Guardian is DEFINITELY Monk throwback, for one, all the monk skills were blue and involved ankhs and shields. Also since monk was such a popular class (they werent the ONLY healers) and they didnt want to stick to the "Trinity" of Healer - Tank - Dps, the guardian would make sense as a "similar profession with a new name". Just saying. So that leaves a new profession and an old one! Also, for all the mesmer love, I'd have to say i agree, i did not PVP much in GW however, the mesmer appealed to me as a class NO other game had, it seems like every other game out there has the Warrior and the Necro and the Ranger, but a class like the mesmer? Haven't seen one yet.
Okay i'll admit i'm not following the game, so this is purely a question based on no facts. So here it goes.
did they say somewhere that the mesmer would be one of the classes or is this wishful/experienced guessing?
Granted it sounds like Mesmer was one of the classes in the original GW, but i'm not sure that is enough for such certainty. Unless like i said i missed somewhere that they said Mesmer would be one of them, just not when.
The amount of evidence available to suggest the Mesmer is in fact in the game and will be playable is staggering.
We've actually got more evidence the Mesmer will be in than any class to date so far, announced and unannounced.
Even though Anet has not come out and said Mesmer will be in, the community as a whole agrees that it will be a playable class as 100% fact due to the overwhemling amount of evidence.
Not my style of gameplay, but the King enjoys having a semi-magical plate wearing class around to mock and jeer and then hide behind when the big meanies are aggroed.
Okay i'll admit i'm not following the game, so this is purely a question based on no facts. So here it goes.
did they say somewhere that the mesmer would be one of the classes or is this wishful/experienced guessing?
Granted it sounds like Mesmer was one of the classes in the original GW, but i'm not sure that is enough for such certainty. Unless like i said i missed somewhere that they said Mesmer would be one of them, just not when.
The amount of evidence available to suggest the Mesmer is in fact in the game and will be playable is staggering.
We've actually got more evidence the Mesmer will be in than any class to date so far, announced and unannounced.
Even though Anet has not come out and said Mesmer will be in, the community as a whole agrees that it will be a playable class as 100% fact due to the overwhemling amount of evidence.
There is actually more evidence to support an assassin-esque character than a mesmer. It was confirmed by Anet that each of the 5 members of Destiny's Edge is a playable profession and they have all been confirmed except for Caithe who appears to be some sort of assassin type profession according to EoD.
i think Mr G. said it best little some thing new and some thing old when he made the star wars movies so i have no wories on this company still haven make my minde yet catser or a ranger : )
Okay i'll admit i'm not following the game, so this is purely a question based on no facts. So here it goes.
did they say somewhere that the mesmer would be one of the classes or is this wishful/experienced guessing?
Granted it sounds like Mesmer was one of the classes in the original GW, but i'm not sure that is enough for such certainty. Unless like i said i missed somewhere that they said Mesmer would be one of them, just not when.
The amount of evidence available to suggest the Mesmer is in fact in the game and will be playable is staggering.
We've actually got more evidence the Mesmer will be in than any class to date so far, announced and unannounced.
Even though Anet has not come out and said Mesmer will be in, the community as a whole agrees that it will be a playable class as 100% fact due to the overwhemling amount of evidence.
There is actually more evidence to support an assassin-esque character than a mesmer. It was confirmed by Anet that each of the 5 members of Destiny's Edge is a playable profession and they have all been confirmed except for Caithe who appears to be some sort of assassin type profession according to EoD.
If I'm not mistaken the actual name Mesmer showed up in the novel more than once. I think it was Queen Jennah? And someone else. I didn't actually read the book but the evidence is there.
And I haven't actually heard the naming of an assassin type in the books. Just that caithe wields daggers and uses them like an assassin would.
While the amount of evidence for both Mesmer and Assassin is there. It's really quite even. But I'd say there's slightly more for the Mesmer than the Assassin. Which is still a helluva lot of evidence.
It's a 100% certainty though that both classes will be in the game. Though I suspect the Assassin will be one of the two returning professions with a different name. And the Mesmer will be the other returning but with the same name and signifcantly changed gameplay mechanics.
Don't fret, the Mesmer will undoubtedly be in this game. It really is very unique to not only Guild Wars but classes in general. It just played so well in GW that it became an insanely popular class. I can't wait to see some of the abilities they have planned but I will be patient, I'm excited about the Guardian reveal, they seem very different from a lot of other "tank" or "support" classes out there, very exciting!
Interested with the possibilities of this one. Knowing Arena Net I think the class will avoid becoming the typical fantasy cleric, but that is my fear.
Interested with the possibilities of this one. Knowing Arena Net I think the class will avoid becoming the typical fantasy cleric, but that is my fear.
It won't. For it to be the typical cleric it would have to have a ton of healing skills that require targeting allies which the devs have stated you can't do.
Interested with the possibilities of this one. Knowing Arena Net I think the class will avoid becoming the typical fantasy cleric, but that is my fear.
There is no ally targeting so that will eliminate some of that fear I think.
Edit: Looks like poster above me said that already.
I was quite suprised by the class myself. Altho i dont like The way it seems to handle monsters and all, Its makes for a great Support Unit , I know my friend wasnt sure about GW2 till he saw the Guardian Yesterday... To each is own ! Charr Warrior In the Crib here lol. Just need that Silly Game to come out !
I don't understand why people are afraid of this class being a typical healer, when, it doesn't heal. I mean, every class has a few healing skills, and it's no different for the guardian.
If you understand mechanics of the first GW, you would see that the monks healing was given to the elementalist, and the protection was given to the guardian.
There isn't a single emphasis on healing.... yet. We have gotten lots and lots of protection and wards, but not a single healing, other than the minor things.
I don't understand why people are afraid of this class being a typical healer, when, it doesn't heal. I mean, every class has a few healing skills, and it's no different for the guardian.
If you understand mechanics of the first GW, you would see that the monks healing was given to the elementalist, and the protection was given to the guardian.
There isn't a single emphasis on healing.... yet. We have gotten lots and lots of protection and wards, but not a single healing, other than the minor things.
A lot of people think of a WoW's Paladin when they first glance as this profession, that's why. If they dig deeper they'll see it's not the case.
It's a wammo with some rit weapon spells is how I view the profession at first glance.
I'm not that surprised the class reveal was in fact guardian. It follows the "reveal order" as in elementalist (scholar) - warrior (soldier) - ranger (adventurer) - necromancer (scholar) - guardian (soldier) - and next one is most likely the second adventurer class (which my guess is is the rogue one), and then after that the final scholar (which is likely to be mesmer), leaving the last adventuring class as... well.. the last one.
What I found interesting from one of the other forums is that people made statements like "I'm sure guardians are forced to support role by teams". This puzzles me because it's said like it's a bad thing? I mean they are *guardians*. Maybe they are thinking a role where you stand behind others and watch health bars? So far not a single power in their arsenal has required them to target a single team mate. As far as I can see they activate AoE and team wide buffs either through attacks or by "relinquishing" (clicking) their virtues.
If support role in teams means "actively defending your teammates through attacks and positioning" then I'm fine with being "forced" to support role. This coupled with the simple fact that you are not dead when you are down means guardian's don't even need to keep an eye on health bars of their allies. Someone goes down? Time to hit protections so they can revive (and use powerful downed skills)!
Curiously I didn't see same concerns with elementalist. I mean with above mentioned logic people should be concerned their elementalists are forced to water alunemenet and healing role. Then there's also the simple thing that on open world you are not forced to team. You can cooperate with other players *without* teams as you are not competing for rewards (GW2 rewards all players who join the combat instead of just one of them).
Curiously I didn't see same concerns with elementalist. I mean with above mentioned logic people should be concerned their elementalists are forced to water alunemenet and healing role.
Oh don't worry, people are worried about that as well =P
mesmer is a staple of guild wars, it will be in gw2, anet is not dumb. Also the whole craze over mesmers is because alot of people loved mesmers, if not as a main then as a secondary. Also its about as uniqe of a class as the original gw is
My forcast for class release, Assassin type class (it wont be an assassin, those slots are already taken. It will be something similar thoe) Then mesmer, then the final adventure class. i doubt they will release 2 adventure classes in a row, expecialy since there are 2 adventure classes not revield. would make sence.
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Guardian is DEFINITELY Monk throwback, for one, all the monk skills were blue and involved ankhs and shields. Also since monk was such a popular class (they werent the ONLY healers) and they didnt want to stick to the "Trinity" of Healer - Tank - Dps, the guardian would make sense as a "similar profession with a new name". Just saying. So that leaves a new profession and an old one!
Also, for all the mesmer love, I'd have to say i agree, i did not PVP much in GW however, the mesmer appealed to me as a class NO other game had, it seems like every other game out there has the Warrior and the Necro and the Ranger, but a class like the mesmer? Haven't seen one yet.
The amount of evidence available to suggest the Mesmer is in fact in the game and will be playable is staggering.
We've actually got more evidence the Mesmer will be in than any class to date so far, announced and unannounced.
Even though Anet has not come out and said Mesmer will be in, the community as a whole agrees that it will be a playable class as 100% fact due to the overwhemling amount of evidence.
Interesting.
Not my style of gameplay, but the King enjoys having a semi-magical plate wearing class around to mock and jeer and then hide behind when the big meanies are aggroed.
Good article, almost better than the ArenaNet prof write-up. The Guardian looks like a real team-player.
http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014633/Classic-Game-Postmortem
There is actually more evidence to support an assassin-esque character than a mesmer. It was confirmed by Anet that each of the 5 members of Destiny's Edge is a playable profession and they have all been confirmed except for Caithe who appears to be some sort of assassin type profession according to EoD.
i think Mr G. said it best little some thing new and some thing old when he made the star wars movies so i have no wories on this company still haven make my minde yet catser or a ranger : )
I can't wait to kill you all with my Wall of Deflection skill! Ranged fighters beware ;p
If I'm not mistaken the actual name Mesmer showed up in the novel more than once. I think it was Queen Jennah? And someone else. I didn't actually read the book but the evidence is there.
And I haven't actually heard the naming of an assassin type in the books. Just that caithe wields daggers and uses them like an assassin would.
While the amount of evidence for both Mesmer and Assassin is there. It's really quite even. But I'd say there's slightly more for the Mesmer than the Assassin. Which is still a helluva lot of evidence.
It's a 100% certainty though that both classes will be in the game. Though I suspect the Assassin will be one of the two returning professions with a different name. And the Mesmer will be the other returning but with the same name and signifcantly changed gameplay mechanics.
Don't fret, the Mesmer will undoubtedly be in this game. It really is very unique to not only Guild Wars but classes in general. It just played so well in GW that it became an insanely popular class. I can't wait to see some of the abilities they have planned but I will be patient, I'm excited about the Guardian reveal, they seem very different from a lot of other "tank" or "support" classes out there, very exciting!
Interested with the possibilities of this one. Knowing Arena Net I think the class will avoid becoming the typical fantasy cleric, but that is my fear.
It won't. For it to be the typical cleric it would have to have a ton of healing skills that require targeting allies which the devs have stated you can't do.
There is no ally targeting so that will eliminate some of that fear I think.
Edit: Looks like poster above me said that already.
I was quite suprised by the class myself. Altho i dont like The way it seems to handle monsters and all, Its makes for a great Support Unit , I know my friend wasnt sure about GW2 till he saw the Guardian Yesterday... To each is own ! Charr Warrior In the Crib here lol. Just need that Silly Game to come out !
I don't understand why people are afraid of this class being a typical healer, when, it doesn't heal. I mean, every class has a few healing skills, and it's no different for the guardian.
If you understand mechanics of the first GW, you would see that the monks healing was given to the elementalist, and the protection was given to the guardian.
There isn't a single emphasis on healing.... yet. We have gotten lots and lots of protection and wards, but not a single healing, other than the minor things.
A lot of people think of a WoW's Paladin when they first glance as this profession, that's why. If they dig deeper they'll see it's not the case.
It's a wammo with some rit weapon spells is how I view the profession at first glance.
I'm not that surprised the class reveal was in fact guardian. It follows the "reveal order" as in elementalist (scholar) - warrior (soldier) - ranger (adventurer) - necromancer (scholar) - guardian (soldier) - and next one is most likely the second adventurer class (which my guess is is the rogue one), and then after that the final scholar (which is likely to be mesmer), leaving the last adventuring class as... well.. the last one.
What I found interesting from one of the other forums is that people made statements like "I'm sure guardians are forced to support role by teams". This puzzles me because it's said like it's a bad thing? I mean they are *guardians*. Maybe they are thinking a role where you stand behind others and watch health bars? So far not a single power in their arsenal has required them to target a single team mate. As far as I can see they activate AoE and team wide buffs either through attacks or by "relinquishing" (clicking) their virtues.
If support role in teams means "actively defending your teammates through attacks and positioning" then I'm fine with being "forced" to support role. This coupled with the simple fact that you are not dead when you are down means guardian's don't even need to keep an eye on health bars of their allies. Someone goes down? Time to hit protections so they can revive (and use powerful downed skills)!
Curiously I didn't see same concerns with elementalist. I mean with above mentioned logic people should be concerned their elementalists are forced to water alunemenet and healing role. Then there's also the simple thing that on open world you are not forced to team. You can cooperate with other players *without* teams as you are not competing for rewards (GW2 rewards all players who join the combat instead of just one of them).
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Oh don't worry, people are worried about that as well =P
mesmer is a staple of guild wars, it will be in gw2, anet is not dumb. Also the whole craze over mesmers is because alot of people loved mesmers, if not as a main then as a secondary. Also its about as uniqe of a class as the original gw is
My forcast for class release, Assassin type class (it wont be an assassin, those slots are already taken. It will be something similar thoe) Then mesmer, then the final adventure class. i doubt they will release 2 adventure classes in a row, expecialy since there are 2 adventure classes not revield. would make sence.