I'm looking forward to Horizon's and Middle Earth Online. The Horizons screenshots look amazing and I cant wait to rp as a dragon. Middle Earth Online looks to be cool also I hope I'll be able to interact with some of the major characters.
Horizons and City of Heroes for sure. Been looking at Horizons for over a year or so now. I cant wait for that and to dump EQ. As for City of Heroes I have played Marvel Super Heroes tabletop for 10 years and have a stack of characters I want to hook up in that game. Looks awesome.
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EQ2 looks interesting, extreme graphics, would probably murder every computer. Although if its the same-o monster bashing wont even try playing it.
Horizons is a dissapointment, the original idea was awesome, the new idea is just a pathetic replacement. Not to mention its weapons are freakin gay looking.
WoW.......Was looking forward to it till they said 10% pvp, and no PvP servers. I expected something like that to happen to a game like everquest 2, but its warcraft, its about freakin conflict and chaos. The first death knight, cant remember his name, he was a human prince, killed his own father! Orcs and humans have been warring for decades, etc, etc.
Dungeons & Dragons, interesting concept, i've been hoping for something like this to happen, always wanted a MMRPG like Baldurs Gate II in 3d. The freedom, but consequences in baldurs gate II were great. Thats what would really make this game, have the freedom to be a hero, warlord, villian, criminal. Or maybe even command a keep and an army.
Lineage II seems to be interestingly coming along. Probably after SWG i'll be trying that out.
Dragon empires has an interesting concept, except it seems to be quite aways off.
As for middle earth online....my oh my....what a disgraceful ruin. For one, you shouldnt be trying to make a game that is in a time period placed in stone (tolkien strongly described that time period) not to mention i believe they said you could interact with the LoTR characters....c'mon
Oh, not to mention I believe they said no PvP, what is that, its good vs evil, conflict. Etc...Geez...
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
I think right now I'm looking forward to Horizon's. The screenshots are just amazing. I think further down the road Middle Earth Online or Dungeons and Dragon's Online may be my weapon of choice.
dude! that matrix pong thing was awesome! anyway, would like to be more original but i have to say world of warcraft. mythica also looks very nice, more action anyway. but the arenas in wow... thats just the coolest thing in an mmorpg ever. i believe you can bet on the battles, thats kool. tourneys would be awesome. yea, oddly thats the thing im most excited about in wow.
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Horizons first...Then leave there to go to Middle-Earth Online, then I will leave there when Dungeons & Dragons Online comes out. I think I got my MMO's planned out for the next 3+ years
Oh BTW Finwe. Um' if you are really into MEO you would know there is PVP. But with restrictions. It is not normal for an Elf to go and raid the homes of Hobbits. PvP = Chaos. So in a way, it is correct that MEO would be NOT PvP. But in another way, it will be but controlled, because of players that love to ruin entertainment for others just to randomly kill without reason or just to be like a typical teenager and behave oppositionally to get attention, get others angry (IRL), bend the rules in their favor or just to see how far they can get away with being a nuissance and laugh when someone complains about them (knowing they can just create a new char and totally decieve everyone that is unaware. All of this my friend is called Grief playing in my eyes. To them type of players, I really do hope that on a daily basis they have a little brother or sister that constantly interupts the things they enjoy in life so there are constantly annoyed.
I think a majority of Tolkien fans would be upset if everyone was senselessly running around killing each other like they were in a Deathmatch FPS game. It wouls take away the whole environment of what Middle-Earth is all about. I don't remember anywhere in any Tolkien books where murder was a major problem within all of the kingdom, so I couldn't see how plain ol' PvP would fit into the world. That is mainly what is wrong with most MMORPG games and PvP and that is why the majority of players stay on carebear servers. However, I am sure that when most MMORPG games in the future that have different restrictions (thanks to grief players that don't know how to play a ROLE) will have an ALL PvP server for those that just like to combat senselessly to feed their self-esteem IRL.
Also, D&D Online will not be a BG2 thingy. It will be based strictly off the D&D 3.5 Ed. HARDCORE rules set. From what I have been informed of is that it will be in the land of Faerun and of course include the City of Baldur's gate along with over 20 other major cities when it is first released sometime in 2005. Basically it wil include North to South including all of the sword coast region and in coast to the Silver Marches down to Calimshan. There will be constant updates to terrain changes, ongoing stories and a lot of other periodic updates that will be either bi-weekly or monthly that will entail an ongoing living world of the forgotten realms setting. Landmass more easternly will come in expansions and well and off coast islands as the Moonshae Ilses and other less promenant islands that tie to a ton of history you will read about in books, NPC stories, notes and other types of information exchanges while playing. Don't ask me how I know this. I will not say. But if you think I am just guessing, that is up to you. Just think about it If you are a Forgotten Realms fan, you probably know what I am talking about and know how vast and detail the history will be like in D&D Online. Lets just hope Turbine doesn't let us all down. They have a good and bad track record. However, I think they have more confidence in this project than they did with any game they have and are currently working on...Have fun, cya in Faerun
"Oh BTW Finwe. Um' if you are really into MEO you would know there is PVP. But with restrictions. It is not normal for an Elf to go and raid the homes of Hobbits. PvP = Chaos. So in a way, it is correct that MEO would be NOT PvP. But in another way, it will be but controlled, because of players that love to ruin entertainment for others just to randomly kill without reason or just to be like a typical teenager and behave oppositionally to get attention, get others angry (IRL), bend the rules in their favor or just to see how far they can get away with being a nuissance and laugh when someone complains about them (knowing they can just create a new char and totally decieve everyone that is unaware. All of this my friend is called Grief playing in my eyes. To them type of players, I really do hope that on a daily basis they have a little brother or sister that constantly interupts the things they enjoy in life so there are constantly annoyed. I think a majority of Tolkien fans would be upset if everyone was senselessly running around killing each other like they were in a Deathmatch FPS game. It wouls take away the whole environment of what Middle-Earth is all about. I don't remember anywhere in any Tolkien books where murder was a major problem within all of the kingdom, so I couldn't see how plain ol' PvP would fit into the world. That is mainly what is wrong with most MMORPG games and PvP and that is why the majority of players stay on carebear servers. However, I am sure that when most MMORPG games in the future that have different restrictions (thanks to grief players that don't know how to play a ROLE) will have an ALL PvP server for those that just like to combat senselessly to feed their self-esteem IRL. "
I agree that senseless an elf killing a hobbit would ruin the storyline. But there were men who worked for sauron, evil men then there were the orcs of sauron, there were also evil hobbits, and elves and dwarves were never on friendly terms. Heck, the only real people that didnt have records of joining sauron or being evil.
And no, i'm not really into MEO, I figure that its a game that shouldnt be done. And last time i read the site was a couple months ago and I believe then they didnt mention one friggin thing about PvP. And I remember reading or hearing about how they were not even going to add PvP, or very little, which I have a feeling they'll add very little. Which IMO, will mess up it as bad as having elves murder hobbits.
You say PvP=chaos, so thus it'd make sense that they'd make it non PvP, when no, its the opposite, thus because PvP is chaos, they should have it, in the time setting they're setting it in, the world was in chaos. If they want to set it in the time where Aragorn was King, and the land was at peace, then fine, they should do it if they arent going to make the game PvP strongly, even when the land is at peace, there is criminals, but at least it isnt as so blatant considering the time they're setting it in was chaos.
"Also, D&D Online will not be a BG2 thingy. It will be based strictly off the D&D 3.5 Ed. HARDCORE rules set. From what I have been informed of is that it will be in the land of Faerun and of course include the City of Baldur's gate along with over 20 other major cities when it is first released sometime in 2005. Basically it wil include North to South including all of the sword coast region and in coast to the Silver Marches down to Calimshan. There will be constant updates to terrain changes, ongoing stories and a lot of other periodic updates that will be either bi-weekly or monthly that will entail an ongoing living world of the forgotten realms setting. Landmass more easternly will come in expansions and well and off coast islands as the Moonshae Ilses and other less promenant islands that tie to a ton of history you will read about in books, NPC stories, notes and other types of information exchanges while playing. Don't ask me how I know this. I will not say. But if you think I am just guessing, that is up to you. Just think about it If you are a Forgotten Realms fan, you probably know what I am talking about and know how vast and detail the history will be like in D&D Online. Lets just hope Turbine doesn't let us all down. They have a good and bad track record. However, I think they have more confidence in this project than they did with any game they have and are currently working on...Have fun, cya in Faerun"
I'm not too familiar with 3.5 edition rules. Although what really made BG fun, was the freedom to do about anything, hero, villian, landowner, warrior, hermit wizard, hero, criminal, thug, thief, etc.
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
A lot of MMORPG's arent going for story driven games anymore.. it's a field of mass marketing at the moment. Get it there, get it out, THEn fix it up is what its all come down to right now. This will only be the tip of the iceburg for MMORPG's right now my friends
And yes.. I do believe MEO should be complete PvP.
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From what I've seen so far DnD 3.5 rules are hardly any different from basic 3rd edition... all they did was tweak a few things here and add a few things here and made a new pretty cover and retailed 3 new books at $30 a pop.
Anyways... back on topic... If it [Dnd Online] uses true DnD rules and gives players the freedom they should get in a DnD game it could damned well be a force to be reckoned with... however its most likely just another blight on the DnD name by wizards of the coast... I'm look more towards Lejendary Adventure (yes its spelled like that). Gary Gygax the godfather of RPGs is in on production there... go check it out on the game list...
Dragon Empires without a doubt, this will be the biggest PvP title for a long time now that Shadowbane has shown us that waiting 5 years before releasing a game does not work.
Second on the list is Everquest 2, I don't play EQ any longer but still admit that it is the best experience in MMORPGS at this time.
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Matrix Pong.
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Really though, I'm looking foward to World of Warcraft.
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Priest (First Western Type MMORPG) Sounds interesting and hella alot fun, getting away from the Swords and daggers or future type games.
definately lineage 2
Enjoying EVE-ONLINE so much io wont switch too soon.
If i get bored i'll look into SWG maybe because they will have fixed a lot bugs and added a lot content by then.
Lineage 2,Dragon Empires and Horizons look promising too.
I love Blizzard but WoW seems to be to be heading too much for the mass i fear. I like the complexity of MMORPGS.
I wouldn't play eve if that would stop me hehe.
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Lejendary adventures seems to be coming along nicely with Gary Gygax having his input used.
Also Dungeons and Dragons On-line will be nice to see although its not slated until like 2005 i think.
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I am quite interested in checking out WoW as it is looking to shape up into a great game.
Others are Middle Earth, Lineage 2 and yes I want to try SWG I'm so tired of DAOC.
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EQ2 looks interesting, extreme graphics, would probably murder every computer. Although if its the same-o monster bashing wont even try playing it.
Horizons is a dissapointment, the original idea was awesome, the new idea is just a pathetic replacement. Not to mention its weapons are freakin gay looking.
WoW.......Was looking forward to it till they said 10% pvp, and no PvP servers. I expected something like that to happen to a game like everquest 2, but its warcraft, its about freakin conflict and chaos. The first death knight, cant remember his name, he was a human prince, killed his own father! Orcs and humans have been warring for decades, etc, etc.
Dungeons & Dragons, interesting concept, i've been hoping for something like this to happen, always wanted a MMRPG like Baldurs Gate II in 3d. The freedom, but consequences in baldurs gate II were great. Thats what would really make this game, have the freedom to be a hero, warlord, villian, criminal. Or maybe even command a keep and an army.
Lineage II seems to be interestingly coming along. Probably after SWG i'll be trying that out.
Dragon empires has an interesting concept, except it seems to be quite aways off.
As for middle earth online....my oh my....what a disgraceful ruin. For one, you shouldnt be trying to make a game that is in a time period placed in stone (tolkien strongly described that time period) not to mention i believe they said you could interact with the LoTR characters....c'mon
Oh, not to mention I believe they said no PvP, what is that, its good vs evil, conflict. Etc...Geez...
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
As much as some of these games you all are looking forward to, IMHO I don't think any of them will hold a candle to HORIZONS.
Don't get me wrong, I am watching many of the others, but I still think HZ will be the best one.
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dude! that matrix pong thing was awesome! anyway, would like to be more original but i have to say world of warcraft. mythica also looks very nice, more action anyway. but the arenas in wow... thats just the coolest thing in an mmorpg ever. i believe you can bet on the battles, thats kool. tourneys would be awesome. yea, oddly thats the thing im most excited about in wow.
"This is the beginning of a new day. You have been given this day to use as you will. You can waste it or use it for good. What you do today is important because you are exchanging a day of your life for it. When tomorrow comes, this day will be gone forever; in its place is something that you have left behind...let it be something good."
- Unknown Author
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Horizons first...Then leave there to go to Middle-Earth Online, then I will leave there when Dungeons & Dragons Online comes out. I think I got my MMO's planned out for the next 3+ years
Oh BTW Finwe. Um' if you are really into MEO you would know there is PVP. But with restrictions. It is not normal for an Elf to go and raid the homes of Hobbits. PvP = Chaos. So in a way, it is correct that MEO would be NOT PvP. But in another way, it will be but controlled, because of players that love to ruin entertainment for others just to randomly kill without reason or just to be like a typical teenager and behave oppositionally to get attention, get others angry (IRL), bend the rules in their favor or just to see how far they can get away with being a nuissance and laugh when someone complains about them (knowing they can just create a new char and totally decieve everyone that is unaware. All of this my friend is called Grief playing in my eyes. To them type of players, I really do hope that on a daily basis they have a little brother or sister that constantly interupts the things they enjoy in life so there are constantly annoyed.
I think a majority of Tolkien fans would be upset if everyone was senselessly running around killing each other like they were in a Deathmatch FPS game. It wouls take away the whole environment of what Middle-Earth is all about. I don't remember anywhere in any Tolkien books where murder was a major problem within all of the kingdom, so I couldn't see how plain ol' PvP would fit into the world. That is mainly what is wrong with most MMORPG games and PvP and that is why the majority of players stay on carebear servers. However, I am sure that when most MMORPG games in the future that have different restrictions (thanks to grief players that don't know how to play a ROLE) will have an ALL PvP server for those that just like to combat senselessly to feed their self-esteem IRL.
Also, D&D Online will not be a BG2 thingy. It will be based strictly off the D&D 3.5 Ed. HARDCORE rules set. From what I have been informed of is that it will be in the land of Faerun and of course include the City of Baldur's gate along with over 20 other major cities when it is first released sometime in 2005. Basically it wil include North to South including all of the sword coast region and in coast to the Silver Marches down to Calimshan. There will be constant updates to terrain changes, ongoing stories and a lot of other periodic updates that will be either bi-weekly or monthly that will entail an ongoing living world of the forgotten realms setting. Landmass more easternly will come in expansions and well and off coast islands as the Moonshae Ilses and other less promenant islands that tie to a ton of history you will read about in books, NPC stories, notes and other types of information exchanges while playing. Don't ask me how I know this. I will not say. But if you think I am just guessing, that is up to you. Just think about it If you are a Forgotten Realms fan, you probably know what I am talking about and know how vast and detail the history will be like in D&D Online. Lets just hope Turbine doesn't let us all down. They have a good and bad track record. However, I think they have more confidence in this project than they did with any game they have and are currently working on...Have fun, cya in Faerun
"Adventure... heh! Excitement... heh! A Jedi craves not these things" -Yoda, Silent Bob
"Oh BTW Finwe. Um' if you are really into MEO you would know there is PVP. But with restrictions. It is not normal for an Elf to go and raid the homes of Hobbits. PvP = Chaos. So in a way, it is correct that MEO would be NOT PvP. But in another way, it will be but controlled, because of players that love to ruin entertainment for others just to randomly kill without reason or just to be like a typical teenager and behave oppositionally to get attention, get others angry (IRL), bend the rules in their favor or just to see how far they can get away with being a nuissance and laugh when someone complains about them (knowing they can just create a new char and totally decieve everyone that is unaware. All of this my friend is called Grief playing in my eyes. To them type of players, I really do hope that on a daily basis they have a little brother or sister that constantly interupts the things they enjoy in life so there are constantly annoyed.
I think a majority of Tolkien fans would be upset if everyone was senselessly running around killing each other like they were in a Deathmatch FPS game. It wouls take away the whole environment of what Middle-Earth is all about. I don't remember anywhere in any Tolkien books where murder was a major problem within all of the kingdom, so I couldn't see how plain ol' PvP would fit into the world. That is mainly what is wrong with most MMORPG games and PvP and that is why the majority of players stay on carebear servers. However, I am sure that when most MMORPG games in the future that have different restrictions (thanks to grief players that don't know how to play a ROLE) will have an ALL PvP server for those that just like to combat senselessly to feed their self-esteem IRL. "
I agree that senseless an elf killing a hobbit would ruin the storyline. But there were men who worked for sauron, evil men then there were the orcs of sauron, there were also evil hobbits, and elves and dwarves were never on friendly terms. Heck, the only real people that didnt have records of joining sauron or being evil.
And no, i'm not really into MEO, I figure that its a game that shouldnt be done. And last time i read the site was a couple months ago and I believe then they didnt mention one friggin thing about PvP. And I remember reading or hearing about how they were not even going to add PvP, or very little, which I have a feeling they'll add very little. Which IMO, will mess up it as bad as having elves murder hobbits.
You say PvP=chaos, so thus it'd make sense that they'd make it non PvP, when no, its the opposite, thus because PvP is chaos, they should have it, in the time setting they're setting it in, the world was in chaos. If they want to set it in the time where Aragorn was King, and the land was at peace, then fine, they should do it if they arent going to make the game PvP strongly, even when the land is at peace, there is criminals, but at least it isnt as so blatant considering the time they're setting it in was chaos.
"Also, D&D Online will not be a BG2 thingy. It will be based strictly off the D&D 3.5 Ed. HARDCORE rules set. From what I have been informed of is that it will be in the land of Faerun and of course include the City of Baldur's gate along with over 20 other major cities when it is first released sometime in 2005. Basically it wil include North to South including all of the sword coast region and in coast to the Silver Marches down to Calimshan. There will be constant updates to terrain changes, ongoing stories and a lot of other periodic updates that will be either bi-weekly or monthly that will entail an ongoing living world of the forgotten realms setting. Landmass more easternly will come in expansions and well and off coast islands as the Moonshae Ilses and other less promenant islands that tie to a ton of history you will read about in books, NPC stories, notes and other types of information exchanges while playing. Don't ask me how I know this. I will not say. But if you think I am just guessing, that is up to you. Just think about it If you are a Forgotten Realms fan, you probably know what I am talking about and know how vast and detail the history will be like in D&D Online. Lets just hope Turbine doesn't let us all down. They have a good and bad track record. However, I think they have more confidence in this project than they did with any game they have and are currently working on...Have fun, cya in Faerun"
I'm not too familiar with 3.5 edition rules. Although what really made BG fun, was the freedom to do about anything, hero, villian, landowner, warrior, hermit wizard, hero, criminal, thug, thief, etc.
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
And yes.. I do believe MEO should be complete PvP.
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Got to say WoW, MEO and Matrix online... And idealy, I'd like to have them 6-9 months apart !
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ShadowBane rulzzzzz !
From what I've seen so far DnD 3.5 rules are hardly any different from basic 3rd edition... all they did was tweak a few things here and add a few things here and made a new pretty cover and retailed 3 new books at $30 a pop.
Anyways... back on topic... If it [Dnd Online] uses true DnD rules and gives players the freedom they should get in a DnD game it could damned well be a force to be reckoned with... however its most likely just another blight on the DnD name by wizards of the coast... I'm look more towards Lejendary Adventure (yes its spelled like that). Gary Gygax the godfather of RPGs is in on production there... go check it out on the game list...
Down with Wizards of the Coast! Long live TSR!
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"Adventure... heh! Excitement... heh! A Jedi craves not these things" -Yoda, Silent Bob
"Adventure... heh! Excitement... heh! A Jedi craves not these things" -Yoda, Silent Bob
Dragon Empires without a doubt, this will be the biggest PvP title for a long time now that Shadowbane has shown us that waiting 5 years before releasing a game does not work.
Second on the list is Everquest 2, I don't play EQ any longer but still admit that it is the best experience in MMORPGS at this time.
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30 something weaponsmith