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Will PS3 doom the future of FFXIV?
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FFXI was absolutely terrible with all the players poping in and out because the game was built for the ps2 and not the pc, it had no where near enough processing power to just have everything on the screen at once so they dumbed it down,some of you so called gamers dont know what a real game is if you thought ffxi was fine
However, sqenix now knows that the pc users will be their main subscription base so they are actually going to try this time around and make a pc version that isent just a crappy port, the pc version already is made with a hotbar with custom keybinds, better graphics, and better controls all beit still crappy sluggish controller oriented type of controlls
A lot of people shifted over to PC from PS2, yes.
You still need to get them to play in the first place however, and PS3 is the optimal platform for that, considering all FF's have been released on the playstation.
They just need to bring the FF fans over to XIV. That is their target demographic.
Actually its the majority, by far.
The whole point of beta is to remove bugs and tweak gameplay into something ejoyable. So I'll keep by beta account thanks. At least people who actually want this to be a decent game instead of the pile it currently is, are providing valid feedback and not putting blinkers on. If the beta was full of fanbois, it would be an even bigger flop. Lets hope they really are working hard behind the scences, and make this game into something that will be popular.
It is not their target demographic. FF XI players are simply a part of it, which doesn't actually boad well for XI. How many times do they have to state this?
nah the doom of FF has nothing to do with the playstation. its gone progressively downhill since FF8
It is. It makes the most sense to pull your players from the existing fanbase rather than to try to create a new one. In this case, FFXI players are a part of it, but much bigger potential lies within the console fanbase. Millions of potential subscribers right there.
Why bother with trying to steal players away from other MMO's when you're sitting on a goldmine?
LOL, no its not. They've even state such. They want to widen the audiance. The existing fanbase, is only part of the demographic. Their stand alone games, are also way more popular.
The FF XI playerbase is not a gold mine. Its at 350k world wide (down from 500k, in the last year), with very few of them being in the West.
Reading comprehension is fun!
I never stated FFXI players are the goldmine. The 5,5million players who bought FFXIII are the goldmine. That is the audience they want to cater to.
Last time they got 500k followers out of that fanbase... who knows what's next in the era of internet and mainstream MMO's.
Console players are a different demographic. MMOs players are by far PC users (even if they also play console games), which their MMOs don't stand up to in quaility. Sorry, but theirs no goldmine anywhere. Its also most likely why they want to widen the audience appeal.
Because most MMO's are for PC. lol@ at saying there is no goldmine when there is a clear niche waiting to be fulfilled, and that is a console MMO.
For one a niche isn't a goldmine, and niche is exactly what it will be on the PS3. Very few MMOs players will be interested in playing it on that format.
What we are most likely to see are impressive box sales, for both formats, then a quick die-out of subscriptions.
I'm still not talking about MMO players here, try to read for once.
If you're not saying FF players are MMO players, which they for the most part are not.
WoW is full of MMO players who weren't MMO players in the first place. You don't have to appeal to MMO players to get a great fanbase in the millions- Blizzard proved that long ago. You just need followers and proper marketing practice.
At least FF players are familiar with games, and RPG's in general. Transition to MMORPG is not as big deal as from an RTS game or Wii Sports or something.
You can deny it but that's how it is. SE wants those 5,5 million players to play this game too. And it is possible to do so. The proof is everywhere around you.
While there are many a bad thing that can be said about WoW, it is at least a quality product. Something that can't be said about SE's MMOs. They are extremely dated in their design, falling way below what the average MMO player would expect these days. FF XIV is even sub-standard if it were one of their single player games. While that doesn't mean it can't be fun, for a while, it does mean people won't stick to playing due to its poor (and dated) mechanics.
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Actually I'm not a hater, at least of what the game could be. More of a fan, that feels let down.
On topic! The PS3 version won't doom FF XIV, as its heading that way without it.
I'm confused what does this have to do with the PS3 or FFXIV being on it?
PS3 runs an nVidia graphics chip specially made for the system, stuck somewhere between a geforce 7900gtx and a geforce 8800gt. Immensely scalable though, as games have proven since it's release.
Furthermore, the core PS3 OS is built on a variant of unix, it runs Blu-Ray games (which can occupy up to 26gb on one disc) and the smallest PS3 being sold now is 60gb. I doubt that FFXIV will even be a minor nuisance storage-wise when it comes out.
Your arguments are invalid and you don't know the system you're ragging on. Furthermore, if this was on 360, you'd have to pay 15$ a month just to pay ANOTHER 15$ a month to play.
It has to do with the quaility/design of FF XIV, regarless of format. Hence, why it being on the PS3 is going to make no difference.
So its admittedly off topic, as the topic is how FFXIV being on the PS3 will effect its success.
In my opinion it will only add to its success, having more options to play something on allows for a larger audience potential, and as the game is being developed independantly for the PS3 and the PC its quality won't stuffer on the PC just to make it compaitble with the PS3's version. More people having the ABILITY to play the game will mean more ACTUAL subscribers for them. Couldn't be a bad move in any way shape or form.
No, its on topic. This thread is about if the PS3 version will doom the future of FF XIV. It won't, as what people have seen isn't liked by the majority anyway. Neither does it stand up against that people expect (quality wise) from MMOs these days.
So your verdict is: PS3 version is doomed, because PC players don't like the beta version of the game.
Well, can't really argue with such overwhelming logic.
No, if you read back I said the PS3 version had a higher chance of being popular than the PC version. I did however say it would still be niche, due to the majority of MMO players wanting to play the PC version.
Okay, and by using what logic did you come to the conclusion I italized? Like I have said few times now, SE does not need MMO players to become mainstream.
You are just being silly, and persisting in your off topic ness. Saying "The game is doomed so it won't mater if it has a PS3 version." Is off topic because its not about what you think the game will do over all, its asking specifically if the PS3 will HELP or HURT the game, and you do not answer that question a single time, you merely say "it will fail anyway."
I would love to dispute your reasoning as to why you think this game will fail but that too is off topic!
Again, adding a PS3 version to ANY MMO would increase its potential audience and add to its subscription base, there are people who don't own PC's or like keyboards much and would love to play online games on a console, giving them the option would only increase subscription numbers.
Its common sense, more potential customers = more customers over all. The question is will it be worth it for them financially or will it be ultimately not popular enough on the PS3 to make the development worth the commitment they made. Either way they'll follow through.
Hopefully it does well on both platforms, the one thing u all keep missing with arguing bout what platform will do better is the more it sells the better for all of us Console or PC. For all of us that can afford a powerful PC to play games on thats fine, but the state of the economy and with many people not having much extra money to spend these companies would be stupid to make games only accessible to people with the most money to spend. Some actually think its a waste of time to buy a PC just to have some games with better graphics. That is why the so called MMO destroyer Wow that people hate on does so well and the same reason Bioware is using the stylized art direction. Expensive PCs are not feasible for most people and the best thing for both the companies and the players is to have it where more people can enjoy it, cause deep down no matter how many egos it hurts. Its all bout the money and the smart companies are gonna go for the smart solution and put the game on systems everyone can enjoy even if it hurts some feelings. There is nothing wrong with playing games on the console.
Applications for MMO guilds??? Sorry not that pathetic just yet
Because the quaility in the product isn't there. The console (only) players are going to compair it to one of the single player games and just think what the hell is this POS.
I'm also not refering to its state in beta, or even at launch. Simply its fundamental design.