bottom line. I'm just confused by it is all.

     you dont NEED A PLAYABLE ALT so there not nickle and diming you

  • Hrayr2148Hrayr2148 Member Posts: 649

    Originally posted by eburn

     






    Originally posted by Hrayr2148






    Originally posted by Senadina

    /snip





     For those of us who've played FFXI and WoW, I personally prefer the FFXI/FFXIV method.  With one character I can experience all the content rather than redoing the same content. 

    The goods from the FFXIV system far outweigh the bad.  If you're outraged by this model, than that's all you in failing to think outside what you've been spoon fed by every other mmo on the market.




    What exactly is the logic behind any of this? How would rolling an alt cause people to miss any of the content within a game?

    Also, you're really expecting XIV to not be a spoon fed style game?

    I apologize if I didn't explain it well enough.

    In other games, alts are free because that is the only way you can play another class.  By necessity, you need alts in order to experience ALL that the game offers.  So, when 99% of MMO's have alts for free, it's out of necessity, not because it's the better method.

     

    In FFXIV, you can experience the ENTIRE game with one character.  That includes every single class.  Here's another cool thing.  Let's say a Bind on Pickup item is for lvl 30.  You have 4-5 classes that can use it because it allocates states perfectly to those classes (i.e. melee).  Then, when one character outgrows that awesome armor, your other class can also wear it when it reaches 30.

     

    In WoW... that's not possible because the BoP is bound to each character.  In FFXIV, you are the same character.  So therefore, you don't have to buy/quest for that item again, since you already did it for another class.

     

    There's less overlap, less repitition, and more enjoyment since leveling up on class has bonuses for the other classes you decide to level up.

     

    I PERSONALLY feel that the character/class system was the BEST part of FFXI.  I love that SE decided to keep it for FFXIV.

  • worldspin85worldspin85 Member Posts: 187

    Nope but it really sucks tho that is kinda outrageous !!!! but ill still be playing

  • june32ndjune32nd Member Posts: 122

    Originally posted by kramster

    Originally posted by june32nd


    Originally posted by Senadina

    Isn't anyone else outraged at having to pay an additional $3.00 a month, every month for EACH character beyond the first? This is just UNACCEPTABLE to me, and a game I was looking forward to I will no longer be playing.

    And yes, I understand that 1 character can do everything, but these MMOs are ostensibly role-playing games, and I like to play many alt personalities. Not to mention wanting to play ALL the races at least once.

    Anyone else feel this is a gamebreaker? Cause I sure do.

     

    my advice is to not play the game. instead of making a post explaining why your not playing just don't play.

    try lotro, wow, war, aion, aoc, blah blah any of those or the millions of f2p

     So it is no longer acceptable to post or debate negative views on games on a forum that is part of a site that 'discusses' or shockingly....debate said games?

    The question regarding character slot price is a valid discussion point in my opinion...unless this particular game is exempt from the normal open discussion policy of this site?

    It is great to be a fan of a game and to enjoy it to the full, but not so cool to try to silence reasonable criticism

    ah, you didn't read the entire post. if you did you'd know that i explained that the internet was free for all to talk and discuss yadda yadda. you cut that part out of the quote so your statement would have more sting.

    the point was not to say he's voice shouldn't be heard, but he did nothing to encourage discussion just complained and bitched. he came here to make a post of rants about how he ain't playing the game because he's got to pay 3 dollars for a for extra toons slots because he wants to play ALL races at once. the whole post was, i don't like this feature i'm not playing. i think it's unacceptible, anyone else? cause i think it is. that's not a discussion starter that's complaining and trying to find the people who have the same complaints. so he made an entire thread to have people who feel the same way as him to come in and complain and be angry about. there was no healthy discussing in the OP

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  • GravargGravarg Member UncommonPosts: 3,424

    FFXI is the only game I've ever been able to only keep on one character.  I actually love this.  In most games I either end up getting every class/race combination to mid levels then quit, or I get them all them to max level and spend more time switching characters than I do playing.  I had a mule character in FFXI, but it takes so long to get a character going, it's not worth leveling up but one character only.

  • NesrieNesrie Member Posts: 648

    Originally posted by Gravarg

    FFXI is the only game I've ever been able to only keep on one character.  I actually love this.  In most games I either end up getting every class/race combination to mid levels then quit, or I get them all them to max level and spend more time switching characters than I do playing.  I had a mule character in FFXI, but it takes so long to get a character going, it's not worth leveling up but one character only.

     It's fine if that is what is intended and most people choose to do so which is different than nickle and diming players who might choose a different path.

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