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My EQ2 Extended first day experience - Please fanbois dont read
Etherloth
Member UncommonPosts: 47
Ok in order to keep it as painless as it can be, Ill try to do it fast.
Background - Non an EQ hater at all, in fact all the opposite, not to brag but just to let ya know, EQ player for 6+ years, achieved the maximum targets at my time, first epic 2.0 of my server, loads of serverfirsts and some serverwide firsts, raidleader of top tier guilds for a good while, etc. To sum up not a noob.
Facts - Started the free EQ2 experience yesterday with my wife, who was as well EQ player (till end game xperience). The restrictions are PLAIN RETARD, in fact what they are trying to do is to "tease" players instead of let them experience the game, big mistake IMO considering the amount of titles available at this moment...
I make a char, play it till lvl 10, everything quite smooth considering the circumstances, then oh sh1t bug appears! I loot till max inventory and it blocks and doesnt let me loot anymore, I empty it totally with no results and cannot advance in many quests due to this trouble, accordingly with the situation, i go and proceed with a log out/in - No result, ok, next step /petition
Lol'd
"Customer service petitions are available to Silver and Gold members only. Online help for free players is located at http...."
Resume
- Outdated graphics even on max settings
- Bad design on environment, is just that's not proportional, zero immersion
- Restrictions on free players are just retard - Not only on class and races, but on chat options, inventory capacity, spell power, etc.
- The feeling is a wannabe MMORPG nowadays, great work screwing the already bad SOE MMORPG image
- Non petitionable bugs = LMAO's galore
Honestly, I wanted to have some fun till RIFT goes live, as a free option this looked good at first glance, once tried, big disappointment.
In fact the mouth taste has been so bad that it has partially killed my hype for EQ NEXT
I was tempted to say "Save your time and do not try it" but who am I to say so after all. Try it by yourself and realize how sh1tty it is.
Uninstalled at this time.
GL all!
Eth.
Comments
No offense but how can anyone take your mini review seriously when all you did was play the freebie for a few hours?
My guess is that as an EQ player for so long you had too many preconceptions of what EQ2 would be like.
nice review I wont bother with it then. See his review does help.
@Flem
You have a very valid point my friend, the answer is simple.
People could take my minireview seriously because in just 10 levels I have enough strong reasons to uninstall the game.
But of course, that is my opinion.
Eth.
Edited: @Flem detail
It's a completely valid mini-review of the Extended experience, and more or less completely in line with what I felt playing.
The game is still in beta - what is the purpose of a beta? To find and remove bugs before launch. SOE has forgotten this, and your unable to bug report when you find huge, glaring bugs.
For me, the graphics weren't a huge issue until I started playing with them. Comparing the average settings to the maximum graphics settings, the change is absolutely tiny, and yet maximum stresses my graphic card well beyond what a game like age of conan does.
While I enjoyed a lot of the 'EQ2' experience, the 'extended' part was not at all enjoyable. The fact that my spells will only be half the power of anyone else (from what I've seen) is just a further slap in the face.
If I was going to try EQ2, the free trial provides much more options, and the ability to actually try the game without wandering about like a one legged blind man.
I think his review is appropriate, as this is what the developer stated he wants. He wants people to try it free, then upgrade there accounts. Many people will only give this game 5 hours, maybe 10 hours tops before they make the decision to stop, or pay. His choice was to stop, and for very valid reasons. Its a shame as I'm an EQ2 player since launch, and this is ruining the game.
They put the screws on from level 1 and try to force you intoo subbing for the game.. And then they try to force you intoo buying more stuff from their shops.
Thats the main problem with thier F2P model..
Compared to Turbine (equal F2P system) where you are free to buy just those parts of the game you want and (if you pay) can do the same things a subscribed member can without subscription.
Needles to say, i can live with the Turbine implementation i hate how SOE does this, and they will pay for that deerly...
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
years ago when eq2 beta started i feel in love with this game , i played it on and off for many many years , but eq2 kept dieing more and more , cause they don t listen to the community they don t fix and bugs , and they don t fix the lag , the eq2 engine is coded horrible so u can t run this years old game without any probs on max settings on an uptodate machine.
eq2 extended is only another attempt or even the last to screw some players and take their money , like $oE always died with their games.
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It's interesting that they took this approach of MAJOR limitation...I remember not too long ago reading the comments from a Turbine Dev who said the one thing they learned REAL quick from the DDO F2P was the less limitations the better...The more you give Folks for free the more they'll want to purchase a few micro's...
Honestly though...Can any of us be surprised if SOE fails at the F2P attempt? As soon as I read that F2P was going to be on separate Servers I said to my self, "Oh boy, there goes those wacky nuts from SOE again..."
This isnt really supposed to be just "playing everquest 2 for free", otherwise they would just make the game free to play. The restrictions are there because the only reason this server exists is to entice people to pay to play.
It is called EQ2 extended because it is basically an extended trial of the game. The major benefit of this is that the server has an huge popular at low levels, and so new players (or old players) get to experience alot of content as it was meant to be played, in a party. On the live servers a new player has to solo until very high level because 95% of the popular is already max level, or in the latest expansion.
I really dont understand how you could expect to just play a game for free that thousands of other people are paying monthly for, and not have some serious restrictions.
Personally I played EQ2 a long time ago, but had to skip alot of lower level content because there werent any people around to do it. This server lets me go back and try it out for free.
Its really funny that you seem so offended that you arent getting everything the game has to offer for free. If you look at every other recently converted free to play title, you see that customer service is only for people who have paid something into the game. Check the games technical support forum for people who have similar issues, or start a thread about it.
lol more fool you.
getting to lv10 wow you have not played the game yet like most mmos they all start out slow and boreing eq2 gets better the more you play.
go with a battle cleric they rock upps forgot you only got to lv10 so i will take it you will not know how to
)).
theres always dod online and lord of the rings you can play.
@nepulas and the rest
Exactly, which in other circumstances wouldn't affect me at ALL, probably I wouldn't bother on posting this or maybe I'd do just to warn my fellows, but now I fear that EQ NEXT will be touched by this stick and hell, RIFT and EQ NEXT are my only hopes to bring my attention back to the MMORPG scene... is SOE able to learn? Shall we shout in their ear what are their mistakes so they can mend 'em?
Who knows...
Eth.
I highly doubt they will pay for anything. Its a free version of EQ2 what did you people actually expect. They even handed out a blueprint of their shitty model like a month ago.
@lovebug
"lol more fool you."
Excuse me, is there a need to call me fool? Don't think so.
"getting to lv10 wow you have not played the game yet like most mmos they all start out slow and boreing eq2 gets better the more you play."
What I have experienced made me uninstall the game. Just 10 levels were proven enough to do it. That was my point, I CANNOT PLAY ANYMORE WITH A DAMN FVCKING FULL BUG, do you understand now pal?
"go with a battle cleric they rock upps forgot you only got to lv10 so i will take it you will not know how to
))."
Ya. Now I am going to play the class you want me to play. And... Ouch, did you read the original post, Mr? Guess not.
"theres always dod online and lord of the rings you can play."
Sigh. Last post of yours I reply.
Eth.
Ok so youve never heard of an overflow slot ? and you didnt bother to clear it ?
Pro gamer? lulz
I'll explain it in simple terms for you, when your bags are full and you get a quest reward, it goes into your overflow slot.
You can access this by looking in your character sheet, the overflow shows in your character portrait.
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I think the 2 bag limit is a pretty big deal breaker for most people, at least it is for me. Can you even buy additional bag slots with station cash? I did a brief search and didn't find any.
same with test drive a car, u only get to go 2 blocks and up to 30 mph then u have to choose if u want to buyt it or not lol.
@Pitt
Got the thing of course, looks like you didn't.
The whole point is not in the inventory stuff, but in the ability to not being able to even petition, which is a pretty much basic daily-use tool if you are playing a game.
And anyway all the other points are still applicable.
Anyway thanks for your attempt. As you alone imagined in your first paragraph, a pro player would notice quite fast. Now, not all players are able to get ironies, at least when they re required of some intellect.
Geez..
Eth.
Honestly I haven't seen what the issue is. I have easily made it to level 10 in about two hours and never once had my two little bags full out. Not to mention you can replace the smaller bag with a larger one as you them. You are limited to just two bags though.
Thing is you just need to remember to sell your junk when you move into a area with a vendor. The only people this will be a big issue for are people that packrat stuff. They keep every little thing and old armor, ect.
Ya, no really need to keep sh1t, specially when shiny EQ2 Extended (free) users doesn't even have the right to use the broker = they cannot even sell the stuff they get.
Brilliant SOE.
Eth.
Nice try though, because if you would have cleared out that slot.. it would have allowed you to pick up more loot and qest rewards. This just kinda goes to show that you really had no idea that there was a overflow bag.
Reasion I know this.. because my friend had the same issue and the same problem. Couldn't pick anything up even after clearing out his invetory. They he checked the overflow slot and boom fixed the problem.
As far as the petitions go. I think its generally fairly standard F2P practice that unless you are paying something you get subpar support. Even LOTRO's system is setup where the non paying members get subpar support compared to the paying.
Really why should they go out of the way to help you costing them money in exchange for you not even supporting the game? General CSR rates around around $9-$12 / hour. I don't think its too much to ask for people to pay a fee to support the game they play in this manner. With LOTRO's model you have to buy some turbine points before you get anything beyond basic self help support. Even then its limited to 30 days from date of points purchased unless you subscribe.
I think you meant auction / broker the stuff you get. Cause you can indeed sell anything you pickup thats sellable.
I am really starting to think you just came into the game expecting to get everything for nothing from the game. Yeah good luck finding you a MMO game that will give you everything for nothing.
Well, its completely up to you to think whatever you want, not that I care. But if you know how to read between lines, you will get the point, otherwise, useless that i spend my time answering.
Now on another topic, you should think, if they try to attract new customers, they forcefully gotta care for them and their gaming experience, otherwise they will just impact negatively their own image, this is a very basic marketing fact.
Of course, everyone included SOE is pretty entitled to use the marketing structure they wish to. Other different story are the results.
Anyway, and yet again, just my opinion, remember to try this game before you take any decision )
Eth.
Thanks for the review of the free system. I have played EQ2 before and really enjoyed it, but I also found the graphics performance to be irritating. The graphics themselves are outstanding, but the framerate is a gamebreaker.
"I'm not cheap I'm incredibly subconsciously financially optimized"
"The worst part of censorship is ------------------"
Try DDO ( Dungeon and Dragons Online). I retryed it a few months back as a free player, had so much fun that I now pay to play.
At first i was turned off by all the instances and the store options...fearing a pay to win, but it'snot a pay to win situation at all. It's a pay to win ...faster. Free can win too, just takes longer. None of that will matter early on though.
For me...earning store points through questing, to spend on new adventure packs..just enhanced my experience. It gave me another reason to play and another reward to enjoy.
I highly reccomend DDO.
I'm also lvl 10, and while the game is reasonably entertaining, there's no way I will sub to it to open up new content. It's not THAT good, so the "tease" that's been mentioned just isn't going to work.
The DDO model is the way to go, because I'd happily pay a nominal fee to unlock the couple of things that pique my interest. With that in mind I'm considering buying the Silver Membership at 1,000 coins, if the price is reasonable.