I'm just a bit confused here. You say that you have enjoyed the game, and the one complaint you give is that there is not an auction house, no search function, and you don't have the time to craft something?
This is an MMO, and as much as people want to claim that they should be solo friendly, and they are not meant to be played with others, they are wrong. MMOs are social games, and if you want to experience the game you will need to embrace the social aspect.
If you go into any main city, or camp you will see many many people kneeling down crafting items. All you need to do is ask what their trade is, and then tell them what you are looking for. The reason they are crafting, is to make money off other people who don't have the time or patience to craft.
If you don't want to deal with that, you can log on to www.ffxivcore.com and visit their forums. Each forum has a server forum, as well as a sub-forum called the Bazaar. If you look in there, you will see people have actual shops made up and are actively taking orders.
Again, if forums are too social for you too, then you will have to make the stuff yourself. I know that in the "beast" you speak of you can simply run about for an hour and get the materials to have a set of gear made in the 2 minutes time it takes for the little bar to fill up. They went with some realism to this game, and it will take some work to actually make things. Pick a day to work on making the pieces of the armor a little bit at a time. It feels good when you put in the time and effort yourself and end up with that nice gear you were hoping to find.
As others have stated, this information on how crafting works was brought up many times before the launch of the game in other posts and informative news articles about the game. Why blindly spend $75 and then complain about it when the information was easily accessible? Not to mention there was that open beta you could have checked out with the same outcome.
This post shouldn't sound like an asshole trying to flame you, but just someone who is very annoyed with people throwing up posts about how enraged and let down they are by the game. Do your research before you buy something. I was there for CB2/3 and OB. There were enough parts of the game that I enjoyed, and decided if nothing was fixed before launch I would still give the game a shot. I am now enjoying the game myself.
I was not actually interested in the game until I read the OP. So while I agree that it is not casual friendly (if by casual you mean just pick up and play) it certainly seems to have the depth I want. I am looking for more of a virtual world and this seems like if offers that to some degree. I would suggest looking for a guild. Also I would think that things will settle down. UO was the same way. . eventually you found a player vendor you knew would have stuff you wanted and get to know the player even. You might fire off a message and become a regular customer.
I miss those things. Having said that. . the other issues I have heard about are still likely to keep me away.
I would like a AH in the game. That is my only problem with FF14. I can deal with player made stuff. Reminds me of SWG at launch. If you lvled past the crafter you where out of luck and had to make do with older armor and weps.
Again why FF14 has no AH when FF11 did makes no sence to me.
Also FF11's AH i thought was one of the best AH in MMo's. I loved looking at the last 10 prices and seeing what i can buy a item for.
I do like that this game did not dumb down its self. Like so many games do now.
As my title states, the only point I am trying to make is this: read this thread before you buy this game on the premise that it is a "casual" game, as SE has been claiming it to be.
I guess it depends on your idea of casual. I think if someone was in a guild and the game was a few months in they could do fine. Someone might offer them the gear etc.
True enough. I'm sure once the game expands and the community grows it'll become easier. Items will be more readily available and prices will have stabilized. Though it certainly isn't for the casual game, not because it's "difficult", but because it'll demand the casual gamer to do far more to achieve X than they like.
I guess it depends on your idea of casual. I think if someone was in a guild and the game was a few months in they could do fine. Someone might offer them the gear etc.
Well, then "in a few months" I will take another look at this game, but until then, I'm not going to pay for SE's open beta. When they get done developing the market system(i.e. add a damn AH) I'll look at ffxiv, but not a day before.
At what point did "Casual Game" mean that you are not required to be an active part of the community, or even simple walk up to the guy who has been making "Bronze Gladius's" for the past hour and ask him to look into making a weapon for you? Like I said in my post, making the armor yourself can't be done by a casual player in one sitting...but you could easily spread it out. OR simple go onto a forum that takes less than 5 minutes to do, click on the thread that says "JoJo's Armor Emporium" and ask JoJo to make what you want...then the next time you log in you trade.
Casual games do not mean "If you buy this game, you can solo play to max level in a week, and not have to worry about getting new gear because we will just allow you to pick it up at a merchant using the money you earned while solo playing"
Personally, I have only played 3 days since the release of CE, and maybe 2-4 hours each day. If you ask me, that is casual. Also, I already have some of the gear I will be using once I level up a bit. It really is not hard at all to obtain it, providing the piece you are looking for is not some insane item that has not yet been crafted on your server.
At what point did "Casual Game" mean that you are not required to be an active part of the community, or even simple walk up to the guy who has been making "Bronze Gladius's" for the past hour and ask him to look into making a weapon for you? Like I said in my post, making the armor yourself can't be done by a casual player in one sitting...but you could easily spread it out. OR simple go onto a forum that takes less than 5 minutes to do, click on the thread that says "JoJo's Armor Emporium" and ask JoJo to make what you want...then the next time you log in you trade.
Casual games do not mean "If you buy this game, you can solo play to max level in a week, and not have to worry about getting new gear because we will just allow you to pick it up at a merchant using the money you earned while solo playing"
Personally, I have only played 3 days since the release of CE, and maybe 2-4 hours each day. If you ask me, that is casual. Also, I already have some of the gear I will be using once I level up a bit. It really is not hard at all to obtain it, providing the piece you are looking for is not some insane item that has not yet been crafted on your server.
Well, great Grubbs, you and every other satisfied FFXIV player can continue to play the game and I along with the rest of the world will join in when SE finishes up the game by adding a market system. Until then, you can pay to play a game missing one of the most important part of any MMO, an ~economy~ and I will see you at ps3 release when the miracle patch is added and they implement the AH.
Game could be great if 1) they added the NEED to adventure with parties 2) they removed the NEED for parties to acuire BASIC nessessities. Im not talking about rare twink gear im talking about what you need to play the game here.
Yea, it is casual friendly. There is no pvp in the game so there is no reason to rush through the content. Just play some time and level up a few levels and shut it off. That's what I have been doing. I'm not worried about getting level cap and all the good pvp gear , because there is no pvp in this game.
At what point did "Casual Game" mean that you are not required to be an active part of the community, or even simple walk up to the guy who has been making "Bronze Gladius's" for the past hour and ask him to look into making a weapon for you? Like I said in my post, making the armor yourself can't be done by a casual player in one sitting...but you could easily spread it out. OR simple go onto a forum that takes less than 5 minutes to do, click on the thread that says "JoJo's Armor Emporium" and ask JoJo to make what you want...then the next time you log in you trade.
Casual games do not mean "If you buy this game, you can solo play to max level in a week, and not have to worry about getting new gear because we will just allow you to pick it up at a merchant using the money you earned while solo playing"
Personally, I have only played 3 days since the release of CE, and maybe 2-4 hours each day. If you ask me, that is casual. Also, I already have some of the gear I will be using once I level up a bit. It really is not hard at all to obtain it, providing the piece you are looking for is not some insane item that has not yet been crafted on your server.
Well, great Grubbs, you and every other satisfied FFXIV player can continue to play the game and I along with the rest of the world will join in when SE finishes up the game by adding a market system. Until then, you can pay to play a game missing one of the most important part of any MMO, an ~economy~ and I will see you at ps3 release when the miracle patch is added and they implement the AH.
EQ did just fine without an AH. They had a bazaar and the common lands tunnel. It's all how the players set it up. Perhaps the players can be sectioned off into groups, in one corner you have all your armors, in another all your weapon dealers.
Game could be great if 1) they added the NEED to adventure with parties 2) they removed the NEED for parties to acuire BASIC nessessities. Im not talking about rare twink gear im talking about what you need to play the game here.
need to adventure with parties comes at higher levels i'm sure. Equipment is not meant to be basic essentials. Other then spells/skills and levels. you only have equipment. Some games lock equipment behind raid mobs you have to fight over and over again. Others require you to rely on the community to make your equipment. The game is less then a week old, give it time for everything to get set up. A week is hardly any time at all when any good MMO will last years. I think coming back at least a couple of weeks after the rest of the community gets in is a good idea.
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Yea, it is casual friendly. There is no pvp in the game so there is no reason to rush through the content. Just play some time and level up a few levels and shut it off. That's what I have been doing. I'm not worried about getting level cap and all the good pvp gear , because there is no pvp in this game.
Was anyone talking about trying to reach lvl cap or getting pvp gear?
I am a little disappointed with the lack of the AH. I find this very surprising due to the fact that FFXI had one, which worked somewhat well. My guess is that SE wanted craftsmen and resource gatherer's to have a face to them, but this comes at a significant inconvenience to the general player. What SE needs to do, if they do not plan to integrate an AH, is to implement a "personal store search" interface that allows a person to see what is available for sale throughout the bazaar area. After they find what they want, have the game give you directions towards that person's shop, or just allow you to purchase the item through the search interface.
Another reason for the change could be to halt the manipulation of the auction house by wealthy players. It has been how a friends and I used to manipulate the AH in FFXI.... we would buy out all the stock of a popular reagent for crafting, such as Beehive Chips, Crystal Clusters, Silk Thread, etc. and then through posting them at higher prices and having your friends purchase them, we would create a fake sales history showing prices that were 50-100% higher than the standard price. I still continue this practice in WoW, purposely creating shortages of popular items to inflate prices and make a profit for almost no effort.
Though I could imagine the bazaar system in FFXIV could work if they would integrate a search interface.
The no AH thing sounds interesting, but i'd have to experience it to see how much it would piss me off or if i enjoy it lol. I like the idea of making an order over forums (just me? lol). And like someone else was saying about the Bazaar in EQ, that could also be fun. It is very pecuilar of SE to get rid of the FFXI auction when it worked rather well.
The no AH thing sounds interesting, but i'd have to experience it to see how much it would piss me off or if i enjoy it lol. I like the idea of making an order over forums (just me? lol). And like someone else was saying about the Bazaar in EQ, that could also be fun. It is very pecuilar of SE to get rid of the FFXI auction when it worked rather well.
I personally challege you to find 10 people who are very satisfied with the idea of no AH in game, and never want to see an AH or search bazaar option ever put in FFXIV.
I actually like inter dependant crafting systems, and also like the idea of a player store system that takes us back to closer to what EQ used to be.
The OP has actually helped sell me a little bit on this game.
haha funny, the only people who "like the idea" of the game are thoose with no expierence with it. So why not go buy the game right now instead of posting on forums?
I see alot of mmo companies throwing around the term "Casual Friendly" these days. It is apparently an inocuous buzz word used to lure potential customers to their product due to its subjective nature. Yes I can log in the game and accomplish something in an hour, but when I log in and spend over an hour just trying to find a player who will sell me a gear upgrade to continue my chosen profession as an adventurer, then I think we can all agree that this game will not fit most people's definition of "Casual Friendly".
I do not play the game intending to solo, but I also do not join any group that is accepting as well. I prefer to group with people I get to know in the game, and so far that is becoming difficult due to all the rushing and pre-formed guilds that currently exist in the game. As a person who used to play nearly 80+ hours a week in the past who can no longer due to obligations, I honestly cannot recommend this game to anyone who has limited play time of ~20 hours a week to play unless you already have an established guild and/or friends who do.
I was really hoping that SE would finally bring us a FF MMO that allowed those of us who do not have the time or access to pre-existing communties to pick up and accompish meaningful things in their world, but this game plays more hardcore than games I previously thought were hardcare like old UO, EQ, AC, etc... after levels 15 or so.
The game is also feeling very lacking, and yes I know its new, but it is having to compete with well established games. It plays like a circa 2000-2002 game in a market with many solid and well rounded titles. I expected so much more from such a well established and competent company but the last two FF titles have demonstrated a shift in their focus from content and story to awkward controls and unecessary timesinks.
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Why do people keep confusing casual players with impatient ones? this game can be played by casuals who don't mind slow progression and results. But if you are looking to have everything within an hour of play everyday than sorry its not that kind of game. I consider myself casual. 2 to 3 hours a day is my play time however i spent atleast 6 hours this saturday alone. YAY!! for weekends.
Yes it takes me time to get things done but i am still a casual player. So what if i am not getting a certain peice of armor in one day compared to others who spend 12 hours in game everyday?
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Why do people keep confusing casual players with impatient ones? this game can be played by casuals who don't mind slow progression and results. But if you are looking to have everything within an hour of play everyday than sorry its not that kind of game. I consider myself casual. 2 to 3 hours a day is my play time however i spent atleast 6 hours this saturday alone.
Yes it takes me time to get things done but i am still a casual player.
I had the exact same attitude until I hit rank 20. I dont want everything handed to me but I dont want to spend days searching bazaars tryin to find reasonably priced gear, nor do I want to go on damn forums looking for people selling shit when this is 2010 and I should be able to do that in game. I hope you have that sentiment when you go to upgrade your armor b/c you can no longer kill anything with starting gear rank 20+
This is silly post. in launcah games the economy is always under developed then it starts to click...an AH should be patched in by PS3 launch I think, but point I would make is that at this stage in mmo most players just go through under geared.
Most of us with a bit of common sense and understanding realise this, unfortunately not everyone is on the same wavelength.
I have found 1 problem though since FF14 released, I've run out of popcorn and it's been raining so hard that I just don't want to go and buy some more, also just incase I miss another insightful FF14 poster .
Please though keep the drama coming thick and fast, it really is quite amusing and entertaining and very very prediictable.
This is silly post. in launcah games the economy is always under developed then it starts to click...an AH should be patched in by PS3 launch I think, but point I would make is that at this stage in mmo most players just go through under geared.
Most of us with a bit of common sense and understanding realise this, unfortunately not everyone is on the same wavelength.
I have found 1 problem though since FF14 released, I've run out of popcorn and it's been raining so hard that I just don't want to go and buy some more, also just incase I miss another insightful FF14 poster .
Please though keep the drama coming thick and fast, it really is quite amusing and entertaining and very very prediictable.
and the rest of us, with a lil bit MORE common sense realise that paying for a game until it gets its miracle patch months later is essentially paying for open beta, and that you havent reached the rank yet that will make you unable to level with your starting gear. I do appreciate the fail posts about trying to teach me common sense though, its just I have a bit more forsight then you is all. Ill save myself a few months sub money until they finish the game.
but hey, your sub money on open beta pays the way for development for people with a bit more common sense, much appreciated
Why do people keep confusing casual players with impatient ones? this game can be played by casuals who don't mind slow progression and results. But if you are looking to have everything within an hour of play everyday than sorry its not that kind of game. I consider myself casual. 2 to 3 hours a day is my play time however i spent atleast 6 hours this saturday alone.
Yes it takes me time to get things done but i am still a casual player.
I had the exact same attitude until I hit rank 20. I dont want everything handed to me but I dont want to spend days searching bazaars tryin to find reasonably priced gear, nor do I want to go on damn forums looking for people selling shit when this is 2010 and I should be able to do that in game. I hope you have that sentiment when you go to upgrade your armor b/c you can no longer kill anything with starting gear rank 20+
You know that AH and mail services are being introduced within next month or so right? you think those two things alone will help solve all the problems impatient people have? this topic is just not about AH but over all design of the game. Its not for those who looking for instant gratification.
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I'm just a bit confused here. You say that you have enjoyed the game, and the one complaint you give is that there is not an auction house, no search function, and you don't have the time to craft something?
This is an MMO, and as much as people want to claim that they should be solo friendly, and they are not meant to be played with others, they are wrong. MMOs are social games, and if you want to experience the game you will need to embrace the social aspect.
If you go into any main city, or camp you will see many many people kneeling down crafting items. All you need to do is ask what their trade is, and then tell them what you are looking for. The reason they are crafting, is to make money off other people who don't have the time or patience to craft.
If you don't want to deal with that, you can log on to www.ffxivcore.com and visit their forums. Each forum has a server forum, as well as a sub-forum called the Bazaar. If you look in there, you will see people have actual shops made up and are actively taking orders.
Again, if forums are too social for you too, then you will have to make the stuff yourself. I know that in the "beast" you speak of you can simply run about for an hour and get the materials to have a set of gear made in the 2 minutes time it takes for the little bar to fill up. They went with some realism to this game, and it will take some work to actually make things. Pick a day to work on making the pieces of the armor a little bit at a time. It feels good when you put in the time and effort yourself and end up with that nice gear you were hoping to find.
As others have stated, this information on how crafting works was brought up many times before the launch of the game in other posts and informative news articles about the game. Why blindly spend $75 and then complain about it when the information was easily accessible? Not to mention there was that open beta you could have checked out with the same outcome.
This post shouldn't sound like an asshole trying to flame you, but just someone who is very annoyed with people throwing up posts about how enraged and let down they are by the game. Do your research before you buy something. I was there for CB2/3 and OB. There were enough parts of the game that I enjoyed, and decided if nothing was fixed before launch I would still give the game a shot. I am now enjoying the game myself.
I was not actually interested in the game until I read the OP. So while I agree that it is not casual friendly (if by casual you mean just pick up and play) it certainly seems to have the depth I want. I am looking for more of a virtual world and this seems like if offers that to some degree. I would suggest looking for a guild. Also I would think that things will settle down. UO was the same way. . eventually you found a player vendor you knew would have stuff you wanted and get to know the player even. You might fire off a message and become a regular customer.
I miss those things. Having said that. . the other issues I have heard about are still likely to keep me away.
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I would like a AH in the game. That is my only problem with FF14. I can deal with player made stuff. Reminds me of SWG at launch. If you lvled past the crafter you where out of luck and had to make do with older armor and weps.
Again why FF14 has no AH when FF11 did makes no sence to me.
Also FF11's AH i thought was one of the best AH in MMo's. I loved looking at the last 10 prices and seeing what i can buy a item for.
I do like that this game did not dumb down its self. Like so many games do now.
As my title states, the only point I am trying to make is this: read this thread before you buy this game on the premise that it is a "casual" game, as SE has been claiming it to be.
I guess it depends on your idea of casual. I think if someone was in a guild and the game was a few months in they could do fine. Someone might offer them the gear etc.
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True enough. I'm sure once the game expands and the community grows it'll become easier. Items will be more readily available and prices will have stabilized. Though it certainly isn't for the casual game, not because it's "difficult", but because it'll demand the casual gamer to do far more to achieve X than they like.
Well, then "in a few months" I will take another look at this game, but until then, I'm not going to pay for SE's open beta. When they get done developing the market system(i.e. add a damn AH) I'll look at ffxiv, but not a day before.
At what point did "Casual Game" mean that you are not required to be an active part of the community, or even simple walk up to the guy who has been making "Bronze Gladius's" for the past hour and ask him to look into making a weapon for you? Like I said in my post, making the armor yourself can't be done by a casual player in one sitting...but you could easily spread it out. OR simple go onto a forum that takes less than 5 minutes to do, click on the thread that says "JoJo's Armor Emporium" and ask JoJo to make what you want...then the next time you log in you trade.
Casual games do not mean "If you buy this game, you can solo play to max level in a week, and not have to worry about getting new gear because we will just allow you to pick it up at a merchant using the money you earned while solo playing"
Personally, I have only played 3 days since the release of CE, and maybe 2-4 hours each day. If you ask me, that is casual. Also, I already have some of the gear I will be using once I level up a bit. It really is not hard at all to obtain it, providing the piece you are looking for is not some insane item that has not yet been crafted on your server.
Well, great Grubbs, you and every other satisfied FFXIV player can continue to play the game and I along with the rest of the world will join in when SE finishes up the game by adding a market system. Until then, you can pay to play a game missing one of the most important part of any MMO, an ~economy~ and I will see you at ps3 release when the miracle patch is added and they implement the AH.
Game could be great if 1) they added the NEED to adventure with parties 2) they removed the NEED for parties to acuire BASIC nessessities. Im not talking about rare twink gear im talking about what you need to play the game here.
Yea, it is casual friendly. There is no pvp in the game so there is no reason to rush through the content. Just play some time and level up a few levels and shut it off. That's what I have been doing. I'm not worried about getting level cap and all the good pvp gear , because there is no pvp in this game.
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Was anyone talking about trying to reach lvl cap or getting pvp gear?
I am a little disappointed with the lack of the AH. I find this very surprising due to the fact that FFXI had one, which worked somewhat well. My guess is that SE wanted craftsmen and resource gatherer's to have a face to them, but this comes at a significant inconvenience to the general player. What SE needs to do, if they do not plan to integrate an AH, is to implement a "personal store search" interface that allows a person to see what is available for sale throughout the bazaar area. After they find what they want, have the game give you directions towards that person's shop, or just allow you to purchase the item through the search interface.
Another reason for the change could be to halt the manipulation of the auction house by wealthy players. It has been how a friends and I used to manipulate the AH in FFXI.... we would buy out all the stock of a popular reagent for crafting, such as Beehive Chips, Crystal Clusters, Silk Thread, etc. and then through posting them at higher prices and having your friends purchase them, we would create a fake sales history showing prices that were 50-100% higher than the standard price. I still continue this practice in WoW, purposely creating shortages of popular items to inflate prices and make a profit for almost no effort.
Though I could imagine the bazaar system in FFXIV could work if they would integrate a search interface.
The no AH thing sounds interesting, but i'd have to experience it to see how much it would piss me off or if i enjoy it lol. I like the idea of making an order over forums (just me? lol). And like someone else was saying about the Bazaar in EQ, that could also be fun. It is very pecuilar of SE to get rid of the FFXI auction when it worked rather well.
I personally challege you to find 10 people who are very satisfied with the idea of no AH in game, and never want to see an AH or search bazaar option ever put in FFXIV.
I actually like inter dependant crafting systems, and also like the idea of a player store system that takes us back to closer to what EQ used to be.
The OP has actually helped sell me a little bit on this game.
haha funny, the only people who "like the idea" of the game are thoose with no expierence with it. So why not go buy the game right now instead of posting on forums?
I see alot of mmo companies throwing around the term "Casual Friendly" these days. It is apparently an inocuous buzz word used to lure potential customers to their product due to its subjective nature. Yes I can log in the game and accomplish something in an hour, but when I log in and spend over an hour just trying to find a player who will sell me a gear upgrade to continue my chosen profession as an adventurer, then I think we can all agree that this game will not fit most people's definition of "Casual Friendly".
I do not play the game intending to solo, but I also do not join any group that is accepting as well. I prefer to group with people I get to know in the game, and so far that is becoming difficult due to all the rushing and pre-formed guilds that currently exist in the game. As a person who used to play nearly 80+ hours a week in the past who can no longer due to obligations, I honestly cannot recommend this game to anyone who has limited play time of ~20 hours a week to play unless you already have an established guild and/or friends who do.
I was really hoping that SE would finally bring us a FF MMO that allowed those of us who do not have the time or access to pre-existing communties to pick up and accompish meaningful things in their world, but this game plays more hardcore than games I previously thought were hardcare like old UO, EQ, AC, etc... after levels 15 or so.
The game is also feeling very lacking, and yes I know its new, but it is having to compete with well established games. It plays like a circa 2000-2002 game in a market with many solid and well rounded titles. I expected so much more from such a well established and competent company but the last two FF titles have demonstrated a shift in their focus from content and story to awkward controls and unecessary timesinks.
Cheers!
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Someone once said.
"Its a 2002 game in the middle of 2010 market"
"It has potential"
-Second most used phrase on existence
"It sucks"
-Most used phrase on existence
Minus the graphics how anyone could possibly refute that comment is beyond me.
Why do people keep confusing casual players with impatient ones? this game can be played by casuals who don't mind slow progression and results. But if you are looking to have everything within an hour of play everyday than sorry its not that kind of game. I consider myself casual. 2 to 3 hours a day is my play time however i spent atleast 6 hours this saturday alone. YAY!! for weekends.
Yes it takes me time to get things done but i am still a casual player. So what if i am not getting a certain peice of armor in one day compared to others who spend 12 hours in game everyday?
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho
I had the exact same attitude until I hit rank 20. I dont want everything handed to me but I dont want to spend days searching bazaars tryin to find reasonably priced gear, nor do I want to go on damn forums looking for people selling shit when this is 2010 and I should be able to do that in game. I hope you have that sentiment when you go to upgrade your armor b/c you can no longer kill anything with starting gear rank 20+
Most of us with a bit of common sense and understanding realise this, unfortunately not everyone is on the same wavelength.
I have found 1 problem though since FF14 released, I've run out of popcorn and it's been raining so hard that I just don't want to go and buy some more, also just incase I miss another insightful FF14 poster
.
Please though keep the drama coming thick and fast, it really is quite amusing and entertaining and very very prediictable.
and the rest of us, with a lil bit MORE common sense realise that paying for a game until it gets its miracle patch months later is essentially paying for open beta, and that you havent reached the rank yet that will make you unable to level with your starting gear. I do appreciate the fail posts about trying to teach me common sense though, its just I have a bit more forsight then you is all. Ill save myself a few months sub money until they finish the game.
but hey, your sub money on open beta pays the way for development for people with a bit more common sense, much appreciated
You know that AH and mail services are being introduced within next month or so right? you think those two things alone will help solve all the problems impatient people have? this topic is just not about AH but over all design of the game. Its not for those who looking for instant gratification.
90% of haters are begging for love. 10% just want a little attention -- Paulo Coelho