Ambassador Dvinn Is there anyone who played Everquest who didn't go to Crushbone? Is there anyone who has gone to CB who hasn't been slain by this Dark Elf in a massive train?
Yay, sitting meditating staring at your book (it was not possible to see while meditating back then), dvinn hits you for ... uh oh where did that one come from..
While we are at it, all of kitchikor forest. First time I wanted to cross I met a player outside, and he said "Dont walk Kitchikor at night", I didnt know what he was on about but I learned ... awesome, this kind of stuff is what mmo's are missing. Now flame me for beeing a old idiot with opinions.
Speaking of bad trains being caused by a mob, General V`Deers should be given some props as well. Hearing that guy coming near would cause folks to run for the zone line faster than they could spell their own names.
+ Daisy (or was she a -? can't remember - it's been so long) I actually had backups of a few capped fights with her - but that drive finally died a couple of years ago. Her main claim to fame was that she used to eat people - although that eventually got 'nerfed'
Bonus points to anyone who actually remembers who that is !
+Daisy resided on the -4 level of the Kesmai dungeon in Islands/Legends of Kesmai. Some of my fondest memories of the original "MMO" experience originated with that game.
The ones you mentioned I can care less about. Sorry to be mean...I just didn't care much about those games and I come from the realm of early gaming...enough to compare baddies from super old games and new games.
Here is my partial list not in any Order:
Locke --- UT99: This bot was set to 100% accuracy in Unreal Tournament. In Godlike Difficulty mode, this one would really kill you...proving to be deadlier than Xan Kriegor simply because its programming worked on practically every single map out there. 100% accuracy = Aimbot without ping Excellent practice to sharpen up your aim with dual enforcers or sniper rifle (c'mon, we all love our snipes)
The four ghosts of Pac-Man: Sure, the early levels are easy, but even the ditzy pink ghost will smarten up by level 3 - 4. That is a game you could pop in 100 - 1000 quarters back then and if you were not caffeinated and completely concentrated on the game your lives would be toast. In fact the AI programming does entrapment better today than any video game that has been released. Back then difficulty actually was about increased AI against your skill without giving you hundreds of handicapps and enemies 100s of bonuses or ridiculous stats like today.
Castlevania III: The ENTIRE game as a whole had challenge written all over it. a NES game that broke many people...Specially the difficulty of that version's dracula that could own you in no time flat. ^^
Everquest 1 (Divine Dragon): The Divine Dragon. EQ2 had its story shaped because it took 300+ Players in different groups fighting for MANY hours to kill the Divine Dragon.
NeoX-Death: This was the final boss to Final Fantasy V. Its main attack would KILL a character and turn that character to stone. One dead character meant you lost part of the game ending. There were only two real ways to win against this boss with your entire party intact.
Dungeons and Dragon: ANY DRAGON at ANY AGE at Second or Third Edition. A hatchling Red Dragon could kill off easilly a lone level 5 - level 10 warrior. However Terasque at the time were the strongest enemies...They had TONS Of HP and in order to kill one, you needed an entire army to reduce its HP to -30 and then cast a wish spell (age your character five years) to finally destroy it.
Ultima Series of Games: Sacrificial Altars and Orbs....Ok, anyone who ever played through the early ultima games knew their severity...In early games if your party leader died, the game was over. Touching a sacrifice orb or alter could oneshot a character (including a leader) and send you back to a save slot...and they had a 75% chance of going critical on you.
Final Fantasy XII: Elementals: Any player of FF12 (that game was a singleplayer game that felt like an mmo in its environment), knew the risk of dealing with elementals. Any field you were in the Elementals had Environmental advantage...Every player can recall at least one memory of being nearly annihilated by one of them.
Plenty from mmorpgs come to mind, but most are really generic. A lot of high-stat enemies players or parties try to kill...I remember from the CORPG Guild Wars how a lot of enemies had tricks to beating them, like Drakes were better fought Solo, while Necros were for striking down Shiro...etc,
I remember Ragnarok Online, the different times my character was "Killed by Food" early on, like a sunny-side up Egg with a Frying pan or an egg kicking me to death...I laughed a lot during those times.
If you were to include every genre of game you've played you can find some crazy baddies ^_^
I totally forgot about this one. I never got into AC, but an old co-worker of mine was all over it and I can't ever forget how excited he was to tell me about the night he ran into that thing with his guild.
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Lineage 2: Antharas. I never got to fight her, but i saw the videos and just seeing that beast makes onyxia look like a toy. Ever dragon since i saw her cant seem to compare except for the later dragons they added in lineage 2.
EQ1: orcs...... i remember a dungeon outside of the elven city/village that alot of people used to go to. I remember all the trains .. deaths .... and eventually being able to kill every single one of those stupid orcs, i hated those guys.
SWG: Krayts. My first encounter with a krayt was filled with awe and pain. They used to be really special until people were able to solo them.
UO: liches. I really hated these guys as well, had the hardest time killing them.
thats pretty much all i can think of atm.
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The Solens in UO still creep me out to this day, and I'm not a 'fear of spiders' person. But watching them rush along and go in their holes..creepy, especially when you aren't a GM in anything and happen upon them looking for plots of land.
Probably the most memorable for me would be Onyxia in the original WoW before TBC. MORE DOTS!
One of the best would be Talazar raids in Ashen Empires (Dransik), He was controlled by a GM and summoned hundreds of demons and such to raid a town...now I feel old
I loved fighting Cuuldurach the Glimmer King pre-nerf. Took a couple hours to get to him, and the fight against him could last 15 minutes or over an hour. And he could hurt badly. Needed a literal army to bring him down, too. Not enough boss baddies that need armies are out there anymore.
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I've recently tried playing Vindictus and I've encountered the very first boss that's actually challenging for me and will most likely shoot his way to notoriety very quickly as soon as the game goes live.
Gnoll Chieftain.
And silly little stupid me, I tried doing that Warrior's Challenge Oath of Honor for Decisive Battle as a level 10 Fiona and it was INSANE. Took me well over 40 minutes to beat him in the final battle and that was because I had to really use my environment to my advantage. If you go in without a battle plan, his hammer will pound your brain into oblivion, I kid you not.
All the most memorable video game characters for me come from console/single player games. MMOS, I'm more excited about the character I'm playing, the skills, equipment, teammates, the battles. You tend to mow down most bad guys without much trouble, and most of the bosses aren't too tough either - once you know what you're doing. Some bosses in MMOs are part of the story arch, but once again, it's about your own character in an MMO. In single player games, the bosses take on a life of their own. Favorites include the ones in the Final Fantasy series. Golbez, Kefka, Sephiroth. Those were just the main ones. The four fiends in FF2, I loved those battles, they were epic.
Maybe I'm biased because I grew up with that, and those were my first and formative experiences, back when it was all brand new. Now I suppose, my expectations are higher, after decades of gaming. But part of me feels like MMOs have dropped the ball when it comes to making memorable characters and villains. The ones you face are fun, and somewhat interesting. But you kill them, loot them, and it's on to the next one. It doesn't affect the "story" much. Because it has to be repeatable, not just for you and your group but for everyone. So the world goes on like what you do doesn't matter much. I like effects such as the dragon heads mounted on poles that they have in WoW, after a raid beats them. When you kill a massive enemy, chop off it's head and put the sucker on display in the town. That right there makes it more memorable.
Mine happens to be from EQ, which apparently isn't cool because its from and older MMO..?
lol Anyway, I really don't even remember his name (any help?) but I'll never forget him. To this day he is the most successful bane's of my video game existance, ever. The random high-level (relative to the zone) necromancer that roamed the Qeynos Hills praying on noobs.
EQ was my first MMO and I started out as a Ranger in Surefall. Naturally I eventually wanted to explore my surrounding and no matter how careful I was, I inevitably ended up facedown kissing dirt after this guy unleashed hell on me out of the blue. Every once in a while I got lucky, saw him coming and had the opportunity to haul ass for the closest zoneline screaming like a.. well.. noob.
I vowed to get up to his level and come back and whoop him one day. Well, clearly I didn't really understand the EQ con system cause when I got up to his level and returned, he whooped my ass again yed again lol and I learned about some concept called 'under-conning' lol. Damn I hated that guy.
Tovax Vmar was his name... I fell victim to him quite a few times on my half elf rogue.. lol.
My top 5 for EverQuest would have to be...
#5 A Prismatic Basilisk - Plane of EarthA, randomly spawns on peoples heads when running around. God I hated that thing.
#4 Sir Lucan D`Lere - Soooo I had a pally friend that was doing the soulfire quest and he needed some help... Grats to me on being the newest red-headed step child to the guards of Freeport.. lol.
#3 Ambassador DVinn - ANYONE who's ANYONE (would played a wood/high elf or dwarf remembers this guy. "/shout DVINN TO ZONE!!" Ring a bell anyone? Man, those were the days. =D
#2 Fippy Darkpaw - Grrr. Bark. Bark. Grrr. Now spawning Fippy_Darkpaw191873782. He's the idol of EverQuest and beats Hogger from WoW, hands down.
and... #1 Baddie for me... (which may be a little odd but fun, nonetheless)
The Priest of Discord - So many memories of this guy. He was used as a meeting place in cities. If you fought him, he had a super amount of hps and nearly 100% magic resistance. Not to mention he kinda had that pornstar look to him with those mutton chops! HAHA. Yeah, would have to say he's my #1 Baddie of EQ. Definitely the uberest of all indifferent NPCS of vanilla EverQuest. A norrathian badass.
Anyone remember Kizdean Gix in the Commons in EQ1. As a level 10 or 12, you have just progressed out of the newbie zone and are killing an orc warriors and suddenly this guy comes up and Harm Touches you for 300 points. Hated him so much.
Or the other famous shout "Sand Giant to the Docks". lol those were the days!
"One spell to mez them all, One spell to charm them, One spell to drain their mana, and in the... Oh, HELL! Who's not assisting!?"
And I hate you people...now I want to play EQ again. Remember the An Orc Warrior versus the A Orc Warrior...never was an article such an important piece of information. lol
"One spell to mez them all, One spell to charm them, One spell to drain their mana, and in the... Oh, HELL! Who's not assisting!?"
I've recently tried playing Vindictus and I've encountered the very first boss that's actually challenging for me and will most likely shoot his way to notoriety very quickly as soon as the game goes live.
Gnoll Chieftain.
And silly little stupid me, I tried doing that Warrior's Challenge Oath of Honor for Decisive Battle as a level 10 Fiona and it was INSANE. Took me well over 40 minutes to beat him in the final battle and that was because I had to really use my environment to my advantage. If you go in without a battle plan, his hammer will pound your brain into oblivion, I kid you not.
Oh my friend...my poor poor friend If Gnoll Chieftain is challenging for you then you are gonna get FLATTENED by the Kobold Chief.
Kobold Chief the Slingshot Bros and the White Tyrant are memorable from Vindictus
As far as broadly based Baddies in an MMO I'd have to say Lady Vashj in WoW:BC
The Boss Lightrunner in Tabula Rasa (he was harder to nail down than a speeding bullet train)
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Yay, sitting meditating staring at your book (it was not possible to see while meditating back then), dvinn hits you for ... uh oh where did that one come from..
While we are at it, all of kitchikor forest. First time I wanted to cross I met a player outside, and he said "Dont walk Kitchikor at night", I didnt know what he was on about but I learned ... awesome, this kind of stuff is what mmo's are missing. Now flame me for beeing a old idiot with opinions.
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Speaking of bad trains being caused by a mob, General V`Deers should be given some props as well. Hearing that guy coming near would cause folks to run for the zone line faster than they could spell their own names.
+Daisy resided on the -4 level of the Kesmai dungeon in Islands/Legends of Kesmai. Some of my fondest memories of the original "MMO" experience originated with that game.
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The ones you mentioned I can care less about. Sorry to be mean...I just didn't care much about those games and I come from the realm of early gaming...enough to compare baddies from super old games and new games.
Here is my partial list not in any Order:
Locke --- UT99: This bot was set to 100% accuracy in Unreal Tournament. In Godlike Difficulty mode, this one would really kill you...proving to be deadlier than Xan Kriegor simply because its programming worked on practically every single map out there. 100% accuracy = Aimbot without ping
Excellent practice to sharpen up your aim with dual enforcers or sniper rifle (c'mon, we all love our snipes)
The four ghosts of Pac-Man: Sure, the early levels are easy, but even the ditzy pink ghost will smarten up by level 3 - 4. That is a game you could pop in 100 - 1000 quarters back then and if you were not caffeinated and completely concentrated on the game your lives would be toast. In fact the AI programming does entrapment better today than any video game that has been released. Back then difficulty actually was about increased AI against your skill without giving you hundreds of handicapps and enemies 100s of bonuses or ridiculous stats like today.
Castlevania III: The ENTIRE game as a whole had challenge written all over it. a NES game that broke many people...Specially the difficulty of that version's dracula that could own you in no time flat. ^^
Everquest 1 (Divine Dragon): The Divine Dragon. EQ2 had its story shaped because it took 300+ Players in different groups fighting for MANY hours to kill the Divine Dragon.
NeoX-Death: This was the final boss to Final Fantasy V. Its main attack would KILL a character and turn that character to stone. One dead character meant you lost part of the game ending. There were only two real ways to win against this boss with your entire party intact.
Dungeons and Dragon: ANY DRAGON at ANY AGE at Second or Third Edition. A hatchling Red Dragon could kill off easilly a lone level 5 - level 10 warrior. However Terasque at the time were the strongest enemies...They had TONS Of HP and in order to kill one, you needed an entire army to reduce its HP to -30 and then cast a wish spell (age your character five years) to finally destroy it.
Ultima Series of Games: Sacrificial Altars and Orbs....Ok, anyone who ever played through the early ultima games knew their severity...In early games if your party leader died, the game was over. Touching a sacrifice orb or alter could oneshot a character (including a leader) and send you back to a save slot...and they had a 75% chance of going critical on you.
Final Fantasy XII: Elementals: Any player of FF12 (that game was a singleplayer game that felt like an mmo in its environment), knew the risk of dealing with elementals. Any field you were in the Elementals had Environmental advantage...Every player can recall at least one memory of being nearly annihilated by one of them.
Plenty from mmorpgs come to mind, but most are really generic. A lot of high-stat enemies players or parties try to kill...I remember from the CORPG Guild Wars how a lot of enemies had tricks to beating them, like Drakes were better fought Solo, while Necros were for striking down Shiro...etc,
I remember Ragnarok Online, the different times my character was "Killed by Food" early on, like a sunny-side up Egg with a Frying pan or an egg kicking me to death...I laughed a lot during those times.
If you were to include every genre of game you've played you can find some crazy baddies ^_^
10000% agree
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I totally forgot about this one. I never got into AC, but an old co-worker of mine was all over it and I can't ever forget how excited he was to tell me about the night he ran into that thing with his guild.
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a few that stick out in my mind are:
Lineage 2: Antharas. I never got to fight her, but i saw the videos and just seeing that beast makes onyxia look like a toy. Ever dragon since i saw her cant seem to compare except for the later dragons they added in lineage 2.
EQ1: orcs...... i remember a dungeon outside of the elven city/village that alot of people used to go to. I remember all the trains .. deaths .... and eventually being able to kill every single one of those stupid orcs, i hated those guys.
SWG: Krayts. My first encounter with a krayt was filled with awe and pain. They used to be really special until people were able to solo them.
UO: liches. I really hated these guys as well, had the hardest time killing them.
thats pretty much all i can think of atm.
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Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
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Yeah she was the first villain I thought about when I read the title of the article.
"You are the hero our legends have foretold will save our tribe, therefore please go kill 10 pigs."
The Solens in UO still creep me out to this day, and I'm not a 'fear of spiders' person. But watching them rush along and go in their holes..creepy, especially when you aren't a GM in anything and happen upon them looking for plots of land.
the White rabbit of asherons call that is the most horrific mob to face the white rabbit smites you!
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Probably the most memorable for me would be Onyxia in the original WoW before TBC. MORE DOTS!
One of the best would be Talazar raids in Ashen Empires (Dransik), He was controlled by a GM and summoned hundreds of demons and such to raid a town...now I feel old
Van Cleefe and Foxbat is badass
I have the same nostalgia when it comes to Van Cleefe and the defilers in westfall aswell. Deadmines were my favorite dungeon for quite long time.
I loved fighting Cuuldurach the Glimmer King pre-nerf. Took a couple hours to get to him, and the fight against him could last 15 minutes or over an hour. And he could hurt badly. Needed a literal army to bring him down, too. Not enough boss baddies that need armies are out there anymore.
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This has got to be my most memorable MMORPG baddy.
I've recently tried playing Vindictus and I've encountered the very first boss that's actually challenging for me and will most likely shoot his way to notoriety very quickly as soon as the game goes live.
Gnoll Chieftain.
And silly little stupid me, I tried doing that Warrior's Challenge Oath of Honor for Decisive Battle as a level 10 Fiona and it was INSANE. Took me well over 40 minutes to beat him in the final battle and that was because I had to really use my environment to my advantage. If you go in without a battle plan, his hammer will pound your brain into oblivion, I kid you not.
Fippy darkpaw was the first that came to mind but Holly "Natural selection in progress" windstalker is a fond memory to,
no one mentioned good ol Cazel
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insane guy with regen up the wazoo
All the most memorable video game characters for me come from console/single player games. MMOS, I'm more excited about the character I'm playing, the skills, equipment, teammates, the battles. You tend to mow down most bad guys without much trouble, and most of the bosses aren't too tough either - once you know what you're doing. Some bosses in MMOs are part of the story arch, but once again, it's about your own character in an MMO. In single player games, the bosses take on a life of their own. Favorites include the ones in the Final Fantasy series. Golbez, Kefka, Sephiroth. Those were just the main ones. The four fiends in FF2, I loved those battles, they were epic.
Maybe I'm biased because I grew up with that, and those were my first and formative experiences, back when it was all brand new. Now I suppose, my expectations are higher, after decades of gaming. But part of me feels like MMOs have dropped the ball when it comes to making memorable characters and villains. The ones you face are fun, and somewhat interesting. But you kill them, loot them, and it's on to the next one. It doesn't affect the "story" much. Because it has to be repeatable, not just for you and your group but for everyone. So the world goes on like what you do doesn't matter much. I like effects such as the dragon heads mounted on poles that they have in WoW, after a raid beats them. When you kill a massive enemy, chop off it's head and put the sucker on display in the town. That right there makes it more memorable.
Murlocs.
Arrrrggggghhhh...
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#2 Bad Bobby (Titans4U) largest scam worth of $70k
#3 Karttoon (Goonswarm CEO) for disbanding the alliance and stealing all the assets worth $23k
#4 Remedial (Goonswarm founder and CEO) just for Founding and leading the alliance in 2006-2007
#5 SirMolle (BOB and IT founder and CEO) for all the treachery and backstabbing during BOB era between 2005-2007
Tovax Vmar was his name... I fell victim to him quite a few times on my half elf rogue.. lol.
My top 5 for EverQuest would have to be...
#5 A Prismatic Basilisk - Plane of EarthA, randomly spawns on peoples heads when running around. God I hated that thing.
#4 Sir Lucan D`Lere - Soooo I had a pally friend that was doing the soulfire quest and he needed some help... Grats to me on being the newest red-headed step child to the guards of Freeport.. lol.
#3 Ambassador DVinn - ANYONE who's ANYONE (would played a wood/high elf or dwarf remembers this guy. "/shout DVINN TO ZONE!!" Ring a bell anyone? Man, those were the days. =D
#2 Fippy Darkpaw - Grrr. Bark. Bark. Grrr. Now spawning Fippy_Darkpaw191873782. He's the idol of EverQuest and beats Hogger from WoW, hands down.
and... #1 Baddie for me... (which may be a little odd but fun, nonetheless)
The Priest of Discord - So many memories of this guy. He was used as a meeting place in cities. If you fought him, he had a super amount of hps and nearly 100% magic resistance. Not to mention he kinda had that pornstar look to him with those mutton chops! HAHA. Yeah, would have to say he's my #1 Baddie of EQ. Definitely the uberest of all indifferent NPCS of vanilla EverQuest. A norrathian badass.
Anyone remember Kizdean Gix in the Commons in EQ1. As a level 10 or 12, you have just progressed out of the newbie zone and are killing an orc warriors and suddenly this guy comes up and Harm Touches you for 300 points. Hated him so much.
Or the other famous shout "Sand Giant to the Docks". lol those were the days!
"One spell to mez them all,
One spell to charm them,
One spell to drain their mana,
and in the... Oh, HELL! Who's not assisting!?"
OOO...or the tentacle terrors and Hags in Unrest...HATED people who dragged the basement trash to the wall.
"One spell to mez them all,
One spell to charm them,
One spell to drain their mana,
and in the... Oh, HELL! Who's not assisting!?"
And I hate you people...now I want to play EQ again. Remember the An Orc Warrior versus the A Orc Warrior...never was an article such an important piece of information. lol
"One spell to mez them all,
One spell to charm them,
One spell to drain their mana,
and in the... Oh, HELL! Who's not assisting!?"
Oh my friend...my poor poor friend If Gnoll Chieftain is challenging for you then you are gonna get FLATTENED by the Kobold Chief.
Kobold Chief the Slingshot Bros and the White Tyrant are memorable from Vindictus
As far as broadly based Baddies in an MMO I'd have to say Lady Vashj in WoW:BC
The Boss Lightrunner in Tabula Rasa (he was harder to nail down than a speeding bullet train)