You guys really need to understand the english language a bit better. They expect a lot of revenue beginning in 2011. Nowhere does it say that revenue is guaranteed to include gw2. That is just the BEGINNING of the process. It's also very clear that B&S will be out before gw2.
Yet that same page says that revenue for GW2 starts in 2011... sounds like you're the one who needs the english lesson.
This argument really isn't fair since I am much more well-informed than you, but have you ever heard of pre-orders?
Ahh...Robert with his I'm much better than you persona comes out again, because he says so.
He's probably referring to the page six revenue graph showing both Blade & Soul and GW2 grouped together under 2012 revenues. However, three pages later, Blade & Soul is listed specifically with a 2011 release, so really, this isn't confirming anything. The common theory among the community, which is following GW2's progress very closely, is still for Q2-Q3 2011. But who knows. All we have to go on really is pure speculation. ArenaNet is being infuriatingly coy with dates.
Yeah, I think the graph on that page is confusing, because the little thought bubble is pointing to the bar of 2012, when they're just saying what their projection for sales will be in that year. But it specifically says above it "STARTING with 2011". So yes, that is when it's coming out. And they're being coy because they don't want to disappoint us
Right, and mmonooblet pointed out that both games are given a specific release year of 2011 in the caption above the graph. Also, that bubble may just be referring to all three years which are still forecasts, not just 2012. The bubble pointer may just have been placed there without too much thought as to what impression it would give to ravenous GW-philes.
He's probably referring to the page six revenue graph showing both Blade & Soul and GW2 grouped together under 2012 revenues. However, three pages later, Blade & Soul is listed specifically with a 2011 release, so really, this isn't confirming anything. The common theory among the community, which is following GW2's progress very closely, is still for Q2-Q3 2011.
But who knows. All we have to go on really is pure speculation. ArenaNet is being infuriatingly coy with dates.
Yeah, I think the graph on that page is confusing, because the little thought bubble is pointing to the bar of 2012, when they're just saying what their projection for sales will be in that year. But it specifically says above it "STARTING with 2011". So yes, that is when it's coming out. And they're being coy because they don't want to disappoint us
Right, and mmonooblet pointed out that both games are given a specific release year of 2011 in the caption above the graph. Also, that bubble may just be referring to all three years which are still forecasts, not just 2012. The bubble pointer may just have been placed there without too much thought as to what impression it would give to ravenous GW-philes.
We're all still in the wait and see boat though.
read pg 11
The only game mentioned by name on page 11 is Lineage. Did I miss something?
Damn, it's vaporware then. You better start looking for another game, Croc.
This sorta dramatic response is ridiculous, yes because gw2 isn't slated for 2011 he must be claiming it is vaporware right?
It's highly probable the game is going to be out in 2012, deal with it, or just sit there in denial.
Based on your inside or leaked information eh?
Let's first focus on the fact that you met his post with an irrational and overdramatic response. Jumping from him mentioning the game isn't slated for 2011 in the report, to it being vaporware.
Damn, it's vaporware then. You better start looking for another game, Croc.
see pg 9..not 11:) "Products in the pipeline"
I applaud your circle-jerkular logic, but the fact remains that no date is given for GW2 on that page, and no date means just that: NO DATE. Are you reading tea leaves with RobertDihn or something?
Damn, it's vaporware then. You better start looking for another game, Croc.
This sorta dramatic response is ridiculous, yes because gw2 isn't slated for 2011 he must be claiming it is vaporware right?
It's highly probable the game is going to be out in 2012, deal with it, or just sit there in denial.
Based on your inside or leaked information eh?
Let's first focus on the fact that you met his post with an irrational and overdramatic response. Jumping from him mentioning the game isn't slated for 2011 in the report, to it being vaporware.
So you want to change goalposts again to divert your BS assertion that you know more than all of the media, fansites, and this site?
Damn, it's vaporware then. You better start looking for another game, Croc.
see pg 9..not 11:) "Products in the pipeline"
I applaud your circle-jerkular logic, but the fact remains that no date is given for GW2 on that page, and no date means just that: NO DATE. Are you reading tea leaves with RobertDihn or something?
Damn, it's vaporware then. You better start looking for another game, Croc.
see pg 9..not 11:) "Products in the pipeline"
I applaud your circle-jerkular logic, but the fact remains that no date is given for GW2 on that page, and no date means just that: NO DATE. Are you reading tea leaves with RobertDihn or something?
Damn, it's vaporware then. You better start looking for another game, Croc.
This sorta dramatic response is ridiculous, yes because gw2 isn't slated for 2011 he must be claiming it is vaporware right?
It's highly probable the game is going to be out in 2012, deal with it, or just sit there in denial.
Based on your inside or leaked information eh?
Let's first focus on the fact that you met his post with an irrational and overdramatic response. Jumping from him mentioning the game isn't slated for 2011 in the report, to it being vaporware.
So you want to change goalposts again to divert your BS assertion that you know more than all of the media, fansites, and this site?
The fact that I know information because I am well-informed is not the issue at hand here. The issue at hand is you trolling another poster by misconstruing what he is trying to convey, and dramatizing it. Nowhere did he say gw2 was vapor, he merely pointed out that it wasn't slated for 2011. Which is in no way the same as calling something vaporware.
Damn, it's vaporware then. You better start looking for another game, Croc.
see pg 9..not 11:) "Products in the pipeline"
I applaud your circle-jerkular logic, but the fact remains that no date is given for GW2 on that page, and no date means just that: NO DATE. Are you reading tea leaves with RobertDihn or something?
Possibly Sept/Oct 2011...it's no where near ready to release earlier (Unless we want yet another Warhammer-esque release)
That would be my guess as well.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Possibly Sept/Oct 2011...it's no where near ready to release earlier (Unless we want yet another Warhammer-esque release)
How could you possibly know this?
Not trying to pick on you in particular, but all of this speculation is pointless. None of us actually knows what state the game is in, all we have is the information that is being fed to us by Anet.
NCsoft, the owners of Anet, have told their investors that they plan on releasing GW2 in 2011. That's all we know.
there are four more class to come, so more tests, balance, closed beta, beta and release... we are at least 7 months of release date. wouldnt me surprise if they release in Q1 2012.
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Ahh...Robert with his I'm much better than you persona comes out again, because he says so.
Yeah, I think the graph on that page is confusing, because the little thought bubble is pointing to the bar of 2012, when they're just saying what their projection for sales will be in that year. But it specifically says above it "STARTING with 2011". So yes, that is when it's coming out. And they're being coy because they don't want to disappoint us
Right, and mmonooblet pointed out that both games are given a specific release year of 2011 in the caption above the graph. Also, that bubble may just be referring to all three years which are still forecasts, not just 2012. The bubble pointer may just have been placed there without too much thought as to what impression it would give to ravenous GW-philes.
We're all still in the wait and see boat though.
see pg 9 of whole reportDamn, it's vaporware then. You better start looking for another game, Croc.
This sorta dramatic response is ridiculous, yes because gw2 isn't slated for 2011 he must be claiming it is vaporware right?
It's highly probable the game is going to be out in 2012, deal with it, or just sit there in denial.
The only game mentioned by name on page 11 is Lineage. Did I miss something?
Based on your inside or leaked information eh?
Probable based on what? Your say-so? What have you got that supports this premise?
Damn, it's vaporware then. You better start looking for another game, Croc.
see pg 9..not 11:)"Products in the pipeline"
Let's first focus on the fact that you met his post with an irrational and overdramatic response. Jumping from him mentioning the game isn't slated for 2011 in the report, to it being vaporware.
I applaud your circle-jerkular logic, but the fact remains that no date is given for GW2 on that page, and no date means just that: NO DATE. Are you reading tea leaves with RobertDihn or something?
So you want to change goalposts again to divert your BS assertion that you know more than all of the media, fansites, and this site?
Damn, it's vaporware then. You better start looking for another game, Croc.
see pg 9..not 11:) "Products in the pipeline"I applaud your circle-jerkular logic, but the fact remains that no date is given for GW2 on that page, and no date means just that: NO DATE. Are you reading tea leaves with RobertDihn or something?
now see pg 6 againI've addressed that already, here: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3864128 and http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3864158
I'm not playing 'Round the Mulberry Bush with you anymore. Read what you want into it.
The fact that I know information because I am well-informed is not the issue at hand here. The issue at hand is you trolling another poster by misconstruing what he is trying to convey, and dramatizing it. Nowhere did he say gw2 was vapor, he merely pointed out that it wasn't slated for 2011. Which is in no way the same as calling something vaporware.
Damn, it's vaporware then. You better start looking for another game, Croc.
see pg 9..not 11:) "Products in the pipeline"I applaud your circle-jerkular logic, but the fact remains that no date is given for GW2 on that page, and no date means just that: NO DATE. Are you reading tea leaves with RobertDihn or something?
now see pg 6 againI've addressed that already, here: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3864128 and http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3864158
I'm not playing 'Round the Mulberry Bush with you anymore. Read what you want into it.
it looks like you will be able to preorder the game starting 12/12/2011...with a collector edition you will get nice Duke Nukem emote in 2012
My $.002 is 4th quarter of 2011, but I have no info to base this on. 2012 though? Not sure where you are getting your info.
February 2011.
https://i.imgur.com/Dc8dU3M.png
Not a chance
Possibly Sept/Oct 2011...it's no where near ready to release earlier (Unless we want yet another Warhammer-esque release)
That would be my guess as well.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
How could you possibly know this?
Not trying to pick on you in particular, but all of this speculation is pointless. None of us actually knows what state the game is in, all we have is the information that is being fed to us by Anet.
NCsoft, the owners of Anet, have told their investors that they plan on releasing GW2 in 2011. That's all we know.
there are four more class to come, so more tests, balance, closed beta, beta and release... we are at least 7 months of release date. wouldnt me surprise if they release in Q1 2012.
I know this is meant to excite investors, but look at page 30... really? You don't need to be Mantracker to see where the camel walked... ><
Oderint, dum metuant.
I think it will be end 2011, but a 2012 release wouldn't surprise me either.
The demo I played was nearly bugfree, but that's only like .1% of the game.
Just wait and see in february, even if it's not released, something will happen! Woooo!
https://i.imgur.com/Dc8dU3M.png