It looks amazing but as mentioned before so did the Aion trailer.Everything shown the Aion trailer was ingame o/in-engine that was obvious but did it ever make it into the game so far and after all this time? The awnser is no
It does not matter 1 bit who is the dev it is the publisher that stages these things.Devteams jump through hoops to keep their publisher (AKA: the hand that feeds them) happy.But i do hope that this time they actually do deliver.
And that dragon coming from the sky is NOT FAKE! It will happen.
Santa comes down the chimeney, he really does!! Its NOT FAKE, it really happens!!
In GW Santa comes down the chimney in the form of Grenth and Dwayna. In GW2 santa comes n the form of a dragon that wants to give you epic lewts... wait till gamescom, hear the impressions and also see the gameplay for yourself.
Awesome trailer! Like I said it may bring back some of the magic that MMOs lost when it took over in place of D&D PnP. I will be buying this and SWTOR. Why you say? Why not? It's not like GW2 is gonna be charging me a sub for it. Once I buy it I own it and I don't have to worry about "catching up". So I will play SWTOR with my buddies first, then relax to some GW2 in my downtime......kill another MMORPG....don't make me laugh....that's like sayng the release of Deus Ex2 will kill Portal 2.....retarded prediction at best. Unless I'm limited to one game per lifetime.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
all the talk about Aion visions trailer should stop...
aion 3.0 was what ncsoft dreamed of coming into aion in the distant future, they said so themselves
This manifesto trailer is all gameplay and ingame skills that will be avaible on release, there is no hope or dreaming going on here, its all cold hard GW2
"Is that why NCsoft's website doesn't even have a GW2 section?"
I don't think they will bother till Guild wars 2 is actually released, and it hardly matters since gw2 has its own website
Actually no that's not how it works. The people who may do that would be NCsoft west which is mostly comprised of former A-Net staff anyway. NCsoft's purpose has and always will be to just provide the funds. A-Net doesn't even answer directly to them but to NCsoft west which as I said before is mostly comprised of former A-net staff. A-net develop and promote their own game.
Awesome trailer! Like I said it may bring back some of the magic that MMOs lost when it took over in place of D&D PnP. I will be buying this and SWTOR. Why you say? Why not? It's not like GW2 is gonna be charging me a sub for it. Once I buy it I own it and I don't have to worry about "catching up". So I will play SWTOR with my buddies first, then relax to some GW2 in my downtime......kill another MMORPG....don't make me laugh....that's like sayng the release of Deus Ex2 will kill Portal 2.....retarded prediction at best. Unless I'm limited to one game per lifetime.
It might not kill the game, but it might be the one you end up spending more of your time with.
Actually no that's not how it works. The people who may do that would be NCsoft west which is mostly comprised of former A-Net staff anyway. NCsoft's purpose has and always will be to just provide the funds. A-Net doesn't even answer directly to them but to NCsoft west which as I said before is mostly comprised of former A-net staff. A-net develop and promote their own game.
I dont see what you are trying to say here, we where just talking about why gw2 isnt on the website...??
and FYI guild wars 1 is on the website, so please dont tell me thats not how it works, neither of us are ncsoft employees
Actually no that's not how it works. The people who may do that would be NCsoft west which is mostly comprised of former A-Net staff anyway. NCsoft's purpose has and always will be to just provide the funds. A-Net doesn't even answer directly to them but to NCsoft west which as I said before is mostly comprised of former A-net staff. A-net develop and promote their own game.
I dont see what you are trying to say here, we where just talking about why gw2 isnt on the website...??
and FYI guild wars 1 is on the website, so please dont tell me thats not how it works, neither of us are ncsoft employees
Sorry wasn't actually replying to you but the person you were talking to. Wasn't talking about the website at all in fact.
"Is that why NCsoft's website doesn't even have a GW2 section?"
I don't think they will bother till Guild wars 2 is actually released, and it hardly matters since gw2 has its own website
That true. And the fact that NCsoft is the primary billing site for the games, whether its for billing on subscriptions like Aion or adding a game to your account.
Arena.net and Guildwar2.com is the primary advertising site.
other mmos can bow to guild wars. people saying it's all fake are just noobs with no reading done. And that dragon coming from the sky is NOT FAKE! It will happen. When they show gw2 demo those guys will shut up! arenanet doesn't release anything that hasn't already been implemented in the game! Earlier trailers were based on concept art done by arenanet's artists. Now they do actual gameplay trailers!
Anybody remember that Aion 3.0 trailer? Yea, that's what I thought.... Until I see it in the game I don't believe it... They made aion look like this epic game in the trailer and when the game came out it wasn't half as good as the trailer. Just more hype here nothing more nothing less...
Yea, Aion was a good game, but certainly not the game from the aion 3.0 trailer they all wanted you to believe it was. Looks like more handy work from ncsoft. Yea yea yea.. aranet my ass. Who's name is still on the box.
You are now aware of the fact that you never even played Aion 3.0 or the advertised content featured in the Vision trailer, hence the 3.0 trailer or Vision trailer never "fooled" you, unless it unintentionally did so because you where a fool in first place. You highly probably didnt even play 2.0 with the minor gfx updates. You probably didnt even play 1.9. Considering you didnt even know the trailer came out months AFTER the release, so becoming "falsely hyped up by the Vision trailer" before the game was released was impossible, I can only guess you didnt even play 1.5 before the vision trailer was released.
Thats like watching the GW2 trailer, then look at some Guildwars 1 gameplay and complain the trailer was just hype.
I did play 1.9 and was banned, so no I haven't played 2.0
I have a lvl 50 chanter....... I know the game and know what the trailer means. Does not change the fact that it is just a trailer.
"The world is all about you!" Sounds like instancing to me. That's not an MMO.
Your wrong, only the personal story is instanced...think of it like WoW instances or raids, learn more about the game before you assume its not an mmo....have you even read one interview?
Any instances are bad, more or less. WoW was the start of games calling themselves MMO that weren't really MMOs. And yes, I've read a lot about the game, so far its been all talk, and a few cinematic gameplay trailers.
Originally posted by hekimo
Originally posted by Garvon3
In fact, all of this video is just eye candy, and you guys are gobbling it up. They talk big, but so does every MMO thats in development. I fear this is going to be like many of the others. They pump up the hype wagon and show off cinematic trailers and reel the suckers in.
Your spewing uneducated misinformation, a large percent of the trailer was actually gameplay, that is characters using real skills that will be available upon release.
They may be using real skills, but those sure as hell aren't real in game camera angles and whatnot. The music, the camera shaking, and most of the graphics, are all done in a very "trailer" way. Are you meaning to tell me when you encounter a dragon in the game, everything will freeze and there will be a sweeping cinematic of it landing and a close up on it? Besides, like I said, the skills just have good animations. It's still more or less the same type of combat we've had for 12 years now, as far as I can tell.
This video had little to no information on it, yet everyone is screaming like Jesus has come again, over what, just graphics, seriously, just graphics.
what you forgot? LOL same style... hype it up, then don't deliver.
They never said that was gonna come out anytime soon and haven't they already started bringing some of those features in with Aion 2.0? You guys really need to do some reading....
I wouldn't know , after NCsoft banned me from Aion for no reason I have not kept up with the game anymore. Every time I look it up it just pisses me off, because I would still be playing and I woud be getting ready to enjoy some of this new content. I thought about buying the game over again, but damn that. Paying them for a game I should not have be banned from in the first place and then having to grind my way back to 50 asap so i can actually enjoy the new stuff.... Just not happening.
Yea, I do have a lil resentment toward NCsoft. I don't have a problem with aranet and it looks like a good game to be coming out that I hope I can enjoy for years to come. But I'm very concerned with the out of control bann hammer n*z*'ees they got over there.
I don't think NCSoft controls whether someone is banned from the game or not in Guild Wars. I'm pretty sure that's up to Anet. And Anet bans for botting, that much I know. So don't bot in Guild Wars, not a good idea. 3700 accounts were banned for botting a few months ago. But NCSoft is merely the publisher of the game, not the developer. Anet is the company that controls the rules of the game.
"The world is all about you!" Sounds like instancing to me. That's not an MMO.
Your wrong, only the personal story is instanced...think of it like WoW instances or raids, learn more about the game before you assume its not an mmo....have you even read one interview?
Any instances are bad, more or less. WoW was the start of games calling themselves MMO that weren't really MMOs. And yes, I've read a lot about the game, so far its been all talk, and a few cinematic gameplay trailers.
Originally posted by hekimo
Originally posted by Garvon3
In fact, all of this video is just eye candy, and you guys are gobbling it up. They talk big, but so does every MMO thats in development. I fear this is going to be like many of the others. They pump up the hype wagon and show off cinematic trailers and reel the suckers in.
Your spewing uneducated misinformation, a large percent of the trailer was actually gameplay, that is characters using real skills that will be available upon release.
They may be using real skills, but those sure as hell aren't real in game camera angles and whatnot. The music, the camera shaking, and most of the graphics, are all done in a very "trailer" way. Are you meaning to tell me when you encounter a dragon in the game, everything will freeze and there will be a sweeping cinematic of it landing and a close up on it? Besides, like I said, the skills just have good animations. It's still more or less the same type of combat we've had for 12 years now, as far as I can tell.
This video had little to no information on it, yet everyone is screaming like Jesus has come again, over what, just graphics, seriously, just graphics.
Gamescom is next week, PAX is in 3.... we'll wait and see..
"The world is all about you!" Sounds like instancing to me. That's not an MMO.
Your wrong, only the personal story is instanced...think of it like WoW instances or raids, learn more about the game before you assume its not an mmo....have you even read one interview?
Any instances are bad, more or less. WoW was the start of games calling themselves MMO that weren't really MMOs. And yes, I've read a lot about the game, so far its been all talk, and a few cinematic gameplay trailers.
Than dont play the game? if you think any instances are bad, go play a sandbox....
Originally posted by hekimo
Originally posted by Garvon3
In fact, all of this video is just eye candy, and you guys are gobbling it up. They talk big, but so does every MMO thats in development. I fear this is going to be like many of the others. They pump up the hype wagon and show off cinematic trailers and reel the suckers in.
Your spewing uneducated misinformation, a large percent of the trailer was actually gameplay, that is characters using real skills that will be available upon release.
(1)They may be using real skills, but those sure as hell aren't real in game camera angles and whatnot. The music, the camera shaking, and most of the graphics, are all done in a very "trailer" way. Are you meaning to tell me when you encounter a dragon in the game, everything will freeze and there will be a sweeping cinematic of it landing and a close up on it? Besides, like I said, the skills just have good animations.(2) It's still more or less the same type of combat we've had for 12 years now, as far as I can tell.
(3)This video had little to no information on it, yet everyone is screaming like Jesus has come again, over what, just graphics, seriously, just graphics.
(1) i cant tell you about the dragon because guess what, i havnt played the game :0
(2) fascinating chap, nobody said this game is redesigning the combat system...
Awesome trailer! Like I said it may bring back some of the magic that MMOs lost when it took over in place of D&D PnP. I will be buying this and SWTOR. Why you say? Why not? It's not like GW2 is gonna be charging me a sub for it. Once I buy it I own it and I don't have to worry about "catching up". So I will play SWTOR with my buddies first, then relax to some GW2 in my downtime......kill another MMORPG....don't make me laugh....that's like sayng the release of Deus Ex2 will kill Portal 2.....retarded prediction at best. Unless I'm limited to one game per lifetime.
It might not kill the game, but it might be the one you end up spending more of your time with.
Well I spend more time in life doing things other than playing video games, does that have any bearing on the fact that I still consider myself a dedicated gamer? All I'm saying that the "kill this mmo, kill that MMO argument" that the fanatics like to spew when they pledge holy allegiance to these temperary distractions of life need to be brought into perspective before they hurt themselves or worse another.
Sweet trailer I say! I'll definitely buy it. They I will play it. Then I will move on. But to praise all thee thy holy in our darkest hour.....no....that I will not participate in.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
LOVE IT.. I got tears in my eyes I'm not going to lie... I may be pathetic but oh well. This MMO is just shaping up to be everything I've ever hoped for. A few things:
00:48 - zoning via portals. there other screenshots of these portals and this portal is for sure leading outside the city gate.
01:08 - The girl on the bottom definately looks like a Mesmer.
02:02 - Also it looked liked Assassin was revealed in the concept art. I too do not think that is a Ranger with the black and white outfit duel weilding daggers.
02:55 - Really looks like a dwarf even if it's not.
03:02 - ArenaNet said people don't just stand there when we are given a quest.. but look at all the villagers just standing around stretching as their city burns lol. (not complaining.. it's just funny.)
03:29 - The way he is dressed I really think that Asura is an engineer. Not the one in the golem the one watching over the fight.
03:40 - The enemy rat throws a gernade. (It's an old video but I never noticed that before.)
03:59 - You can make out the look out of a ship.. implying that area is that area that is drained of water or Orr maybe?
let people who enjoy the game play gw2, and let people with stupidly high expectations ragequit and cry on the forums. Nobody at arenanet is saying this game will slaughter every mmo on the market, yes they are saying they are creating a kick ass innovative game that is trying something knew, but little kids are taking this in their own image and they are the ones to blame
I also struggle to know why people care so much about hype. The only thing people should worry about is if they themselves would enjoy the game. If it is hyped through the moon, so what.
For me it's only one reason really, community
This is an MMO and will have separate servers/worlds with a number of players on it, as time goes by some players leave and new ones arrive but the community persists... or as anyone that has played MMO's for at least the last 8 years or so has discovered if the number of players leaving is too high then the community suffers making the game a lot less fun to play. Server/World mergers, though sometimes necessary, tends to accentuate this. Even a very good game or one where things are improving dramatically will suffer from players leaving in large numbers, this is much more likely to happen with a very high hype level.
If the game sux it doesn't really matter, you're out $50-60 (or $120 if you got a second copy for the wife) but it's not the end of the world, if it's a good game that you could enjoy for years with online friends it does matter.
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"Is that why NCsoft's website doesn't even have a GW2 section?"
I don't think they will bother till Guild wars 2 is actually released, and it hardly matters since gw2 has its own website
It looks amazing but as mentioned before so did the Aion trailer.Everything shown the Aion trailer was ingame o/in-engine that was obvious but did it ever make it into the game so far and after all this time? The awnser is no
It does not matter 1 bit who is the dev it is the publisher that stages these things.Devteams jump through hoops to keep their publisher (AKA: the hand that feeds them) happy.But i do hope that this time they actually do deliver.
Yeah thats kinda true...but it also means they cannot just screw it up and release some easymoney BS...at least I think so
I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them
In GW Santa comes down the chimney in the form of Grenth and Dwayna. In GW2 santa comes n the form of a dragon that wants to give you epic lewts... wait till gamescom, hear the impressions and also see the gameplay for yourself.
This is not a game.
Awesome trailer! Like I said it may bring back some of the magic that MMOs lost when it took over in place of D&D PnP. I will be buying this and SWTOR. Why you say? Why not? It's not like GW2 is gonna be charging me a sub for it. Once I buy it I own it and I don't have to worry about "catching up". So I will play SWTOR with my buddies first, then relax to some GW2 in my downtime......kill another MMORPG....don't make me laugh....that's like sayng the release of Deus Ex2 will kill Portal 2.....retarded prediction at best. Unless I'm limited to one game per lifetime.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Holy crap this game just looks better and better as time goes on.
all the talk about Aion visions trailer should stop...
aion 3.0 was what ncsoft dreamed of coming into aion in the distant future, they said so themselves
This manifesto trailer is all gameplay and ingame skills that will be avaible on release, there is no hope or dreaming going on here, its all cold hard GW2
Actually no that's not how it works. The people who may do that would be NCsoft west which is mostly comprised of former A-Net staff anyway. NCsoft's purpose has and always will be to just provide the funds. A-Net doesn't even answer directly to them but to NCsoft west which as I said before is mostly comprised of former A-net staff. A-net develop and promote their own game.
It might not kill the game, but it might be the one you end up spending more of your time with.
This is not a game.
THAT WAS F IN AMAZIN
Do they have an est release date maybe.
Also will they have housing
DID I SAY
THAT WAS F IN AMAZIN
Sinn
I dont see what you are trying to say here, we where just talking about why gw2 isnt on the website...??
and FYI guild wars 1 is on the website, so please dont tell me thats not how it works, neither of us are ncsoft employees
Sorry wasn't actually replying to you but the person you were talking to. Wasn't talking about the website at all in fact.
That true. And the fact that NCsoft is the primary billing site for the games, whether its for billing on subscriptions like Aion or adding a game to your account.
Arena.net and Guildwar2.com is the primary advertising site.
I did play 1.9 and was banned, so no I haven't played 2.0
I have a lvl 50 chanter....... I know the game and know what the trailer means. Does not change the fact that it is just a trailer.
Any instances are bad, more or less. WoW was the start of games calling themselves MMO that weren't really MMOs. And yes, I've read a lot about the game, so far its been all talk, and a few cinematic gameplay trailers.
Wow such a great video, can't wait for GW2 to finally be installed in my computer
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I don't think NCSoft controls whether someone is banned from the game or not in Guild Wars. I'm pretty sure that's up to Anet. And Anet bans for botting, that much I know. So don't bot in Guild Wars, not a good idea. 3700 accounts were banned for botting a few months ago. But NCSoft is merely the publisher of the game, not the developer. Anet is the company that controls the rules of the game.
Gamescom is next week, PAX is in 3.... we'll wait and see..
This is not a game.
Well I spend more time in life doing things other than playing video games, does that have any bearing on the fact that I still consider myself a dedicated gamer? All I'm saying that the "kill this mmo, kill that MMO argument" that the fanatics like to spew when they pledge holy allegiance to these temperary distractions of life need to be brought into perspective before they hurt themselves or worse another.
Sweet trailer I say! I'll definitely buy it. They I will play it. Then I will move on. But to praise all thee thy holy in our darkest hour.....no....that I will not participate in.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Did look awesome cant wait to play it myself , Is guildwars 2 coming to game convention in germany gamescom this year btw?
“…get ready, because we’ve talked the talk, and now we’re going to walk the walk.” - Mike O'Brien
/threadovernow?
Can't people just enjoy a cool video?
yes, yes it is
LOVE IT.. I got tears in my eyes I'm not going to lie... I may be pathetic but oh well. This MMO is just shaping up to be everything I've ever hoped for. A few things:
00:48 - zoning via portals. there other screenshots of these portals and this portal is for sure leading outside the city gate.
01:08 - The girl on the bottom definately looks like a Mesmer.
02:02 - Also it looked liked Assassin was revealed in the concept art. I too do not think that is a Ranger with the black and white outfit duel weilding daggers.
02:55 - Really looks like a dwarf even if it's not.
03:02 - ArenaNet said people don't just stand there when we are given a quest.. but look at all the villagers just standing around stretching as their city burns lol. (not complaining.. it's just funny.)
03:29 - The way he is dressed I really think that Asura is an engineer. Not the one in the golem the one watching over the fight.
03:40 - The enemy rat throws a gernade. (It's an old video but I never noticed that before.)
03:59 - You can make out the look out of a ship.. implying that area is that area that is drained of water or Orr maybe?
04:34 - big spider in the background
For me it's only one reason really, community
This is an MMO and will have separate servers/worlds with a number of players on it, as time goes by some players leave and new ones arrive but the community persists... or as anyone that has played MMO's for at least the last 8 years or so has discovered if the number of players leaving is too high then the community suffers making the game a lot less fun to play. Server/World mergers, though sometimes necessary, tends to accentuate this. Even a very good game or one where things are improving dramatically will suffer from players leaving in large numbers, this is much more likely to happen with a very high hype level.
If the game sux it doesn't really matter, you're out $50-60 (or $120 if you got a second copy for the wife) but it's not the end of the world, if it's a good game that you could enjoy for years with online friends it does matter.