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Sell me on the game.
goose1009
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Hey guys, I've always been a fan of Final Fantasy and while i didnt care for FFXI, im willing to give this one the benefit of the doubt.
I tried the OB and i must say i wasnt impressed, but reading here it seems that alot wasnt implemented that will be at launch. Is it really enough of an upgrade to warrent my 50 dollar purchase? If you could perhaps tell me what kind of stuff they plan on adding that wasnt already there as a sample of the Open Beta?
Is this a game that is going to put emphasis on the community? (something i feel is lacking from most current MMO's) Or is are people simple going to group up to knock out one guildleve and then head out, never really getting to know one another.
I'm looking for a game to get lost in until Old Republic comes out and im really not sure if this is it, but if someone could point me in the right direction as to what this game is really and truely going to be like i would appreciate any of the advice that would be given.
And before all of you start bashing it, i ask that you take it to one of the multiple other threads on the topic, I would like to keep this about the good parts of the game and why people should spend their money on it. Thank you
Goose
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Crafting and Harvesting systems are pretty unique. The story line hooks you in pretty quickly. The job system is intresting. There are mini-instances which help with story line immersion and helps make questing easier (mobs only show up for you party during some quest). There are raid dungeons, materials have different ranks, crafted items have different ranks (standard, great, superior type). However, OB doesn't have 90% of the game available to players, just the systems for everything.
So I can't really sell you on the game. If you like PvE MMOs with good story then FFXIV will probably be up your ally. If you don't care for story line, want raid style things all the time, love PvP, dislike not being lied to about grind, etc then you may not like the game.
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
According to the FAQ, only 10% of the game is available during Open Beta and that the remaining 90% will be there at launch.
It does put a great emphasis on community. Players will have to interact a lot more between each others for not only Leves but also finding groups, meeting Crafters and making long-term deals with them, etc. A lot of FFXIV's items and especially the epics are Craft-based. Most of the content beyond starter area appears to be a lot more party-based and will require a party for more than just "30 minutes and then the party is disbanded". Players will do better in Linkshells too.
That being said, FFXIV has it's flaws and if you are hesistant to buy FFXIV at launch, then perhaps it's best you don't as you might not like the game even when it has all it's content upon release. And if you're waiting for SWTOR, might as well look for a different game to kill time or you'll be wasting money on a temporary game.
Though if you really want to play FFXIV, I'd say wait a month after launch, look at the general feedback and make your decision.
Personally, I've really been enjoying the game so far and even pre-ordered the CE today.
Honestly, I could see this game as not appealing to everyone. If you've actually played the game in open beta and found out you dind't like it, I'm going to say you're not going to like the release, and not going to try to convince you otherwise.
Well, I could take a stab at it, but you're going to need to describe specifically waht you didn't like about it so I have a good starting point. All you've given me to go on so far is you're "not impressed" with the game.
How do we convince you to purchase a game that isn't released?
IMHO, if I was in your shoes I would just wait for the first reports after the game has released. Maybe reserve a copy if you fear that one will not be available a few days after release.
My best advice is to make a new friend that plans to purchase it at release and watch them play.
I'd simply wait until launch and there's been reviews. There's many a glossing over of things here, to make what's shallow appear not.
Even if it were 90% missing content, that isn't a great deal when you realise how little is there. What's missing is the full story arc, as only the begining parts are currently unlocked. It is not missing a fully fleshed out quest system, or whatever you care to envisage. It is also not community driven, its forced grouping to get any decent daily vaule out of leves. That itsn't the same thing. Besides crafting there are no community development tools.
There is no end game, or full blown raids, and there won't be at launch. SE have stated such.
If you like crafting, you'll probably like that element. As it is more evolved than most MMOs these days. On the combat front, you'll be fine if you enjoy or don't mind grinding. The main story arc will most likely be interesting and well structured. Other than that and I know it may be negative, but there's really nothing else there. Its the Marmite of MMOs.
There are high end dungeons. Maybe not 30 man raids, but 14 man bosses are just as good IMO. Also, those 14 man bosses I think can scale to raid level since doing 'instances" with more people and a higher difficult scales the mobs up.
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
I have no intent of this thread being hijacked, so this is the only comment I'm going to make. SE confirmed there is no end game content and niether will there be any at launch.
They may put some good end game content in at some point, but we simply don't know when and exactly what it will be.
this was a troll thread from the start. people that consider 50$ alot of money shouldnt be gaming as a hobby, hardware costs and game costs are far to high for people that dont have employment. and no one needs to be sold on a game, either it looks fun to you and you buy it, or you dont.
just a troll trying to start crap yet again.
It's true... why would you want anyone to convince you of anything? Make your own judgement.
And I agree with the post above. If you're afraid of shelling out $50 on a game, find a new hobby like collecting pogs.
Personnally I think that is a disgusting attitude. Not everyone is cash rich. Why should someone on a low income (or a kid having to have their parents purchase as a gift), not be allowed to be a gamer? I've come across plenty of such people. They enjoy gaming but can really only afford to buy a new game once in a while. It becomes even more critial for them, when its a subscription based MMO. A badly purchased game to them is a total loss. It not even like they can return it, and pick something else.
He did not say 50 dollars was a lot of money he just wants to be convinced to spend 50 dollars on the game. I myself will wait till a free trial is offered then will test drive the game to see if it is to my liking. And that is my advice to most who are on the fence because by then hopefully the game will be smoothed out and most of the regular launch snafus will be ironed out.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
Groucho Marx
He is asking for a services of selling him on the game. If he paid me some $$, I would consider taking a shot at it.
Anyone who wastes money on an unproven product deserves poverty. There's really no justice in the world.
If no one plays, the game fails. Your payment (if you care about it) would be less chance of the game failing (stagnant due to lack of funding at the very least).
Hello, I appreciate your question and I will answer honestly. If you didn't like FFXI, you're not going to enjoy FFXIV. Now I'm certainly no psychic and I can't see the future and know nothing about you, but based entirely off of you not being a big fan of XI, you'll not get a kick out of XIV.
There are differences yes, but at its core they are very very simmilar. Don't spend the money on a pre-order, wait for it to release, keep an eye on it and see how the game shapes up in a few months and maybe it'll be a different story.
Myself, I've pre-ordered the Collectors Edition because this is exactly the kind of game I've been looking for.
passing judgement on someones financial situation...fail troll is fail
If you did not like FFXI, and you tried OB and was not impressed. Why would I even try to get you to like FFXIV, no matter what changes the game makes it will not be a good game for you. End of story, Best you just move on to another game.
One personal observation about this game is that this is the only game where I do not feel rushed towards max level.
It is hard to say, some like it, some don't.
Why do I like it?
- Character looks ( I noticed that this is very important to me, I must like what I see, else I can't enjoy a MMORPG)
- I like the FFXIV world, I have seen the different cities, and they all have their own feeling around them, which I love. I can just walk around and enjoy looking.
- grouping, i grouped a few times, I have work and a husband who doesn't like FFXIV, so I don't have much time, I probably am happy when I can play 10 hours a week. So I hope these short group quests also stay on higher level, I don't want to only solo when I don't have much time.
- main story lines. I loved them in all cities, especially Gridania and Ul'Dah stories, I can't wait to get over rank 10 to go on, and at realease to experience the whole story.
-class system, being able to combine your own skills, and also spent the attribute points in your own way, I love this kind of systems.
- Retainers! Finally I can shop in a game again, then boring AH.
- Housing, we didn't see it yet, but we will get it, an MMORPG world isn't a world if you don't have your own place, I hope to get many decoration options. Hopefully whole players cities, for all I care they do it in an instanced zone, as long as I can see a few neighbour houses!
I also played FFXI, and I loved it, for me it was very addicting, I am already sure for myself FFXIV is the right MMORPG for me. It has everything I loved about FFXI, and more.
Not everyone will agree with me, and it won't be good for everyone, so you have to find out for yourself.
Picture a copy-pasted version of Final Fantasy XI, but with better graphics, sped up combat, and everything else about the game hilariously half-assed. If you want some reasons, go play open beta, or go study some videos on Youtube. Seriously, this game is the worst excuse for an MMORPG I've ever seen, and that's counting Age of Conan AND Star Trek Online. If you preorder it (or rather, decide that canceling your preorder is a poor decision), you deserve to be laughed at.
Square Enix didn't listen to their customers for the entire eight years of FFXI, and from what I've seen from alpha/beta, I can guarantee they're not going to this time either. Save your money, point and laugh, as Squeenix 'creates' the epitome of a horrible MMORPG, if you would even call it that.
Open beta + videos taken into account, you shouldn't need any more reasons. It's trivial trying to explain why this game will flop. Comparing it to other MMORPGs is like comparing a military obstacle course to a preschool swing set (FFXIV being the swing set).
Yeah, SE have pretty much stated that from the outset that beta testing wouldn't feature 100% content. With OB you can experience 3 starting cities, their story arcs, and leves. After that you may be left a little wondering what to do, but it does allow you to try things like the complex crafting system and thoughtful combat for example.
I completely disagree with you. I don't think he is a troll, I think he is one of many who was really looking forward to this game and was dissapointed with what OB had to offer and was hoping someone could tell him there is something that would sway him over.
I'm actually in a similar predicament, I'm on the fence at the minute about this game because I've been burned enough to fear the fire. I think this game has a lot of potential and I may very well still end up buying it. But even with the fact 90% of the content is missing, I just hope there is more to the then killing dodos and mud puppys. I personally enjoy the core mechanics but I would like to see some end game content this year or I will probably rite this game off.
And the most ridicules part of your statement was the comment about "If I don't want to throw 50$ down on some game I may regret then I should not be gaming" with a comment like that I feel as if you're the troll. I have built a mid-high end computer, I've been gaming hardcore for 6 years, and have thrown countless dollars away on games that came out and failed and ended up with dieing communities and unimproved content. I through down $140 on STO, $50 on CO, CE edition of Aion, just in the last year all of which ended up being games that aren't worth the time of day (Imo) and after STO I learned my lesson. Maybe you don't mind throwing money around like it's confetti, but some of us are on budgets and earn and save to have enough to buy these games at release, and just because I'm not rich does not mean " I don't have the right to be a gamer. Pure and utter bull shit.
Exactly.
The current state of MMO's have burned us all. If people aren't going to stop and look at what they are buying starting now, we may as well throw our cash right in the toilet.
"I'm not cheap I'm incredibly subconsciously financially optimized"
"The worst part of censorship is ------------------"
This is preposterous and simply ludicrous.
In the early years of MMO gaming, MMO's were released that had a lot more flaws than current MMO's. Still, people played them and enjoyed them, sometimes for years, they certainly didn't see it as a waste of their money.
And those were products with more flaws and bugs and sometimes less content than the current generation of MMO's.
It isn't just the MMO market that has changed, far more the MMO playerbase has changed: they (or most of them) have become jaded, easily bored (not to say have grown the attitude of a lazy, spoilt kid) and are doing miserably with managing their own expectations.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
10 years ago when a kid was 5 years old coloring in the lines i bet he/she wasn't thinking they would be the target audience for MMORPG's today.