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Everyone is different I guess.
If I don't have fun the first 15 levels, then I don't see how I would have fun past level 15 either.
I absolutely disagree, the amount of changes some quite drastic that we have seen in between beta's tells me this is not going to be the retail version. The basic game play maybe pretty much the same but I would bet my next years wages that we see alot more solid changes before release.
Not hostile at all, unless you concider laughing my ass off to be hostile, in which case I'm so SORRY!! Off the rails means not doing the themepark style quest rails provided in Rift (and most other games out there). Rift developers have stated time and again that they have spend countless hours providing for content you wont find by following the usual quest hubs. If you never leave the rails of the ride, then you simply will not know about any of it. Comments about zerging show a lack of personal initiative in finding, and completing content that doesn't include 'the masses', if your always following them, then you will always find only the content designed for them. STOP BEING A SHEEPLE! Take the blinders off and open your eyes!
As for the comment about the warfronts, yes I know your one of those people who honestly believes there is no other type of PvP in Rift simply because you haven't experienced it yourself. To which I stated earlier, thats just because you haven't experiencedc it. This of course is not my fault, nor my job to bring you up to speed. I recommend you play in the upcoming BETA event on Tuesday which brings you the opportunity to play in one of the contested zones. Please try your hardest to get a viable character advanced to the mid to upper 20s so you can be a contributor to this PvP (and contributor does not mean follow the zerg - SHEEPLE).
And finally to the statement of Rift being fun and capturing the gaming minds of a majority of the people who have actually played it already in the previous Beta events. There are at least 10+ threads filled with comments from other users on these very forums who have stated that in at least 50+ posts. If you tend not to believe them, please feel free to go to ANY mmo forum on the internet and RESEARCH it for yourself. You will find similar trends all over the place (I have already done so myself, again not my job to do the work for you). If you refuse to believe what so many have ALREADY SAID, then I can not help you or anyone else here who would prefer to make shit up and spew it as thier 'truth'.
Now, to clarify, because I seem to have gotten another one of those fragile forum posters all over me again, I am not targetting any one individual in any of this posting. It is written in a third person narrative with the word 'you' denoting every 'you' who may be reading this post. If your fragile, and feel every word typed in this post is an insult to your personage, well, I have no need for tact and dont really care if your all broken up about it. I never claimed to be a nice guy, just honest and truthful. Either you can take it as it is or you can't, I'm not in the business of polishing it up so your furry hands dont get all dirty.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
We've seen tweaks and engine improvements. We have not seen changes in the way I think they are referring to. Ie they won't be scrapping zones or quest lines. Tweaks to MOB density, spawn rate, damage sure. Engine improvements, ya. Soul unlocking mechanics ok. Rewriting a tree? No.
Rift is a good solid MMO. Its a little stiff, race choices are limiting and the soul system is mind blowingly awesome and meh at the same time. My VG guild is moving to Rift, we're enjoying it, but it is missing something I can't quite put my finger on. Despite being in pretty much every beta since UO, I've never really connected with an MMO during beta. Knowing the toon goes pop, takes the drive away and leaves learning the "system".
I would expect they are holding something back. I'm not sure what though. Blizzard lets beta testers get all the way through end game content and those people still login and play the game.
The difference for me would be that several people I know who haven't gotten into the beta are seriously considering getting the game (some have already pre-ordered). The experience of playing on live would be different that the beta since I would be playing with people I know in real life.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Uhhh if you can play through all the content (and get the whole experience)in a beta, in which lasts for 4 days.. then its really not a game that has lasting power.
Pretty much the standard for any new mmo since WoW to launch a large open beta. I just personally don't understand why they wouldn't want to test their servers on a weekend instead of weekdays.
I would guess the weekdays might have a more concentrated load instead of spread out throughout the day. They may be testing how well it does during peaks.
As much as I like Rift, I don't look forward to the coming betas..Why? Because I want to play, but I don't want to see everything prior to live...I know they only go to level 42 but still..that's a decent chunk of the game.
Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.
as someone who hates grinding raids to get geared up (after which you are then asked to then grind for the next set of instances)...
plus the linear nature of Rift...
it's pretty much all the game.
This all would equal absolutely no reason to buy this game for me at launch, even if i liked it (which I admit I don't much... I find it very boring).
as someone who hates grinding raids to get geared up (after which you are then asked to then grind for the next set of instances)...
plus the linear nature of Rift...
it's pretty much all the game.
This all would equal absolutely no reason to buy this game for me at launch, even if i liked it (which I admit I don't much... I find it very boring).
You knew Rift was a traditional mmo. They usually have endgame raid progression as the main way to progress your character. In rift hardmode dungeons, raids & rifts will be the mechanics that keep people subscribed. If you already knew that you hated that type of gameplay why did you even bother with rift? I'm sure a sandbox would be more to your liking or maybe a game that is more altaholic friendly.Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
I got a vip key. I told trion I would beta there game and will give them feedback on what all I found broken. I have done so. I just got my 5th beta invite for next weeks testing. I will continue to beta test.
However I will not sub for this game, nor will I pre order or anything. I find it dull, boring, and a re-skin of warhammer The soul tree systems is just another way to define what class you are doing. Yes it is somewhat different other than you choose you class as you go. Combat to me is the same as other games, and crafting well yes that is a sad letdown as well.
I'm sorry but after beta is finished I will still be looking for something else to go do, as I find there is nothing special with this game.
You will be dearly missed. I know I for one will be very sad about you not going to play. Is there any way to change your mind?.
You are a very valued member of this forum. It would be very sad to see somebody like you, not playing Rift
I've never played end game in any MMO, nor do I plan to do so. I do think Rift has enough to do to keep me occupied for a few months though. I honestly don't know why I play MMOs as I hate repetition (but I love repeating myself!)
I would like to test more of the game, which I assume the ability to reach higher levels is for, but...gah
Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.
Ah the downfalls of beta testing.
Yes I enjoy beta testing, it is fun to experience the community, and bug hunt, but I do agree that beta testing games ruin my fun with them at release.
Most recently, Fallen Earth and Warhammer, especially Fallen Earth.
I know I play beta like I would a release game. Spend hours playing, having fun, exploring, discovering, learning and honing my skills. This just ruins games for me, and it sucks to have it be that way.
I played Warhammer beta for a year before release, at release I played for a month or 2 then quit. I was bored, nothing was ever new and exciting.
I believe that is one reason people MMO jump so much these days, the newness of a game. Sure beta is fun, the community can be the best around sometimes depending on who gets accepted, but allowing us to play through all the content kinda ruins the luanch experience for me.
So you will say..."Well, don't play betas then", maybe I wont. maybe I will stop. I had the chance to beta DCUO and I didn't, and I bought it at release and I, ME, am having fun with it. Every quest is new, the areas are all new, the play-style is new, TO ME, and that makes it so much more fun. Sure the game might be old and boring here in a couple more weeks, but I still have yet to get to lvl 30 and am in no rush, plus I am hoping SOE comes through with their promised monthly content, but I am not holding my breath.
Needless to say, Beta testing, especially for long periods of time ruins the release experience for me.
I wonder if they would ever consider only letting players test specific levels/areas and thats it.
Beta Key for levels 20-25 only, while others got beta keys for levels 15-20 only, to limit the experience for players and keep the newness alive for the actual game release.
I do fear that Rift is all hyped up and awesome now, but at release, it will be old hat since everyone has experienced most of the content already.
Just my 2 cents, opinions, and experiences.
I am entitled to my opinions, misspellings, and grammatical errors.
lol
IMO, the content on offer if your not a raider is about one months play for the average MMOer.
I honestly think you would have to be super casual to get 3+ out of it.
Exactly what I am going to do. Play the hell of all the beta events and stop once the game goes live. Then I will wait like 6 months and give it 2nd look.
Trion Worlds is proving to be quite the masters of Pre-Launch Hype. Perhaps they got the guy who did AoC.
As a "victim" (for lack of a better word) of this recently ill explain how i think its panning out.
First was the arrogan comparisons by the game company to WoW...we all saw the "Were not in Azeroth anymore" adds here. That brought attention, people who are fans of wow checked out the game for a laugh (how many time now has a game directly called out wow only to fail big time?) while the HUGE amount of people who cannot stand wow came to see what it was all about.
Now that they have everyones attention, its time to hit wow where it hurts....in looking cool and feeling cool playing. This game looks cool, and from the stated systems/mechanics/classes really does look to be one badass of a game.
At this point i thought "stay away untill its out at least a month" as we have all heard before of games promising a lot but delivering little....or possibly in Rifts case, promising AND delivering a lot, however in execution it all feels like the same old game but with better looks.
Now the kicker, VIP beta keys, lots of them, possible enough to call it a free preview weekend (or weekday or whatever) often known as Open Beta. See an open beta is great, curious people can try it out, hardcore fans can prepare to blow by the masses come launch by testing and trying content, feeling for the fastest route to this.
After saying i was just going to avoid the game untill i saw some reviews after at least a month, me like many, couldnt resist seeing a fresh post with "only 25 beta key uses left" I snagged on, i registerd it, and now im waiting to do what i told myself i wasnt going to do, play the game before it was launched at least a month. Also obtaining a beta invite key makes you feel special, like you got lucky and won something. However we have no way of knowing exactly how many of these keys are out there, just that they have them and they have limited use (like 25 a key?).
This greatly increases the odds that i will pre order, it worked for aion, and i regret that bigtime. +1 to Trion Worlds marketing dept.
So as a victim of a great marketing hype i will see all of you during beta, possibly at launch now....
Keep your expectations low and you'll probably enjoy the game. Go into the game looking for faults and you will most definitely find something or many things to hate. It depends on your mindset and what you're personally looking for when playing.
You read me wrong. I dont go into a game expecting to hate it, i dont play games like that.
See i have magical abilities, where as long as the game is functioning, i am able to enjoy it for what it is. Now a terrible game i wont enjoy very long, where a great game ill enjoy it for a while, and be able to come back to it later on and get some more entertainment out of it.
The reason i didnt enjoy Aion, and regretted it, was that fortress seiges were unplayable. I dont like having a major function of the game result in me getting memory leaks every 5min, having insane rubberbanding latency (land on a shard, drop my wings, run to my goup, get shot back to before i landed, only my wings are down and im dead), or having lag during it be so intense that i couldnt even keep up with my raid group, let alone pvp, let alone fight the seige boss.
For Rift, it looks cool, and sounds cool, however i had planned on waiting untill reviews after launch came back before trying it, as during the Aion betas, none of the issues that caused me to leave were apparent, resulting in a preorder.
But as i said, i got sucked in when i saw a fresh post with a limited use beta key with uses still left on it.
I just have to follow though and not preorder, which is something thats hard to do when your in the beta playing.
I believe they are now getting serious about testing server needs.
The previous 4 beta sessions have been limited to those that either were invited or those that purchased the game.
This 5th beta will open up the floodgates with a huge number of Rift fans and friends of fans that are all interested in the game. This will push the servers alot more.
So this is a real server test and gives new players a chance to really test the game out and see how thier computer works with the game and how the game feels to individual player interest.
It's really an exciting time in the Beta and I am finally going to start my download and be giving out beta access to many close friends so they can participate as well. Out of the 25 spots I was given I will use up at least 8 of them or more. I am sure there are many people that are in my shoes that want to try out the game as well.
This beta time will help me decide on pc upgrade needs as well since the release is comming in about a month.
Due to this multi-VIP invite I think we will see server needs grow alot. I hope they are prepaired for the amount of people interested. It would be a shame to see server que and sluggish server performance due to having too many people per server.
I guess we will find out this week.
Kaocan saying that to enjoy the game you have to not be a sheeple is too hilarious. Priceless!
First thing you've posted on the rift forum that i agree with.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
the fictional marketing plan of trion worlds for rift:
- during february trion will do two more 'close beta event' which will take every player close to the level cap and the endgame content
- with the last 'close beta event' trion announce that all pre-orders will keep their characters from the 'close beta events'
ummm we had 100+ player queues in beta 4.
In my opinion Trion is inviting wayyyyyy too many people to this thing.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP