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I am afraid for FFXIV
Lienhart
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1. Poorly coded.
i7 920 @ 4.x ghz
5870 crossfire
12 GB RAM
I'm running at 1920x1200, everything high, and lag spiking. Frame rates aren't consistent. Sure, it's "beta". However, it's 3 weeks to launch and this is a stress test...not a client optimize test.
2. Gameplay:
This is probably the worst part about the game....I don't know why, I loved the original FFXI but stopped playing it when all my friends moved to WoW. I also, am not in high school anymore, I don't have 10+ hours free everyday to fail school. I actually need to see the sun light so I hope this game doesn't promot obesity.
Personal opinions aside, for some odd reason...I found myself falling asleep, literally. I had to turn off the game 30 minutes in because I was falling asleep =/
I don't like where this is going.........the last game I played that nearly put me to sleep was Everquest II. And that game got KILLED by WoW.
EDIT: For anyone that says "It's your computer". No, trust me, it's not. Especially since I'm running every other game on highest settings perfectly fine, add in the fact that I know more about software than you because I major in software development and know much more than the average 'wannabe".
And to add one more thing regarding the gameplay. Who programmed the mouse? Seriously who the hell programmed the mouse?
EDITEDIT: Where the hell are the official forums?!
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no idea why you running @ 1900x1200.
The weird combination. You should run it @ 1920x1080 which is the HD recommand.
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I'll let someone else explain this to you
The game is not lagging for me fortunately, sorry to hear that you are lagging.
I'm going to pick on you a little... You know alot more about software than the rest of us, yet in my experience most gaming issues with PC's are with hardware, not software.
Gonna have to agree with you here. You have much better PC compared to my setup but still I would think Core 2 Duo @ 3.5 with 4 gigs DD2 and Black Edition GTX 260 would run it fine on reg settings, not so much. Killing rats, executing 15 emotes for a quest etc, very random stuff...
The game doesn't lag for me though it crashes everyone now and then... kind of frustratin because then you automatically fail the leve...
1. EQ2 put you to sleep? That game has so much to do in it..... You may not like the MMORPG genre anymore is what I htink. Try other games such as League of legends and others that offer fast paced combat and short sessions with quick reward.
2. FFXIV from what I read will have a cap limit on how much you can level a class per week or something, so they want you to go outside and will not allow you to grind all day. I am not 100% clear on how it all works, but I don't think you will be forced to play hardcore hours to have fun or get far.
3. I played the Alpha on my PC and it is a GTX 260, 4GB RAM, Intel core 2 Quad 9450 processor. The game didn't have lag for me, I run at 1680 x 1050. Maybe crossfire is causing problems, I am not sure. I know a lot of games are not coded properly for more than 1 graphics card be it Nvidia or ATI.
GAME TIL YOU DIE!!!!
Okay, I think a lot of people misunderstand what my idea of lag is:
Cyrsis for me runs at 50-80FPS. This for me, is not laggy. Anything below 30 and spiking to 60 is considered lag and lag spiking.
This means the team responsible for coding the engine....well, failed lol
There are many other games like this, forgot which ones they were...(cause well, they all died).
I dunno mate. It feels like FFXI....just shinier. And it seems a little bit too late. It's like rereleasing FFXI with new graphics but none of the accessibility that new MMO players want. I mean, lets be honest, if SE wants to make money, they need to cater to casuals, and so far....this game doesn't seem like it's doing that from what i'm reading.
With that kind of set up I just got to say WoW, you of all people should be smoking this game. Do you think it could be a conflect with something on your computer (hardware or software wise?)
Still even if that was corrected, nothing will fix the bordom you experance in the game sadly
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Crysis ran very, very poorly when it frst came out on all machines. You are playing it now, so it did not die, so you are wrong.
I am guessing FFXIV will have tons of video options when the official game is released, as you see in beta there are not many to mess with.
If you think the game failed, you don't like it or whatever, just uninstall the beta and don't buy it. No point wasting your time on something you are not enjoying and think is not fun, bores you and that your computer cannot run up well.
GAME TIL YOU DIE!!!!
Have you played FFXI? Do you have any idea how many video options that game had?
I think you need to check Crysis' sales with respect to Modern Warfare lol
The only reason why any of my friends had Crysis was to use it as a benchmark. And yes, I'm aware of it's garbage coding when it first came out and it's still not that great now.
Don't get me wrong, I really want to like this game...but I seriously think SE screwed up...badly.
ffxiv does not support crossfire or sli, disable it and try you will notice a boost in performance. Vanguard was the same way, people actually had consistent memory leak until the game crashed if they used sli or crossfire.
why does the mouse feel laggy in this game?
Yes I played FFXI for a year from when it launched.
FFXI is a very old game and was out on the PS2 years before it was PORTED to PC! That is why it had few PC options.
FFXIV is being made on PC first and will be ported to the PS3 way later. It will have many more PC options because of this.
So, that is the difference.
GAME TIL YOU DIE!!!!
Again, uninstall the beta and forget about the game. You shoudl not need people to convince you to like a game.
You are bored, trying hard to like a game... that right there should tell you that this game is not for you.
If you are a final fantasy fan, then maybe you would still like it once you play the final product, if you are not a big fan of the FF games, I would say yes uninstall it now and move on to a new MMORPG or maybe a new genre to try out something new.
If SE screwed up, oh well, I am sure a couple millions of FF fans will stil play in Japan, USA and Europe. They will live, don't worry about them.
GAME TIL YOU DIE!!!!
This runs great on my computer with max settings. The game play is awesome if you use a xbox controller, and they are still working on the controls. This game will be ready, if you played during closed beta you would know that they have added a ton of stuff in the past few weeks. They still have some time to work out the kinks and if they were truly worried about the silly bugs and things that people keep pointing out they wouldn't of quit allowing bug reports in beta 3. This game is going to rock come launch and they are purposely keeping things from us. I am counting down the days till this come out.
~Knaple~
http://www.gamespot.com/search.html?qs=ffxi
According to this page it was released on the PC in October 2003 and the playstation March of 2004. So it was released on the PC before the console in North America however In Japan it was released in May 2002 on PS and November same year for PC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XI
I played FFXI at launch in USA. I followed it before release, I know about it, don't need to look it up. However, since you insist.
FFXI was a PS2 game before anything else. They developed it using the PS2 specs and wanted it to play on both a PS2 and PC and have players interact between the 2 systems. They knew their main audience would be JPN PS2 players so the game had to run best on that system and so they did not worry much about maximizing the game to make use of PC technology that was more advanced.
The game first came out in May 2002 in Japan on the PS2. Later it was released on the PC in japan in November 2002, as you said.
You can see the rest of the dates below or at the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XI
Release date(s) PlayStation 2
JP May 16, 2002
NA March 23, 2004
Windows (PC)
JP November 7, 2002
NA October 28, 2003
PAL September 17, 2004
Xbox 360
NA April 18, 2006
JP April 20, 2006
PAL April 20, 2006
The main point is that FFXIV while still being ported to the PS3, was developed more as a PC game than a console game in terms of the graphics and technology being used. The controsl remain more of a console system, but this game is not like the old PS2 game that was developed based on the consoel engine over a PC engine.
GAME TIL YOU DIE!!!!
I'll tell you right now that SE is not making this game for PC and porting it to PS3. The fact that the controls are made for a gamepad should already tell you this.
Need I mention the software mouse, or not being able to alt-tab out of full screen without the game exiting.
Honestly, I feel like I'm playing on a PS3 emulator.
Ok I'll explain it to you. Both FFXI and FFXIV were developed specifically optimized for their respective consoles. That means that FFXIV's native resolution is 1080p (1920 x 1080) which is the best you can get for HD TVs in homes right now. (this is the highest resolution for console gamers atm) If you did a little checking of your FFXI history you'd know that the same thing bothered US pc gamers when FFXI was released here compared to the PS2 version.
SE explained that it was developed (and optimized) with the PS2 in mind and pc reviewers criticized FFXI's visuals for not scaling with the more power available from PCs. Anyway, being optimized in that way meant that console and pc players were pretty much on a level playing field when it came to responding to on screen cues for renki (well that and SE's decision for a slower combat pace). It also meant less apparent lag.
And as far as you woes from having such a powerful system, just try running Doom on your system and it would be unplayable. Same thing can be said about seeing regular tv channels on a HD tv as compared to a HD signal. It's just not optimized to take advantage of the extra power.
Now as far as your snorefest when playing. I think it has every reason to do with the lack of friends by your side as you play. We can't all be pleased with every mmo released. Just try another.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
You show you have not followed thi game at all.
The developers have said all along they were developing the PC engine apart from teh PS3 one and as you can see the game for PS3 is way far behind and will be out late next year if even by then.
They want to keep the controls similar on both systems maybe, but that is not a bad thing, go buy a controller and test it out, all games are not made the same.
This game is a PC game 1st this time around. They are focused ont he PC version coming out NOW and not even setting a console rfelease date yet, if you can't ee this means PC is the #1 market this time, then I don't knwo what else to tell you.
Also, if all you can point out are negatives about the game, again UNINSTALL IT!!
You don't like anything about this game yet you are here posting about it for what?
I am trying to give you information about it, but it seems nothing will help you here, it just is not a game of your style or one that you wil enjoy from your feedback form the beta.
GAME TIL YOU DIE!!!!
Just because a game is released on the PC first does NOT mean it's being optimized as such. Just one look at the focus on gamepad support over keyboard/mouse support would have pointed this out to you......ALL video games are developed on PCs........100% of them. Still doesn't mean they all port over from PC--->console--->PC in bug free glory.
Take Champions Online. Developed on the PC with console in mind, but later the console version is canned. But when the PC verison is released. EVERY review I read said it played like a console game and played better with a gamepad.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
well game doesn't run properly on a great pc doesn't mean the game is an epic fail maybe there is a flaw or doesnt support all graphics card i play on a pc barely fit to play and i lag for the fact that i am running a crappy pc an di am happy with the game