Cool. You like the game. Seven other people also like the game. 9 catrillion people found it to be extremely subpar - like shooting a 193 on a par 72.
So more people than exist on planet Earth have even tried FFXIV?
Impressive.
How about this... the game was received so badly that SE and co not only asked reviewers not to review it but have given away 2 months free of game time to try to get people to stick around. They've openly admitted that people simply don't like it.
I'm not sure what more you want. The haters are wrong, the reviewers are wrong, the devs and publishers are wrong, the majority of the people that tried the game are wrong, but this extreme minority are the only ones worth listening to?
Cool. You like the game. Seven other people also like the game. 9 catrillion people found it to be extremely subpar - like shooting a 193 on a par 72.
So more people than exist on planet Earth have even tried FFXIV?
Impressive.
How about this... the game was received so badly that SE and co not only asked reviewers not to review it but have given away 2 months free of game time to try to get people to stick around. They've openly admitted that people simply don't like it.
I'm not sure what more you want. The haters are wrong, the reviewers are wrong, the devs and publishers are wrong, the majority of the people that tried the game are wrong, but this extreme minority are the only ones worth listening to?
I will have to simply disagree lol.
I like it!
Falls into the 'everyone else does it so it must be right!' category. Or better yet 'If everyone else jumps off the bridge does that mean you will?' or my personal favorite 'Thats how we have always done it, so it must be right!'.
Not saying the minority is right or wrong, but believing the minority MUST be wrong simply because they are the minority is just silly, really.
Cool. You like the game. Seven other people also like the game. 9 catrillion people found it to be extremely subpar - like shooting a 193 on a par 72.
So more people than exist on planet Earth have even tried FFXIV?
Impressive.
How about this... the game was received so badly that SE and co not only asked reviewers not to review it but have given away 2 months free of game time to try to get people to stick around. They've openly admitted that people simply don't like it.
I'm not sure what more you want. The haters are wrong, the reviewers are wrong, the devs and publishers are wrong, the majority of the people that tried the game are wrong, but this extreme minority are the only ones worth listening to?
I will have to simply disagree lol.
I might be the minority in this forum, but a lot of people play FFXIV so overall I'm not the minority the haters could be the minority. It's a shame the people enjoying the game aren't worried enough to say more about it... I was trying to give people who haven't tried it a different idea beside all the negative comments others have posted.
Not to my surprise a bunch of negative people jump on me like I'm the bad guy for saying the game is worth buying, and is worth playing.
If you choose to hate the game fine.. I'm sorry you're wasting your time on FFXIV forum waiting for an oppertunity to say something negative about it. I came on her wanting to give the game a positive perception by someone who actually has spent time leveling up, and exploring the world... Adventuring into all the harvesting and crafts.
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Cool. You like the game. Seven other people also like the game. 9 catrillion people found it to be extremely subpar - like shooting a 193 on a par 72.
So more people than exist on planet Earth have even tried FFXIV?
Impressive.
How about this... the game was received so badly that SE and co not only asked reviewers not to review it but have given away 2 months free of game time to try to get people to stick around. They've openly admitted that people simply don't like it.
I'm not sure what more you want. The haters are wrong, the reviewers are wrong, the devs and publishers are wrong, the majority of the people that tried the game are wrong, but this extreme minority are the only ones worth listening to?
I will have to simply disagree lol.
I might be the minority in this forum, but a lot of people play FFXIV so overall I'm not the minority the haters could be the minority. It's a shame the people enjoying the game aren't worried enough to say more about it... I was trying to give people who haven't tried it a different idea beside all the negative comments others have posted.
Not to my surprise a bunch of negative people jump on me like I'm the bad guy for saying the game is worth buying, and is worth playing.
If you choose to hate the game fine.. I'm sorry you're wasting your time on FFXIV forum waiting for an oppertunity to say something negative about it. I came on her wanting to give the game a positive perception by someone who actually has spent time leveling up, and exploring the world... Adventuring into all the harvesting and crafts.
No worries, I am here to do the same when the urge arises. To give the experience of someone that has spent time leveling up and exploring the world etc.
Seems we have at least that in common lol.
But nah, I saw the title and thought there was a patch maybe that had fixed a lot to turn things around. After reading the OP well lol... I felt the need to reply.
And no worries, I can guarantee fans are in the minority and I can prove it
There is no monthly fee for 3 months after launch... <--- thats all that needs to be said to prove fans are in the minority. The devs and such have stated the game hasn't done as well as they had hoped, to make up for it... here's some free time.
Glad you found a game you like, but things are what they are. I like Anchovies, doesn't mean a pizza with anchovies is going to go over well with those I know lol.
And don't worry it's not wasting time. The fate of FFXIV after a launch like it had has potential to effect the genre, at this point it's a must to check back in every so often to see whats developed.
I bought this game on launch with high hopes. I gave it almost a month before I decided it was crap. Then the reviews came in and they said it was crap. Then the people that created the game said it was crap.
Congrats on enjoying this game. I wish i was easily amused as you.
I have read a few peoples post that the creators called their game crap. Can someone post a link to that or is this something people have formed opinions on because of the extended free time and the upcoming patches. I would just like to see where they called this game "crap".
Cool. You like the game. Seven other people also like the game. 9 catrillion people found it to be extremely subpar - like shooting a 193 on a par 72.
So more people than exist on planet Earth have even tried FFXIV?
Impressive.
How about this... the game was received so badly that SE and co not only asked reviewers not to review it but have given away 2 months free of game time to try to get people to stick around. They've openly admitted that people simply don't like it.
I'm not sure what more you want. The haters are wrong, the reviewers are wrong, the devs and publishers are wrong, the majority of the people that tried the game are wrong, but this extreme minority are the only ones worth listening to?
I will have to simply disagree lol.
I might be the minority in this forum, but a lot of people play FFXIV so overall I'm not the minority the haters could be the minority. It's a shame the people enjoying the game aren't worried enough to say more about it... I was trying to give people who haven't tried it a different idea beside all the negative comments others have posted.
Not to my surprise a bunch of negative people jump on me like I'm the bad guy for saying the game is worth buying, and is worth playing.
If you choose to hate the game fine.. I'm sorry you're wasting your time on FFXIV forum waiting for an oppertunity to say something negative about it. I came on her wanting to give the game a positive perception by someone who actually has spent time leveling up, and exploring the world... Adventuring into all the harvesting and crafts.
No worries, I am here to do the same when the urge arises. To give the experience of someone that has spent time leveling up and exploring the world etc.
Seems we have at least that in common lol.
But nah, I saw the title and thought there was a patch maybe that had fixed a lot to turn things around. After reading the OP well lol... I felt the need to reply.
And no worries, I can guarantee fans are in the minority and I can prove it
There is no monthly fee for 3 months after launch... <--- thats all that needs to be said to prove fans are in the minority. The devs and such have stated the game hasn't done as well as they had hoped, to make up for it... here's some free time.
Glad you found a game you like, but things are what they are. I like Anchovies, doesn't mean a pizza with anchovies is going to go over well with those I know lol.
And don't worry it's not wasting time. The fate of FFXIV after a launch like it had has potential to effect the genre, at this point it's a must to check back in every so often to see whats developed.
Me too actually, and yet nobody in my family does... Oh well anyways... I guess we all enjoy what we enjoy I just hope maybe some of you will give it a chance yet again when the patches release.... You never know, I might be the level 50 you need to help you haha
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I have read a few peoples post that the creators called their game crap. Can someone post a link to that or is this something people have formed opinions on because of the extended free time and the upcoming patches. I would just like to see where they called this game "crap".
Yeah be careful what you read.... I never read anywhere .. on ANY website where they said there own game was crap... I doubt a game designer, after spending all his ideas and hard work into a game 5 years in development would say... "blah this is crap, next piece of paper!!!"
Sorry
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"Have to disagree with you here,Kyleran.Someone posting their opinion of something being good - no matter how many disagree - is no more baiting than someone posting about it being bad - again, no matter how many disagree. There is absolutely nothing offensive in the OP that could fairly be considered baiting.Of course people are going to pounce on it and start an argument... But that's their problem, not the OP's.If that's the case, then no one should ever post an opinion about anything, because it could be considered "baiting" by those on the other side.Now their later statement regarding "cry-babies"... yeah that's a bit inflammatory"
Well said, I'm surprised someone would think what the OP originally said was baiting people. I don't know what the trend going here is all about, but it's rather funny, I see it on every forum. It's like people expect everyone to think negatively about every single MMO in existence.
Look folks this may be a tad unrelated but understand I'm only saying this because it is a rebuttal against the "everyone hates it so it must be bad" line of thinking I'm seeing here. I grew up with Hardcore music, bands like Slapshot, Sick of it all, 108 (oldschool 108), Battery, OS101, Cro-mags etc...
Just about everyone I grew up with and their mothers (except a handful of close friends) hate what I listen to, yet many people love what i listen to as well. Different strokes for different folks as they say. As a musician I will say there is no musical value in what I grew up with, none at all. Yet that's not what it was about, much like old-school MMO's it was about community, friendships, and hanging out with like minded people.
I'm not saying that's what FFXIV is about. However it goes along with the idea that different people have different motivations in doing and enjoying what ever it is they do. How many of you hated SWG in its early years because there was no content, lots of bugs, ever changing jedi system so on and so forth?
There was nothing there in comparison to games like WOW, and other themepark games that have released over the years. Yet there are a great many people that loved it anyway. Because when there's nothing to do, you make something to do, and everyone plays along. That was better than any content added by a dev house I've experienced. Maybe that's what people like the Op are doing in FFXIV?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
[quote] [i]Originally posted by WSIMike[Have to disagree with you here, Kyleran.[/b] Someone posting their opinion of something being good - no matter how many disagree - is no more baiting than someone posting about it being bad - again, no matter how many disagree. There is absolutely nothing offensive in the OP that could fairly be considered baiting.Of course people are going to pounce on it and start an argument... But that's their problem, not the OP's.If that's the case, then no one should ever post an opinion about anything, because it could be considered "baiting" by those on the other side.Now their later statement regarding "cry-babies"... yeah that's a bit inflammatory. [/quote]
Well said, I'm surprised someone would think what the OP originally said was baiting people. I don't know what the trend going here is all about, but it's rather funny, I see it on every forum. It's like people expect everyone to think negatively about every single MMO in existence.
Look folks this may be a tad unrelated but understand I'm only saying this because it is a rebuttal against the "everyone hates it so it must be bad" line of thinking I'm seeing here. I grew up with Hardcore music, bands like Slapshot, Sick of it all, 108 (oldschool 108), Battery, OS101, Cro-mags etc...
Just about everyone I grew up with and their mothers (except a handful of close friends) hate what I listen to, yet many people love what i listen to as well. Different strokes for different folks as they say. As a musician I will say there is no musical value in what I grew up with, none at all. Yet that's not what it was about, much like old-school MMO's it was about community, friendships, and hanging out with like minded people.
I'm not saying that's what FFXIV is about. However it goes along with the idea that different people have different motivations in doing and enjoying what ever it is they do. How many of you hated SWG in its early years because there was no content, lots of bugs, ever changing jedi system so on and so forth?
There was nothing there in comparison to games like WOW, and other themepark games that have released over the years. Yet there are a great many people that loved it anyway. Because when there's nothing to do, you make something to do, and everyone plays along. That was better than any content added by a dev house I've experienced. Maybe that's what people like the Op are doing in FFXIV?
You know man, you're right in a lot of ways. In my linkshell we have a vast community of tradeskills, we repair and build for each other, we cook and fish together. We get into a group of 8 and chain crabs.. We have fun... We don't worry about how much points we need to level, we do what we need to help one another and experience and skill points just come. We help new people find there place and there calling in Final Fantasy XIV, sure there is no high end content... but I can bearly get all my jobs over 30 and I still am a level 3 alchemist! So I have a lot more to do... it's like 11 to me and always will be... it's about the communtiy and not getting into a vast hurry. FFXIV moves slow anyways.... the combat is like a snail compared to WoW... infact it's not even comparable...
Enjoy the game for the community and the friends you make in it... sometimes it's fun to login and just get your whole group to a fishing hole to see who can catch for food for the cook
(EDIT: Sometimes I even login and craft for 4 hours! It's fun! How many other games do you have to spend 2-3 hours crafting all kinds of random stuff just to make something? How about a game where you have to look up the recipeis because you can't "magically" remember everything )
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Beyond all the bad reviews people give the game, it truely is a great game... I've been playing it for awhile and have found no major reason this game would not be a game worth playing. If you have the money and feel like playing it give it a try, I also still have a trial buddy key available.
This game is good.
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Buy this game if you have money.
This whole post, in a nutshell, is a rubric for the baiting process. How could people not possibly see this? Why waste your breathe saying "IT SUCKS!"?
Beyond all the bad reviews people give the game, it truely is a great game... I've been playing it for awhile and have found no major reason this game would not be a game worth playing. If you have the money and feel like playing it give it a try, I also still have a trial buddy key available.
This game is good.
Buy this game if you have money.
This whole post, in a nutshell, is a rubric for the baiting process. How could people not possibly see this? Why waste your breathe saying "IT SUCKS!"?
Careful Dannydeuce your baiting me into responding to you because i have a different view then what you said.
Seriously though. Guy says i like this game, i don't see many problems why not give the game a try and all of a sudden it's baiting. I think you guys may need to get out of the desert cause i think your seeing things that aren't there.
Frankly i'm still interested in the game myself but i'm going to give them time to fix a few things before i jump back in. Don't let a few people get you riled up. They may not like the game, you do. It's all about what you enjoy, if they say your wrong for enjoying it, they aren't worth your time.
There will be plenty of people who will be interested in that key when the time comes around when the game is more polished. My advice? hold on to it for now.
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[quote] [i]Originally posted by WSIMike[Have to disagree with you here, Kyleran.[/b] Someone posting their opinion of something being good - no matter how many disagree - is no more baiting than someone posting about it being bad - again, no matter how many disagree. There is absolutely nothing offensive in the OP that could fairly be considered baiting.Of course people are going to pounce on it and start an argument... But that's their problem, not the OP's.If that's the case, then no one should ever post an opinion about anything, because it could be considered "baiting" by those on the other side.Now their later statement regarding "cry-babies"... yeah that's a bit inflammatory. [/quote]
Well said, I'm surprised someone would think what the OP originally said was baiting people. I don't know what the trend going here is all about, but it's rather funny, I see it on every forum. It's like people expect everyone to think negatively about every single MMO in existence.
Look folks this may be a tad unrelated but understand I'm only saying this because it is a rebuttal against the "everyone hates it so it must be bad" line of thinking I'm seeing here. I grew up with Hardcore music, bands like Slapshot, Sick of it all, 108 (oldschool 108), Battery, OS101, Cro-mags etc...
Just about everyone I grew up with and their mothers (except a handful of close friends) hate what I listen to, yet many people love what i listen to as well. Different strokes for different folks as they say. As a musician I will say there is no musical value in what I grew up with, none at all. Yet that's not what it was about, much like old-school MMO's it was about community, friendships, and hanging out with like minded people.
I'm not saying that's what FFXIV is about. However it goes along with the idea that different people have different motivations in doing and enjoying what ever it is they do. How many of you hated SWG in its early years because there was no content, lots of bugs, ever changing jedi system so on and so forth?
There was nothing there in comparison to games like WOW, and other themepark games that have released over the years. Yet there are a great many people that loved it anyway. Because when there's nothing to do, you make something to do, and everyone plays along. That was better than any content added by a dev house I've experienced. Maybe that's what people like the Op are doing in FFXIV?
You know man, you're right in a lot of ways. In my linkshell we have a vast community of tradeskills, we repair and build for each other, we cook and fish together. We get into a group of 8 and chain crabs.. We have fun... We don't worry about how much points we need to level, we do what we need to help one another and experience and skill points just come. We help new people find there place and there calling in Final Fantasy XIV, sure there is no high end content... but I can bearly get all my jobs over 30 and I still am a level 3 alchemist! So I have a lot more to do... it's like 11 to me and always will be... it's about the communtiy and not getting into a vast hurry. FFXIV moves slow anyways.... the combat is like a snail compared to WoW... infact it's not even comparable...
Enjoy the game for the community and the friends you make in it... sometimes it's fun to login and just get your whole group to a fishing hole to see who can catch for food for the cook
(EDIT: Sometimes I even login and craft for 4 hours! It's fun! How many other games do you have to spend 2-3 hours crafting all kinds of random stuff just to make something? How about a game where you have to look up the recipeis because you can't "magically" remember everything )
This is exactly how my LS plays, myself included - we just play and have fun. I dont even know what rank I am in most of my classes to be honest, dont think I even really care. I know I can log in, do something and have fun doing whatever it is for whatever time I'm there doing it. I hang with my friends and we advance in whatever we do. Too many worry about the specifics, how fast am I leveling, how will I keep up with Joe and John and Frank and..., how will I get my next weapon, how long will it take me to hit cap, how long did it take me to do my quests, how much SP did I get from that mob, how many SP did my teammates get from that mob..., really it doesn't and shouldn't have to be that way at all. Its a game, play it to have fun.
I'm curious how many of the people who like FFXIV play this way, I'm betting most. Also betting most that dont like FFXIV play it the opposite way, always worrying about the details and numbers.
[quote] [i]Originally posted by WSIMike[Have to disagree with you here, Kyleran.[/b] Someone posting their opinion of something being good - no matter how many disagree - is no more baiting than someone posting about it being bad - again, no matter how many disagree. There is absolutely nothing offensive in the OP that could fairly be considered baiting.Of course people are going to pounce on it and start an argument... But that's their problem, not the OP's.If that's the case, then no one should ever post an opinion about anything, because it could be considered "baiting" by those on the other side.Now their later statement regarding "cry-babies"... yeah that's a bit inflammatory. [/quote]
Well said, I'm surprised someone would think what the OP originally said was baiting people. I don't know what the trend going here is all about, but it's rather funny, I see it on every forum. It's like people expect everyone to think negatively about every single MMO in existence.
Look folks this may be a tad unrelated but understand I'm only saying this because it is a rebuttal against the "everyone hates it so it must be bad" line of thinking I'm seeing here. I grew up with Hardcore music, bands like Slapshot, Sick of it all, 108 (oldschool 108), Battery, OS101, Cro-mags etc...
Just about everyone I grew up with and their mothers (except a handful of close friends) hate what I listen to, yet many people love what i listen to as well. Different strokes for different folks as they say. As a musician I will say there is no musical value in what I grew up with, none at all. Yet that's not what it was about, much like old-school MMO's it was about community, friendships, and hanging out with like minded people.
I'm not saying that's what FFXIV is about. However it goes along with the idea that different people have different motivations in doing and enjoying what ever it is they do. How many of you hated SWG in its early years because there was no content, lots of bugs, ever changing jedi system so on and so forth?
There was nothing there in comparison to games like WOW, and other themepark games that have released over the years. Yet there are a great many people that loved it anyway. Because when there's nothing to do, you make something to do, and everyone plays along. That was better than any content added by a dev house I've experienced. Maybe that's what people like the Op are doing in FFXIV?
You know man, you're right in a lot of ways. In my linkshell we have a vast community of tradeskills, we repair and build for each other, we cook and fish together. We get into a group of 8 and chain crabs.. We have fun... We don't worry about how much points we need to level, we do what we need to help one another and experience and skill points just come. We help new people find there place and there calling in Final Fantasy XIV, sure there is no high end content... but I can bearly get all my jobs over 30 and I still am a level 3 alchemist! So I have a lot more to do... it's like 11 to me and always will be... it's about the communtiy and not getting into a vast hurry. FFXIV moves slow anyways.... the combat is like a snail compared to WoW... infact it's not even comparable...
Enjoy the game for the community and the friends you make in it... sometimes it's fun to login and just get your whole group to a fishing hole to see who can catch for food for the cook
(EDIT: Sometimes I even login and craft for 4 hours! It's fun! How many other games do you have to spend 2-3 hours crafting all kinds of random stuff just to make something? How about a game where you have to look up the recipeis because you can't "magically" remember everything )
This is exactly how my LS plays, myself included - we just play and have fun. I dont even know what rank I am in most of my classes to be honest, dont think I even really care. I know I can log in, do something and have fun doing whatever it is for whatever time I'm there doing it. I hang with my friends and we advance in whatever we do. Too many worry about the specifics, how fast am I leveling, how will I keep up with Joe and John and Frank and..., how will I get my next weapon, how long will it take me to hit cap, how long did it take me to do my quests, how much SP did I get from that mob, how many SP did my teammates get from that mob..., really it doesn't and shouldn't have to be that way at all. Its a game, play it to have fun.
I'm curious how many of the people who like FFXIV play this way, I'm betting most. Also betting most that dont like FFXIV play it the opposite way, always worrying about the details and numbers.
It sounds like you guys have closeknit linkshells. I'm curious however if you might have the same kind of experience in basically any game. I mean, since you guys aren't worrying about progressing or the story or lack of content and are just "hanging with friends", what about FFXI facilitates "hanging with friends" more so than other games?
Obviously, you're having fun with your in-game friends, but I have to question how much of that has to do with your friends and how much of it has to do with the game. Like, for example, when you spend the day fishing with linkshellmates, what the game is providing is very minimal.
As for most that don't like the game being into details and numbers, I'd have to disagree there. If you wanted to be a great crafter in FFXIV, you'd have to be very detail-oriented. What I and most people don't like about the game is that there's no content worth mentioning, gameplay is slow and broken in groups, the SP system is messed up, the retainer system is just unnecessarily cumbersome to use, the UI is bad, there's only 3 zones, and well I guess I could go on. Those things don't have anything to do with being into details or numbers, they're things people expect to be working and in good order with a released MMORPG. Oh, and I found none of those problems in FFXI so I disagree that the games are similar.
But yeah, the graphics are great and if you just wanted to sit around virtual fishing with in-game friends, I suppose FFXIV is good for that. Too bad there's not more zones and enivornments to do it in though.
Honestly though, what I think you and your friends would enjoy more than FFXIV would be a sandbox game, like Second Life. The entire focus of that game is socializing. Why bother with a game with combat in it if that doesn't really interest you and your friends?
[quote] [i]Originally posted by WSIMike[Have to disagree with you here, Kyleran.[/b] Someone posting their opinion of something being good - no matter how many disagree - is no more baiting than someone posting about it being bad - again, no matter how many disagree. There is absolutely nothing offensive in the OP that could fairly be considered baiting.Of course people are going to pounce on it and start an argument... But that's their problem, not the OP's.If that's the case, then no one should ever post an opinion about anything, because it could be considered "baiting" by those on the other side.Now their later statement regarding "cry-babies"... yeah that's a bit inflammatory. [/quote]
Well said, I'm surprised someone would think what the OP originally said was baiting people. I don't know what the trend going here is all about, but it's rather funny, I see it on every forum. It's like people expect everyone to think negatively about every single MMO in existence.
Look folks this may be a tad unrelated but understand I'm only saying this because it is a rebuttal against the "everyone hates it so it must be bad" line of thinking I'm seeing here. I grew up with Hardcore music, bands like Slapshot, Sick of it all, 108 (oldschool 108), Battery, OS101, Cro-mags etc...
Just about everyone I grew up with and their mothers (except a handful of close friends) hate what I listen to, yet many people love what i listen to as well. Different strokes for different folks as they say. As a musician I will say there is no musical value in what I grew up with, none at all. Yet that's not what it was about, much like old-school MMO's it was about community, friendships, and hanging out with like minded people.
I'm not saying that's what FFXIV is about. However it goes along with the idea that different people have different motivations in doing and enjoying what ever it is they do. How many of you hated SWG in its early years because there was no content, lots of bugs, ever changing jedi system so on and so forth?
There was nothing there in comparison to games like WOW, and other themepark games that have released over the years. Yet there are a great many people that loved it anyway. Because when there's nothing to do, you make something to do, and everyone plays along. That was better than any content added by a dev house I've experienced. Maybe that's what people like the Op are doing in FFXIV?
You know man, you're right in a lot of ways. In my linkshell we have a vast community of tradeskills, we repair and build for each other, we cook and fish together. We get into a group of 8 and chain crabs.. We have fun... We don't worry about how much points we need to level, we do what we need to help one another and experience and skill points just come. We help new people find there place and there calling in Final Fantasy XIV, sure there is no high end content... but I can bearly get all my jobs over 30 and I still am a level 3 alchemist! So I have a lot more to do... it's like 11 to me and always will be... it's about the communtiy and not getting into a vast hurry. FFXIV moves slow anyways.... the combat is like a snail compared to WoW... infact it's not even comparable...
Enjoy the game for the community and the friends you make in it... sometimes it's fun to login and just get your whole group to a fishing hole to see who can catch for food for the cook
(EDIT: Sometimes I even login and craft for 4 hours! It's fun! How many other games do you have to spend 2-3 hours crafting all kinds of random stuff just to make something? How about a game where you have to look up the recipeis because you can't "magically" remember everything )
This is exactly how my LS plays, myself included - we just play and have fun. I dont even know what rank I am in most of my classes to be honest, dont think I even really care. I know I can log in, do something and have fun doing whatever it is for whatever time I'm there doing it. I hang with my friends and we advance in whatever we do. Too many worry about the specifics, how fast am I leveling, how will I keep up with Joe and John and Frank and..., how will I get my next weapon, how long will it take me to hit cap, how long did it take me to do my quests, how much SP did I get from that mob, how many SP did my teammates get from that mob..., really it doesn't and shouldn't have to be that way at all. Its a game, play it to have fun.
I'm curious how many of the people who like FFXIV play this way, I'm betting most. Also betting most that dont like FFXIV play it the opposite way, always worrying about the details and numbers.
It sounds like you guys have closeknit linkshells. I'm curious however if you might have the same kind of experience in basically any game. I mean, since you guys aren't worrying about progressing or the story or lack of content and are just "hanging with friends", what about FFXI facilitates "hanging with friends" more so than other games?
Obviously, you're having fun with your in-game friends, but I have to question how much of that has to do with your friends and how much of it has to do with the game. Like, for example, when you spend the day fishing with linkshellmates, what the game is providing is very minimal.
As for most that don't like the game being into details and numbers, I'd have to disagree there. If you wanted to be a great crafter in FFXIV, you'd have to be very detail-oriented. What I and most people don't like about the game is that there's no content worth mentioning, gameplay is slow and broken in groups, the SP system is messed up, the retainer system is just unnecessarily cumbersome to use, the UI is bad, there's only 3 zones, and well I guess I could go on. Those things don't have anything to do with being into details or numbers, they're things people expect to be working and in good order with a released MMORPG. Oh, and I found none of those problems in FFXI so I disagree that the games are similar.
But yeah, the graphics are great and if you just wanted to sit around virtual fishing with in-game friends, I suppose FFXIV is good for that. Too bad there's not more zones and enivornments to do it in though.
Honestly though, what I think you and your friends would enjoy more than FFXIV would be a sandbox game, like Second Life. The entire focus of that game is socializing. Why bother with a game with combat in it if that doesn't really interest you and your friends?
I said in my previous post as (back lighted in red) we enjoy fighting and getting skill points by chaining crabs... so this in backlighted blue is inaccurate.
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[quote] [i]Originally posted by WSIMike[Have to disagree with you here, Kyleran.[/b] Someone posting their opinion of something being good - no matter how many disagree - is no more baiting than someone posting about it being bad - again, no matter how many disagree. There is absolutely nothing offensive in the OP that could fairly be considered baiting.Of course people are going to pounce on it and start an argument... But that's their problem, not the OP's.If that's the case, then no one should ever post an opinion about anything, because it could be considered "baiting" by those on the other side.Now their later statement regarding "cry-babies"... yeah that's a bit inflammatory. [/quote]
Well said, I'm surprised someone would think what the OP originally said was baiting people. I don't know what the trend going here is all about, but it's rather funny, I see it on every forum. It's like people expect everyone to think negatively about every single MMO in existence.
Look folks this may be a tad unrelated but understand I'm only saying this because it is a rebuttal against the "everyone hates it so it must be bad" line of thinking I'm seeing here. I grew up with Hardcore music, bands like Slapshot, Sick of it all, 108 (oldschool 108), Battery, OS101, Cro-mags etc...
Just about everyone I grew up with and their mothers (except a handful of close friends) hate what I listen to, yet many people love what i listen to as well. Different strokes for different folks as they say. As a musician I will say there is no musical value in what I grew up with, none at all. Yet that's not what it was about, much like old-school MMO's it was about community, friendships, and hanging out with like minded people.
I'm not saying that's what FFXIV is about. However it goes along with the idea that different people have different motivations in doing and enjoying what ever it is they do. How many of you hated SWG in its early years because there was no content, lots of bugs, ever changing jedi system so on and so forth?
There was nothing there in comparison to games like WOW, and other themepark games that have released over the years. Yet there are a great many people that loved it anyway. Because when there's nothing to do, you make something to do, and everyone plays along. That was better than any content added by a dev house I've experienced. Maybe that's what people like the Op are doing in FFXIV?
You know man, you're right in a lot of ways. In my linkshell we have a vast community of tradeskills, we repair and build for each other, we cook and fish together. We get into a group of 8 and chain crabs.. We have fun... We don't worry about how much points we need to level, we do what we need to help one another and experience and skill points just come. We help new people find there place and there calling in Final Fantasy XIV, sure there is no high end content... but I can bearly get all my jobs over 30 and I still am a level 3 alchemist! So I have a lot more to do... it's like 11 to me and always will be... it's about the communtiy and not getting into a vast hurry. FFXIV moves slow anyways.... the combat is like a snail compared to WoW... infact it's not even comparable...
Enjoy the game for the community and the friends you make in it... sometimes it's fun to login and just get your whole group to a fishing hole to see who can catch for food for the cook
(EDIT: Sometimes I even login and craft for 4 hours! It's fun! How many other games do you have to spend 2-3 hours crafting all kinds of random stuff just to make something? How about a game where you have to look up the recipeis because you can't "magically" remember everything )
This is exactly how my LS plays, myself included - we just play and have fun. I dont even know what rank I am in most of my classes to be honest, dont think I even really care. I know I can log in, do something and have fun doing whatever it is for whatever time I'm there doing it. I hang with my friends and we advance in whatever we do. Too many worry about the specifics, how fast am I leveling, how will I keep up with Joe and John and Frank and..., how will I get my next weapon, how long will it take me to hit cap, how long did it take me to do my quests, how much SP did I get from that mob, how many SP did my teammates get from that mob..., really it doesn't and shouldn't have to be that way at all. Its a game, play it to have fun.
I'm curious how many of the people who like FFXIV play this way, I'm betting most. Also betting most that dont like FFXIV play it the opposite way, always worrying about the details and numbers.
It sounds like you guys have closeknit linkshells. I'm curious however if you might have the same kind of experience in basically any game. I mean, since you guys aren't worrying about progressing or the story or lack of content and are just "hanging with friends", what about FFXI facilitates "hanging with friends" more so than other games?
Obviously, you're having fun with your in-game friends, but I have to question how much of that has to do with your friends and how much of it has to do with the game. Like, for example, when you spend the day fishing with linkshellmates, what the game is providing is very minimal.
As for most that don't like the game being into details and numbers, I'd have to disagree there. If you wanted to be a great crafter in FFXIV, you'd have to be very detail-oriented. What I and most people don't like about the game is that there's no content worth mentioning, gameplay is slow and broken in groups, the SP system is messed up, the retainer system is just unnecessarily cumbersome to use, the UI is bad, there's only 3 zones, and well I guess I could go on. Those things don't have anything to do with being into details or numbers, they're things people expect to be working and in good order with a released MMORPG. Oh, and I found none of those problems in FFXI so I disagree that the games are similar.
But yeah, the graphics are great and if you just wanted to sit around virtual fishing with in-game friends, I suppose FFXIV is good for that. Too bad there's not more zones and enivornments to do it in though.
Honestly though, what I think you and your friends would enjoy more than FFXIV would be a sandbox game, like Second Life. The entire focus of that game is socializing. Why bother with a game with combat in it if that doesn't really interest you and your friends?
I said in my previous post as (back lighted in red) we enjoy fighting and getting skill points by chaining crabs... so this in backlighted blue is inaccurate.
You didn't answer any of the questions, and that was a very small part of why you said the game was good.
Some of you make like the game but that doesn't make it good.
When even the developers say their game is a mess right now, and give 2 months free until two patches hit as an apologize, even the most blind should realize something is wrong there. Some people refuse to see and gets angry when they read things about the game that don't fit their tastes, that's fine. That's why the term blind fanbot exists.
The game can be good after a lot of patching, and I believe in time it will, but right now this is the Plan 9 from outer space of mmorpgs.
I think if the OP just said, "I like the game, I have a trial key, anyone wan t it?" this thread would have went much better.
lol seriously
Originally posted by De4dd0g
Beyond all the bad reviews people give the game, it truely is a great game... I've been playing it for awhile and have found no major reason this game would not be a game worth playing. If you have the money and feel like playing it give it a try, I also still have a trial buddy key available.
All he said. 2 sentences an look at all the stuff that broke out. LOL do you want his buddy key or what guys no fighting over it lol.
So.... in the end, it boils down to this "I've a great bunch of friends I have fun with, so come play this game because.... well.... "
In the end, THE OP has a bunch of marvelous friends. Good for him! it sounds like he would have fun in ANY game (and most of the time, with a bunch of friends, will get exactly that). But then the question is: Why are you playing THIS game and not game X? Guilds exists in most games, group activity too.
So what makes you and your friends play FFXIV instead of EVE, WoW, LOtro or what else?
It is just inertia because you were all in FFXI and now you transferred over or is there any actual reasons?
From your post is sounded like you consider some of the games mechanics to be flawed (combat is slow, you said) but others that most consider flaws (no recipe book) you consider "good". Why is that? Do you really enjoy not having a recipe book (just open the internet though)? Do you enjoy making small little parts before crafting something you can use?
Please, do explain to us WHY FFXIV is such a good game and why your friends play in it. Everyone else seems to think otherwise, and I do not mean just forum posters here:
A metascore of 52 is pretty lousy. So CRITICS also says the game is pretty bad. There is also an average user rating of 3.8 over 238 user ratings, not so many, so we can ignore this.
"PC Gamer: Recently, Square Enix CEO Yoichi Wada said that “Currently, the service isn’t satisfactory”. Can you comment on that?
Hiromichi Tanaka: From the game design point of view, we do agree, and all of the development team do understand that it’s not up to the expectation, and that a lot of players are unsatisfied with the quality of the game itself."
So, the devs are not literally saying that game is "crap", but they ARE saying that the game is not what they wanted it to be.
Also answer this, if you please. Would you play the game WITHOUT your friends?
Did you find your great friends in this game or you came to it with a pre-packaged deal?
If you can answer there, I am sure this will give a much better picture about your preferences. Yes, I know, opinions opinions, everyone has one. But my belief is that saying "I just like it" has much less value than saying " I like it because of this, this and this".
So far we have seen you saying "I like it because of my friends" but that is a non sequitur. I could say that of ANY game out there, "I like football because my team is so great" does not tell anything about you liking football, just about you liking your team of people.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
So.... in the end, it boils down to this "I've a great bunch of friends I have fun with, so come play this game because.... well.... "
In the end, THE OP has a bunch of marvelous friends. Good for him! it sounds like he would have fun in ANY game (and most of the time, with a bunch of friends, will get exactly that). But then the question is: Why are you playing THIS game and not game X? Guilds exists in most games, group activity too.
So what makes you and your friends play FFXIV instead of EVE, WoW, LOtro or what else?
It is just inertia because you were all in FFXI and now you transferred over or is there any actual reasons?
From your post is sounded like you consider some of the games mechanics to be flawed (combat is slow, you said) but others that most consider flaws (no recipe book) you consider "good". Why is that? Do you really enjoy not having a recipe book (just open the internet though)? Do you enjoy making small little parts before crafting something you can use?
Please, do explain to us WHY FFXIV is such a good game and why your friends play in it. Everyone else seems to think otherwise, and I do not mean just forum posters here:
A metascore of 52 is pretty lousy. So CRITICS also says the game is pretty bad. There is also an average user rating of 3.8 over 238 user ratings, not so many, so we can ignore this.
"PC Gamer: Recently, Square Enix CEO Yoichi Wada said that “Currently, the service isn’t satisfactory”. Can you comment on that?
Hiromichi Tanaka: From the game design point of view, we do agree, and all of the development team do understand that it’s not up to the expectation, and that a lot of players are unsatisfied with the quality of the game itself."
So, the devs are not literally saying that game is "crap", but they ARE saying that the game is not what they wanted it to be.
Also answer this, if you please. Would you play the game WITHOUT your friends?
Did you find your great friends in this game or you came to it with a pre-packaged deal?
If you can answer there, I am sure this will give a much better picture about your preferences. Yes, I know, opinions opinions, everyone has one. But my belief is that saying "I just like it" has much less value than saying " I like it because of this, this and this".
So far we have seen you saying "I like it because of my friends" but that is a non sequitur. I could say that of ANY game out there, "I like football because my team is so great" does not tell anything about you liking football, just about you liking your team of people.
lol @ that line. yea friends do help like that no matter what the case is XD.
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How about this... the game was received so badly that SE and co not only asked reviewers not to review it but have given away 2 months free of game time to try to get people to stick around. They've openly admitted that people simply don't like it.
I'm not sure what more you want. The haters are wrong, the reviewers are wrong, the devs and publishers are wrong, the majority of the people that tried the game are wrong, but this extreme minority are the only ones worth listening to?
I will have to simply disagree lol.
I like it!
Falls into the 'everyone else does it so it must be right!' category. Or better yet 'If everyone else jumps off the bridge does that mean you will?' or my personal favorite 'Thats how we have always done it, so it must be right!'.
Not saying the minority is right or wrong, but believing the minority MUST be wrong simply because they are the minority is just silly, really.
Oh and I simply disagree lol.
Vanilla ice cream is truly a great ice cream.
Powerwheels are cool, but the box one comes in is truly a great toy.
Sandboxes are truly fun without sand in them, sometimes.
So on and so forth.
There's a lot of great bland and empty things I suppose.
I might be the minority in this forum, but a lot of people play FFXIV so overall I'm not the minority the haters could be the minority. It's a shame the people enjoying the game aren't worried enough to say more about it... I was trying to give people who haven't tried it a different idea beside all the negative comments others have posted.
Not to my surprise a bunch of negative people jump on me like I'm the bad guy for saying the game is worth buying, and is worth playing.
If you choose to hate the game fine.. I'm sorry you're wasting your time on FFXIV forum waiting for an oppertunity to say something negative about it. I came on her wanting to give the game a positive perception by someone who actually has spent time leveling up, and exploring the world... Adventuring into all the harvesting and crafts.
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No worries, I am here to do the same when the urge arises. To give the experience of someone that has spent time leveling up and exploring the world etc.
Seems we have at least that in common lol.
But nah, I saw the title and thought there was a patch maybe that had fixed a lot to turn things around. After reading the OP well lol... I felt the need to reply.
And no worries, I can guarantee fans are in the minority and I can prove it
There is no monthly fee for 3 months after launch... <--- thats all that needs to be said to prove fans are in the minority. The devs and such have stated the game hasn't done as well as they had hoped, to make up for it... here's some free time.
Glad you found a game you like, but things are what they are. I like Anchovies, doesn't mean a pizza with anchovies is going to go over well with those I know lol.
And don't worry it's not wasting time. The fate of FFXIV after a launch like it had has potential to effect the genre, at this point it's a must to check back in every so often to see whats developed.
I bought this game on launch with high hopes. I gave it almost a month before I decided it was crap. Then the reviews came in and they said it was crap. Then the people that created the game said it was crap.
Congrats on enjoying this game. I wish i was easily amused as you.
I have read a few peoples post that the creators called their game crap. Can someone post a link to that or is this something people have formed opinions on because of the extended free time and the upcoming patches. I would just like to see where they called this game "crap".
Me too actually, and yet nobody in my family does... Oh well anyways... I guess we all enjoy what we enjoy
I just hope maybe some of you will give it a chance yet again when the patches release.... You never know, I might be the level 50 you need to help you haha
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Yeah be careful what you read.... I never read anywhere .. on ANY website where they said there own game was crap... I doubt a game designer, after spending all his ideas and hard work into a game 5 years in development would say... "blah this is crap, next piece of paper!!!"
Sorry
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posted by WSIMIKE
"Have to disagree with you here, Kyleran. Someone posting their opinion of something being good - no matter how many disagree - is no more baiting than someone posting about it being bad - again, no matter how many disagree. There is absolutely nothing offensive in the OP that could fairly be considered baiting. Of course people are going to pounce on it and start an argument... But that's their problem, not the OP's. If that's the case, then no one should ever post an opinion about anything, because it could be considered "baiting" by those on the other side. Now their later statement regarding "cry-babies"... yeah that's a bit inflammatory"
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Well said, I'm surprised someone would think what the OP originally said was baiting people. I don't know what the trend going here is all about, but it's rather funny, I see it on every forum. It's like people expect everyone to think negatively about every single MMO in existence.
Look folks this may be a tad unrelated but understand I'm only saying this because it is a rebuttal against the "everyone hates it so it must be bad" line of thinking I'm seeing here. I grew up with Hardcore music, bands like Slapshot, Sick of it all, 108 (oldschool 108), Battery, OS101, Cro-mags etc...
Just about everyone I grew up with and their mothers (except a handful of close friends) hate what I listen to, yet many people love what i listen to as well. Different strokes for different folks as they say. As a musician I will say there is no musical value in what I grew up with, none at all. Yet that's not what it was about, much like old-school MMO's it was about community, friendships, and hanging out with like minded people.
I'm not saying that's what FFXIV is about. However it goes along with the idea that different people have different motivations in doing and enjoying what ever it is they do. How many of you hated SWG in its early years because there was no content, lots of bugs, ever changing jedi system so on and so forth?
There was nothing there in comparison to games like WOW, and other themepark games that have released over the years. Yet there are a great many people that loved it anyway. Because when there's nothing to do, you make something to do, and everyone plays along. That was better than any content added by a dev house I've experienced. Maybe that's what people like the Op are doing in FFXIV?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
You know man, you're right in a lot of ways. In my linkshell we have a vast community of tradeskills, we repair and build for each other, we cook and fish together. We get into a group of 8 and chain crabs.. We have fun... We don't worry about how much points we need to level, we do what we need to help one another and experience and skill points just come. We help new people find there place and there calling in Final Fantasy XIV, sure there is no high end content... but I can bearly get all my jobs over 30 and I still am a level 3 alchemist! So I have a lot more to do... it's like 11 to me and always will be... it's about the communtiy and not getting into a vast hurry. FFXIV moves slow anyways.... the combat is like a snail compared to WoW... infact it's not even comparable...
Enjoy the game for the community and the friends you make in it... sometimes it's fun to login and just get your whole group to a fishing hole to see who can catch for food for the cook
(EDIT: Sometimes I even login and craft for 4 hours! It's fun! How many other games do you have to spend 2-3 hours crafting all kinds of random stuff just to make something? How about a game where you have to look up the recipeis because you can't "magically" remember everything
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This game is good.
<Insert non-sequential general statement #1>
<Insert non-sequential general statement #2>
<Insert non-sequential general statement #3>
Buy this game if you have money.
This whole post, in a nutshell, is a rubric for the baiting process. How could people not possibly see this? Why waste your breathe saying "IT SUCKS!"?
Careful Dannydeuce your baiting me into responding to you because i have a different view then what you said.
Seriously though. Guy says i like this game, i don't see many problems why not give the game a try and all of a sudden it's baiting. I think you guys may need to get out of the desert cause i think your seeing things that aren't there.
Frankly i'm still interested in the game myself but i'm going to give them time to fix a few things before i jump back in. Don't let a few people get you riled up. They may not like the game, you do. It's all about what you enjoy, if they say your wrong for enjoying it, they aren't worth your time.
There will be plenty of people who will be interested in that key when the time comes around when the game is more polished. My advice? hold on to it for now.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
This is exactly how my LS plays, myself included - we just play and have fun. I dont even know what rank I am in most of my classes to be honest, dont think I even really care. I know I can log in, do something and have fun doing whatever it is for whatever time I'm there doing it. I hang with my friends and we advance in whatever we do. Too many worry about the specifics, how fast am I leveling, how will I keep up with Joe and John and Frank and..., how will I get my next weapon, how long will it take me to hit cap, how long did it take me to do my quests, how much SP did I get from that mob, how many SP did my teammates get from that mob..., really it doesn't and shouldn't have to be that way at all. Its a game, play it to have fun.
I'm curious how many of the people who like FFXIV play this way, I'm betting most. Also betting most that dont like FFXIV play it the opposite way, always worrying about the details and numbers.
It sounds like you guys have closeknit linkshells. I'm curious however if you might have the same kind of experience in basically any game. I mean, since you guys aren't worrying about progressing or the story or lack of content and are just "hanging with friends", what about FFXI facilitates "hanging with friends" more so than other games?
Obviously, you're having fun with your in-game friends, but I have to question how much of that has to do with your friends and how much of it has to do with the game. Like, for example, when you spend the day fishing with linkshellmates, what the game is providing is very minimal.
As for most that don't like the game being into details and numbers, I'd have to disagree there. If you wanted to be a great crafter in FFXIV, you'd have to be very detail-oriented. What I and most people don't like about the game is that there's no content worth mentioning, gameplay is slow and broken in groups, the SP system is messed up, the retainer system is just unnecessarily cumbersome to use, the UI is bad, there's only 3 zones, and well I guess I could go on. Those things don't have anything to do with being into details or numbers, they're things people expect to be working and in good order with a released MMORPG. Oh, and I found none of those problems in FFXI so I disagree that the games are similar.
But yeah, the graphics are great and if you just wanted to sit around virtual fishing with in-game friends, I suppose FFXIV is good for that. Too bad there's not more zones and enivornments to do it in though.
Honestly though, what I think you and your friends would enjoy more than FFXIV would be a sandbox game, like Second Life. The entire focus of that game is socializing. Why bother with a game with combat in it if that doesn't really interest you and your friends?
I think if the OP just said, "I like the game, I have a trial key, anyone wan t it?" this thread would have went much better.
Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.
I said in my previous post as (back lighted in red) we enjoy fighting and getting skill points by chaining crabs... so this in backlighted blue is inaccurate.
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You didn't answer any of the questions, and that was a very small part of why you said the game was good.
Some of you make like the game but that doesn't make it good.
When even the developers say their game is a mess right now, and give 2 months free until two patches hit as an apologize, even the most blind should realize something is wrong there. Some people refuse to see and gets angry when they read things about the game that don't fit their tastes, that's fine. That's why the term blind fanbot exists.
The game can be good after a lot of patching, and I believe in time it will, but right now this is the Plan 9 from outer space of mmorpgs.
lol seriously
Originally posted by De4dd0g
Beyond all the bad reviews people give the game, it truely is a great game... I've been playing it for awhile and have found no major reason this game would not be a game worth playing. If you have the money and feel like playing it give it a try, I also still have a trial buddy key available.
All he said. 2 sentences an look at all the stuff that broke out. LOL do you want his buddy key or what guys no fighting over it lol.
So.... in the end, it boils down to this "I've a great bunch of friends I have fun with, so come play this game because.... well.... "
In the end, THE OP has a bunch of marvelous friends. Good for him! it sounds like he would have fun in ANY game (and most of the time, with a bunch of friends, will get exactly that). But then the question is: Why are you playing THIS game and not game X? Guilds exists in most games, group activity too.
So what makes you and your friends play FFXIV instead of EVE, WoW, LOtro or what else?
It is just inertia because you were all in FFXI and now you transferred over or is there any actual reasons?
From your post is sounded like you consider some of the games mechanics to be flawed (combat is slow, you said) but others that most consider flaws (no recipe book) you consider "good". Why is that? Do you really enjoy not having a recipe book (just open the internet though)? Do you enjoy making small little parts before crafting something you can use?
Please, do explain to us WHY FFXIV is such a good game and why your friends play in it. Everyone else seems to think otherwise, and I do not mean just forum posters here:
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/final-fantasy-xiv-online
A metascore of 52 is pretty lousy. So CRITICS also says the game is pretty bad. There is also an average user rating of 3.8 over 238 user ratings, not so many, so we can ignore this.
Let's see what the devs says:
http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/11/15/interview-final-fantasy-xiv-developers-apologise-to-unhappy-players/
A small snippet from it:
"PC Gamer: Recently, Square Enix CEO Yoichi Wada said that “Currently, the service isn’t satisfactory”. Can you comment on that?
Hiromichi Tanaka: From the game design point of view, we do agree, and all of the development team do understand that it’s not up to the expectation, and that a lot of players are unsatisfied with the quality of the game itself."
So, the devs are not literally saying that game is "crap", but they ARE saying that the game is not what they wanted it to be.
Also answer this, if you please. Would you play the game WITHOUT your friends?
Did you find your great friends in this game or you came to it with a pre-packaged deal?
If you can answer there, I am sure this will give a much better picture about your preferences. Yes, I know, opinions opinions, everyone has one. But my belief is that saying "I just like it" has much less value than saying " I like it because of this, this and this".
So far we have seen you saying "I like it because of my friends" but that is a non sequitur. I could say that of ANY game out there, "I like football because my team is so great" does not tell anything about you liking football, just about you liking your team of people.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
lol @ that line. yea friends do help like that no matter what the case is XD.
When people login the game and find only himself and the NPC, I bet you would say the same thing.
It stops when the susbscription discontinued just like the same fate of any other game on the market.
Yep, just got a "fingerphone" from ET.
This is the work of a masterbaiter.
Noone can call FF14 good. You might like it, for some reason none of us will understand. But you CANNOT call it good.