No your spreading a contradiction and mis-information.
If you wanted to spread the correct information you would also add..
Serenity is the chinese 'version' of Eve, it can hardly be classed as the same game,
You need a chinese citizen number to get on, so illegal for anyone else. Even if you could get on you wouldnt want to, and even the chinese dont want to. (only 20'000 subscribers)
Eve IS tranquility, a single server, there is no choice.
You're right - because the other EVE server is for China it doesn't count. My bad. It's probably a WoW clone too, because as you say, it's hardly the same game.
You need a chinese citizen number to get on, so illegal for anyone else.
Eve IS tranquility, a single server, there is no choice.
You're right - because the other EVE server is for China it doesn't count. My bad.
Any more information you want to share?
You catch on quick! You must be an Eve player already
As for other information, hmmm, well I do yes but there is so much that I wouldnt know where to start. However, f you have any other mis-information you want to share I'd be happy to, once again, set it straight
Serenity is the chinese 'version' of Eve, it can hardly be classed as the same game,
You need a chinese citizen number to get on, so illegal for anyone else. Even if you could get on you wouldnt want to, and even the chinese dont want to. (only 20'000 subscribers)
You're right - because the other EVE server is for China it doesn't count. My bad. It's probably a WoW clone too, because as you say, it's hardly the same game.
You're just saying stupid things.... Serenity doesn't count because it's a really restricted server based on geographical and political restrictions. Thus, it cannot be counted in the avalaible servers... So, we just have Tranquility avalaible.
But, it's the same game on Serenity. With a really few players, nearly null playerproduced stuff, etc...
You're just trying to be a troll with your wow-like argument, so, please stay out of this thread. Thanks.
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1. Mine an astroid for hours, repetative and mindblowinlgy boring. That becomes fun when you are doing it to suport your battle fleet that is going to go rape some other players in a weeks time
I apologize to cut the excellent original post to just one line. I think the OPost was a great one, but ...
in this one sentence the true nature of >EVE shows.
"To rape some other players in a few weeks time".
What EVE does well: clustered servers so the players play in one big universe.
What EVE does not support: is fast fun and action. A serious limitation in today's "fast life".
What EVE is not good at: offering a space opera with planets to walk on and adventures with a decent avatar.
I am sorry but if I want to have PvP fun, the least I am thinking of is "preparing" for it for a few weeks and then be done with in 20 minutes time.
My life is too short for this kind of fun.
More meaningful?
The investment of time does not come in the same proportion as the length of the fun.
The suicide ganking in high section space caused me to leave and i started in jan. 04. Im sure im not the only one either.
Luckily, it's incredibly easy to avoid being suicide-ganked. Only AFKers and people who are stupid enough to use ships comically unsuited to the task of hauling high-value goods get ganked.
And for the record, EVE is a single server game but it is played on 1000's of instances. So when someone says that it is a one server game don't expect it to be seamless from one system to the next because it is not.
There are no instances in EVE. Zero. Nada. None at all. Everywhere in space is accessible to everyone (although some mission deadspaces have ship class restrictions).
What EVE does have is zones; with each system being a single zone.
The investment of time does not come in the same proportion as the length of the fun.
I know what your saying, but I beleive this is the exact kind of opinion the OP wants to try and set straight;-
YOU, like many many others seem to be under this illusion that you must spend too much time to prepare yourself to have fun, and is one of the reasons why, even existing Eve players just dont get it.
Because actually its not true. If you've ever been in any kind of good corp or good alliance then your PvPing every day, your logging on and making your way to were the action is...
Of course there is "prep time" but is this different to other MMO's ?.. Not at all. In most MMO's you prettymuch have to hit max level first. And that takes a lot of time. Even when you get to max level you then must faction grind to get the really nice stuff to make you competative.
In fact the really BIG alliances dont even want their members farming ISK, why should they? The alliance provides all their ships for free. They need pilots, not ISK.
As an experiment I made a new character on a new account once, of course I knew what I was doing, but that character was pvp competative and having fun in a PvP corp inside of a month. And let me tell ya, that was a lot quicker than grinding to max level on Aion, and a lot more fun!
The suicide ganking in high section space caused me to leave and i started in jan. 04. Im sure im not the only one either.
Luckily, it's incredibly easy to avoid being suicide-ganked. Only AFKers and people who are stupid enough to use ships comically unsuited to the task of hauling high-value goods get ganked.
Which were you?
Aww, dude thats totally unfair.. look, he's a 2004 player, you cant really expect him to understand how to avoid suicide ganking? I mean, he's barley had enough time to train up any skills... not even enough time to read anything about that so its a bit unfair to say he's stupid!
The suicide ganking in high section space caused me to leave and i started in jan. 04. Im sure im not the only one either.
Luckily, it's incredibly easy to avoid being suicide-ganked. Only AFKers and people who are stupid enough to use ships comically unsuited to the task of hauling high-value goods get ganked.
Which were you?
The one who stoped paying to get ganked.
" Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Would Threaten It " MAGA
I find the learning curve to be steep in comparison to other MMOs, so yes you'll get more out of the game the more time you put in and the more you learn the game's many intricacies. It can be quite daunting for the new player. Without question do the tutorial and read up as much as you can. Make friends, go to EVE University, join a corp, ask a ton of questions. As a new player you are potentially fodder for more experienced players if you are careless and do not have support from more experienced players. Veteran players eat newbies for breakfast, lunch and dinner by way of pew-pew, thievery, scams and at times exploits. New players will have a chance to carve their way in EVE but of course much is already dominated by more experienced players.
Everyone eventually ends up in some form of PVP. Simply because running missions and solely NPC interaction becomes boring and a grind. Too the storyline and more RP aspects of the game are limited. Most of the game is player driven and exists along side the storyline, in fact you'll often find player initiatives contradicting the storyline and the game supports this. The only landscape that changes, sadly, is player driven and completely aside from storyline.
As with most if not all MMOs the game is designed with the golden carrot always dangling just out of reach, much is about obtaining stuff (ships, mods, etc.) and isk to buy more stuff or better stuff. This in itself becomes quite boring, like having a second job to earn virtual stuff. So again being in a player corp or otherwise PVP is the only way to go to keep things interesting. Note that as all players are immortal the only thing you are really attacking or defending is stuff, stuff that is solely used for attacking and defending other stuff. In a nutshell that's it. You attack/defend and move stuff around, round and round again. You'll be able to get some fun interaction with other players and if you are into killboards or being king of stuff you should be happy to play EVE for some time.
No please keep afk hauling through empire space with your hold filled with goodies. You should try and be slick and stuff your items in a GSC, which will just make the wolves nosier...but it's worth a shot. If someone had a bad experience with the game, they just aren't going to change their minds, I guess.
It doesn't matter if the developers introduce new game mechanics, equipment, etc..people that have been burned are just gonna feel a certain way. Luckily we have forums that we can all keep telling each other why we feel the way we do. It doesn't really accomplish much, but at least once a week a new person will ask..."Is EvE hard? If it's FFA PvP, does that mean I lose everything if I die?
I am coming to the conclusion that these players will be on this and the eve'o soon b/c they can't be bothered to even search for these types of threads on either one.
It all equals out in the end I guess.
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Gotta have the carebear types in the game though for it to function.
Without miners, mission runners, and ratters, there could be no pvp except perhaps in rookie ships.
Carebears are completely and totally 100% useless, everyone of them could cancel their subs and pvpers would still have their ships and minerals would still come into the market and many people would probably be glad to see the back of them.
Better margins for the Industrialists and traders and less LP devaluation for people who support themselves with PVE and make 0.0 mining even more profitable, you don't really believe they make all the ships do you? around half of the pvpers have industry alts and the other half use PVE as an income.
Currently playing:
EVE online (Ruining low sec one hotdrop at a time)
Gravity Rush, Dishonoured: The Knife of Dunwall.
(Waiting for) Metro: Last Light, Company of Heroes II.
C) Full of 12 year olds who think mass ganking people is fun
D) for 99.95% of people
What eve is NOT
A) FUN
Entertaining
C) Worth playing
D) A Good game
Lol, hulkageddon victim or a victim of sucide ganking. Don't autopilot in an untanked badger with 200m worth of stuff folks!
WRONG. Please try again. I spend enough time with spreadsheets at work I don't want to play with then when I want to have some FUN.
WOW, (probably a game more your style), troll much?
EVE is many things, including harsh and unforgiving, but you really should understand the game before slamming it.
Never ending gank fest? Well, the entire design of the game is around PVP, however many players (I was one) figure out how to fly safe and rarely get killed. (note, I did not say never get killed, wouldn't be fun if you never tried anything risky)
Fun? All in the eye of the beholder, I played for over 3 years and had quite a bit of fun, but EVE definitely doesn't suit everyone's tastes.
Full of 12 year olds? No, I'd guestimate that of MMO's over 100K subs it has the oldest gaming population out there, and the fewest females. Since the purpose of the game is to defeat your opponent, no matter what the avenue of competition is, yep, you could say everyone is out to get you, because they are.
Actually, there are many friendly, helpful people out there, and even some of the folks that have killed me were pretty cool folks once I accepted the fact they killed me as part of the gameplay.
Hope you find your fun game out there, but for those looking for something a little more edgy, give EVE a try.
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C) Full of 12 year olds who think mass ganking people is fun
D) for 99.95% of people
What eve is NOT
A) FUN
Entertaining
C) Worth playing
D) A Good game
Lol, hulkageddon victim or a victim of sucide ganking. Don't autopilot in an untanked badger with 200m worth of stuff folks!
WRONG. Please try again. I spend enough time with spreadsheets at work I don't want to play with then when I want to have some FUN.
I've played the game since beta and I honestly don't think I've ever loaded a single EVE Spreadsheet. I've been a corp leader, miner, PVEer, wormhole exploration, trading, and my main has always been straight PVP. As well as spending the entire time in some of the most powerful corps/alliances to ever come through the game.
Yet, this is probably the most common argument I've ever seen about EVE.
Are these spreadsheets given out in the newbie tutorial? Or am I missing something here. What is this, my 7th? 8th year in EVE? Something like that. Where are these spreadsheets coming from? I bet it's those damn Amarr. Imperialist bastards.
C) Full of 12 year olds who think mass ganking people is fun
D) for 99.95% of people
What eve is NOT
A) FUN
Entertaining
C) Worth playing
D) A Good game
Lol, hulkageddon victim or a victim of sucide ganking. Don't autopilot in an untanked badger with 200m worth of stuff folks!
WRONG. Please try again. I spend enough time with spreadsheets at work I don't want to play with then when I want to have some FUN.
WOW, (probably a game more your style), troll much?
EVE is many things, including harsh and unforgiving, but you really should understand the game before slamming it.
Never ending gank fest? Well, the entire design of the game is around PVP, however many players (I was one) figure out how to fly safe and rarely get killed. (note, I did not say never get killed, wouldn't be fun if you never tried anything risky)
Fun? All in the eye of the beholder, I played for over 3 years and had quite a bit of fun, but EVE definitely doesn't suit everyone's tastes.
Full of 12 year olds? No, I'd guestimate that of MMO's over 100K subs it has the oldest gaming population out there, and the fewest females. Since the purpose of the game is to defeat your opponent, no matter what the avenue of competition is, yep, you could say everyone is out to get you, because they are.
Actually, there are many friendly, helpful people out there, and even some of the folks that have killed me were pretty cool folks once I accepted the fact they killed me as part of the gameplay.
Hope you find your fun game out there, but for those looking for something a little more edgy, give EVE a try.
I have tried wow it was even worse than eve is. So no its not my kind of game. I DO understand eve I have played it for 3-4 months twice IE 6-8 months in total. Which is more than long enough to understand the game.
Ahh typical eve player response. PVP and Ganking have very little to do with each other. I have NO problem with FAIR and BALANCED pvp EG Guild Wars. BUT pvp in eve is its nothing of the sort. Eve was designed around allowing the players to do anything they wanted to. So it is now of course the biggest hive of scum in the mmoverse.
They maybe be physicaly older but they sure act like 12 year olds and younger
Funny how for every nice person in eve i met 000's of utter assholes.
I have found a several fun games. EG Guild Wars, Lotro and Fallen Earth. but eve is NOT edgey but only for those people who like to ruin other people game play.
Top 3 MMO's PRE-CU SWG GW1 GW2
Worst 2 wow and Lotro Under standing stones it went woke
nothing is worse than getting constantly ganked....The I'm more pro cause I'm on the side with more ppl is definantly a 12 yo attitude whether the actual age is 12 or 35
Funny how for every nice person in eve i met 000's of utter assholes.
That is odd. I've met dozens of excellent people in EVE, many of them really kind and helpful.
As a rule they they do tend to be impatient with whiners who would rather complain than learn how to play or refuse to accept that it's a different game than a normal MMO.
nothing is worse than getting constantly ganked....The I'm more pro cause I'm on the side with more ppl is definantly a 12 yo attitude whether the actual age is 12 or 35
If you're constantly getting ganked then you're obviously not learning from your mistakes, which is neither the fault of the game nor of other players.
Many many people manage to travel through low-sec null sec daily without getting killed, even when there are hostiles around. If you are not among them then YOU need to look at what YOU are doing wrong.
If you consdier waiting for hours on end for PvP just because some douche is station camping and waiting for all your prime members to log off so he can gank when the population is low. Just because he has no job and you do. Then yea, eve has pvp. The pvp is just all stationa nd stargate camps.
There is less pvp is EvE than some carebear games I can think of. This is the main reason I quit. Sure there is item loss, but who cares when PvP never happens. I'm in PvP for the fact that people are better than AI. I could give a crap less about the items I lose.
EvE is about a pvp game as WoW is a sandbox. Remove docking inside stations, and stargates and you might have a legitimate pvp where it happens because it happens, instead of it happens only when someone expliots the game system to his advantage.
EvE is about a pvp game as WoW is a sandbox. Remove docking inside stations, and stargates and you might have a legitimate pvp where it happens because it happens, instead of it happens only when someone expliots the game system to his advantage.
I lol'd... PVP doesn't happen because it happens. It happens because people want it to happen.
Removing the people who stupidly die because they were not carefull enough, or didn't seriously evaluate risks, you only have PVP where the 2 sides wanted it.
That point aside, removing gates and stations would be the most idiotic thing ever... Because there wouldn't be PVP at natural waypoints, and pve players would not have place to hide, since they would be probed in space,it would really become a true gankfest...
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EVE is like real life, it's unforgiving, harsh and only the people who are willing to take risks will get anywhere. As for ganking, yes it does happen. But if you carrying expensive cargo in a frigate or industrial ship, even I would kill you. Just for been stupid. If you want a safe game, then EVE is not for you.
I must also add that in all my time in EVE, I haven't looked at a spread sheet. So I have no idea why anybody would want to. But I guess that's geeks for you, they've just got to take it to the next level.
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You're right - because the other EVE server is for China it doesn't count. My bad. It's probably a WoW clone too, because as you say, it's hardly the same game.
Any more information you want to share?
You catch on quick! You must be an Eve player already
As for other information, hmmm, well I do yes but there is so much that I wouldnt know where to start. However, f you have any other mis-information you want to share I'd be happy to, once again, set it straight
You're just saying stupid things.... Serenity doesn't count because it's a really restricted server based on geographical and political restrictions. Thus, it cannot be counted in the avalaible servers... So, we just have Tranquility avalaible.
But, it's the same game on Serenity. With a really few players, nearly null playerproduced stuff, etc...
You're just trying to be a troll with your wow-like argument, so, please stay out of this thread. Thanks.
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(but feel free to explain my error if you want
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I apologize to cut the excellent original post to just one line. I think the OPost was a great one, but ...
in this one sentence the true nature of >EVE shows.
"To rape some other players in a few weeks time".
What EVE does well: clustered servers so the players play in one big universe.
What EVE does not support: is fast fun and action. A serious limitation in today's "fast life".
What EVE is not good at: offering a space opera with planets to walk on and adventures with a decent avatar.
I am sorry but if I want to have PvP fun, the least I am thinking of is "preparing" for it for a few weeks and then be done with in 20 minutes time.
My life is too short for this kind of fun.
More meaningful?
The investment of time does not come in the same proportion as the length of the fun.
Luckily, it's incredibly easy to avoid being suicide-ganked. Only AFKers and people who are stupid enough to use ships comically unsuited to the task of hauling high-value goods get ganked.
Which were you?
Give me liberty or give me lasers
There are no instances in EVE. Zero. Nada. None at all. Everywhere in space is accessible to everyone (although some mission deadspaces have ship class restrictions).
What EVE does have is zones; with each system being a single zone.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
I know what your saying, but I beleive this is the exact kind of opinion the OP wants to try and set straight;-
YOU, like many many others seem to be under this illusion that you must spend too much time to prepare yourself to have fun, and is one of the reasons why, even existing Eve players just dont get it.
Because actually its not true. If you've ever been in any kind of good corp or good alliance then your PvPing every day, your logging on and making your way to were the action is...
Of course there is "prep time" but is this different to other MMO's ?.. Not at all. In most MMO's you prettymuch have to hit max level first. And that takes a lot of time. Even when you get to max level you then must faction grind to get the really nice stuff to make you competative.
In fact the really BIG alliances dont even want their members farming ISK, why should they? The alliance provides all their ships for free. They need pilots, not ISK.
As an experiment I made a new character on a new account once, of course I knew what I was doing, but that character was pvp competative and having fun in a PvP corp inside of a month. And let me tell ya, that was a lot quicker than grinding to max level on Aion, and a lot more fun!
Aww, dude thats totally unfair.. look, he's a 2004 player, you cant really expect him to understand how to avoid suicide ganking? I mean, he's barley had enough time to train up any skills... not even enough time to read anything about that so its a bit unfair to say he's stupid!
=]
The one who stoped paying to get ganked.
MAGA
For the most part I agree with the OP.
I find the learning curve to be steep in comparison to other MMOs, so yes you'll get more out of the game the more time you put in and the more you learn the game's many intricacies. It can be quite daunting for the new player. Without question do the tutorial and read up as much as you can. Make friends, go to EVE University, join a corp, ask a ton of questions. As a new player you are potentially fodder for more experienced players if you are careless and do not have support from more experienced players. Veteran players eat newbies for breakfast, lunch and dinner by way of pew-pew, thievery, scams and at times exploits. New players will have a chance to carve their way in EVE but of course much is already dominated by more experienced players.
Everyone eventually ends up in some form of PVP. Simply because running missions and solely NPC interaction becomes boring and a grind. Too the storyline and more RP aspects of the game are limited. Most of the game is player driven and exists along side the storyline, in fact you'll often find player initiatives contradicting the storyline and the game supports this. The only landscape that changes, sadly, is player driven and completely aside from storyline.
As with most if not all MMOs the game is designed with the golden carrot always dangling just out of reach, much is about obtaining stuff (ships, mods, etc.) and isk to buy more stuff or better stuff. This in itself becomes quite boring, like having a second job to earn virtual stuff. So again being in a player corp or otherwise PVP is the only way to go to keep things interesting. Note that as all players are immortal the only thing you are really attacking or defending is stuff, stuff that is solely used for attacking and defending other stuff. In a nutshell that's it. You attack/defend and move stuff around, round and round again. You'll be able to get some fun interaction with other players and if you are into killboards or being king of stuff you should be happy to play EVE for some time.
what eve is
A) A neverending gank fest
C) Full of 12 year olds who think mass ganking people is fun
D) for 99.95% of people
What eve is NOT
A) FUN
C) Worth playing
D) A Good game
Top 3 MMO's PRE-CU SWG GW1 GW2
Worst 2 wow and Lotro Under standing stones it went woke
Lol, hulkageddon victim or a victim of sucide ganking. Don't autopilot in an untanked badger with 200m worth of stuff folks!
No please keep afk hauling through empire space with your hold filled with goodies. You should try and be slick and stuff your items in a GSC, which will just make the wolves nosier...but it's worth a shot. If someone had a bad experience with the game, they just aren't going to change their minds, I guess.
It doesn't matter if the developers introduce new game mechanics, equipment, etc..people that have been burned are just gonna feel a certain way. Luckily we have forums that we can all keep telling each other why we feel the way we do. It doesn't really accomplish much, but at least once a week a new person will ask..."Is EvE hard? If it's FFA PvP, does that mean I lose everything if I die?
I am coming to the conclusion that these players will be on this and the eve'o soon b/c they can't be bothered to even search for these types of threads on either one.
It all equals out in the end I guess.
Playing: BF4/BF:Hardline, Subnautica 7 days to die
Hiatus: EvE
Waiting on: World of Darkness(sigh)
Interested in: better games in general
Carebears are completely and totally 100% useless, everyone of them could cancel their subs and pvpers would still have their ships and minerals would still come into the market and many people would probably be glad to see the back of them.
Better margins for the Industrialists and traders and less LP devaluation for people who support themselves with PVE and make 0.0 mining even more profitable, you don't really believe they make all the ships do you? around half of the pvpers have industry alts and the other half use PVE as an income.
Currently playing:
EVE online (Ruining low sec one hotdrop at a time)
Gravity Rush,
Dishonoured: The Knife of Dunwall.
(Waiting for) Metro: Last Light,
Company of Heroes II.
WRONG. Please try again. I spend enough time with spreadsheets at work I don't want to play with then when I want to have some FUN.
Top 3 MMO's PRE-CU SWG GW1 GW2
Worst 2 wow and Lotro Under standing stones it went woke
WOW, (probably a game more your style), troll much?
EVE is many things, including harsh and unforgiving, but you really should understand the game before slamming it.
Never ending gank fest? Well, the entire design of the game is around PVP, however many players (I was one) figure out how to fly safe and rarely get killed. (note, I did not say never get killed, wouldn't be fun if you never tried anything risky)
Fun? All in the eye of the beholder, I played for over 3 years and had quite a bit of fun, but EVE definitely doesn't suit everyone's tastes.
Full of 12 year olds? No, I'd guestimate that of MMO's over 100K subs it has the oldest gaming population out there, and the fewest females. Since the purpose of the game is to defeat your opponent, no matter what the avenue of competition is, yep, you could say everyone is out to get you, because they are.
Actually, there are many friendly, helpful people out there, and even some of the folks that have killed me were pretty cool folks once I accepted the fact they killed me as part of the gameplay.
Hope you find your fun game out there, but for those looking for something a little more edgy, give EVE a try.
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"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I've played the game since beta and I honestly don't think I've ever loaded a single EVE Spreadsheet. I've been a corp leader, miner, PVEer, wormhole exploration, trading, and my main has always been straight PVP. As well as spending the entire time in some of the most powerful corps/alliances to ever come through the game.
Yet, this is probably the most common argument I've ever seen about EVE.
Are these spreadsheets given out in the newbie tutorial? Or am I missing something here. What is this, my 7th? 8th year in EVE? Something like that. Where are these spreadsheets coming from? I bet it's those damn Amarr. Imperialist bastards.
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I have tried wow it was even worse than eve is. So no its not my kind of game. I DO understand eve I have played it for 3-4 months twice IE 6-8 months in total. Which is more than long enough to understand the game.
Ahh typical eve player response. PVP and Ganking have very little to do with each other. I have NO problem with FAIR and BALANCED pvp EG Guild Wars. BUT pvp in eve is its nothing of the sort. Eve was designed around allowing the players to do anything they wanted to. So it is now of course the biggest hive of scum in the mmoverse.
They maybe be physicaly older but they sure act like 12 year olds and younger
Funny how for every nice person in eve i met 000's of utter assholes.
I have found a several fun games. EG Guild Wars, Lotro and Fallen Earth. but eve is NOT edgey but only for those people who like to ruin other people game play.
Top 3 MMO's PRE-CU SWG GW1 GW2
Worst 2 wow and Lotro Under standing stones it went woke
nothing is worse than getting constantly ganked....The I'm more pro cause I'm on the side with more ppl is definantly a 12 yo attitude whether the actual age is 12 or 35
All combat in EVE is fair: everyone gets the same options at character creation, which is when the fight starts.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
That is odd. I've met dozens of excellent people in EVE, many of them really kind and helpful.
As a rule they they do tend to be impatient with whiners who would rather complain than learn how to play or refuse to accept that it's a different game than a normal MMO.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
If you're constantly getting ganked then you're obviously not learning from your mistakes, which is neither the fault of the game nor of other players.
Many many people manage to travel through low-sec null sec daily without getting killed, even when there are hostiles around. If you are not among them then YOU need to look at what YOU are doing wrong.
Stopped at number 1.
If you consdier waiting for hours on end for PvP just because some douche is station camping and waiting for all your prime members to log off so he can gank when the population is low. Just because he has no job and you do. Then yea, eve has pvp. The pvp is just all stationa nd stargate camps.
There is less pvp is EvE than some carebear games I can think of. This is the main reason I quit. Sure there is item loss, but who cares when PvP never happens. I'm in PvP for the fact that people are better than AI. I could give a crap less about the items I lose.
EvE is about a pvp game as WoW is a sandbox. Remove docking inside stations, and stargates and you might have a legitimate pvp where it happens because it happens, instead of it happens only when someone expliots the game system to his advantage.
I lol'd... PVP doesn't happen because it happens. It happens because people want it to happen.
Removing the people who stupidly die because they were not carefull enough, or didn't seriously evaluate risks, you only have PVP where the 2 sides wanted it.
That point aside, removing gates and stations would be the most idiotic thing ever... Because there wouldn't be PVP at natural waypoints, and pve players would not have place to hide, since they would be probed in space,it would really become a true gankfest...
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EVE is like real life, it's unforgiving, harsh and only the people who are willing to take risks will get anywhere. As for ganking, yes it does happen. But if you carrying expensive cargo in a frigate or industrial ship, even I would kill you. Just for been stupid. If you want a safe game, then EVE is not for you.
I must also add that in all my time in EVE, I haven't looked at a spread sheet. So I have no idea why anybody would want to. But I guess that's geeks for you, they've just got to take it to the next level.