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Anyone think there should be greater penalty of pk's?

GintohGintoh Member UncommonPosts: 329

B/c right now anyone can be a PK, so it's not like you have to chose to be pk or not pk, b/c you can just gank people every 10 minutes or so with no repercussion.  I mean it sort of takes immersion out when everyone is ganking each other, there's no real criminals b/c everyone can be one with little penalty. Not that i'm a carebare, but i'm just saying. 

Also why can people kill eachother on Exodus island? It isn't realistic why would Continoma allow new clones to butcher each other wouldn't they have guards there to prevent that from happening?

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  • drakes821drakes821 Member UncommonPosts: 535

    Originally posted by Gintoh

    B/c right now anyone can be a PK, so it's not like you have to chose to be pk or not pk, b/c you can just gank people every 10 minutes or so with no repercussion.  I mean it sort of takes immersion out when everyone is ganking each other, there's no real criminals b/c everyone can be one with little penalty. Not that i'm a carebare, but i'm just saying. 

    Also why can people kill eachother on Exodus island? It isn't realistic why would Continoma allow new clones to butcher each other wouldn't they have guards there to prevent that from happening?

     I think the systems fine.

    This game encourrages PvP alot more than other games like MO or DF because you don't loose as much when you die as long as you have insurance or low lvl armor. As a result you can expect to die alot more and kill alot more.

  • MadimorgaMadimorga Member UncommonPosts: 1,920

    After watching the intro trailer, for some reason I don't expect much in the way of changes that will let me avoid pvp more often.  image

     

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  • potapithikospotapithikos Member Posts: 178

    Originally posted by drakes821

    Originally posted by Gintoh

    B/c right now anyone can be a PK, so it's not like you have to chose to be pk or not pk, b/c you can just gank people every 10 minutes or so with no repercussion.  I mean it sort of takes immersion out when everyone is ganking each other, there's no real criminals b/c everyone can be one with little penalty. Not that i'm a carebare, but i'm just saying. 

    Also why can people kill eachother on Exodus island? It isn't realistic why would Continoma allow new clones to butcher each other wouldn't they have guards there to prevent that from happening?

     I think the systems fine.

    This game encourrages PvP alot more than other games like MO or DF because you don't loose as much when you die as long as you have insurance or low lvl armor. As a result you can expect to die alot more and kill alot more.

     Encourages PvP by making it less meaningfull....not a very bright concept is it now?

  • GintohGintoh Member UncommonPosts: 329

    I'm just saying if everyone is a crim it totally takes the fun and adventure of being a crim or anti-crim.

  • DoxshundDoxshund Member Posts: 14

    It's not really pk'ing

    if they wait out the 10 min timer.

    That allows you to kill someone that is being an asshole once in a while.

    Who is going to kill someone, wait 10 min and kill someone else? boring

    The mechanic works decently.

     

    oh, and I heard you can fight back

    -Doxshund

  • wallet113wallet113 Member Posts: 231

    Originally posted by Doxshund

    It's not really pk'ing

    if they wait out the 10 min timer.

    That allows you to kill someone that is being an asshole once in a while.

    Who is going to kill someone, wait 10 min and kill someone else? boring

    The mechanic works decently.

     

    oh, and I heard you can fight back

    in Ultima Online , only way to get back to "blue" status a PKer had abstain from killing for a while. Red players (PKs) couldn't enter towns with guards or they would be cut down (auto death). I had to be online with my toon for around 12 hours  to from red to blue.

  • drakes821drakes821 Member UncommonPosts: 535

    Originally posted by potapithikos

    Originally posted by drakes821

    Originally posted by Gintoh

    B/c right now anyone can be a PK, so it's not like you have to chose to be pk or not pk, b/c you can just gank people every 10 minutes or so with no repercussion.  I mean it sort of takes immersion out when everyone is ganking each other, there's no real criminals b/c everyone can be one with little penalty. Not that i'm a carebare, but i'm just saying. 

    Also why can people kill eachother on Exodus island? It isn't realistic why would Continoma allow new clones to butcher each other wouldn't they have guards there to prevent that from happening?

     I think the systems fine.

    This game encourrages PvP alot more than other games like MO or DF because you don't loose as much when you die as long as you have insurance or low lvl armor. As a result you can expect to die alot more and kill alot more.

     Encourages PvP by making it less meaningfull....not a very bright concept is it now?

     Its still plenty meaningfull, its just that in this game if you die you won't have to spend an hour getting gear again. PvP is still very vital to control territory and to protect all the mats you gather.

  • EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827

    I love this kind of topics they start playing a pk game and come to forums whine about it hahaha.

    Play pve if you cant take it:)

    Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
    In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.

  • GintohGintoh Member UncommonPosts: 329

    Well, sandbox /= pk, just that it's a large component in the game. Im saying the game should have pk's in it, as it fits the setting and is realistic, however i'm saying it takes alot of the realism and roleplay value out of criminals if murder is no big deal, and everyone is a criminal.

  • YalexyYalexy Member UncommonPosts: 1,058


    Originally posted by Evasia
    I love this kind of topics they start playing a pk game and come to forums whine about it hahaha.
    Play pve if you cant take it:)

    In Earthrise there's no so called safe-zones. No police-men attacking you but in the few towns themselves aswell, so you can place a T2-char in close proximity to the starter-area, log in, gank a few or some dozen n00bs and log off.
    Additionally you can totally circumvent any drawbacks (not being able to enter towns for example) by simply logging in one of your other four alts to support your PK-character.

    Earthrise is far away from having any consequences for your behaviour and this is simply just the wrong approach.

    Look at EvE to see how it's done better and then remove alts to have it perfectly fine.

  • GintohGintoh Member UncommonPosts: 329

    I mean my main concern isn't even newb ganking. Just the unrealistic-ness of it. Wouldn't there be roaming police or some type of law and order? People aren't just aloud to run around shooting eachother in the streets. How it is now it's like if I walked down the street and gunned down a dozen people and the government/ police or whatever just said "ok just don't do that again." I understand it's PA world but it's still rather silly.

  • potapithikospotapithikos Member Posts: 178

    Originally posted by drakes821

     Its still plenty meaningfull, its just that in this game if you die you won't have to spend an hour getting gear again. PvP is still very vital to control territory and to protect all the mats you gather.

    No item loss means less demand which in turn means less effective player economy and that means less meaningfull crafting.

     

    Also at this time territory control and mines are not even ingame....

     

    Not item Loss & Not really that expensive insurance mean less of a loss to the player that means he risks little in PvP. Low risk in PvP makes for boring PvP cause people don't really mind that much wether they lose or not so they don't always strive to be better.

     

    Where you see  the glass half full... i see it half empty.

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