I wont play it just cause i got burned out when I was playing P2P 1. If i ever go back it will be on the p2p servers and not the free servers. Just me thought.
How exactly do you download the client? It's only available to subscribers?
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I'm confused.
http://everquest2.com/ once it opens on tuesday you can download the eq2x client dont download the client thay have right now because thats for the live servers not for eq2x
If they had used the Turbine model I would have tried it, but this morass they are calling f2p is just a huge joke on the playing public. I feel sorry for anyone that actually pays for anything, talk about suckers.....
SOE are giving more to the free player than Turbine are. You don't even get quests in LOTRO F2P after level 20, yet you get them all the way up to 80 on EQ2X.
Ages ago. They trickle-feed new content patches prior to them going live. Blizzard do it a hell of a lot better than Sony, I have to say. I've downloaded the free trial, and the amount of time this game hangs on loading environments/appearances is ridiculous. When I did get in, for the first time ever, I had an earth elemental pet that was evidently fighting for me, but which wasn't actually visible even though I was staring at the fight!
Every other online game I play has no problems at all like this, which illustrates how crap Sony still are. It took me back years when I saw the familiar old message saying "I have a character in the game and will have to wait a few minutes". I didn't have one in the game at that time, but there you go. Gratz Sony - some things never change.
If they had used the Turbine model I would have tried it, but this morass they are calling f2p is just a huge joke on the playing public. I feel sorry for anyone that actually pays for anything, talk about suckers.....
SOE are giving more to the free player than Turbine are. You don't even get quests in LOTRO F2P after level 20, yet you get them all the way up to 80 on EQ2X.
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Oh please go try EQ 2 then. I think you will find there are a ton of gotcha's that you have missed. With Turbine I can buy the content when I want and have access to the entire game. With SOE, most of the end game content is not there period. If I want all the content in EQ II, I have to start over on a subscription server.
Always love to respond to posters that only see to the tip of their nose.
You're right, endgame content in EQ2X is going to be for subscribers only, as free players can't buy a lift for the restriction on fabled equipment, which means raiding is pretty pointless for them.
But for a genuine free player, that isn't a huge issue, given you have 80 levels of quests for free, unlike 20 levels of quests in LOTRO.
At the end of the day you have to pay for stuff on both games, neither is 100% free, the truth of the matter is though that EQ2X gives more to the free player than LOTRO does.
You can hype LOTRO all you like, I'd rather have 200 hours of FREE play from EQ2 than 2 hours from LOTRO.
Originally posted by andyman1112 im really excited for eq2x this week i cant wait to get in there and start my adventure i also cant wait to do all the low lvl dungeons and junk its gonna be pretty sweet because right now theres hardly any low lvl dudes even on a high pop server like naghefen (pvp) sure there are some low lvl dudes but not like how its gonna be when eq2x comes out every body is going to be starting fresh and theres gonna be a lot of people to group with or just talk to what do you guys think?
I think that capitalization and punctuation want to be your friends and you should get to know them better.
I still don't understand how people can support EQ2's model - it seems to me it's only better for people who never intend to pay. They give you a lot more up-front but you have to pay a lot more to unlock everything and still can't remove all restrictions and are still stuck on a ghetto server.
For those who intend to only play free and only spend a tiny bit here and there I'll admit EQ2 is a much better deal, but I have to wonder how SoE plans to actually make money off this. But if I was a betting man I'd bet that they don't really care and are just experimenting with microtransaction models so they can figure out exactly how they're going to charge for EQ3 (or EQNext or whatever we're calling it today)
I still don't understand how people can support EQ2's model - it seems to me it's only better for people who never intend to pay. They give you a lot more up-front but you have to pay a lot more to unlock everything and still can't remove all restrictions and are still stuck on a ghetto server.
For those who intend to only play free and only spend a tiny bit here and there I'll admit EQ2 is a much better deal, but I have to wonder how SoE plans to actually make money off this. But if I was a betting man I'd bet that they don't really care and are just experimenting with microtransaction models so they can figure out exactly how they're going to charge for EQ3 (or EQNext or whatever we're calling it today)
There are probably sitting on a lot of server hardware that they dont need any more for EQ, EQ2, Vanguard and SWG, but still have to pay for because of three or five year contracts with the hardware manufacturers.
So even if they make only $2 per player on average on EQ2X, its probably still better than nothing at all and still incuring the full costs for the hardware.
I played on nagafen when the PvP server first came out. Stopped playing after a couple months and retried again about a year later and stopped in a similar amount of time. In some repsects the pvp system was decent, in other respects it was kind of dumb and did not achieve its designed for purpose. Many limits the designers wanted did not work as intended or were circumvented.
But my reason for stopping was not PvP, it was flawed and dominated by twinking. But so is most PvP with any kind of gear system like EQ2. At least EQ2 tried to do something reasonable to make open world PvP happen unlike WoW.
No I stopped simply because EQ2 was very grindy in a monotone sort of way. It had a lot of cool things I wanted to get to. The AA stuff was fairly interesting. Some of the zones like Kingdom of the Sky was pretty cool. Jumping off a Griffon in mid flight and killing someone was fun (and vice versa, look to the skies ). But in the end you still basically needed to hunker down and farm somewhere over and over. On the PvP server this was even more apparent as the normal farming locations were often not worth while due to harassment by enemy players. While this harassment was fun it was also non-productive. You need to do ALOT of farming to get twinked out (across all the level not level 19 or whatever) and chasing harassing stealthers or furies all over just means you are gonna get there in twice the time. So you go somewhere safe; wash, rinse, repeat farming over and over. Or you just do some very repetitive and slow solo farming.
In some repsects its tempting, but I know all EQ2 ever does is layer more AA or instances onto a very simple model I find very repetitive and bland. After about 20-25 levels of questing I was just done. And doing instances or open dungeons is just do your role, do your role, do your role.
Keep in mind this is a game where something like 40% of your overall damage can be from autoattack for some classes. Game has a lot to reccomend in some cases, but its grind is just so monotone and omnipresent.
Oh please go try EQ 2 then. I think you will find there are a ton of gotcha's that you have missed. With Turbine I can buy the content when I want and have access to the entire game. With SOE, most of the end game content is not there period. If I want all the content in EQ II, I have to start over on a subscription server.
Always love to respond to posters that only see to the tip of their nose.
This is not correct btw.
Don't get me wrong - eq2x is absolutely horrible - but you do have a couple of things wrong. If you want all of EQ2's content, you CAN get it on the eq2x sever by paying the fee, it even includes any new expansions released. That being said, it's a pretty stupid thing to do. Anyone interested in end-game in eq2 is already playing on the real servers and you can't transfer from eq2x to the real ones.
However, the people for whom eq2x is best are people who don't do anything end-game and who don't care about fabled gear and things like that. For them, eq2x does give a HUGE amount of content like solo quests for free.
As an 6-year eq2 vet, i would much rather have preferred some kind of unlimited trial up to level 70 that brought more people to the regular servers. More people is no good for me if they can't ever come to my server or subscribe.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall Currently Playing: ESO
Oh please go try EQ 2 then. I think you will find there are a ton of gotcha's that you have missed. With Turbine I can buy the content when I want and have access to the entire game. With SOE, most of the end game content is not there period. If I want all the content in EQ II, I have to start over on a subscription server.
Always love to respond to posters that only see to the tip of their nose.
This is not correct btw.
Don't get me wrong - eq2x is absolutely horrible - but you do have a couple of things wrong. If you want all of EQ2's content, you CAN get it on the eq2x sever by paying the fee, it even includes any new expansions released. That being said, it's a pretty stupid thing to do. Anyone interested in end-game in eq2 is already playing on the real servers and you can't transfer from eq2x to the real ones.
However, the people for whom eq2x is best are people who don't do anything end-game and who don't care about fabled gear and things like that. For them, eq2x does give a HUGE amount of content like solo quests for free.
As an 6-year eq2 vet, i would much rather have preferred some kind of unlimited trial up to level 70 that brought more people to the regular servers. More people is no good for me if they can't ever come to my server or subscribe.
Yes last point is extremely important. I have characters on Thelanis in DDO. The F2P change has increased server population a lot. And while the P2P people exclude the f2P people (sometimes because of incompatible content, sometimes because they are pricks) it has definitely helped the server out through all leveling tiers.
Now DDO has always had much more replayability than EQ2 simply because of the nature of its RPG system. But it is still quite noticable.
Since DDO went F2P their sub base has doubled. Other stuff has increased more than double, but its important to note the increase in the original P2P model due to the F2P part.
This is another reason I am not that excited for EQ2's version of this. I think SOE just doesn't get it. They see dollar signs from the microtransactions, they see Turbine doing it. They mimic Turbine without much understanding what the underlying reason for doign thigns is.
Turbine has been very careful about what they sell and what can be done with it. But they always did this with the entire point of having F2P and P2P together and to some extent interchangable. Tubine offers to paradigms and some room in between, and then lets you switches back and forth. SOE just sees boxes to put dollar signs in. AT least that is my opinion of SOE.
DDO population doubled when it went f2p because the population was extremely low before hand. . Anyone know if the eq2x f2p is going to be a beta and will we keep our toons when it releases?
DDO population doubled when it went f2p because the population was extremely low before hand.
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Anyone know if the eq2x f2p is going to be a beta and will we keep our toons when it releases?
Any toons created from Beta, starting tomorrow at 9AM PDT, will not be wiped. Beta is essentially a soft launch and an excuse to find any last issues before they start advertising with the Live launch.
If they had used the Turbine model I would have tried it, but this morass they are calling f2p is just a huge joke on the playing public. I feel sorry for anyone that actually pays for anything, talk about suckers.....
SOE are giving more to the free player than Turbine are. You don't even get quests in LOTRO F2P after level 20, yet you get them all the way up to 80 on EQ2X.
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Oh please go try EQ 2 then. I think you will find there are a ton of gotcha's that you have missed. With Turbine I can buy the content when I want and have access to the entire game. With SOE, most of the end game content is not there period. If I want all the content in EQ II, I have to start over on a subscription server.
Always love to respond to posters that only see to the tip of their nose.
Blah blah blah. It honestly depends from player to player. Some people don't give a crap about "end game", others don't care about having the best equips, and when in doubt, subscribe...
All the people who would want to play this game faithfully, already are. I don't get the crying about not getting any new players on the regular servers, they talk as if there has been a population growth trend for the past X years that will somehow be stopped by this change...
I personally will only be playing this until the games I'm REALLY waiting for come around, as I'm sure most of the people around this site are / will . So honestly, these "gotcha's" you speak of, won't really get in the way of a game we're playing to waste time waiting for a better game.
I am currently playing the EQII trial and although I find it entertaining, I cannot see myself paying for a subscription. I will definitely play for free.
ok if you think there P2P is better pay for it again and logg into an almost barren place, EQ2X is the next evolution in the stage of the game which is going to bring new players who are willing to pay and new players unwilling to play as well as players that are currently playing, many players from the other servers have came over to the free platform server because of the population limits on the live servers, this is sonys last ditch effort to bring to life a game that is currently dying, and as such this is a good idea, they are making money, and possibly making more money than before EQ2X.so those who are moaning and complaining, you dont work for sony nor probably own your own business so shut up and keep your retarded statements quiet.
Well for me as a casual player no mmo is worth a monthly sub and certainly not the 15 dollars most seam to want to charge not even Warcraft these days since Blizzard took out all the challenge out of the game in its quest to making it appealing for very young players . So yes I will try it and play it alongside ROM,DDO,LOTRO and Warhammer (t1) for a few hours a week untill the next big game comes along (if it ever does) . Plenty of free content now to tide us all over .
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I'd like to give eq2x a try.
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How exactly do you download the client? It's only available to subscribers?
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I'm confused.
Well shave my back and call me an elf! -- Oghren
I wont play it just cause i got burned out when I was playing P2P 1. If i ever go back it will be on the p2p servers and not the free servers. Just me thought.
If I wanted to play eq2, I would still be playing it... it's clunky, has always been clunky, and will remain clunky even in a f2p format.
My 2 cents.
http://everquest2.com/ once it opens on tuesday you can download the eq2x client dont download the client thay have right now because thats for the live servers not for eq2x
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Total MMOs played: 274|Enjoyed: 9. >:|
Once they get out of closed beta you will be able to download it, and it will be a download as you play type of thing, similair to what WoW has.
When WoW introduce streaming?
Ages ago. They trickle-feed new content patches prior to them going live. Blizzard do it a hell of a lot better than Sony, I have to say. I've downloaded the free trial, and the amount of time this game hangs on loading environments/appearances is ridiculous. When I did get in, for the first time ever, I had an earth elemental pet that was evidently fighting for me, but which wasn't actually visible even though I was staring at the fight!
Every other online game I play has no problems at all like this, which illustrates how crap Sony still are. It took me back years when I saw the familiar old message saying "I have a character in the game and will have to wait a few minutes". I didn't have one in the game at that time, but there you go. Gratz Sony - some things never change.
Oh please go try EQ 2 then. I think you will find there are a ton of gotcha's that you have missed. With Turbine I can buy the content when I want and have access to the entire game. With SOE, most of the end game content is not there period. If I want all the content in EQ II, I have to start over on a subscription server.
Always love to respond to posters that only see to the tip of their nose.
You're right, endgame content in EQ2X is going to be for subscribers only, as free players can't buy a lift for the restriction on fabled equipment, which means raiding is pretty pointless for them.
But for a genuine free player, that isn't a huge issue, given you have 80 levels of quests for free, unlike 20 levels of quests in LOTRO.
At the end of the day you have to pay for stuff on both games, neither is 100% free, the truth of the matter is though that EQ2X gives more to the free player than LOTRO does.
You can hype LOTRO all you like, I'd rather have 200 hours of FREE play from EQ2 than 2 hours from LOTRO.
I think that capitalization and punctuation want to be your friends and you should get to know them better.
I still don't understand how people can support EQ2's model - it seems to me it's only better for people who never intend to pay. They give you a lot more up-front but you have to pay a lot more to unlock everything and still can't remove all restrictions and are still stuck on a ghetto server.
For those who intend to only play free and only spend a tiny bit here and there I'll admit EQ2 is a much better deal, but I have to wonder how SoE plans to actually make money off this. But if I was a betting man I'd bet that they don't really care and are just experimenting with microtransaction models so they can figure out exactly how they're going to charge for EQ3 (or EQNext or whatever we're calling it today)
There are probably sitting on a lot of server hardware that they dont need any more for EQ, EQ2, Vanguard and SWG, but still have to pay for because of three or five year contracts with the hardware manufacturers.
So even if they make only $2 per player on average on EQ2X, its probably still better than nothing at all and still incuring the full costs for the hardware.
I played on nagafen when the PvP server first came out. Stopped playing after a couple months and retried again about a year later and stopped in a similar amount of time. In some repsects the pvp system was decent, in other respects it was kind of dumb and did not achieve its designed for purpose. Many limits the designers wanted did not work as intended or were circumvented.
But my reason for stopping was not PvP, it was flawed and dominated by twinking. But so is most PvP with any kind of gear system like EQ2. At least EQ2 tried to do something reasonable to make open world PvP happen unlike WoW.
No I stopped simply because EQ2 was very grindy in a monotone sort of way. It had a lot of cool things I wanted to get to. The AA stuff was fairly interesting. Some of the zones like Kingdom of the Sky was pretty cool. Jumping off a Griffon in mid flight and killing someone was fun (and vice versa, look to the skies ). But in the end you still basically needed to hunker down and farm somewhere over and over. On the PvP server this was even more apparent as the normal farming locations were often not worth while due to harassment by enemy players. While this harassment was fun it was also non-productive. You need to do ALOT of farming to get twinked out (across all the level not level 19 or whatever) and chasing harassing stealthers or furies all over just means you are gonna get there in twice the time. So you go somewhere safe; wash, rinse, repeat farming over and over. Or you just do some very repetitive and slow solo farming.
In some repsects its tempting, but I know all EQ2 ever does is layer more AA or instances onto a very simple model I find very repetitive and bland. After about 20-25 levels of questing I was just done. And doing instances or open dungeons is just do your role, do your role, do your role.
Keep in mind this is a game where something like 40% of your overall damage can be from autoattack for some classes. Game has a lot to reccomend in some cases, but its grind is just so monotone and omnipresent.
This is not correct btw.
Don't get me wrong - eq2x is absolutely horrible - but you do have a couple of things wrong. If you want all of EQ2's content, you CAN get it on the eq2x sever by paying the fee, it even includes any new expansions released. That being said, it's a pretty stupid thing to do. Anyone interested in end-game in eq2 is already playing on the real servers and you can't transfer from eq2x to the real ones.
However, the people for whom eq2x is best are people who don't do anything end-game and who don't care about fabled gear and things like that. For them, eq2x does give a HUGE amount of content like solo quests for free.
As an 6-year eq2 vet, i would much rather have preferred some kind of unlimited trial up to level 70 that brought more people to the regular servers. More people is no good for me if they can't ever come to my server or subscribe.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO
Say hello, To the things you've left behind. They are more a part of your life now that you can't touch them.
Yes last point is extremely important. I have characters on Thelanis in DDO. The F2P change has increased server population a lot. And while the P2P people exclude the f2P people (sometimes because of incompatible content, sometimes because they are pricks) it has definitely helped the server out through all leveling tiers.
Now DDO has always had much more replayability than EQ2 simply because of the nature of its RPG system. But it is still quite noticable.
Since DDO went F2P their sub base has doubled. Other stuff has increased more than double, but its important to note the increase in the original P2P model due to the F2P part.
This is another reason I am not that excited for EQ2's version of this. I think SOE just doesn't get it. They see dollar signs from the microtransactions, they see Turbine doing it. They mimic Turbine without much understanding what the underlying reason for doign thigns is.
Turbine has been very careful about what they sell and what can be done with it. But they always did this with the entire point of having F2P and P2P together and to some extent interchangable. Tubine offers to paradigms and some room in between, and then lets you switches back and forth. SOE just sees boxes to put dollar signs in. AT least that is my opinion of SOE.
DDO population doubled when it went f2p because the population was extremely low before hand.
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Anyone know if the eq2x f2p is going to be a beta and will we keep our toons when it releases?
Well shave my back and call me an elf! -- Oghren
Any toons created from Beta, starting tomorrow at 9AM PDT, will not be wiped. Beta is essentially a soft launch and an excuse to find any last issues before they start advertising with the Live launch.
Blah blah blah. It honestly depends from player to player. Some people don't give a crap about "end game", others don't care about having the best equips, and when in doubt, subscribe...
All the people who would want to play this game faithfully, already are. I don't get the crying about not getting any new players on the regular servers, they talk as if there has been a population growth trend for the past X years that will somehow be stopped by this change...
I personally will only be playing this until the games I'm REALLY waiting for come around, as I'm sure most of the people around this site are / will . So honestly, these "gotcha's" you speak of, won't really get in the way of a game we're playing to waste time waiting for a better game.
Total MMOs played: 274|Enjoyed: 9. >:|
I am currently playing the EQII trial and although I find it entertaining, I cannot see myself paying for a subscription. I will definitely play for free.
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Total MMOs played: 274|Enjoyed: 9. >:|
ok if you think there P2P is better pay for it again and logg into an almost barren place, EQ2X is the next evolution in the stage of the game which is going to bring new players who are willing to pay and new players unwilling to play as well as players that are currently playing, many players from the other servers have came over to the free platform server because of the population limits on the live servers, this is sonys last ditch effort to bring to life a game that is currently dying, and as such this is a good idea, they are making money, and possibly making more money than before EQ2X.so those who are moaning and complaining, you dont work for sony nor probably own your own business so shut up and keep your retarded statements quiet.
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i never got into much of pvp but i did like aion but i didn' tget a cvhance to play long since money is really tight
Well for me as a casual player no mmo is worth a monthly sub and certainly not the 15 dollars most seam to want to charge not even Warcraft these days since Blizzard took out all the challenge out of the game in its quest to making it appealing for very young players . So yes I will try it and play it alongside ROM,DDO,LOTRO and Warhammer (t1) for a few hours a week untill the next big game comes along (if it ever does) . Plenty of free content now to tide us all over .