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I just want a fun mmo that has interesting pve with a good amount of abilities to use and group based, I do not want something that forces you into spending loads of time into crafting or forming a group, pvp is ok, open world I can probably get use to, I enjoy pvp I just enjoy pve more. Please do not recommend eq2 I am very dissapointed with some of the changes right now.
I am download vindictus would be a nice distraction here and there, currently playing cox but starting to get bored, its fun but missions are way to repetitive.
I enjoy flashy visuals and also could not get into lotro, the lore makes the game to limiting in my opinion, but I understand the reason why it needs to be there of course.
So it comes down to fun visuals, sci fi or fantasy, no settings like fallen earth not my thing. Group focused game, honestly I can solo in much better games on console or even pc, and an interesting pve experience, thanks all.
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I suppose PvE can be interesting in Darkfall. It's mostly just grinding, but every now and then an 'epic boss' wonders by and it might or might not be aggressive. That's how I think of other players, though I'm sure other people have talked about it that way before. You could probably get into a guild pretty easily too, and that will help you with grouping. The spell animations seem pretty flashy to me, but that's just my opinion.
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DF and WAR both have below average PVE.
WOW and CoX had the most enjoyable PVE to me.
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I agree. WAR is really a PvP game, the PvE is limited to sub-par quests and typically empty public quests. DF on the other hand, is more of a "get ganked while grinding" game. I would have liked DF except for the fact that it takes MONTHS of steady grinding to even be remotely competitive in PvP. There are also basically no restrictions on powerful players ganking lowbies constantly.
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Have you tried Vanguard? That seems to fit the bill quite well.
For traditional fantasy PVE I dont think you can go wrong with LOTRO. Fantastic amount of content, very accessible and a fair bit of grouping if you look for it for the storyline quests and some of the instances.
I think LOTRO is the one place you can turn to now for a group-based (or solo based) steady PVE leveling path from around level 18 until 65.
Where LOTRO is lacking in my opinion is in a.) magic-just not enough magic in the game for me over all-I miss necromancers, enchanters, magicians -there is some w/ the LoreMaster and the new caster class-spellshifter? But generally speaking very little compared to most traditional fantasy titles. Other than that it has a fantastic path from newbie to level cap, tons of PVE content for solo and group, an awesome storyline quest and a good community and awesome graphics (particularly scenery and lighting).
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Darkfall PvE is fun for a little bit because the mobs have decent AI and actually act more like players. There is little story or quests if you like that.
Warhammer is okay PvE, but noone does it, cause you level in PvP nearly as fast.
If you are bored with CoX, you might be in a tough place, it has more variety in PvE than many games out. Only games I've played that compare in depth of PvE is Fallen Earth and you nixed that or Age of Conan. Both suffer a bit from being solo games most of the time imo if you like CoX type grouping.
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Group? LoTRO is becoming more and more of a single player RPG. Grouping in next to dead in that game unless you're at endgame and even some there's only a handful of 6mans and raids you can do over and over. Just wait a while even for Volume 2 to be converted to 100% solo, they are working on it as we speak and more Lone Lands like revamps to come to North Downs, Fornost etc to convert all their landscapes to 100% solo.
PvE it does have a lot..obviously now, it is only a PvE game. The PvMP is a gimmick.
I dunno-i recently re-leveled a character there and saw/grouped plenty of times on the way up. Great Barrows, Fornost, some of the group quests, various books. Its certainly not what it was-no MMO is in terms of grouping. But of the "newer" games on the market i think LOTRO probably has the most available group PVE content.
I certainly mourn the loss of every day PVE grouping in MMO's. I think the market has FAR over-reacted to the early complaints about games like eq1, daoc etc. FAR FAR FAR over reacted! And one of the fascinating things is they continue to over-react. They strip grouping, making everything solo/theme park and easy-yet they release failure after failure. Maybe someone will have the courage to look back on the golden age of MMOs (the eq1, daoc, ao, ac, UO, linegage, ffix) era and ponder why these games STILL have people playing them, still get mentioned on many favorites lists and have far outlasted and made more money then the recent rash of crap (aoc, war, ffix, sto, co) CRAP AAA titles that were solo friendly, themepark experiences.
LOTRO is the only game i can recall of the last three or so years that maintained some semblance of balance between what MMO's used to be and what they turned in to in the flawed reaction to WoW's success.
That said-were i looking for a fantasy based PVE game w/ grouping-id still turn to Lotro, because unfortunately there just arent that many more choices out there. DDO certainly has grouping but its a different kind of experience. AION has a fair bit of grouping but the grind there is something to be reckoned with.
dunno about darkfall but warhammer has terrible PvE. PvP lvls you faster (assuming you can find anyone to PvP with) so nobody really bothers with the PvE part of the game.
Not to get you all up in arms, by the way, but at the moment, I think World of Warcraft has the best grouping system by far. Regardless of WoW's generally accepted short-comings, there is no MMO currently on the market where grouping is so accessible as WoW's Dungeon Finder system, there is no MMO currently on the market that has such varied PvE quests (now that they introduced the newest expansion), and, to my rather extensive knowledge, there is no MMO currently on the market where end-game has such a strong emphasis on grouping. If only for grouping, you should at least play World of Warcraft.
Don't touch either of these titles is group PvE is what you're after.
Cox was one of my favorites for group PvE. I would play it today if there were something meaningful to do once you cap your character.
WoW has fairly excellent group PvE. I'm kind of on the same hunt as well. I'm looking for a group PvE game myself but unfortuntaely the industry has been overrun with teens getting all hopped up on mountain dew and energy drinks and can't be bothered to sit around waiting for a group to form. Consequently, games are typically made for solo with maybe a dungeon or elite quest sprinkled in here and there to give off the impression of an MMORPG and not a single player one.
I hear DDO has great grouping as well, but I could never get into it. Right now I'm trialing Eve and I'm already feeling the drag of flying around by myself all the time.
Also, dunno if it's your cup of tea, but Global Agenda can be surprisingly fun for PvE. The raid defense things are super awesome. If I'm not mistaken it's painfully inexpensive these days and could very well provide the month of entertainment that most people are looking for breaking from school for the winter.
There is 3? or 4? PvE end game dungeons in War. You either need to do each dungeon in order to get the gear (wards) to do later ones, or level your PvP rank high enough to skip some.
The only dungeon worth really doing is the very last one in land of the dead. It has items you would use till you are past RR80. It's so buggy it makes you cry. And they break more of it with each patch.
Don't play warhammer for it's PvE. The PQs were an amazing idea, but the rewards and xp are so low that just leveling/PvP is much better.
Don't go to War for the PvE.
You haven't mentioned WoW which of course many would agree that the PvE is superior to most and with the dungeon finder you can find groups more easily for some of the content, but largely it is perhaps too solo friendly for your needs.
Not sure why someone would care.
If you want to group, you group. You have fun.
Players who want to solo, solo. They have fun.
Everyone wins. Any whining about "solo friendliness" is nitpicking.
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You're confusing "solo friendliness" with "made for solo". There's a substantial difference between the two. "Solo friendliness" implies that you CAN solo if you want to. However, these days, things are made for solo which means you CAN group, but you won't be as efficient as doing things solo.
Some of us are old school and highly valued the MMO part of mmorpg. The idea of playing a game like that by yourself for any extended period of time was foreign.
My last three characters went level 1 to 80 faster than any of prior character. 80-95% of their XP was earned in groups (starting at level 15.)
...how is that not "made for group"?
You wouldn't say "all videogames are made for solo" just because some are solo. Some are made solo, some are made multiplayer. WOW is basically multiple games in one, with mostly balanced rewards between them (until endgame when it's all grouping...except they rename it to raiding and force you to deal with more noobs at once.)
Personally I think it's utterly irrational to refuse to see how group-friendly WOW is nowadays. Criticize its world simulation all you want (because nobody cares) but the game offers solid grouping and solid solo options.
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Before you get your panties in a wad maybe you could kindly point out where I made any reference to WoW?
However since you wanted to go there. Just because YOU have leveled your character faster each time while in a group a majority of the time does not mean that you couldn't have done it faster solo. Full XP for mob kills, don't have to wait for double drop rates.
I played WoW tons with my ex-gf and I'm fully aware that you can level up just fine perma-grouped. Having said that, WoW is group friendly (while leveling) but if you and the other person aren't on the same quests, then forget about it.
That's why randomly, people won't really group up together unless it's for protection in a hostile environment on a PvP server.
Again, I wasn't even making any reference to WoW (maybe the person you were quoting before was) so tranquilo pls.
My characters grouped entirely with randoms. If I'd played solo with the same amount of determination to level fast (ie not that much), I would've leveled slightly slower.
If I was more dedicated to leveling fast, I could get an addon. And I would get faster XP questing.
But if I was more dedicated, I would get friends to tag mobs. And I would achieve the fastest possible XP in WOW -- in a group. (It's how the world first level cap gets achieved each new xpack.)
So for both moderately-motivated and highly-motivated players, grouping is faster.
(And yes, the thread of conversation involved WOW (it was even in your quote), which is why I sounded so shocked.)
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darkfall has really really good mob AI, pve wise but the quests are nothing to write home about and you get ganked.
War has okay pve but the game itself is completely soulless and a disgrace to the legendary IP.
(imho)
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WAR's PvE is decent, especially if you pay attention to the stories. The problem for me though is that you can't level well on it. You will finish every quest for each tier and each pairing in that tier and will end up way too low to move onto the next tier, with the exception of tier 1. So, you'll be forced to either grind mobs for XP, which give very little per kill or you'll have to participate in PvP lakes and or scenarios in order to get those last few levels that will let you move on to the next area.
By the way, there are 4 tiers, each tier comprises a level range, approximately an 11 level spread per tier.
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About ddo, I really loved the dungeons and such but the abilities, yikes spamming the same attacks over and over and non stylish moves is what I was told when I asked in the forums, I think the only build with varied visual abilities was a caster. Other wise id be all over that game.
Wow, shudders, use to play it off and on, keep in mind here im an eq1 vet and no im not proud of it wasted a whole year on that crap, way to time consuming, it was a good game but requires way to much time to feel like anything is truly accomplished. Anyways wow is allot of fun, I loved the hunter for its diversity, but hated the easy mode of soloing but grouping was a blast with him, my second fav was the druid loved everything but fighting in animal form was to repetitive for my tastes, also had a mage and for some reason just couldnt get into him as much I usually love casters. But my main issue with it was pugs, and community, I cannot group with people who think chuck norris is really a main source of entertainment and an IQ of 60, I am not trying to be mean here but im serious, I could of sworn I was loosing brain cells everytime I turn on chat.
When it comes to grouping, I want to group with people who actually listen to each other and can actually talk work together as a team and maybe even rp, couldnt even find that on earthen ring which was an rp server, maybe it has changed now but I doubt it, instance grouping is what wow was about which was basicly every what 20 levels? Sure get your gear then move back on to soloing, I found soloing in wow fairly boring, pve in that game just was not that interesting to me. Felt meaningless.
I appreciate the advice so far, I will check out darkfall though, I can get used to being ganked adds to the challenge, I will pvp when im out and about, maybe even get deeper into the pvp aspect but I will always be a fan of pve more.
I will also check global agenda that game seems extremly repetitive though, I certainly was interested but from my understanding not much differant then cox, you jump into a mission like kill enemies then boss fight at the end and thats it, seems to be more of a pvp game. I am checking out star trek online right now, even if it doesnt last I may play it until something better comes out. I am a star trek fan.
Well Darkfall has so much PVE your head will spin, its sandbox however, not in the form of quests. Very functional crafting system with all the thrills of full loot pvp ffa. CHances are, unless your well versed in sandbox games, you will walk into darkfall, not see any real quest spam, not know what to do, get killed and lose your worthless items, then ragequit. Its got a nice and difficult learning curve, the UI doesnt help with this. Really a fun PVE game if you get into it however.
Warhammer has pve incorperated into PVP. Since the pvp is a matter of death followed by running back to where you got killed and repeating, the pvp often feels like pve. mostly aoe zerg vs zerg, its fun, especially in T1 (the free part) T2-T3 for me was nothing more than running laps for renown points witht the purpose of avoiding pvp, usually one mass per side will do laps around diffrent areas completing pve in pvp zome quests for the equipment.
In the end you'll end up sitting on some roof blasting the first basic spell Mana Blast or whatever it's called now.
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best pve games
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eq 1
eq2
vanguard
city of heros/ villans
lord of the rings
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