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Blizzard needs to clean up the Warcraft community ,
OkhamsRazor
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A few months ago I decided to go back to WOW to see what the game was like now . I was pretty shocked at the amount of racism , homophobia ,anti-semitism and anti muslim sentiment i saw . Which is whats made me want to post this thread because I believe Blizzard should be doing a better job of policing its game . I did tackle a guy who in a battleground was calling everyone jewbags and stinking jews because we were losing . He really did'nt seem to realise what he was doing was wrong . The thing is it may be a faliure of society but Blizzard does have a policey where is says they will not tolerate this kind of behaviour and you only have to be in the game a short time to realise they arn't enforcing this to the proper extent . If the were it would'nt be as rife as it is now . I would suggest a three strikes and your out policey would be a good idea and instead of banning accounts the banning of ip addresses may be a good idea . This would'nt stop it but it would help . Now I'm not the most politcally correct of people but an online game community that attracts children should'nt be like this and Blizzard really do need to clean up its act . I'm sure responsible parents if they saw what went on in this game would be disgusted . Perhaps Blizzard only care about the bottom line but quite frankly thats very irresponsible of them and should it continue it will come back to bite them eventually .Of course this applys to any online game but it seams to be a lot lot worse in Warcraft at the moment than any other mmo that I've played .
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I agree, the community is pretty bad, they need to do a better job at cleaning the filth.
It seems like people don't realize that when they are playing these games and making these insults that they may be making with their friends at home, that maybe they have a jewish player in their guild or in the battleground on their team. I know what kind of insults I have heard, and it isn't even worth trying to fight anyone about it. Try to defend a gay player in the game , you are just setting yourself up to be flamed.
An aweful lot of homophobia going on in those BG's, not sure if it is that, or people are just so used to making these insults at home with their friends they don't realize they are really offending other players.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
I always wondered how hard it could be to hire some employees to monitor multiple servers and do immediate suspensions and temporary bans without being reported. With the amount of money Blizzard makes, I don't think It would be that hard ... and the effects would be better for everyone.
Money trumps everything these days.
But I feel your pain. After hearing a grown man cry because he didn't get a drop in ICC, I quit the game. Not paying to scramble about in the biggest Skinners Box.
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When I was playing swg a player would go into the galaxy chat and start acting up and pissing off all the players, and he was banned on the spot. He must have had a few accounts, because he would be back in game on another name doing the exact same thing until he was banned again.
I know WOW has a larger population, but I am sure they can do a better job at keeping that community in check.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
OMG I lmao at this post. Did you really hear a grown man crying? like in vent or something. That is pretty sad, tbh.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
SWG community was good .
Yeah the community of WoW is pretty bad. However, it also highly differs between realms and countries according to my experiences. Normally I play on a german realm. There you see user spamming every now and then, and once in a while also an insult. I never saw anti-semitism or racism though.
Once I created a char on a realm in the UK though, and I was baffled at the stream of insults flying through the general chat nonstop. If I had considered the german general chat to be annoying, then the one in UK was an utter unbearable nightmare. Could have been coincidence, but I somewhat doubt it.
Dunno what's it like on realms in US or France or whereever.
Also, there are games with worse communities. The one of HoN was the worst I ever saw.
On a rating of 1 (horrible unbearable) to 10 (oh so nice, everyone is an angel) in matters of communities:
- FE: 8
- MTGO 6
- german WoW: 5
- LoL: 4
- uk WoW: 3
- HoN: 2
Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
Its the same in all mainstream games with mils of followers that allow players interaction. Trash talking is a form of pvp to a certain crowd & to win you have to out do your opponents. Following that logic it can never stop excalating imo...
In the end, you get what you experienced in WoW. Thats gaming evolution for you... enjoy!
Arg! Sorry I threw up a lilttle.
This is so true, i was called in by a friend when his guild needed another dps for icc25, and i had to join their vet.. We got to Saurfang, the DBW dropped.. Dude lost the roll, rolled a 87, someone won it with a 93, and he blew up because he "needed" the trinket more. He cried.. actual sniffles, nerd raged and quit.. it was the most rediculous but funniest thing ie ver heard
What's your Spell rotation in WoW?
What's a spell rotation? i just punch my keyboard!
Dk's = Fail..
Im a Ret pally moron!!
I am not really sure how they could clean it up... Sure, you could ban the worst people in the OCC but it wont really solve the problem.
Blizzard needs to find some good way to get the community closer but I am not really sure how you could do that. Of course I think that too many instances and thta some of the mechanics when you loot, kill mobs and so on is part of the problem but I am not sure there is any good solution.
Ninja looting, kill stealing and people who are real bastards in the chat are problems that isn't so easy to solve, banning a few idiots wont solve it (even if it wont hurt). And the worst of them all: People who suddenly just quit in the middle of an instance...
It would be great if they could clean up but I don't think it is possible anymore. If they would have started 3-4 years ago maybe.
^^ I agree 100% ^^
I like WoW as a game but I'm sick of the immature assclowns that infest its community. I know that "most" of the peeps are ok, but there are just enough bad ones to ruin my day...
I've played both of those games AoC i found had a pretty undfriendly community because of the way the game was set up on pvp servers it brought the worst out in players ganking etc might be differnent of pve servers . Lotro I've always found to be pretty friendly in fact I've played it over two years and have yet to ignore one person . Sometime the kinships I've been in would'nt chat that much in kin chat though so it was harder to make friends than some games .
WoW has been top of the bad mmo community list for like the past 3yrs imho. Blizzard has never to my knowledge ever seriously enforced their own policies except when it comes to people who steal from their own wallet by making private servers. I tried for 3 months straight quite awhile back to consistently report gamers in WoW who clearly violated Blizzard's CoC policies in-game and not a single thing was ever done.
I didn't just report vague or suspicious griefing, only the solid incidents. Imo, this only makes it evident that "that type" of gamer is exactly the target audience Blizzard caters too, so they obviously won't be banning them anytime soon. "That type" meaning rude, obnoxious, amoral griefers who care for nothing else other than stroking their own epeen in whatever way possible.
*By the way, the incident awhile back with the angry parent demanding Blizzard cleanup the Goldshire Inn on the Moon Guard server has non-surprisingly faded out of notice. So much for any hope there for improvement across other servers as well.
I don't care what anybody else says as to an excuse for such behavior. I've been sick of it for a long time and I too wish they would do something about it. I have lost so much respect for gamers in general because of the way they act in game. There needs to be consequences again so that people think before they speak.
I agree it would be difficult but if people started getting bans for the worse behaviour it would echo through out the community . Its a bit like real life you cant stop it but if you place sanctions against it you can keep it to a minimum . Your spot on this should have never have got to this point and should have been tackled years ago .
Anytime people result to defamation of character and slander it is anything but evolution. If anything it would be closer to de-evolution.
Ignoring the problem doesn't mean it isn't one. Lets be honest here Blizzard can't even stop account thieves what makes you think there can moderate every 15 year old that thinks calling people names is cool.
Honestly, I have gotten to the point where I just automatically add people to my ignore list if I see them acting like a fool in chat even if it's not directed at me because I am sure at some point it would be.
I played from beta until this past June. I have seen and heard just about everything you can gaming. Sex from an open mic, every kind of harmful -ism you can think of, grown men crying, grown women vowing murder, e-sluts, guildmates cheating with other guildmates, bowling, you name it.
Way back when on Cenarion Circle they actually used to enforce naming policy, in the beginning. Nowadays, Hitler would, at worst, get a 3 day ban. Maybe.
Nothing comes between a corporation and it's money. Ambrose Bierce defined it best about this and other situations involving corporations.
Corporation: An ingenious device for obtaining profit without individual responsibility.
TRUST THE COMPUTER! THE COMPUTER IS YOUR FRIEND!
Stay Alert! Trust No One! Keep Your Laser Handy!
Yellow Clearance Black Box Blues!
I think U.S. servers tend to be pretty bad. Uk servers aren't as bad, i been on a server that was half U.S. some UK, and some German, and that wasn't bad, but it was in SWG... Much more mature community.
I was on a US server on wow and it was really bad. Trolls nonstop, and insults constantly being thown around.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
Tsk, tsk. How dare you ask Blizzard to spend some of it's hard earned cash on hiring a sufficient level of support to actually enforce their policies...
Seriously. Blizzard could absolutely police substantially better than it has. But that would defeat the purpose of the Activision-Blizzard cash cow...
I think account thefft is slightly different . Agreed you cant stop it but Blizzard do that policey of dealing with account theft which works maybe not perferctly but they do deal with it pretty well . If they had the same desire they could cleam up the community but it might mean banning several hundred thousand accounts before it took effect . Its just a matter of will with a company as wealthy as Blizzard .
I put that down to the almost pervasive need for attention that most of us Americans are incalculated with by television. The two things about the eurozone servers that I didn't like was the language barrier and the obsessiveness. But that is far more tolerable than the antics of us Americans
"Look at me, I can act like an asshat and have no consequences!". Once you remove consequences for ones action, you get anarchy.
But the flipside to the OP's statement.....it is fun, sometimes, to bring up Justin Bieber and stand back and watch the chat burn.
TRUST THE COMPUTER! THE COMPUTER IS YOUR FRIEND!
Stay Alert! Trust No One! Keep Your Laser Handy!
Yellow Clearance Black Box Blues!
Revenue. That's what it's about. Blizzard was merged (purchased) by Activsion. Activision, a known platform gaming company has brought their target demographic with them. Now, instead of dedicated gamers and adults with steady income, the game is full of children. A large portion of which have no idea how to behave socially because they spend all their time online and not interacting with real people face to face. In doing so, they have become desensitized to how their rude comments affect others.
Stockholders and investors expect ActiBlizz to increase their returns by percentages quarter after quarter, year after year.
I'm sorry, but a company like ActiBlizz is NOT going to ban players; mostly children spending their parent's money.
With most companies, lean management probably dictates minimal customer service. Unless it's costing them money, I doubt (my humble opinion) the behavior of their playerbase has much of a priority. GONE are the days of a 10 min GM wait.
Sadly...one must turn off ALL or MOST chat channels in a game they pay to play. That is a HUGE pet peeve of mine, but it's how you must play the game unless you want to listen to juvenile "back of the schoolbus" banter.
In a side note I'd like to add, from my perspective, that Blizz is letting WoW rot from the inside out. Their playerbase and new owners will be their own downfall from the "top of the mmo heap". I myself left the game. I decided to not DEAL with uncontrolled kids. Especially when I paid to log into the mess. LOVED the game, LEFT the playerbase.