What does NCsoft have to do with Tera and how did they get rolled into this thread ?
NCsoft is the publisher for Aion & GW and has nothing to do with this game.
Tera will not have a cash shop at Launch and nobody can predect what will happen down the road (can Tor, GW2, Rift, FF). And to tell you the truth I don't give a dam 4 years from now because I can't even predect I will stick around that long.
Lock the thread because it's a dead issue and people are just blowing hot air now...........
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In theory, since it's still a subscription game the item shop should only hold vanity items and maybe xp boosters that doesn't hold a significant impact in the game, any sane person with a IQ higher then a tomato knows that there is a fine line between one player base and the other, most likely it will be like wow's item shop, selling vanity items and whatnot
As soon as Tera dev's said "this is a subscription" game. I lost interest. The fact that they want to double dip in sub and RMT is lame. Lineage 2 , was purely sub , and people could craft the fluff, it worked out well and the game is still active. Butthole Games are setting up for a big big failure with this title , at least for the NA/EU markets. Jus t the thought of a developer trying to double dip in a economic disaster that is the 21st century , makes me want to vomit.
Come play LotrO
The fact that it is a subscription based game that doesn't rely on a shop (no shop at release and only a possibility about a VANITY shop later on) is a reason to be interested in. As long as a game is good enough I for one know that most people would rather pay a subscription than have it F2P with a cash shop. There are many P2P MMOs with a VANITY shop anyway.
There might be lots of mmos with vanity shop, but those game aren't successful on the scale of DDO or LotrO. Vanity shop items used to make game economies blossom because they where rare anda demand in game, but instead of helping regain the status of the might crafters in mmo games of the 4th generation, any old smuck can just buy the item. I guaranteee this about Tera Online, it will go ful;ly free to play with 7months of rerlease with the full spectrum of shop items..., any developer calling themselve "bluehole" is just shady as !@#$...
Uhh, no it won't. Ever heard of WoW? Talk about success. That game has both subscription and vanity shop. And for christ's sake there won't be a RMT economy. The only game I know of that used openly an RMT economy was APB. Almost all games use shops nowadays both P2P and F2P. However, most P2P games use a shop which is mostly for AESTHETIC purposes. There is a difference between vanity shops and cash shops, you should look it up.
On a last note in case you missed it, there is a difference between cash shops and vanity shops, you should look it up.
On a last note, there is not XP booster dammit. That guy, named Euriel is just spitting BS.
There might be lots of mmos with vanity shop, but those game aren't successful on the scale of DDO or LotrO. Vanity shop items used to make game economies blossom because they where rare anda demand in game, but instead of helping regain the status of the might crafters in mmo games of the 4th generation, any old smuck can just buy the item. I guaranteee this about Tera Online, it will go ful;ly free to play with 7months of rerlease with the full spectrum of shop items..., any developer calling themselve "bluehole" is just shady as !@#$...
Uhh, no it won't. Ever heard of WoW? Talk about success. That game has both subscription and vanity shop. And for christ's sake there won't be a RMT economy. The only game I know of that used openly an RMT economy was APB. Almost all games use shops nowadays both P2P and F2P. However, most P2P games use a shop which is mostly for AESTHETIC purposes. There is a difference between vanity shops and cash shops, you should look it up.
On a last note in case you missed it, there is a difference between cash shops and vanity shops, you should look it up.
On a last note, there is not XP booster dammit. That guy, named Euriel is just spitting BS.
Everytime someone fails with a conversation they come up with the one "game" that has nothing do with mmorpg's. .... Aethestics is a crafters Gold Mine. In lineage 2 those masks where selling at one point for 3million adena....
Supporting double dipping in the mmmorpg genre is like saying you haqve 2 entry points for love.
It must have been lost somewhere in the top of the pyramid, but in case you missed it: There is no item shop in launch. And IF there is one, who told you the items are gonna be tradeable? Also, there is no item shop in launch.
I can't see what's your point, most games use a shop anyway, F2P or P2P it doesn't matter, although in P2P games most shops give no advantage. If you hope TERA will make the break in the financial matters, then I'm afraid it won't. It's just something you have to deal with MMOs. And what about Lotro? Even if you pay the subscription, the shop will always be there for more opportunities for the devs to gain money from you like in the games you complain about. I don't see your point?
Maybe you missed the press release where they signed a deal with a item mall solution ?
It's amazing how bad the reading comprehension is of most people on the internet.
For starters Digital River is not an "item mall solution" they handle online transactions. They handle every online transacion available such as digital game copy purchases and monthly subscriptions.
Digital river states on their website that they have the capability to provide an item mall in-game, It doesn't mean that EnMasse is going to have one.
MCdonalds sells Big Macs, It doesn't mean you have to buy one everytime you go there.
Digital River offers En Masse comprehensive e-commerce services that include in-store and in-game capabilities – ranging from global payments, subscriptions, fraud protection and virtual currencies.
Key word here is "offers." This does not imply that En Masse Ent will take advantage of this. They will take advantage of "global payments, subscriptions, fraud protection..." and not necessarily take advantage of "virtual currencies."
If the head dude says "subscription-based" I will believe it until I see otherwise. The rest of you can "hem haw," rant, take anti-depressants, go back to WoW, decide to go with some other MMO.
it seems people are just people and love to see the worst in things before the best .. its supposed to be innocent before proven guilty but instead in our society it really is guilty until proven innocent but you are really never innocent ..
It's good that it's subscription based. It gives them the resources to further improve and make adjustments to the game, which is the whole point of it being subscription based. And by the way, there will be no item shops for TERA, no. Item shops are bad.
What I'm worried about are good games that aren't going to be subscription based like Guild Wars 2; because that means that they will only have a tiny team to respond to all the players' requests, unless they are so confident that the game will be perfect when released.
Going down the route of Subscription + Item shop is just over top greedy. If they are so bent on having an Item shop then it is time to drop the subscription and go free to play like most games are moving toward now.
My theory is that they are reworking TERA to be an item shop based game right now that is why there are delays to the next Focus Group Test and BETA. There has been an almost total blackout of information of what is going on compared to flood of information that was released earlier in the year. Also the markets are changing and they have to take competition from Guild Wars 2 seriously as well as Vindictus which is giving their whole game away for free. There is a harsh reality out there that TERA has spent a lot of money trying to please too few customers which might not exist anymore. They will need to cast a wider net to recoupe their investment costs and that means free 2 play + expensive item shop.
People who doesn't have a clue on anything regarding a game title, or what/which ever it might be, should do some research before speaking about it in public.
This thread should get deleted, or at least, having it's title changed. Why you say? Well, first of all it's inaccurate and second it gives people the idea that Tera will get both subscription and item shop. Which is pretty bad, and again, highly inaccurate. One can only repost EM's(En Masse) reponse so many times. It seems like most people are obviously missing it, and are only responding to the title instead of the actual facts regarding the matter.
I call for lock/delete/edit, which ever suits best.
People who doesn't have a clue on anything regarding a game title, or what/which ever it might be, should do some research before speaking about it in public.
This thread should get deleted, or at least, having it's title changed. Why you say? Well, first of all it's inaccurate and second it gives people the idea that Tera will get both subscription and item shop. Which is pretty bad, and again, highly inaccurate. One can only repost EM's(En Masse) reponse so many times. It seems like most people are obviously missing it, and are only responding to the title instead of the actual facts regarding the matter.
I call for lock/delete/edit, which ever suits best.
I have to second this, the thread is just highly misleading.
Going down the route of Subscription + Item shop is just over top greedy. If they are so bent on having an Item shop then it is time to drop the subscription and go free to play like most games are moving toward now.
My theory is that they are reworking TERA to be an item shop based game right now that is why there are delays to the next Focus Group Test and BETA. There has been an almost total blackout of information of what is going on compared to flood of information that was released earlier in the year. Also the markets are changing and they have to take competition from Guild Wars 2 seriously as well as Vindictus which is giving their whole game away for free. There is a harsh reality out there that TERA has spent a lot of money trying to please too few customers which might not exist anymore. They will need to cast a wider net to recoupe their investment costs and that means free 2 play + expensive item shop.
As someone who's played TERA, Vindictus and is in the HoV group for TERA i have to say that is the dumbest thing i've read in a while.
It's good that it's subscription based. It gives them the resources to further improve and make adjustments to the game, which is the whole point of it being subscription based. And by the way, there will be no item shops for TERA, no. Item shops are bad.
What I'm worried about are good games that aren't going to be subscription based like Guild Wars 2; because that means that they will only have a tiny team to respond to all the players' requests, unless they are so confident that the game will be perfect when released.
Originally posted by Qazz
Originally posted by Greatness
That is why going for Guild Wars 2.
News flash....Guild Wars 1 has an item shop. Silly human.
It has been said, by Anet itself, that they don't believe a subscription model is necessary to provide quality gameplay (this includes maintenance,updates,events,etc...).
An item shop exists in GW1 but it doesn't provide anything necessary or game breaking. You can buy costumes, extra char slots, extra storage... and still enjoy full game content without the need of cash shop items. In 5years + of playing GW1, i've only bought 2 extra character slots (had 8 before).
As for GW2, it will most likely follow the same trend as the former since Anet is known for balanced gameplay (one of the trademarks of GW1) and i don't think they'll break the trend.
Regarding Tera, i think it has been covered already in this thread.
Seems like many players wont have any place to go soon with both Tera and just recently, GW2 out of the picture.
GW2:
"With the transmutation system, you'll be able to acquire new items known as Transmutation Stones through our in-game store that allow you to customize your appearance."
Although it's just for cosmetic purposes, people are bound to go totally crazy like they always do. I'm glad for ArenaNet, additional funds are always appreciated when dealing with MMO's.
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What does NCsoft have to do with Tera and how did they get rolled into this thread ?
NCsoft is the publisher for Aion & GW and has nothing to do with this game.
Tera will not have a cash shop at Launch and nobody can predect what will happen down the road (can Tor, GW2, Rift, FF). And to tell you the truth I don't give a dam 4 years from now because I can't even predect I will stick around that long.
Lock the thread because it's a dead issue and people are just blowing hot air now...........
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
I swear the vast majority of you are purely guilible idiots. And I'm leaving it at that.......... god fucking damnit i hate massively.
In theory, since it's still a subscription game the item shop should only hold vanity items and maybe xp boosters that doesn't hold a significant impact in the game, any sane person with a IQ higher then a tomato knows that there is a fine line between one player base and the other, most likely it will be like wow's item shop, selling vanity items and whatnot
The fact that it is a subscription based game that doesn't rely on a shop (no shop at release and only a possibility about a VANITY shop later on) is a reason to be interested in. As long as a game is good enough I for one know that most people would rather pay a subscription than have it F2P with a cash shop. There are many P2P MMOs with a VANITY shop anyway.
Uhh, no it won't. Ever heard of WoW? Talk about success. That game has both subscription and vanity shop. And for christ's sake there won't be a RMT economy. The only game I know of that used openly an RMT economy was APB. Almost all games use shops nowadays both P2P and F2P. However, most P2P games use a shop which is mostly for AESTHETIC purposes. There is a difference between vanity shops and cash shops, you should look it up.
On a last note in case you missed it, there is a difference between cash shops and vanity shops, you should look it up.
On a last note, there is not XP booster dammit. That guy, named Euriel is just spitting BS.
It must have been lost somewhere in the top of the pyramid, but in case you missed it: There is no item shop in launch. And IF there is one, who told you the items are gonna be tradeable? Also, there is no item shop in launch.
Have a good day.
I can't see what's your point, most games use a shop anyway, F2P or P2P it doesn't matter, although in P2P games most shops give no advantage. If you hope TERA will make the break in the financial matters, then I'm afraid it won't. It's just something you have to deal with MMOs. And what about Lotro? Even if you pay the subscription, the shop will always be there for more opportunities for the devs to gain money from you like in the games you complain about. I don't see your point?
http://www.tera-online.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9200
Here, no vanity shop at launch and only a possibility of later, in which it isn't clarified in the items will even be tradeable among players
Your worries are over. I'll be playing male castanica btw. See you in game.
It's amazing how bad the reading comprehension is of most people on the internet.
For starters Digital River is not an "item mall solution" they handle online transactions. They handle every online transacion available such as digital game copy purchases and monthly subscriptions.
Digital river states on their website that they have the capability to provide an item mall in-game, It doesn't mean that EnMasse is going to have one.
MCdonalds sells Big Macs, It doesn't mean you have to buy one everytime you go there.
The quote from the OP's link:
Digital River offers En Masse comprehensive e-commerce services that include in-store and in-game capabilities – ranging from global payments, subscriptions, fraud protection and virtual currencies.
Key word here is "offers." This does not imply that En Masse Ent will take advantage of this. They will take advantage of "global payments, subscriptions, fraud protection..." and not necessarily take advantage of "virtual currencies."
If the head dude says "subscription-based" I will believe it until I see otherwise. The rest of you can "hem haw," rant, take anti-depressants, go back to WoW, decide to go with some other MMO.
And Paterah's post with the link sums it up very nicely.
http://www.tera-online.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9200
it seems people are just people and love to see the worst in things before the best .. its supposed to be innocent before proven guilty but instead in our society it really is guilty until proven innocent but you are really never innocent ..
It's good that it's subscription based. It gives them the resources to further improve and make adjustments to the game, which is the whole point of it being subscription based. And by the way, there will be no item shops for TERA, no. Item shops are bad.
What I'm worried about are good games that aren't going to be subscription based like Guild Wars 2; because that means that they will only have a tiny team to respond to all the players' requests, unless they are so confident that the game will be perfect when released.
News flash....Guild Wars 1 has an item shop. Silly human.
Going down the route of Subscription + Item shop is just over top greedy. If they are so bent on having an Item shop then it is time to drop the subscription and go free to play like most games are moving toward now.
My theory is that they are reworking TERA to be an item shop based game right now that is why there are delays to the next Focus Group Test and BETA. There has been an almost total blackout of information of what is going on compared to flood of information that was released earlier in the year. Also the markets are changing and they have to take competition from Guild Wars 2 seriously as well as Vindictus which is giving their whole game away for free. There is a harsh reality out there that TERA has spent a lot of money trying to please too few customers which might not exist anymore. They will need to cast a wider net to recoupe their investment costs and that means free 2 play + expensive item shop.
People who doesn't have a clue on anything regarding a game title, or what/which ever it might be, should do some research before speaking about it in public.
This thread should get deleted, or at least, having it's title changed. Why you say? Well, first of all it's inaccurate and second it gives people the idea that Tera will get both subscription and item shop. Which is pretty bad, and again, highly inaccurate. One can only repost EM's(En Masse) reponse so many times. It seems like most people are obviously missing it, and are only responding to the title instead of the actual facts regarding the matter.
I call for lock/delete/edit, which ever suits best.
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*shrug*
if there's an item shop it'll probably only be fluff items for sale anyways..
I'll be playing it!
I have to second this, the thread is just highly misleading.
As someone who's played TERA, Vindictus and is in the HoV group for TERA i have to say that is the dumbest thing i've read in a while.
It has been said, by Anet itself, that they don't believe a subscription model is necessary to provide quality gameplay (this includes maintenance,updates,events,etc...).
An item shop exists in GW1 but it doesn't provide anything necessary or game breaking. You can buy costumes, extra char slots, extra storage... and still enjoy full game content without the need of cash shop items. In 5years + of playing GW1, i've only bought 2 extra character slots (had 8 before).
As for GW2, it will most likely follow the same trend as the former since Anet is known for balanced gameplay (one of the trademarks of GW1) and i don't think they'll break the trend.
Regarding Tera, i think it has been covered already in this thread.
For some poeple those items are necessary, for some poeple gear and appearence for/of their character is the main reason for playing mmo's at all.
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Seems like many players wont have any place to go soon with both Tera and just recently, GW2 out of the picture.
GW2:
"With the transmutation system, you'll be able to acquire new items known as Transmutation Stones through our in-game store that allow you to customize your appearance."
http://www.massively.com/2010/10/01/arenanet-designer-gives-new-details-on-armor-and-loot-in-guild-w/
Although it's just for cosmetic purposes, people are bound to go totally crazy like they always do. I'm glad for ArenaNet, additional funds are always appreciated when dealing with MMO's.
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