So he's complaining that he(?) has to pay CAN via Euro conversion? And is that even true? Seems like he should be able to convert to USD just as easily.
Perhaps hes one of those three headed / half man half beast, french canadians, and wishes to play with his bretheren across the pond on the EU client?
The most important thing I've learned from this thread is that with conversion rates, Europeans pay more than people from the US, and Canadians pay even more.
The life lesson we should all be taking home from this?
The most important thing I've learned from this thread is that with conversion rates, Europeans pay more than people from the US, and Canadians pay even more.
The life lesson we should all be taking home from this?
Live in the US, MMORPGs are cheaper.
They're the same price, +/- a few pennies depending on the phases of the moon. Exchange rates are pretty much at par. But if our government manages to pass usage based billing legislation, the bandwidth costs will make playing MMOs prohibitvely expensive for many Canuck enthusiasts. There's the reason to live in the US
Well when our central planner in america print more money, everyone else follows suit to remain near parity ( except EU and a few other "rogue" currencies)
Since most currencies are tied to the dollar legally, look no further than the unelected american central planners at our wonderful Federal Reserve to see where your money is headed.
Perhaps hes one of those three headed / half man half beast, french canadians, and wishes to play with his bretheren across the pond on the EU client?
Ugh. Being a French Canadian myself I've never heard of such amongst my friends. Usually they end up with guilds with 'Quebec' or 'Lys' in the name, or they do like me and play with english speakers.
However, his profile says he's from Toronto, where they speak english. Maybe he wants to play with English players in England?
The most important thing I've learned from this thread is that with conversion rates, Europeans pay more than people from the US, and Canadians pay even more.
The life lesson we should all be taking home from this?
Live in the US, MMORPGs are cheaper.
They're the same price, +/- a few pennies depending on the phases of the moon. Exchange rates are pretty much at par. But if our government manages to pass usage based billing legislation, the bandwidth costs will make playing MMOs prohibitvely expensive for many Canuck enthusiasts. There's the reason to live in the US
Well, he was saying it costs 20 Canadian dollars to play. I'm not sure why anybody would pay that way, if it's true.
Does make more sense just to use US dollars to pay, even if you're in Canada, since the exchange rate is basically equivalent.
... but what kind of patriot uses FOREIGN money, when they can gladly pay extra with genuine local money? <
Ugh. Being a French Canadian myself I've never heard of such amongst my friends. Usually they end up with guilds with 'Quebec' or 'Lys' in the name, or they do like me and play with english speakers.
However, his profile says he's from Toronto, where they speak english. Maybe he wants to play with English players in England?
Every time I've seen a French Canadian and somebody from France talk, it seemed to involve them arguing over which one of them was the one that was talking funny.
The most important thing I've learned from this thread is that with conversion rates, Europeans pay more than people from the US, and Canadians pay even more.
The life lesson we should all be taking home from this?
Live in the US, MMORPGs are cheaper.
They're the same price, +/- a few pennies depending on the phases of the moon. Exchange rates are pretty much at par. But if our government manages to pass usage based billing legislation, the bandwidth costs will make playing MMOs prohibitvely expensive for many Canuck enthusiasts. There's the reason to live in the US
Well, he was saying it costs 20 Canadian dollars to play. I'm not sure why anybody would pay that way, if it's true.
Does make more sense just to use US dollars to pay, even if you're in Canada, since the exchange rate is basically equivalent.
... but what kind of patriot uses FOREIGN money, when they can gladly pay extra with genuine local money? <
I think he was simply mistaken. I don't know why he might think that he would need to convert to the Euro for paying for the game, unless he was currently living in Europe. If he's in Canada, you pay in Canadian dollars and the conversion takes place when the funds are transferred by the bank. The only way you know that an exchange rate has been applied is when you get your credit card or bank statement. Works pretty much the same way with PayPal.
To pay in Euros, he would have to go well out of his way.
Well, by now people pointed out already that you're doing it wrong.
You should be paying in USD instead of Euros, the Euro price accounts VAC and stuff like that AFAIK, which means you're paying for taxes that don't exist in your country because you chose the wrong currency, no wonder you're paying more than the average monthly fee.
According to Google, 14.99 U.S. dollars = 14.8100578 Canadian dollars. You're so doing it wrong by paying in Euros.
Has anyone even thought to think about him adding the HST/GST in canada on the price, there is an increase of 12% right there on the statement, depending on what banking intitution in canada he uses there are also extra fees ontop. ie: monthly sub fee + taxes + fees some banks charge to convert funds or for services rendered outside the country. Depending on what Credit card company there he is using, he could also be charge anywhere from $1.00+ taxes to $1.50+taxes on their statement for online purchases just becaue they can get away with it.
Visa and Mastercard in canada are under the magnifying glass atm for such fees, and have stated publically if the canadian government moves to abolish those fees, that they will make sure that the canadian citizens will pay for it personally with higher fees they deam needed to recoupe the cost.
Canada also has the shittiest fees in dealing with online payments gouging them out the ass, just because they are paying for a service outside the country.
And to top it all off, many internet plans have been capped, even when the government overturned the decision, companies still stand beside the usage cap on bandwidth. Most plans have been cut from 250gig limit, to 25gig for the low price of $40.00+taxes or higher. (no @#%%#$ you, look it up.), and are charging bewteen $1.50+ taxes per gig to some a max of $3.00+ taxes per gig if they go over.
Yes, canada is that much of a backwards country.
Someoen mentioned for people to learn monetary value, well guess what, there is more to paying for a service then just the fee the company collects. At least follow what you preach and learn.
A game is just that... a game, not an emotional crutch.
Has anyone even thought to think about him adding the HST/GST in canada on the price, there is an increase of 12% right there on the statement, depending on what banking intitution in canada he uses there are also extra fees ontop. ie: monthly sub fee + taxes + fees some banks charge to convert funds or for services rendered outside the country. Depending on what Credit card company there he is using, he could also be charge anywhere from $1.00+ taxes to $1.50+taxes on their statement for online purchases just becaue they can get away with it.
Visa and Mastercard in canada are under the magnifying glass atm for such fees, and have stated publically if the canadian government moves to abolish those fees, that they will make sure that the canadian citizens will pay for it personally with higher fees they deam needed to recoupe the cost.
Canada also has the shittiest fees in dealing with online payments gouging them out the ass, just because they are paying for a service outside the country.
And to top it all off, many internet plans have been capped, even when the government overturned the decision, companies still stand beside the usage cap on bandwidth. Most plans have been cut from 250gig limit, to 25gig for the low price of $40.00+taxes or higher. (no @#%%#$ you, look it up.), and are charging bewteen $1.50+ taxes per gig to some a max of $3.00+ taxes per gig if they go over.
Yes, canada is that much of a backwards country.
Someoen mentioned for people to learn monetary value, well guess what, there is more to paying for a service then just the fee the company collects. At least follow what you preach and learn.
I don't know what you are talking about with extra fees, when I pay with a Sub with either my mastercard or american express, All i have ever paid is the fee ( ie: $14.95 ) and the exchange rate no HST/GST, no extra fees ever for online game subs.
Has anyone even thought to think about him adding the HST/GST in canada on the price, there is an increase of 12% right there on the statement, depending on what banking intitution in canada he uses there are also extra fees ontop. ie: monthly sub fee + taxes + fees some banks charge to convert funds or for services rendered outside the country. Depending on what Credit card company there he is using, he could also be charge anywhere from $1.00+ taxes to $1.50+taxes on their statement for online purchases just becaue they can get away with it.
Visa and Mastercard in canada are under the magnifying glass atm for such fees, and have stated publically if the canadian government moves to abolish those fees, that they will make sure that the canadian citizens will pay for it personally with higher fees they deam needed to recoupe the cost.
Canada also has the shittiest fees in dealing with online payments gouging them out the ass, just because they are paying for a service outside the country.
And to top it all off, many internet plans have been capped, even when the government overturned the decision, companies still stand beside the usage cap on bandwidth. Most plans have been cut from 250gig limit, to 25gig for the low price of $40.00+taxes or higher. (no @#%%#$ you, look it up.), and are charging bewteen $1.50+ taxes per gig to some a max of $3.00+ taxes per gig if they go over.
Yes, canada is that much of a backwards country.
Someoen mentioned for people to learn monetary value, well guess what, there is more to paying for a service then just the fee the company collects. At least follow what you preach and learn.
Pretty much all false except the bandwidth thing but its blown out of proportion. Plans are not capped. What has changed, or will, is that plans will have caps and more bandwidth means bigger plan. Wow, paying for usage thats such an odd idea, why don't other utilities do that... oh wait they do. Its more about people crying that they won't be able to leech off a third party supplier for peanuts while customers with the parent company have been capped for years. In my case its Rogers, its 95GB for $50/mnth. You want to bitch, go bitch about cable rates. MMOs are .50 a day, internet is pennies an hour. Just be glad you weren't around in the UO days when we paid massive money for ISDN lines and service and hardware to play UO =P Think it was running me ~200-300 a month =O And it was awesome! Rant off.
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Um.
USD and CAD have been close to parity for years. And it looks like it's going to stay that way for a while, if CAD doesn't go overboard yet again. ;-)
See Yahoo Currency Charts for the last 5 years.
Nah...
Probably 4 heads.
14.99 USD
=
14.7919 CAD
14.99 EUR
=
20.0332 CAD
cheaper to play in Canada this week
"All expectation leads to suffering" Buhhda
They're the same price, +/- a few pennies depending on the phases of the moon. Exchange rates are pretty much at par. But if our government manages to pass usage based billing legislation, the bandwidth costs will make playing MMOs prohibitvely expensive for many Canuck enthusiasts. There's the reason to live in the US
Well when our central planner in america print more money, everyone else follows suit to remain near parity ( except EU and a few other "rogue" currencies)
Since most currencies are tied to the dollar legally, look no further than the unelected american central planners at our wonderful Federal Reserve to see where your money is headed.
Ugh. Being a French Canadian myself I've never heard of such amongst my friends. Usually they end up with guilds with 'Quebec' or 'Lys' in the name, or they do like me and play with english speakers.
However, his profile says he's from Toronto, where they speak english. Maybe he wants to play with English players in England?
Well, he was saying it costs 20 Canadian dollars to play. I'm not sure why anybody would pay that way, if it's true.
Does make more sense just to use US dollars to pay, even if you're in Canada, since the exchange rate is basically equivalent.
... but what kind of patriot uses FOREIGN money, when they can gladly pay extra with genuine local money?
<
Every time I've seen a French Canadian and somebody from France talk, it seemed to involve them arguing over which one of them was the one that was talking funny.
I think he was simply mistaken. I don't know why he might think that he would need to convert to the Euro for paying for the game, unless he was currently living in Europe. If he's in Canada, you pay in Canadian dollars and the conversion takes place when the funds are transferred by the bank. The only way you know that an exchange rate has been applied is when you get your credit card or bank statement. Works pretty much the same way with PayPal.
To pay in Euros, he would have to go well out of his way.
Well, by now people pointed out already that you're doing it wrong.
You should be paying in USD instead of Euros, the Euro price accounts VAC and stuff like that AFAIK, which means you're paying for taxes that don't exist in your country because you chose the wrong currency, no wonder you're paying more than the average monthly fee.
According to Google, 14.99 U.S. dollars = 14.8100578 Canadian dollars. You're so doing it wrong by paying in Euros.
if u live in canada and u want to play with euro player , u can. there wont be any IP BLOCK or region lock
European and North American gamers can play together. and u still gonna pay15$ by month
http://massively.joystiq.com/2010/12/01/trion-answers-ubisoft-related-questions-about-rift/
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Has anyone even thought to think about him adding the HST/GST in canada on the price, there is an increase of 12% right there on the statement, depending on what banking intitution in canada he uses there are also extra fees ontop. ie: monthly sub fee + taxes + fees some banks charge to convert funds or for services rendered outside the country. Depending on what Credit card company there he is using, he could also be charge anywhere from $1.00+ taxes to $1.50+taxes on their statement for online purchases just becaue they can get away with it.
Visa and Mastercard in canada are under the magnifying glass atm for such fees, and have stated publically if the canadian government moves to abolish those fees, that they will make sure that the canadian citizens will pay for it personally with higher fees they deam needed to recoupe the cost.
Canada also has the shittiest fees in dealing with online payments gouging them out the ass, just because they are paying for a service outside the country.
And to top it all off, many internet plans have been capped, even when the government overturned the decision, companies still stand beside the usage cap on bandwidth. Most plans have been cut from 250gig limit, to 25gig for the low price of $40.00+taxes or higher. (no @#%%#$ you, look it up.), and are charging bewteen $1.50+ taxes per gig to some a max of $3.00+ taxes per gig if they go over.
Yes, canada is that much of a backwards country.
Someoen mentioned for people to learn monetary value, well guess what, there is more to paying for a service then just the fee the company collects. At least follow what you preach and learn.
A game is just that... a game, not an emotional crutch.
Ima prolly end up going the 3month route myself.. I see myself playing Rift for atleast that long without getting bored.
Currently Playing:
Rift + Starcraft II + Gears Of War 3 Beta
Even if you factor in all the fees and tax why is he paying in Euro ? That does not make any sense at all.
Are you trolling, or do you just don't understand that as a Canadian you are charged the US prices?
"All expectation leads to suffering" Buhhda
Pretty much all false except the bandwidth thing but its blown out of proportion. Plans are not capped. What has changed, or will, is that plans will have caps and more bandwidth means bigger plan. Wow, paying for usage thats such an odd idea, why don't other utilities do that... oh wait they do. Its more about people crying that they won't be able to leech off a third party supplier for peanuts while customers with the parent company have been capped for years. In my case its Rogers, its 95GB for $50/mnth. You want to bitch, go bitch about cable rates. MMOs are .50 a day, internet is pennies an hour. Just be glad you weren't around in the UO days when we paid massive money for ISDN lines and service and hardware to play UO =P Think it was running me ~200-300 a month =O And it was awesome! Rant off.