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Poll: GW2 VS. SWTOR - who will inherit the WOW throne?
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I'll make sure I stay tuned to find out "Who will inherit WoW's throne?"...
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
My answer:
ALL and Neither.....
Why? Well because each game will be successfull in its own right. Each will have its unique theme and feel to it.
They will all be successful.
As an MMORPG community we have to realize that WOW was the forerunner and innovator that a lot of games template now. thats fine....as a matter of fact thats great because who knows which way the industry would have gone if it were not for WOW's innovation..........
BUT...we have to stop comparing every game to WOW. Its like asking who will succeed more: McDonalds, Burger King, Wendys, Arbys, white castle.....etc......
The Answer: If the product is good....they ALL will....and we as consumers get to choose what we like based on our tastes.
WOW -vs- The Rest is just silly now and has to stop.
Even shit sometimes has corn in it. That's content.
Sometimes poo is soft and other times it's rock hard, that's variety.
Actually the only thing FFXIV even has in common with crap is that it stinks.
but the music's good For 5 minutes - "theartist"
Who wants a single MMO ruling all anyway? Thats just terrible for the genre!
A whole crapload of mediocre mmo's watering down the market is better then?
Get real. One mmo being dominant will not effect the genre at all. If it did, the genre would be in a terrible state as there has been a single dominant mmorpg for many many years.
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..... Each game will have its own following.
Out of the three, I think they each have their own merits. I think GW2 will do well in a number of different areas, but even with a dynamic events system, I just don't feel the longevity will be there. I think it will have roughly the same following as GW1 did, those that love the game will REALLY love it. I think that of the three, GW2 has the most potential to be the better MMO.
SWTOR on the other hand, I believe, will be hands down the better game. The story aspects BioWare produces have been unrivaled in the gaming industry for years, and bringing that level to an MMO and weaving that intricately into the depth of the gameplay and worlds is going to be an amazing thing to see. Many people look at this game on a very topical level, but out of every MMO set to release, I see this one having a longer lasting impact on me -- as other BioWare games did. In that sense, this game will have a wide appeal to a few different styles of gamers, and I think we will see more longevity here without the need for subsequent B2P expansions.
WoW, I just see becoming more popular in the east while losing ground in the west. I believe they'll stand to lose a number of subscribers... but more will probably join as expansions get set to release outside the west. The game will not be going anywhere anytime soon, and its doubtful we will see either of these games surpass WoW, GW2 especially, as it doesn't even run on the same model. There is no way to gauge retention for GW2 and therefore it makes GW2s success a moot point, akin to the success of single player titles.
I was poking fun.. but ya'know whats to say that having 3 equally good and popular MMOs wouldn't have been better for the genre? Thats never happened before so who knows?
It's called a monopoly. Monopoly is a BAD thing at least for the consumer. It leads to laziness and complacency, until it eventually results in the consumer recieving a worse product/service for a more expensive price.
If a game has serious competition then it will do all that's within it's power to be superior to it's competition and the competition will do the same. Overall the consumer generally gets a better product for a cheaper price. If a game has no competition it has no incentive to improve it's product/service and so it'll tend to attempt to maximise it's profits by increasing the price and decraesing the quality of it's product/service since the consumer has no alternative.
It's simply eccomonics, it's also partially the reason why Communism doesn't work.
Hehe, I always thought it will be great. But it wouldn't be bad to have some extra.
SW:TOR is going to be a blockbuster, make no mistake. Bioware is maybe the only other game studio other than blizzard that holds themselves to as high a standard for quality of their finished product. They are marketing geniuses as well and will undoubtedly be one of the only other MMOs to see anywhere near the success that Blizzaerd has seen.
That said... they will not see 12 million subscriptions... or even close... I would be surprised if they see 5 million...
But they will have a wildly successful game on their hands IMO.
I agree WoW will remain on top. Bioware is a great developer. I have not been unhappy with any Bioware game that I have bought. Still, SWToR is a very western game. I do not think the appeal to audiences around the world will be as great.
Btw, Cata is Blizz's best expansion yet from what little I have seen so far. Both Blizzard and Bioware are great Devs.
Basically it depends what you mean with inheriting the WoW throne?
Which Game will keep making the most $?
World of warCraft.For quite a few more years.
Which game will qualitatively be better?
Guildwars 2.
Not SWtor,simply because it barely besides voice overs innovates to please the masses.
Really? Another one of these threads?
WoW will not be "dethroned" by any ONE game. WoW will dethrone itself when enough time has passed. GW2 and SWTOR will both be successful games in their own rights, there's no denying that, but neither will Dethrone WoW from 12 Million subscribers. They MIGHT dig into their sub numbers a little, but not enough to notice most likely. WoW is also a game that the people who very strongly follow it... if they leave for a bit, those people will always go back to what they know.
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Thank you for voicing my opinion so's I don't have to.
I thought folks would have wised up after WAR's astounding THUD.
Because another game comes out that's good(?), that doesn't mean people will suddenly decide that the game they've been playing for years sucks.
What? No Options for:
Darkfall
Warhammer Online
Age of Conan
APB
Hellgate:London
Vanguard
Fury
Champions Online
Pirates of the Burning Sea
Dungeons and Dragons Online
or Star Trek Online
???
Those are the real WOW-killers.
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A little late here for this thread, have you not been reading a month ago...FF14 is to kill WoW once and forall
You missed the point of my post entirely so i will reword it a bit.
There really is no reason to compare Guild Wars 2 to SW-Tor or Wow because no matter what happens with WoW or SW they are both subscription based games so the odds are people will either choose one or the other.Some will choose both but most people ive known wont pay for 2 subscriptions at the same time.They might jump around game to game every few months but they see no point in keeping more then one sub based game active unless the have money to waste.
With Guild Wars you dont have that problem.You buy the game and then you play it as much or as little as you want without having to fork out 15 a month.My post was worded wrong but seriously i don't see any reason why everyone shouldn't at least try out GW2 eventually and with it being buy to play once you try it its there when/if whatever paid sub based game you are playing gets old.
Thats where i was going with my "Why compare the two" post. Based on how fun guild wars alone was to many people and based on all the hype even if GW doesnt hold people attention very long it will still be a successful game because once people get to max level in 3 or 4 weeks in WoW (or sooner) and see all it has to offer GW2 will be there to give them an alternative til new content is released.
Neither game is really a viable substitute product. Perhaps for a few months after the release of these games will you see a drop but people will go back to WoW. They always do. The fact is WoW has a good base, it's a solid game. On top of that it has had years of patching and expansion.
The thing is you are not going to pull of true fans of WoW with either of these games. You may get people who are just playing WoW because there is nothing else for them, but WoW fans will not be satisfied for long by either style of game.
On that I am sure both games will do very well.
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Ur numbers are a bit wrong.
And you cant really compare f2p games like that.
Gw1 had 1,5 million players at their peak. Maybe. Maybe 4.5 sold boxes, countering to blizzards total of 35 million. So yea.
And dont forget Gw1 was a f2p game. As Gw2 will be to. Just imagine how many players would flock in into f2p WoW.
Truth to be told i dont see any of these mmos comming even close to WoW. I dont see how any1 can even expect that. In 6 years was there any mmo that gathered even 1/10th of WoWs base? Stwor has large fan base, but not all of them are into games, and those who are, not all of them are even into mmos. With that said that doesnt leave tens of millions fans left actually. 6 years old game still attracting new audience, well established. WoW will be dethroned when Blizzard pulls the plug.
Blizzard knows how to take care of their behemont. Do you really think they will just sit down and watch? Dont worry for WoW. As much as fans of other franchises want that to happen WoW will be going strong for a very long while.
Wow.
Fanbois of games that do not yet exist...
WOW will have WOW's Throne...
And it can keep it. The community is a cesspool and I'd rather have them stay in that game than turn the communities of new games to crap, too.
Simply put WoW will keep its throne.
^This. There isnt much of a community anymore anyway, LFD took care of the last remnant of Realm community that was hamstrung with BG's going to Battlegroups. Its more like a Daycare centre for kids with Tourettes than a game community.
I dont think any game will dethrone WoW in the nearest future, not GW2, B2Play, or SW:ToR, Voice Acting more than likely raping your HDD space. WoW will continue along its merry way with its 6+ years of players investment who will not give up on that much investment. Whether those two games will develop and foster a community and playerbase that will keep them in profit and bring in new business is a different story. I dont want to see a game fail, however I do want to see more variety in the MMO scene, and more games that are profitable and competing with WoW will hopefully accomplish this by showing companies that it is possible to co-exist with WoW by being different and not a clone. Too many failed MMO's makes me depressed as a gamer, debating whether to hang up my mouse and stop gaming is something I have recently begun to do, I may just break out the Commodore 64 and remind myself of what fun really is.
It still amazes me how people insist that numbers = quality.. Really AMAZING.. We wont' start using the McDonalds thing again.. LOL.. As far as I'm concerned, along with shared feelings by friends, there is no throne.. A game is a game is a game.. this is like people bickering that American football is better then International football, (aka soccer) or Rugby.. They are all differen't sports and are admired by their fans for what they are, it doesnt' make them better..
PS.. There are more international football fans, (soccer) then NFL football fans by far.. Does that make soccer a better sport? NO NO NO NO NO.. and vice versa.. Just like there is more money spent in the GOLF industry worldwide then ANY sport in the world, does that make Golf the best sport in the world? NO NO NO..
I think you all get the idea.. at least I hope you do.. GO Guild Wars 2.. I have been following this new game just recently and I and friends are looking foward to it a lot.. The mechanics of gameplay really look SOCIAL in a non-esport way and isn't that what MMORPG's is suppose to be about? Persistant world events, soft grouping, etc etc.. It all loooks amazing.. I hope the devs can pull it off.. tricky programming ..
Good grief, over half the voters actually think GW2 or SWToR will topple WoW. My confidence in these forums has taken a bit of a hit!