actually..... nevermind. play out your cards i don't even care for the game anymore. to be honest i don't want to ever EVER play a game that is even considered by you to be a game. i might run past you on a server now that really would shock me. there are ppl i can play with but you're not my kind.
the game is bad. SE did not FIRE Tanaka got what he deserved. but i am pretty sure he wasn't fired from SE. he produced the ff-title that brought the most money to the company and no it's not ff7 or ffx.
i am tired of saying why i like this game and why you ppl should not bash on it. but on another perspective it seems i am total ignorant against a huge amount of disapointed gamers.
so it deserves these two awards, if the mmo market has changed in so significantly way, that little unsatisfied noobish-players have the speaking voice for every gamer out there. The lack of patience that every seems to have. the idiotic behaviour when the next michael bay film comes out (oh my god boom!). mediocre society deserves mediocre games and even more so this game. i am tired of arguing for the game or against the game. vote for it or don't mind.
been fun reading some ridiculous stuff here but there is no reason to go any further.
thanks for reading or skipping this post
~Corres
ps: Shinryu here i come
Good job generalising there. You think its only noobish players who know nothing about MMO genre voting here? and you are coontradicting yourself here. You say you don't care for the game and yet go on a rant and bash everyone who dislike it? and if you really that angry why not throw stones at Gamespot office because they are the one who nominated it for this award? let me guess Gamespot are noobish too, corrupt and paid off to give it low ratings...am i right?
You are right about one thing though, i have read some really ridiculous stuff on these boards but you take the cake.
why thank you for your answer.
times of old-style-mmo's are gone by. this game is not for suitable for today's mmo standard. i get that . havin nothing else in an mmo to do other than grinding and crafting is not a good side indeed.
actually i planed to compare today's game market with the essential message: "start and have fun all the way" to a old-school-type-mmo. but it seems out of context for that matter.
i bought a ps3 for the release and the pc version because im couldnt wait. (god knows now when they gonna release it, if they even do). so i kinda took the defense position for this game automaticaly. And yet i failed to realize one big thing: it's not 2002 anymore. i didn't care if the Q.Q-Babys would whine about every little stuff there is.
Tanaka's removal from the project showed me one thing in particular way: if it succeeds once, it's nice. but every mmo even a ff one has to be standing solid.
and for clarification i do not ask for an apology.
i started back in 2007 with ffxi. and i was dreaming and yapping about the possibility that i could start at the same time (well roughly couple months later, but still) as the other players. Exploring that world and adventuring. bad only if that adventure happens to be the same tree for logging the 3rd time in a row.
sucks for me the game turned out to be that bad. but that's my issue.
edit: read wrong thought you said gametrailers. the ffxiv review of gamespot was an absolute joke. and even by haters of the game this review was taken lightly serious.
As for the Gametrailers stuff: hawp and Pach-attack are awesome. the rest is crap you can barely watch wthout breathing manually.
as for the reviews i say gametrailers gave a pretty objectiv review for FFXIV. nothing wrong with that.
just so disapointed.... must hurt mob in abyssea for sealing my pain!
One game dies because company got in to finanical trouble even befor game is released and never got a chance to flourish.
Uh-huh.
Guess what happened to developers of APB? Haha
Although not being able to properly control and plan the budget and schedules is a proper excuse for their total failure. I forgot.
Hey i am not the one making excuses here. I am just surprised at your logic and criteria for chosing which is worst this year APB or FFXIV. But i have to say what days have come to when one has to argue if FFXIV is first or second worst of the year. I just realised how silly this argument is. lol
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no? Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
While the debate of Worse game of the year goes on, clearly FFXIV is at the top of every site list I have come across. In laymens terms, let the count decide which deserves such an award.
I EXPECTED APB to fail. They spent entirely too much on development and SEVERLY overhyped that amount. When the gameplay stuff game out it was middling at best. Not at all my type of game. So I never even bothered.
FFXIV is a Square-freakin-Enix game. They have a LONG history of providing entertaining games. That they released this info in beta saying there would be fixes, then people who PLAYED beta reported their thoughts, and the developers failed to do ANYTHING about it is gross negligence on their part. They PURPOSELY screwed over players by forcing a launch even though they weren't ready in order to attempt to pull in revenue. And frankly, the game still blows months after launch. Now the PS3 version has been put on hold indefinitely. Most disspointing and worse game people have all attempted to play.
(I say attempted because the game isn't really a game so much as an exercise in face palms and banging your head against a wall).
I want an "I voted" sticker.
Edit: And just to show you I don't HATE the game completely, I did NOT vote for FFXIV in EVERY bad category... for example, "Worst Sequel" was definitely a toss up between Star Wars Force Unleashed 2 (got my vote) and Crackdown 2.
This discussion reminds me of when Warhammer players and Age of Conan players were arguing over which game crashed the hardest. As if the results would somehow make one of those games better.
I'm not sure what's the argument here....the game as it is now (from someone currently playing mind you) is really....horrible. i honestly keep it becasue again....it's free until they fix it, and i want to see what they fix that will make me jump up and go "ok NOW i'll pay for this when it was free fro the last x ammount of months." also, i like the people in my LS, and even though i can talk to them because of mumble and vent talk to them without playing.....why not do those silly leves while we shoot the breeze, it's not like you gotta concentrate hard to do both.
If they improve the game, maybe you can defend them on the point of "they started out bad as hell, but they turned it around.' but i mean right now it DESERVES to be on that damn list, no way around it. and alot of you are dead on when you say SE had made a shit-ton of games...been in the busniess a long time and should have known way better than to pull this garbage off of a beta server and say "it's finished, play on." people who are getting pissy it's on the list are living in a mega sized delusion, it's bad....it's on the list, do like i do...deal with it.
If people don't want to keep it after they paid for the CE even with it being F2P until further notice, that's their prerogative. what do i care if they think it's crappy and don't want to play, hell i love cookies and cream ice cream, not everybody does, i'm not going to go out and shove it down their throats even if breyer's is giving it out for free. bottom line....it's on the list because it deserves to be there, i don't care how many subs it has, how established the company is. do i WANT them to improve it, hell yes, but it's there because it is...at the moment...a beautiful looking unplayable polished piece of ....well you get the drift. ;-)
Well yes I still like it and being currnetly curious about the patch that still downloads *mumbles* While following some postings and checked the votes I sort of udnerstand the grudge of many.
However I have sort of noticed that people on this Forum that defend the new World of Warcraft Addon or at least strongly like Warcraft, seem to be the most active one in spread their dislike for Final Fantasy 14. While I am on the otehr hand have a deeper dislike for Warcraft for a while , being way more in defense for FF 14.
I mean this neither positive or negative, but can it be that people that prefer more likely a playstyle as it Warcraft offers against the game? It is not about the reasonable critic, I just noticed that these groups are kind of more enraged and more active in their complains?
I can honestly say while that I didn't think APB was all that great of a game, the amount of time I spent playing it in beta was waaaaay more fun than the time I spent playing FFXIV in retail on that buddy key. FFXIV frankly deserves to be on the worst of list and probably take first place.
Just because you can post this in the manner you did on these forums, does not mean you should have. I can take my dog for a walk and let him crap on the sidewalk in front of your house everyday too, doesn't mean I should.
There are rules against that, fines in some places as high as 500 dollars, and jail time for repeated offenses. Just saying.
Let me help you out with analogies. You could prolly make a face in front of his house everyday. I think that would work.
Well yes I still like it and being currnetly curious about the patch that still downloads *mumbles* While following some postings and checked the votes I sort of udnerstand the grudge of many.
However I have sort of noticed that people on this Forum that defend the new World of Warcraft Addon or at least strongly like Warcraft, seem to be the most active one in spread their dislike for Final Fantasy 14. While I am on the otehr hand have a deeper dislike for Warcraft for a while , being way more in defense for FF 14.
I mean this neither positive or negative, but can it be that people that prefer more likely a playstyle as it Warcraft offers against the game? It is not about the reasonable critic, I just noticed that these groups are kind of more enraged and more active in their complains?
I cannot stand WoW.
Next theory?
Here's mine.
The game has nothing to do unless you want to craft ( in all its tediousness ) or do leves, both of which are monotonous and boring after more than a week of either. Or you can grind kill until your eyes bleed.
Still waiting for Final Crafter to become Final Fantasy.
Maybe they should have named the game Final Fantasy: the Dressmakers Edition.
Originally posted by bansan
Originally posted by ScribZ
Just because you can post this in the manner you did on these forums, does not mean you should have. I can take my dog for a walk and let him crap on the sidewalk in front of your house everyday too, doesn't mean I should.
There are rules against that, fines in some places as high as 500 dollars, and jail time for repeated offenses. Just saying.
Let me help you out with analogies. You could prolly make a face in front of his house everyday. I think that would work.
Until I saw him, anyway.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.- -And on the 8th day, man created God.-
Well yes I still like it and being currnetly curious about the patch that still downloads *mumbles* While following some postings and checked the votes I sort of udnerstand the grudge of many.
However I have sort of noticed that people on this Forum that defend the new World of Warcraft Addon or at least strongly like Warcraft, seem to be the most active one in spread their dislike for Final Fantasy 14. While I am on the otehr hand have a deeper dislike for Warcraft for a while , being way more in defense for FF 14.
I mean this neither positive or negative, but can it be that people that prefer more likely a playstyle as it Warcraft offers against the game? It is not about the reasonable critic, I just noticed that these groups are kind of more enraged and more active in their complains?
I cannot stand WoW.
Next theory?
Here's mine.
The game has nothing to do unless you want to craft ( in all its tediousness ) or do leves, both of which are monotonous and boring.
I said mainly and that tehse are the one that are more active against the game. I not meant that others not dislike it. No reason to feel that directly spoken too. I meant not that someone that dieslikes Warcraft automatical lieks the game I just mean that these are more active in telliing their dislike. Maybe saying a higher % of these people come from there.
It is just a side aspect that bothers me and is not about the game being good or bad, ore about which palyer groups are more vocal than others.
Is this now more clearly? On the other hand propably most people active on this forum in general play warcraft. So the question is just i the higehr % is because here are more warcraft players around or if it is in general that way.
And this is not about likeing or dislikeing the game but mainly about telling active the like or dislike.
I'll vote for that, FF14 was the worse game I have ever played, and also the biggest letdown ever.
"An MMORPG could be completely diffirent from WoW. Just look at games like Dofus, Wizard101 or EVE. But as it is, most of the Western MMOs are trying to succeed by out-WoWing WoW. It's like an army of 10 sports games made about same sports, and barely none about other sports. WoW clone is an accurate description of those games, it manages to convey much information with only two words." -Poster on mmorpg.com
Rift: World of Warcraft clone #9321 Nothing special to see here move along.
I think people refusing to play a game that's not worth it even when it's FREE (FFXIV) is a lot more disappointing than a dead game, myself. I bet Square-Enix ( or at least their accountants) would agree.
Are you implying that this wasn't the case for APB?
Frankly, around 400k players have played this game in the West. Why is it a nominee for "Worst game everyone played"?
APB died not because it was a bad game but because companyw as in financial trouble even before the game released. FFXIV is where it is today because at core its a broken MMO. I find it sad that you are arguing over if APB is worst compared to FFXIV. As if being second worst is some kind of achievement?
Ummm... No.
APB died because it was a bad game with fundamental issues the developers couldn't afford to fix.
Seriously.
You know, it's one thing being dedicated to bashing a game as some are to bashing FFXIV. It's something else altogether to lie and revise history about other games to do so. You are clearly doing the latter here.
There were articles, discussions and reviews aplenty discussing all the problems APB had as a game, discussing why it failed. To pretend otherwise is nothing short of utter dishonesty.
If APB had been a better game than it was and more people were playing it, "the developers not having enough money" wouldn't have been a problem.... because they'd have been making money.
As for knocking Hyanmen for defending FFXIV in comparison to APB... Holy hypocrisy Batman... Aren't you here propping up APB - a completely failed game - as compared to FFXIV? That door swings both ways, friend.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Well yes I still like it and being currnetly curious about the patch that still downloads *mumbles* While following some postings and checked the votes I sort of udnerstand the grudge of many.
However I have sort of noticed that people on this Forum that defend the new World of Warcraft Addon or at least strongly like Warcraft, seem to be the most active one in spread their dislike for Final Fantasy 14. While I am on the otehr hand have a deeper dislike for Warcraft for a while , being way more in defense for FF 14.
I mean this neither positive or negative, but can it be that people that prefer more likely a playstyle as it Warcraft offers against the game? It is not about the reasonable critic, I just noticed that these groups are kind of more enraged and more active in their complains?
I cannot stand WoW.
Next theory?
Here's mine.
The game has nothing to do unless you want to craft ( in all its tediousness ) or do leves, both of which are monotonous and boring.
I said mainly and that tehse are the one that are more active against the game. I not meant that others not dislike it. No reason to feel that directly spoken too. I meant not that someone that dieslikes Warcraft automatical lieks the game I just mean that these are more active in telliing their dislike. Maybe saying a higher % of these people come from there.
It is just a side aspect that bothers me and is not about the game being good or bad, ore about which palyer groups are more vocal than others.
Is this now more clearly? On the other hand propably most people active on this forum in general play warcraft. So the question is just i the higehr % is because here are more warcraft players around or if it is in general that way.
And this is not about likeing or dislikeing the game but mainly about telling active the like or dislike.
How does it even matter if someone is WOW player or not? and how is that relevant? FFXIV is in its current situation because its a bad game. period. I for instance don't consider myself as a dedicated fan of any MMORPG. if game is good i defend it. I have played every MMO out there including FFXI (for 5 years). it is not hard to see how SE failed despite of 7 years of MMO experince behind them. A lot of players on these forums play all kind of MMOS and prefer not to be divided in camps or fan clubs for particular mmorpgs.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no? Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
Edit: For the "people" who reported me, there is no other thread in this section pertaining to this, and no rules against me posting it.
I voted for it in the first category, proudly.
Despite what Square-Enix is trying to do to 'make things right' it is far too little, especially from a company the caliber of Square-Enix. People need to admit how bad this game is and, truth be told, people need to see this game be made an example of and Square-Enix be made an example of so that this doesn't happen again. The company doesn't need to fail, they're a great company that made a serious mistake. The game, however, needs to fail...or the players, developers and publishers will learn nothing.
That said, there is nothing at all wrong with what you've posted. Attention, the right attention, needs to be given to this game so that this doesn't happen again. People are paying for the box and a subscription for this, at least they were going to initially and will be when Square-Enix gets the game in a truly playable state, and they deserve to yell loudly about how badly they were put over by the company that made this game. It's complete and utter idiocy to try to squash threads like this and demonstrates something terrible about the community of players that want to silence those that are yelling that enough is enough and Square-Enix needs to be made an example of in this case.
(1)TL:DR must be your way of saying that thinking hurts. Then again, this may explain why it looks like you responded to the post without using your brain. (2) It's not about community, is it? You just have nothing better to do.
Edit: For the "people" who reported me, there is no other thread in this section pertaining to this, and no rules against me posting it.
I voted for it in the first category, proudly.
Despite what Square-Enix is trying to do to 'make things right' it is far too little, especially from a company the caliber of Square-Enix. People need to admit how bad this game is and, truth be told, people need to see this game be made an example of and Square-Enix be made an example of so that this doesn't happen again. The company doesn't need to fail, they're a great company that made a serious mistake. The game, however, needs to fail...or the players, developers and publishers will learn nothing.
That said, there is nothing at all wrong with what you've posted. Attention, the right attention, needs to be given to this game so that this doesn't happen again. People are paying for the box and a subscription for this, at least they were going to initially and will be when Square-Enix gets the game in a truly playable state, and they deserve to yell loudly about how badly they were put over by the company that made this game. It's complete and utter idiocy to try to squash threads like this and demonstrates something terrible about the community of players that want to silence those that are yelling that enough is enough and Square-Enix needs to be made an example of in this case.
Sooo in the end people really want to see the game technical burn not matter was Square does? Nice to know that this saves me a lot of time to argue with people that post about the game if there is so much hate behind the negative arguments.
Sooo in the end people really want to see the game technical burn not matter was Square does? Nice to know that this saves me a lot of time to argue with people that post about the game if there is so much hate behind the negative arguments.
They are not hateful. They feel betrayed by SE. Many people had a lot of faith SE was going to release a quality game. They let us buy something that was far from release condition.
Hell hath no fury like a fanboy scorned.
I love snails. I love every kinda snail. I just want to hug them all, but I cant. Cant hug every snail.
uhm yes but would it not be actually better for all if they now turrn it after the huge wave of critic into a positive product? Not to mention if someone lieks this is supposed to write a review after maybe 6 months and several patches.
I find there is a lone between feeling betrayed and haveing a desire to see something burn. Yes it is really the result of failed expectation but I find these kind reactions really not healthy. I remind a lot of products in some cases book I really regret to buy in a case of one book my worst reaction was maybe that I tossed the book away and told friends that I found several topics and the way it was written disturbing and kind of doubtful, even some concerns that every normal youth could have been able to buy that book, but I have never had any kind of desire to see the books literally burn down.
MAybe deep dedicated fans to something are just well more passionate than I can understand.
Edit: For the "people" who reported me, there is no other thread in this section pertaining to this, and no rules against me posting it.
I voted for it in the first category, proudly.
Despite what Square-Enix is trying to do to 'make things right' it is far too little, especially from a company the caliber of Square-Enix. People need to admit how bad this game is and, truth be told, people need to see this game be made an example of and Square-Enix be made an example of so that this doesn't happen again. The company doesn't need to fail, they're a great company that made a serious mistake. The game, however, needs to fail...or the players, developers and publishers will learn nothing.
That said, there is nothing at all wrong with what you've posted. Attention, the right attention, needs to be given to this game so that this doesn't happen again. People are paying for the box and a subscription for this, at least they were going to initially and will be when Square-Enix gets the game in a truly playable state, and they deserve to yell loudly about how badly they were put over by the company that made this game. It's complete and utter idiocy to try to squash threads like this and demonstrates something terrible about the community of players that want to silence those that are yelling that enough is enough and Square-Enix needs to be made an example of in this case.
Sooo in the end people really want to see the game technical burn not matter was Square does? Nice to know that this saves me a lot of time to argue with people that post about the game if there is so much hate behind the negative arguments.
If this is what you really think then you missed the whole point of my argument. That's a pretty incredible feat. I had a rather lengthy post written to respond to it but there is no point. Your response demonstrates that you clearly don't want to understand the bigger issue here and with this thread. I don't know why and I'm not going to hazard a guess. What I will say is that your attitude is part of the problem with mmorpgs players and pc gaming. I would write more, attempt to explain it to you, but I am firmly convinced that you just do not want to understand.
(1)TL:DR must be your way of saying that thinking hurts. Then again, this may explain why it looks like you responded to the post without using your brain. (2) It's not about community, is it? You just have nothing better to do.
Hmmm maybe you are right or maybe I am right. Hard to tell by different point of views. Anyway I would be curious to know the long answer. aside of some reactions I am normally geenrally open minded to other opinions, even if I not like them.
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Uh-huh.
Guess what happened to developers of APB? Haha
Although not being able to properly control and plan the budget and schedules is a proper excuse for their total failure. I forgot.
why thank you for your answer.
times of old-style-mmo's are gone by. this game is not for suitable for today's mmo standard. i get that . havin nothing else in an mmo to do other than grinding and crafting is not a good side indeed.
actually i planed to compare today's game market with the essential message: "start and have fun all the way" to a old-school-type-mmo. but it seems out of context for that matter.
i bought a ps3 for the release and the pc version because im couldnt wait. (god knows now when they gonna release it, if they even do). so i kinda took the defense position for this game automaticaly. And yet i failed to realize one big thing: it's not 2002 anymore. i didn't care if the Q.Q-Babys would whine about every little stuff there is.
Tanaka's removal from the project showed me one thing in particular way: if it succeeds once, it's nice. but every mmo even a ff one has to be standing solid.
and for clarification i do not ask for an apology.
i started back in 2007 with ffxi. and i was dreaming and yapping about the possibility that i could start at the same time (well roughly couple months later, but still) as the other players. Exploring that world and adventuring. bad only if that adventure happens to be the same tree for logging the 3rd time in a row.
sucks for me the game turned out to be that bad. but that's my issue.
edit: read wrong thought you said gametrailers. the ffxiv review of gamespot was an absolute joke. and even by haters of the game this review was taken lightly serious.
As for the Gametrailers stuff: hawp and Pach-attack are awesome. the rest is crap you can barely watch wthout breathing manually.
as for the reviews i say gametrailers gave a pretty objectiv review for FFXIV. nothing wrong with that.
just so disapointed.... must hurt mob in abyssea for sealing my pain!
and oh yeah:
Hey i am not the one making excuses here. I am just surprised at your logic and criteria for chosing which is worst this year APB or FFXIV. But i have to say what days have come to when one has to argue if FFXIV is first or second worst of the year. I just realised how silly this argument is. lol
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
While the debate of Worse game of the year goes on, clearly FFXIV is at the top of every site list I have come across. In laymens terms, let the count decide which deserves such an award.
Here's MY opinion of the entire situation:
I EXPECTED APB to fail. They spent entirely too much on development and SEVERLY overhyped that amount. When the gameplay stuff game out it was middling at best. Not at all my type of game. So I never even bothered.
FFXIV is a Square-freakin-Enix game. They have a LONG history of providing entertaining games. That they released this info in beta saying there would be fixes, then people who PLAYED beta reported their thoughts, and the developers failed to do ANYTHING about it is gross negligence on their part. They PURPOSELY screwed over players by forcing a launch even though they weren't ready in order to attempt to pull in revenue. And frankly, the game still blows months after launch. Now the PS3 version has been put on hold indefinitely. Most disspointing and worse game people have all attempted to play.
(I say attempted because the game isn't really a game so much as an exercise in face palms and banging your head against a wall).
I want an "I voted" sticker.
Edit: And just to show you I don't HATE the game completely, I did NOT vote for FFXIV in EVERY bad category... for example, "Worst Sequel" was definitely a toss up between Star Wars Force Unleashed 2 (got my vote) and Crackdown 2.
This discussion reminds me of when Warhammer players and Age of Conan players were arguing over which game crashed the hardest. As if the results would somehow make one of those games better.
I'm not sure what's the argument here....the game as it is now (from someone currently playing mind you) is really....horrible. i honestly keep it becasue again....it's free until they fix it, and i want to see what they fix that will make me jump up and go "ok NOW i'll pay for this when it was free fro the last x ammount of months." also, i like the people in my LS, and even though i can talk to them because of mumble and vent talk to them without playing.....why not do those silly leves while we shoot the breeze, it's not like you gotta concentrate hard to do both.
If they improve the game, maybe you can defend them on the point of "they started out bad as hell, but they turned it around.' but i mean right now it DESERVES to be on that damn list, no way around it. and alot of you are dead on when you say SE had made a shit-ton of games...been in the busniess a long time and should have known way better than to pull this garbage off of a beta server and say "it's finished, play on." people who are getting pissy it's on the list are living in a mega sized delusion, it's bad....it's on the list, do like i do...deal with it.
If people don't want to keep it after they paid for the CE even with it being F2P until further notice, that's their prerogative. what do i care if they think it's crappy and don't want to play, hell i love cookies and cream ice cream, not everybody does, i'm not going to go out and shove it down their throats even if breyer's is giving it out for free. bottom line....it's on the list because it deserves to be there, i don't care how many subs it has, how established the company is. do i WANT them to improve it, hell yes, but it's there because it is...at the moment...a beautiful looking unplayable polished piece of ....well you get the drift. ;-)
Played:FFXI, WoW, LOTR,EQ. Playing:FFXIV.
Looking Forward To:DCU, SWTOR.
Well yes I still like it and being currnetly curious about the patch that still downloads *mumbles* While following some postings and checked the votes I sort of udnerstand the grudge of many.
However I have sort of noticed that people on this Forum that defend the new World of Warcraft Addon or at least strongly like Warcraft, seem to be the most active one in spread their dislike for Final Fantasy 14. While I am on the otehr hand have a deeper dislike for Warcraft for a while , being way more in defense for FF 14.
I mean this neither positive or negative, but can it be that people that prefer more likely a playstyle as it Warcraft offers against the game? It is not about the reasonable critic, I just noticed that these groups are kind of more enraged and more active in their complains?
I can honestly say while that I didn't think APB was all that great of a game, the amount of time I spent playing it in beta was waaaaay more fun than the time I spent playing FFXIV in retail on that buddy key. FFXIV frankly deserves to be on the worst of list and probably take first place.
There are rules against that, fines in some places as high as 500 dollars, and jail time for repeated offenses. Just saying.
Let me help you out with analogies. You could prolly make a face in front of his house everyday. I think that would work.
I cannot stand WoW.
Next theory?
Here's mine.
The game has nothing to do unless you want to craft ( in all its tediousness ) or do leves, both of which are monotonous and boring after more than a week of either. Or you can grind kill until your eyes bleed.
Still waiting for Final Crafter to become Final Fantasy.
Maybe they should have named the game Final Fantasy: the Dressmakers Edition.
Until I saw him, anyway.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-
I said mainly and that tehse are the one that are more active against the game. I not meant that others not dislike it. No reason to feel that directly spoken too. I meant not that someone that dieslikes Warcraft automatical lieks the game I just mean that these are more active in telliing their dislike. Maybe saying a higher % of these people come from there.
It is just a side aspect that bothers me and is not about the game being good or bad, ore about which palyer groups are more vocal than others.
Is this now more clearly? On the other hand propably most people active on this forum in general play warcraft. So the question is just i the higehr % is because here are more warcraft players around or if it is in general that way.
And this is not about likeing or dislikeing the game but mainly about telling active the like or dislike.
I'll vote for that, FF14 was the worse game I have ever played, and also the biggest letdown ever.
"An MMORPG could be completely diffirent from WoW. Just look at games like Dofus, Wizard101 or EVE. But as it is, most of the Western MMOs are trying to succeed by out-WoWing WoW. It's like an army of 10 sports games made about same sports, and barely none about other sports. WoW clone is an accurate description of those games, it manages to convey much information with only two words."
-Poster on mmorpg.com
Rift: World of Warcraft clone #9321 Nothing special to see here move along.
Ummm... No.
APB died because it was a bad game with fundamental issues the developers couldn't afford to fix.
Seriously.
You know, it's one thing being dedicated to bashing a game as some are to bashing FFXIV. It's something else altogether to lie and revise history about other games to do so. You are clearly doing the latter here.
There were articles, discussions and reviews aplenty discussing all the problems APB had as a game, discussing why it failed. To pretend otherwise is nothing short of utter dishonesty.
If APB had been a better game than it was and more people were playing it, "the developers not having enough money" wouldn't have been a problem.... because they'd have been making money.
As for knocking Hyanmen for defending FFXIV in comparison to APB... Holy hypocrisy Batman... Aren't you here propping up APB - a completely failed game - as compared to FFXIV? That door swings both ways, friend.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
How does it even matter if someone is WOW player or not? and how is that relevant? FFXIV is in its current situation because its a bad game. period. I for instance don't consider myself as a dedicated fan of any MMORPG. if game is good i defend it. I have played every MMO out there including FFXI (for 5 years). it is not hard to see how SE failed despite of 7 years of MMO experince behind them. A lot of players on these forums play all kind of MMOS and prefer not to be divided in camps or fan clubs for particular mmorpgs.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
That cracked me up :-)
Edit: And I think I'll play some FFIV tonight. That was a great game ;-)
im voting !!! right now !!!!!!!
Hmm looks like all get me a bit wrong there, it is just a statistical curiosity from my side nothing more or less.
I voted for it in the first category, proudly.
Despite what Square-Enix is trying to do to 'make things right' it is far too little, especially from a company the caliber of Square-Enix. People need to admit how bad this game is and, truth be told, people need to see this game be made an example of and Square-Enix be made an example of so that this doesn't happen again. The company doesn't need to fail, they're a great company that made a serious mistake. The game, however, needs to fail...or the players, developers and publishers will learn nothing.
That said, there is nothing at all wrong with what you've posted. Attention, the right attention, needs to be given to this game so that this doesn't happen again. People are paying for the box and a subscription for this, at least they were going to initially and will be when Square-Enix gets the game in a truly playable state, and they deserve to yell loudly about how badly they were put over by the company that made this game. It's complete and utter idiocy to try to squash threads like this and demonstrates something terrible about the community of players that want to silence those that are yelling that enough is enough and Square-Enix needs to be made an example of in this case.
(1)TL:DR must be your way of saying that thinking hurts. Then again, this may explain why it looks like you responded to the post without using your brain.
(2) It's not about community, is it? You just have nothing better to do.
well....it's free to play...so most of the argument loses wings...but yeah...they knew way better.
Played:FFXI, WoW, LOTR,EQ. Playing:FFXIV.
Looking Forward To:DCU, SWTOR.
Sooo in the end people really want to see the game technical burn not matter was Square does? Nice to know that this saves me a lot of time to argue with people that post about the game if there is so much hate behind the negative arguments.
They are not hateful. They feel betrayed by SE. Many people had a lot of faith SE was going to release a quality game. They let us buy something that was far from release condition.
Hell hath no fury like a fanboy scorned.
I love snails.
I love every kinda snail.
I just want to hug them all, but I cant.
Cant hug every snail.
uhm yes but would it not be actually better for all if they now turrn it after the huge wave of critic into a positive product? Not to mention if someone lieks this is supposed to write a review after maybe 6 months and several patches.
I find there is a lone between feeling betrayed and haveing a desire to see something burn. Yes it is really the result of failed expectation but I find these kind reactions really not healthy. I remind a lot of products in some cases book I really regret to buy in a case of one book my worst reaction was maybe that I tossed the book away and told friends that I found several topics and the way it was written disturbing and kind of doubtful, even some concerns that every normal youth could have been able to buy that book, but I have never had any kind of desire to see the books literally burn down.
MAybe deep dedicated fans to something are just well more passionate than I can understand.
If this is what you really think then you missed the whole point of my argument. That's a pretty incredible feat. I had a rather lengthy post written to respond to it but there is no point. Your response demonstrates that you clearly don't want to understand the bigger issue here and with this thread. I don't know why and I'm not going to hazard a guess. What I will say is that your attitude is part of the problem with mmorpgs players and pc gaming. I would write more, attempt to explain it to you, but I am firmly convinced that you just do not want to understand.
(1)TL:DR must be your way of saying that thinking hurts. Then again, this may explain why it looks like you responded to the post without using your brain.
(2) It's not about community, is it? You just have nothing better to do.
Hmmm maybe you are right or maybe I am right. Hard to tell by different point of views. Anyway I would be curious to know the long answer. aside of some reactions I am normally geenrally open minded to other opinions, even if I not like them.