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Rift Beta 5: I haven't been this excited for ages.
sayuri2006
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After signing up a beta key for the Rift Beta 5 and creating a new account before I pre-order the game, I am thrilled to recieve this following e-mail from Trion Worlds:
Congratulations!
You've been selected to participate in this week's RIFT™ beta event
The RIFT beta continues this week with the next beta event, Battle of the Ascended, which is set to begin Tuesday, Jan. 25, 2011 at 10:00 AM PST (18:00 GMT) and run through 10:00 AM PST (18:00 GMT) on Friday, Jan. 28, 2011..
Follow these instructions to join this beta event:
Sign into your Trion Worlds account.
Click the "Download Client" link from your account page.
Run the installer and follow the directions.
Run the Patcher: Navigate to where you installed RIFT in the START menu and click the PLAY RIFT shortcut. Enter the Email Address and Password used for your Trion Worlds account and log in.
I have never gotten into any other beta events for any other games, even when I did try, so this is more than good news. It is good to see a company that is trying to spread the good value and feedback from fellow gamers.
Beta 5 will be testing various things, not least the PVP side of things as well as testing PVE content from level 1-30.
To be honest here guys, I have to admit, I do NOT care about the naysayers about this game, let them believe that the "pie in the sky" for them is their saving grace.
The feedback for Rift from the Beta testers has been positive and rewarding which is outstanding and I for one am looking forward to dusting off my sword, my bow and my staff and to unleash hell in Telara.....
See you ingame!
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very nice to see a developer making enough beta keys to people who are considering this game. I wish I had participated in the previous betas but alas, I'm excited too
I too got a BETA invite and am very excited! I was planning on pre-ordering but the Mrs was all 'What if you buy it and hate it blah blah' so I'm glad I can test before I throw my cash down. Hopefully it'll be good enough to make me want to quit WoW!
Yes, me too.
Trying to contain the excitment (and self-hype) because we've been told very clearly that it is mostly the usual MMO fare. The crafting is standard. The questing is standard or even below standard. I don't PvP.
This leaves dungeons (which are reportedly excellent), an intriguing soul system and the dynamic event system (ala Rifting) to lift the game.
What I find also exciting is how many keys Trion has sent out. I thought the 25 keys per newsletter was very smart. They are really gaining some momentum and brimming with confidence in their event system and in the polish they have attained. Good on them!
This is a bad sign. The hype always peaks before the crash of dissapointment.
Im not saying people will be dissapointed during the betas, quite the opposite.
Every single game that reaches a fever pitch before launch, and turns out to be more or less a decent game but nothing special, turns into disaster as the fever pitch hpye wears off and the hangover of it being just another game settles in.
I really hope im wrong about this, that rift really is something diffrent and breaks all sort of records. However what im seeing here is the same thing i saw before Warhammer, Darkfall, AoC, The Chronicals of Spellborn, FFXVI, and Aion...it just feels so familiar that i cant help but think i know the outcome.
Not saying this game will die an ugly death in 6months, just that it will have a similair population to a lot of the game i pointed out as having the same fever pitch hype before launch, and are now back to earth and the reality that they are all games that are not the end-all be-all games the community thought they were beofre playing them for a month+
Be careful getting your hopes up on games that are not proven via the trials of time. Fanbois are all too often ressurected as zombie haters, forever trolling that games forums trying to turn away as many players as possible.
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im not trying to stomp anyone hopes and dreams here, and im no Rift hater, ill be in the beta just like everyone else. Just been though too many of these launches to fall for the hype, seen too many times the result of overhyping a game and what it does to a large and loving community. Its gonna be popcorn time in the forums i think, not now, but soon.... just a heads up
Thank you Nostradomus for your prediction. As for me, I've been in all 4 betas and I've seen what this game can do so far. On top of that a few Alpha people (frustrated over the nay-sayers) have said that a vast majority of content hasn't even been pushed to the Beta servers. We'll see, but I think most that have played the game have a fair understanding of what to expect. For those that haven't played the game, doing research would be wise to know what the game is and is not for that matter.
I for one am excited for Beta 5 because the game is fun.
I hear what you're saying, and I agree with the general idea, but I have a bit of a clarification. Some of those games you listed were strongly hyped before beta, and that plummeted during beta because they simply weren't solid games *cough*FFXIV*cough*. Others, like Aion, had an okay beta, but lacked the depth needed to be successful. Just wanted to clarify that there were two different times for "hype" to drop, and Rift has passed the first one, very well actually. Whether it has the depth needed to hold an audience wont be seen until release.
Well my list of games i compared Rif to in my quoted post, all were fun games, i played them all and enjoyed all of them, except for Aion. Of course Rift will be fun, that isnt the issue i highlighted.
This issue is that people have such high hopes and expectations for Rift, im not sure it will live up to it after a month of play.
Ive seen a lot of issues arise only a month after launch, that were not apparent during any of the testing phases.
I am excited for the next beta as well, it will be my first time trying Rift. It seems interesting, and exactly the type of game i would enjoy long term, but like i said, ive been down that path so many times.
I do have magical abilities that allow me to enjoy games for what they are, as long as its playable and full of human players (why i didnt like aion it was neither) Im sure ill enjoy Rift for a while, if i decide to sub.
Its not me im worried about, its the crowd, the masses. A game like rift doesnt sound fun if half the community leaves a month in, with the PVP focus and all. Something like that ruins the server balace and general mood of the community and can quickly turn a game that was fun into a game thats full of draman and negative emotions.
I just hope that everyone doesnt put the game on such a high pedistal that they are unable to enjoy it as an average game or a game that simply isnt the greatest game in the world.
And its true, for the games i suggested as comparison, most of those games came with dire warning from beta tester, except aion, that game had great beta world of mouth.
Nah, it's not even close.
Warhammer was supposed to be one thing and didn't bring it home for all the people who played it. they were expecting DAoC 2 but a warhammer version and they didnt' even get anything close. The pvp lakes didn't have a lot of people because the scenarios were the fun part and the pve was dopey. I mean, you see two npc's talking so you pull one and the second one stands there and continues to talk while the one you pulled comes at you? Dopey.
Darkfall is an indy game which was in a huge developement cycle, people thought it was vaporware and it just had issues. Now, having said that I can say a lot of positive things about it, but Rift is far more polished than Darkfall and "is what it is".
AoC had those first 20 levels which were a completely different type of game play than the rest of the game. Dumb decision. And it felt creaky. Rift does NOT feel creaky.
Chronicles of Spellborn, sadly, I had to take off my computer for a silly reason. The very first quest asked me to run and collect these reports from different towers. That and the horrible tutorial just made me lose interest. More my issue there but I just couldn't get the engergy to go on. Rift has a far more energetic start as long as you dont make too many alts. Then I think the repetiion might get you.
Final Fantasy 14 has a lot of good thing mucked up by a weird interface. That and a slower paced game than what players are used to and it just loses traction.
aion, loved aion but it wasn't the game I thought it was going to be and I knew this once I was in beta. Also, it wasn't clear to the pve players that they couldn't avoid pvp all together and the levelign was harder than most players were used to from CoH and WoW. Lots of complaints there.
In Rift, as long as you can get to experience the rifts and invasion you should get the gist of the game. It really just is what it is for better or worse depending upoin your tastes.
If players just do the quests and don't push through the linear questlines then they will be missing a fun and exciting game.
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The haters are ridiculous. The hype for rift is legit. In fact the only hype this game has is from beta testers being astonished with the quality of gameplay. THe beta testers then spread the word to everyone they know. Rift is that good. RIft is better then every game that been released since eq1 and (hate to admit it) WoW. Finally we have a game that will be a solid ride. FInally we have a game that is beautiful AND playable. During BETA with 60+ people on the screen, my fps never dipped to a stagger. I was stunned. I thought all betas were supposed to be buggy. Not RIFT.
Im glad you got in beta. Ill see you there. I suggest you plan a few solid hours of uninterruption. You are in for a ride. Prepare to marvel at how exciting the Defiant opening zone is. Holy shit, its a trip. The very first time you see a rift form will amaze you. That there is a threat soldier, take it out.
Prepare to start a few characters. Trying to find the right build for you can be maddening. You have soo much to plan for. I would suggest thinking about what you want to do for your group and heading over to a soul calculator to review the differnt skills and classes. This is not a game where you are awarded new spells every time you ding. You actually have to spend points in trees to unlock new spells and abilities.
Im only pissed that this beta event is smack in the middle of my work week. I guess they planned this. Not everyone has the weekend off. Its fair to those types. In truth, they probably did it this way because it is during Trions work week. Maybe the peons will have a weekend off this time.
Well i have played in all the beta's to date and after the last one i found the toon i had a blast with .
And right now i just cant wait to play again
Well Aion had been out in Korea for months before it hit Beta here. So it really wasn't a Beta, considering the game was basically a port. The westernization of Aion didn't start happening until almost a year later.
But back on topic, those that have played Rift seem to enjoy it and are very grounded. There are many that tried it out, especially in Beta 1 and despise it. It's not the game they want to play. They want a MMO that's not like a traditional MMO. If you go in knowing what you're getting, you'll like it.
Rift is a polished game and if you want to compare lack of bugs, it destroys the most recent MMO (if you can call it that) DCUO. Comparing the other games to Rift isn't accurate. The most accurate cautionary tale you could give someone is Rift is NOT an action sandbox FFA PvP MMORPG. It's got a very similar UI to WoW and EQ. It has a fairly traditional quest system. It has a traditional craft system.
On top of all that foundation, it has much, much more - including a large portion of End Game content and a soul system that will take you weeks of constantly tweeking and perfecting only to switch it up again to try something new. Back that up with one of the most exciting Dev team to come around to this genre in a long time and the hype builds. Because of that the hype is grounded on fact from actual experiences and not hope. That's your difference between Rift and the other games you listed.
This is what im talking about. This post sums up the over hype in its entierty. So what happens duel, when after a month of play, the shine wears off, and...its not a bad game, but still its not the end all be all of mmorpgs that you think it is now.
Yeah im sure the starter areas are a blast, and everything looks cool ect. So did aion, the starter area was great, and (oddly enough) when a rift formed, it was great, amazing. One month later, the massive pvp was unplayable for most, the rifts would still form but nobody used them, there was not point, as fun as it was raiding the other side, they were ignored.
About that time too reports from the powerlevelers were comming in that Aion was just another grinder towards the stretch to endgame, and when they made it there, that epic raid boss pvpve fight grew stale and there was not much else to do, that hadnt been done the whole ride up to level cap.
Im not comparing Rift to Aion, just how the hype works, you even called me a hater, i dont hate Rift, im just looking at it in a realistic manner, based on solid history. They all said they were going to be diffrent from eachother, each and every game was toted as the game that wont fail, the game thats better than the rest...now look at them, back on earth, in reality, the hype long gone.
I really hope im wrong, the industry really needs a game that delivers on the hype, not just at launch but long term.
Theres nothing said about this game that wasnt said about the games i mentioned, sure they all had diffrent approaches to systems/mechanics/goals, i can only compare warhammer and darkfall on their prelaunch hype, not on the game itself.
What it all boils down to, is that RIft doesnt do anything particulairly new, so it better get it right on execution, where past games with similair ideas (not all of rifts ideas but some) had failed to make it interesting long term.
Remember getting you to buy the game is the goal, and in this industry the ends justifies the means, theres so many examples of this i dont think i need to cite it. For Trion worlds its about money at the end of the day, and its suppose to be that way as a functioning business. Remember this when fawning over their explainations, plans, and discussions over their game. They wont come right out and say it if there potentially issues, on the hardware side, the software side, or on private focus group testing results.
I think if everyone took a deep breath, played the game as is, without the hype and expectations, they would enjoy it a lot more, its how i enjoyed several of the most hated mmorpgs in existance. I fear the horde of zombie haters that will spawn out of the first month of this game, if it doesnt live up to the almost unrealistic hype already genreated.
I am not exactly sure what you are going on about. You are expecting alot more from a game than I would. You expect some sorta messiah. RIft is a quality themepark, The hype is worth it. In a month when the shine wears off, alot of people will still be subbed. There are no technical issues.
I kinda feel sorry for Mr. Doubter here. Its like he has been let down so many times in life that he never trusts in anything anymore. Kinda makes me sad for him.
On a bright note, Rift hype is 100% generated by the people who have tried it and liked it. Its word of mouth hype, you know the opposite of what you got from the BETA testers in FFXIV. I'ld call it justified for Rift, just like the negative was justified for FFXIV.
But on a more personal note, someone please make Mr. Doubter feel better, he is bringing the rest of us down.
Well im not sure whats so confusing for you. Obviously you didnt comprehend what i wrote if you think i expect a holy grail game. That is in fact quite the opposite of what ive been writing about on this thread.
Im not sure what thre reason for the failure to communicate that properly is.
Yes there are no techincal issues now, as there were no techincal issues in Aion, untill the game launched and everyone and their mother took part in the fortress seiges, all of a sudden there were plenty of techincal issues, it was unplayable for a majority, and a big reason lots of people, including me, didnt last longer than a month. I hate that i have to keep bringing up Aion, but its the most recent example of the overhype not panning out a month into the game.
We cant possibly know things like that untill its live and everyone tries to do it. No example can be given that can accuratly predict what happens when everything goes live, and theres no way to predict what a majorty of the games future population will feel at endgame.
Endgame kills a lot of otherwise decent games. We wont know if Rifts endgame keeps people long term untill a lot of people get there and experience it for a little, theres absolutly no way to simulate that, since the trip to endgame effects it. What if the pvp get tiersom by the time everyones at level cap?
I hope that clears up things a bit, i know its not what you want to hear, you have already decided that this will be the best game ever, and thats fine, a lot of people already agree with you (im still undecided but have hope)
Lol again, missing my point entierly.
If you had read what i wrote, it was that i enjoyed all those games that failed to keep the long term hype. All of those games are now hated by a lot of people. I didnt get hyped up over them, and was able to enjoy them when they dissapointed everyone else so terribly that they turned into perma-haters. That is not how i roll.
Ill enjoy rift for what it is, its just sad to see a game reach a level of hype that it probably will never live up to, just like every other game that does this.
I think my point may be lost here however. The hype is strong with this one.
Lol, Gratz.
It is pretty easy to get into the Rift beta by now, I think Trion want everyone to get their chance of the game.
But it is a good thing, besides trying the game you also get a slightly higher chance to join next beta, people who never even been in beta are not the main priority exactly.
Have fun.
Im sorry. I do not intend to be rude. Is Aion the only game you have played? I have played everyone of them. Im a gamer. The best game of all time was EQ1. Aion was a korean grinder that was ported to the west. Sorry to burst your bubble. I played it at launch. I was there. I agree the endgame sucked.
This is a forum specifically for Rift. People get together and talk about Rift. We appreciate rift. I have played in beta. I dont think you have ever played Rift. You just argue with me bc I say its the most polished release since wow. I hated wow, but gguess what, I was there at launch too. Rift has more polish than wow did at relase. Rift is still in beta. I dont get what you are so butt hurt about.
Perhaps.
But trying to work out how long a game will retain subscribers is futile. The only people who have seen the endgame of Rift so far, the alpha testers, seem to also be hyped. But for now, I've really enjoyed what I've played, I'll play Beta 5, and I've been impressed enough to pre-order and sub 6 months.
I might end up only playing 3 or 4 months, heck the whole thing could come crashing down after 2, but I really doubt it, because this game actually is better in my opinion. Raiding and endgame is an extrapolation of their Dungeon making ability, and their Dungeons are AAA quality.
Obviosuly you are replying without having read a word i wrote.
And again missing my point 100%
Why do you think im hurt in some way?
You sir get a D- for reading comprehension, if you even read before directly replying to me at all.... I suggest you re read if you want to continue a conversation.
Well, there are different meanings around here. Some love it, some hate it and some think it is OK. But taste differs and you can't expect everyone to like the same games, movies or music, a world like that would be boring.
And yes, it is polished, I dunno if I would say it destroys DCU, DCU is an action MMO while Rift is a MMORPG, they are not really the same type of games so comparing them isn't fair to either game. I don't think they are aiming for the same group of players at all.
The endgame is something I at least havn't seen yet and it is something that is hard to judge until a few months after release. You really have to play the endgame for a while to truly judge if it s fun or not. The soul system is pretty intersting and so are the rifts.
But the game have it's bad things as well. The quests are probably my worst experience with it, they were incredible linear and rather boring & uninspired. Wow, LOTRO and EQ2 all do this a lot better. I also felt that crafting needs a little more work, it did what it was supposed to but nothing more. Some fun there wouldn't hurt.
I would give Rift 4 stars of 5. It is clearly the best MMO releasing in a rather long time but I am not sure if it can handle going against GW2 and TOR. Rift Vs TERA will be interesting, TERA do look a lot better but looks isn't everything...
Endgame will be key, and its the largest unknown, for both Rift and TERA. People will drop the game right away if they hear endgame gets stale quick, conversly if they hear endgame is the best part of the game, and the trip there is fun, you have yourself a nice snowball effect, people will rush out of other games to give it a try ect. I know a lot of people sitting in a certain unmentionable game waiting to hear if its worth trying out once endgame becomes known.
Endgame will make or break Rift, that is if techincal issues dont start popping up or other major issues develop.
I think Rift will be just fine, TERA may have some issues but will also survive on its own. Its seems to have more engaging combat but not as engaging content as Rift. So each will have its target audiance. If I was going to worry my head off about over hype though it would be for GW2. That game has more hype already than either of these and its still in screenshot preview mode with a year to go to be seen by any of us. It may be the first MMO to crash and burn from the hype before it enters the 3 months prior to launch where every other game starts its hype buildup. Seriously though, GW2 hype is going to be the first priapism of the MMO genre, I just hope we have a doctor in the house.
I was only comparing the number of bugs between the two, since DCUO was the most recent MMO to come out.
The two games play style are absolutely different and I wouldn't try comparing the two in those regards.
For me fun & cool beats original. It doesnt have to be original to enjoy it. It's like the difference between a restaurant which you like and are used to the food, and the one who has original food from some exotic part of the world, reads good on the menu but it tastes like crap (FFXIV anyone?).
I like the idea of one cool thing from some game, other cool thing from another game, all of them combined in one game (WoW tried to do the same when it launched). This is great news to me. Add smooth gameplay, polished world, a decent leveling curve - you got a game for me. I hope for:
- cool features, which i have experienced and liked in other games (like public quests in WAR)
- doesnt force me to PvP (bleh Aion)
- controlled PvP on PvE servers (battlegrounds or competitions of some form, WAR scenarios were perfect)
- nice dungeons (rather enjoying fast runs, mobs hit hard, you hit them hard, 30-60min per run - WoW, not 3 hours of mindless tank&spank - Aion)
- gear variety, multiple sources for gear (normal mobs / instancing / pvp points / rift rewards / other)
- non gear-focused endgame (if i want to join an endgame event i can, despite the fact that i have a life and cannot grind 8 hours per day for the "best" gear)
- not a grinder
- ideally, centralised travelling and short (Anarchy Online's grid is a perfect example, spending hours of my life on birds like in WoW is not the approach i like)
- easy to find npc's, quest hubs and things like that
- non-asian style, got really bored at the things that come from that part of the world gaming-wise: anime graphics, terrible XP curve, "enhancing" and "enchanting" gear with .002% chances, annoying crafting / gathering, afk activities which grant you great advantages if you let your PC running over night like auto-fishing etc
Yes i know, the list doesnt ask for something never seen before, thats why i even gave the examples. I like all those features in one game, and actually i think most of the gamers have their own list. It doesnt have to be groundbreakingneverseenbeforeetc, just cool and to do the job well. So far, that's what Rift promises, gonna see if it also delivers.