Why does everyone have this mistaken impression that Aion is doing poorly.
On that note I really think that Rift might do well.There are a lot of very dissatisfied WoW players that might be attracted to it and judging from the posts and other references that actually appear on the front page here on recent posts there might be a reasonable number of players willing to play Rift as an alternative to WoW.
I am not trying to call Rift a clone or anything but the similarities of some aspects to it the might be familiar and welcomed by poeple whose first MMORPG was WoW. I actually like Rift and will be playing it come March.
Actually Aion is second biggest MMO in the market atm, so you're pretty wrong on that one.
Link? I just checked, no recent numbers published to verify your statement that i can find. They went through a round of server merges last summer and if history is any indicator, the bulk of their subs come from Korea, which doesn't mean a whole lot in the greater scheme of western MMORPG gaming.
But back to Rift. The market is actually pretty ready for a polished theme park style game for WOW players to transition to and Rift might be that game.
Real test will be when the other major players finally join in, (SWTOR, GW2) will Rift have enough content to retain their player base or will everyone march off to play the next new game.
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Some of my friends already pre ordered rift, and I am about to do it too.
Game looks really good at this point and it will probably stay that way, since release is less than 3 months away.
To me, it looks like it could be a big player in MMO world, maybe I'm wrong, but this game looks better now than most of the games with large player base.
Actually Aion is second biggest MMO in the market atm, so you're pretty wrong on that one.
Link? I just checked, no recent numbers published to verify your statement that i can find. They went through a round of server merges last summer and if history is any indicator, the bulk of their subs come from Korea, which doesn't mean a whole lot in the greater scheme of western MMORPG gaming.
But back to Rift. The market is actually pretty ready for a polished theme park style game for WOW players to transition to and Rift might be that game.
Real test will be when the other major players finally join in, (SWTOR, GW2) will Rift have enough content to retain their player base or will everyone march off to play the next new game.
The vast majority of WoW subs come from asia as well, because WoW subs in NA has seen a steady decline, but the net result has been an increase with the release of a remodified WoW in China.
Aion is a major success in the MMORPG world, as well as WoW, so no one really nit picks where the subs come from. There is no such thing as West vs East from my view point.
Rift will catch a lot of people by surprise, because frankly, not many are expecting such an MMORPG to emerge from the shadows while everyone is talking about the TOR and GW2.
Actually Aion is second biggest MMO in the market atm, so you're pretty wrong on that one.
Link? I just checked, no recent numbers published to verify your statement that i can find. They went through a round of server merges last summer and if history is any indicator, the bulk of their subs come from Korea, which doesn't mean a whole lot in the greater scheme of western MMORPG gaming.
But back to Rift. The market is actually pretty ready for a polished theme park style game for WOW players to transition to and Rift might be that game.
Real test will be when the other major players finally join in, (SWTOR, GW2) will Rift have enough content to retain their player base or will everyone march off to play the next new game.
The vast majority of WoW subs come from asia as well, because WoW subs in NA has seen a steady decline, but the net result has been an increase with the release of a remodified WoW in China.
Aion is a major success in the MMORPG world, as well as WoW, so no one really nit picks where the subs come from. There is no such thing as West vs East from my view point.
Rift will catch a lot of people by surprise, because frankly, not many are expecting such an MMORPG to emerge from the shadows while everyone is talking about the TOR and GW2.
People just do not want to hear it. Hell, even Blizzard does not want to hear it themselves.
Just go have a look at the Realm Status pages on the WoW site.
Just out of interest I sometimes go and check the Realm Status page on the European wow site.
Last I checked was about a week after Cataclysm and I was really shocked!
As even so short after their third expac release, over half the European WoW servers had a low population (at peak time hours!). I kid you not.
And this is pretty much the case already since I left WoW myself shortly after TBC expac release. Altho WotLK expac saw a spike in players for some months.
Blizzard seems to be terrified for bad press and just refuses to even think about the idea of server merges! Eventho in Europe alone they can easily consolidate over 30 to 40% of their realms and basically save a lot of costs.
They are just so terrified, as it would show the world that even the KING of MMO's (World of Warcraft) is not immune and is suffering from loss of subsribers. At least here in the West.
That's why I take all the subscription number and revenue announcements from Blizzard with a grain of salt.
Actually Aion is second biggest MMO in the market atm, so you're pretty wrong on that one.
Link? I just checked, no recent numbers published to verify your statement that i can find. They went through a round of server merges last summer and if history is any indicator, the bulk of their subs come from Korea, which doesn't mean a whole lot in the greater scheme of western MMORPG gaming.
But back to Rift. The market is actually pretty ready for a polished theme park style game for WOW players to transition to and Rift might be that game.
Real test will be when the other major players finally join in, (SWTOR, GW2) will Rift have enough content to retain their player base or will everyone march off to play the next new game.
The vast majority of WoW subs come from asia as well, because WoW subs in NA has seen a steady decline, but the net result has been an increase with the release of a remodified WoW in China.
Aion is a major success in the MMORPG world, as well as WoW, so no one really nit picks where the subs come from. There is no such thing as West vs East from my view point.
Rift will catch a lot of people by surprise, because frankly, not many are expecting such an MMORPG to emerge from the shadows while everyone is talking about the TOR and GW2.
People just do not want to hear it. Hell, even Blizzard does not want to hear it themselves.
Just go have a look at the Realm Status pages on the WoW site.
Just out of interest I sometimes go and check the Realm Status page on the European wow site.
Last I checked was about a week after Cataclysm and I was really shocked!
As even so short after their third expac release, over half the European WoW servers had a low population (at peak time hours!). I kid you not.
And this is pretty much the case already since I left WoW myself shortly after TBC expac release. Altho WotLK expac saw a spike in players for some months.
Blizzard seems to be terrified for bad press and just refuses to even think about the idea of server merges! Eventho in Europe alone they can easily consolidate over 30 to 40% of their realms and basically save a lot of costs.
They are just so terrified, as it would show the world that even the KING of MMO's (World of Warcraft) is not immune and is suffering from loss of subsribers. At least here in the West.
That's why I take all the subscription number and revenue announcements from Blizzard with a grain of salt.
It just not blizzard padding their numbers a lot of game companies try that hogwash. I.E. DDO saying that have 1 million subs, Lotro claiming they have a 300% increase in revenue. A lot of games do that becasue they want folks to be interested, and they dont want the real news to get out that there might be an issue.
The game should be "OK". SWTOR and GW ( to a limited extent no sub and all) might take a bite. But for the forseeable future until those go into open Beta I feel that likely the game will be a hit. Not a WoW killer or anything like that just a hit. The one thing this game has going for it is that it feels done already. One of hte biggest complaints is waiting for fixes in those initial months. If it can deal with that and add endgame content I don't see why it shouldn't survive.
I think for the most part it will be ok. They will sell a ton of boxes at launch. Everyone will praise Trion and claim that WoW is doomed (based off claims from forum posters that cannot post links or offer any proof). After about 60 days, most people will be at the max cap and realize that Rift is just another quest grinder with the standard gear/level treadmill. These people will come back here and flame Rift for not delivering a completely different gaming experience. After about 90 days EQ2/LotRO/WoW should see their subs stabilizing again.
I feel as though they are focusing working on the endgame content alot more than bug fixes (come launch that is). But i dont know i dont work from trion but im sure they are working on satisfying the masses as much as possible without greatly hindering the game.
I plan on playing Rift long term so I hope it does very well. I am really hoping for a particular kind of success. I don't want it to become a victim of it's own growth with so many people that it starts struggling with server loads and queues. However I don't want Trion looking for a buyer for a game that isn't making them money...because that will mean a buyout, never a good thing.
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Same as Aion but this time the gimmick is the rifts. Hows Aion doing these days? -Answer is: noone cares.
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Actually Aion is second biggest MMO in the market atm, so you're pretty wrong on that one.
Why does everyone have this mistaken impression that Aion is doing poorly.
On that note I really think that Rift might do well.There are a lot of very dissatisfied WoW players that might be attracted to it and judging from the posts and other references that actually appear on the front page here on recent posts there might be a reasonable number of players willing to play Rift as an alternative to WoW.
I am not trying to call Rift a clone or anything but the similarities of some aspects to it the might be familiar and welcomed by poeple whose first MMORPG was WoW. I actually like Rift and will be playing it come March.
Link? I just checked, no recent numbers published to verify your statement that i can find. They went through a round of server merges last summer and if history is any indicator, the bulk of their subs come from Korea, which doesn't mean a whole lot in the greater scheme of western MMORPG gaming.
But back to Rift. The market is actually pretty ready for a polished theme park style game for WOW players to transition to and Rift might be that game.
Real test will be when the other major players finally join in, (SWTOR, GW2) will Rift have enough content to retain their player base or will everyone march off to play the next new game.
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Some of my friends already pre ordered rift, and I am about to do it too.
Game looks really good at this point and it will probably stay that way, since release is less than 3 months away.
To me, it looks like it could be a big player in MMO world, maybe I'm wrong, but this game looks better now than most of the games with large player base.
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The vast majority of WoW subs come from asia as well, because WoW subs in NA has seen a steady decline, but the net result has been an increase with the release of a remodified WoW in China.
Aion is a major success in the MMORPG world, as well as WoW, so no one really nit picks where the subs come from. There is no such thing as West vs East from my view point.
Rift will catch a lot of people by surprise, because frankly, not many are expecting such an MMORPG to emerge from the shadows while everyone is talking about the TOR and GW2.
Hu ?
It is ?
Sources ?
Because I only hear from people who stopped playing it very fast again.
If Aion is such a hit, who does actually play it ? The asians ?
Which "most" MMO's have crash and burned to date? Tabula Rasa... The Matrix Online... errmm... APB.
Exceptions, not the norm. lol.
People just do not want to hear it. Hell, even Blizzard does not want to hear it themselves.
Just go have a look at the Realm Status pages on the WoW site.
Just out of interest I sometimes go and check the Realm Status page on the European wow site.
Last I checked was about a week after Cataclysm and I was really shocked!
As even so short after their third expac release, over half the European WoW servers had a low population (at peak time hours!). I kid you not.
And this is pretty much the case already since I left WoW myself shortly after TBC expac release. Altho WotLK expac saw a spike in players for some months.
Blizzard seems to be terrified for bad press and just refuses to even think about the idea of server merges! Eventho in Europe alone they can easily consolidate over 30 to 40% of their realms and basically save a lot of costs.
They are just so terrified, as it would show the world that even the KING of MMO's (World of Warcraft) is not immune and is suffering from loss of subsribers. At least here in the West.
That's why I take all the subscription number and revenue announcements from Blizzard with a grain of salt.
It just not blizzard padding their numbers a lot of game companies try that hogwash. I.E. DDO saying that have 1 million subs, Lotro claiming they have a 300% increase in revenue. A lot of games do that becasue they want folks to be interested, and they dont want the real news to get out that there might be an issue.
I predict a Warhammer - esque line for Rift.
The game should be "OK". SWTOR and GW ( to a limited extent no sub and all) might take a bite. But for the forseeable future until those go into open Beta I feel that likely the game will be a hit. Not a WoW killer or anything like that just a hit. The one thing this game has going for it is that it feels done already. One of hte biggest complaints is waiting for fixes in those initial months. If it can deal with that and add endgame content I don't see why it shouldn't survive.
I think for the most part it will be ok. They will sell a ton of boxes at launch. Everyone will praise Trion and claim that WoW is doomed (based off claims from forum posters that cannot post links or offer any proof). After about 60 days, most people will be at the max cap and realize that Rift is just another quest grinder with the standard gear/level treadmill. These people will come back here and flame Rift for not delivering a completely different gaming experience. After about 90 days EQ2/LotRO/WoW should see their subs stabilizing again.
I feel as though they are focusing working on the endgame content alot more than bug fixes (come launch that is). But i dont know i dont work from trion but im sure they are working on satisfying the masses as much as possible without greatly hindering the game.
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Based on the amount of good feedback as well as my own personal feelings after playing beta...i can say this game will do just fine.
I plan on playing Rift long term so I hope it does very well. I am really hoping for a particular kind of success. I don't want it to become a victim of it's own growth with so many people that it starts struggling with server loads and queues. However I don't want Trion looking for a buyer for a game that isn't making them money...because that will mean a buyout, never a good thing.