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How much do you think the high specs required to play this game will effect its success ?
OkhamsRazor
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I think from what I've seen that Rift has a lot of potential .The thing that concerns me most is that Trion may have developed a game that potential playerbase has been serverly limited by the high specs required to run it . My machine pretty much runs any game I've wanted it to run thus far even though I would say its towards the the mid range . For instance I can play AOC on high settings but it struggled with Rift on low when rift events were occuring or in pvp etc . The thing is I feel to play this to an acceptable level I would have to buy a new which is something I'm not prepared to do as yet given it work fine on the majority of games I wish to play (maybe in a year or twos time I will). In fact I did see people jokeing in the game "buy Rift buy a new laptop" etc . It seamed lots of people had issues with the specs . For an mmo to be successful it has to not overshoot the mark in terms of the specs required to run it or you serverly limit the number of people that will be able to play it . I'm actually all for mmos to push the graphics to the next level but its a tightrope developers have to walk if you go to far then it can ruin your chances . Do you think Trion may have gone a little to far bairing in mind if your someone with a beast of a machine that not everyone has one ?
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You running with a Nvidia Graphics card? Rift has frame rate issues with them.
My little laptop can run AoC on bleeding edge settings yet on rift i have it on high and i struggle to exceed 30fps.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
Well, all I can say it the game looks glorious maxed out!
Nvidia 275GTX @ 2 FTW!
I run this game perfectly fine with one 8800 gtx 2.4 quad proc and 4 gigs of ram. 45-70 fps. Also it is still in beta and I have seen great increase in performance as the process continues. So there should be no problem. Now if you wanna talk about a game limiting its success from specs, see ff xiv.
I almost feel the game is more cpu intensive as the posts of people with fps are those sporting quadcore and higher.
i ran this game, including rifts with many players on an AMD 3800 with 3gb ram and 8800GT card. That machine is like 4 years old.
i've now upgraded (it was due anyway), but i could play the game just fine on low settings with a crap computer.
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Umm yeah ok, No game out there utilizes quad core yet.
I think i normally run around 30 fps when I'm out on my lonely with a old 2.4ghz e6600 and gtx260. Any event or people around and it drops to 10 fps. This is on medium settings at 1680x1050.
It's very cpu intensive as far as I can tell.
I definitely think it could be optimized a bit more. The great thing about MMOs is you can >30 and still be "playable"
Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.
My backup computer is 4.5 years old and has a 8800 GT card and surprisingly it runs the game with 20 FPS on medium settings. I can't imagine anyone would try playing a MMO with much of a worse computer than this computer. The idea that such an old computer can run the game so well and the game still looks pretty amazes me. The problem I see is people expect their pentium Windows 98 systems to be able to play a modern MMO. Which is just silly. Buy a $300+ computer and the game will run more than fine.
This basically. The game will run 4-5 year old computers at low - mid settings.
That's more than acceptable imho.
I've been playing on my gaming rig and my laptop. The laptop requires the low qualityer renderer, but I've been surprised at how well the game still looks. It's very playable and still very fun. If you're playing an MMO for shiny graphics, you've got much bigger problems to worry 'bout.
E8600/4Gigs of 1333 and a GTX280, game runs fine.
I think the hardware requirements are pretty reasonable actually.
It runs a heck of a lot better than EQ2 did when it was new, that's for sure!
It was a LOT better in B4 than previous betas. Relax, they still have almost two months to tune and it is still running debug software.
and the devs have already said that multithreading and SLI/Crossfire are yet to be implemented. The game is running primarily on one core now.
so requireing you to have hardware produced within the last 5 years and not 10 years or older is high specs now?
im sorry but in the world of pc gaming hardware is dated at 12 months, old at 24 months, ancient at 36 months, and dinosaur at 48 months.
if you want the newest game to run on your machine more then 5 years after you bought it, then you need to game on consoles.
^^^ This ^^^
I've messed around with the settings throughout all the betas....and while playing with "low" settings, the game still looks great.
I bought my new PC in Feb. of 2009 with my tax return, it's a Gateway DX, Core 2 Quad Core, 2500 mhz, 4 gigs of ram, with a BFG Geforce 9600 GT 512 factory overclocked. I paid 650.00 for the tower, then 160.00 for the card at the time. I recently played WoW for the first time in years on it, and realized I was not doing my computer justice. After that I came to grips that I wanted a new MMO that was alot prettier, not that graphics are everything.. but honestly they matter to me. Then I found the Rift Beta.
I ran it on ultra at 1680x1050 on a 22 inch LCD, and my card purred to life.. it looked amazing. However there are some settings you can turn down of course. I turned a few settings down, but kept textures/lighting/models all maxed out. Saturday night when they did the crazy Rift invasion event there were about 75-100 players on my screen plus monsters/nameplates/pets and multiple rifts and I was still getting good FPS. I'm guessing my FPS went down to around 15 when where were 50+ people bashing on a giant skeleton, but that was basically on Ultra mind you. Any other point in game it's butter. Also Rift goes very well with beer. Basically what I'm saying is my computer is not top of the line anymore, but it's still very nice at two years old. You could build the same PC now for probably 400.00 and get a card of equal power and play Rift with no worries. Dual cores should also work fine.
--Chris
The graphic card is everything in gaming, the CPU doesn't change a lot is long as you have a decent dualcore (a seriously bad one will of course change this fact).
Buy an ATI HD 6000 series, preferably 6800+ and you can run this game on high.
I run an 4870 and I can play on ultra with minor issues, so I play on high and I get no stuttering ever.
200$ or something like that
IT'S WORTH IT!
Please do not hype any gam.. oh wait, nevermind... forgot what forum I was on.
The game ran fine for me on my e8400, 4gb ram, Win7, radeon 5850 1gb.
What high specs?
This game doesn't need a high end PC to run maxed out perfectly at HD resolution (1920*1080).
Of course, if you think 800 eur PC is High End you're correct.
To answer the original question, yes it will hinder the success. That doesn't mean it won't be successful, but you won't get the crowd that upgrades their pc every 8 years. As far as these forums go you won't see many people who don't ugrade their rigs often. But trust me they will miss out on a lot of people because of the higher specs.
That being said, the recommended reqs don't look too crazy high, aside from the video card.
That's odd - I have a factory overclocked HD 6850, a 3.2 quad and 8 gb ram and all I can muster is 35-40 fps tops in ultra mode. There was mention on the forums about Rift not playing nice with AMD drivers past 10.10 though. Many others with super fast rigs getting some lower than average fps too but I still love the game and have preordered and subbed 6 mos!
Thread too long, didn't read. Besides, this seems the sort of thing that I can just respond to the OP and still be adding something. OK, that said...
At about the same time, two well funded MMOs came out years ago. One had graphics which were good, but not mind-blowing, and relied more on the established style of an existing franchise to give the game a certain look. The other game had graphics which put a heavy strain on even the best systems, and would continue to do so for some time after its release. Although both games made money, and are still doing well years later, the first has a larger audience.
I speak, of course, of WoW and EQ2. Although a great many factors contributed to WoW being the greater commercial success, I recall some friends telling me they were playing WoW, as some friends and I started playing EQ2, simply because it ran better on their hardware. Certainly marketing, the strong existing Warcraft/Blizzard fan base, etc helped a lot, but I'm sure the ability, even back then, for many people to play the game on a laptop had an impact.
So, to answer the question(finally), I think it will cause some people to give Rift a pass, or at least wait to see how it does, and give the hardware time to become cheaper. Still, EQ2 is still around, and making Sony plenty of money, so I don't see this as something that will cause Rift to fail.
As I said I could quest quite ok at acceptable levels on low settings it was in RIfts and Towns things slowed down quite badly to around 10-15 fps .
I would say a mid range new PC of around 800 euros might handle it at maybe medium very well including the graphics intensive Rift events and on high setting for questing . Certainly not on maxed out at such resolutions so I simply think your being ecconomical with the truth there .
But again you have to bair in mind most people dont buy a new PC every year . The majority have machines that are proberbly around 2-3 years old of varying different specs .Most of people arn't hardcore gamers . Also given this current climate people proberbly arn't upgrading as frequently as they once did .
Its a great game and I hope people play it but many of the comment in these forums arn't what I and many friends experianced in the beta . But we do have to remember it is a beta and upon release things may change .
Yeah I was thinking the same thing the only people I know who could have that sort of performace on the kind of getting he mentioned are the with machines like yours .
I totally agree I dont think it cause Rift to fail . Its too good a game to fail like that . What it may do though is limit its success . As it stands I may play it next year or the year after when I'm due to upgrade my PC again . I can't see the point in doing to for just one game when I can run pretty much everything else I want to on it . Oh could play DCU at high settings too and very smoothly .