Tired of the sameness of the newer MMOs. I am back in DAOC and EQ both after 10 years. Played WOW on and off since release and feel I wasted time and money. Played Rift in beta and will not purchase it. Aside from Eq and Daoc I am playing and enjoying Uncharted Waters Online. I am now happy in the fact SOE is re releasing EQ on the Flippy Darkpaw server!
Yes, I have played both and can safely say Rift is the way to go. I have seen some complaints (mostly from those who are looking for a Wow clone! Ha-ha) and can say that I had a blast playing the Rift beta. And I will have a blast playing beta 7 too. If you play looking for Wow and don't like it, just go back to WoW!! Lol. Very simple.
Tired of the sameness of the newer MMOs. I am back in DAOC and EQ both after 10 years. Played WOW on and off since release and feel I wasted time and money. Played Rift in beta and will not purchase it. I am now happy in the fact SOE is re releasing EQ on the Flippy Darkpaw server!
Sameness? You obviously did not play Rift for long. There are some major differences between Rift and Wow. One big difference for me is that I actually had fun playing the Rift beta. Have not had that with Wow for a long time.
Rift is the adult version of World of Warcraft. I played in Warcraft's lands for long enuff. Moving on to a little more sophistication and a little less reference to our current time period.
Examples in WoW that boggle the mind are motorcycles and modern day references within certain elements of the game.
All I can say is that Blizzard better release Titan in the next 2 years and Diablo 3 within the next year or thier revenue streams will start drying up.
Don't get me wrong. There will still be alot of subscribers to WoW...especially the young gamers from 9 to 15 but we will start seeing a move in this next year starting with Rift and then the Star Wars MMO and then Guildwars 2. Suddenly Blizzard's subscriptions will be about half of what they are. Servers will probably merge and guilds will fall apart from lack of members.
It was Rome in it's greatest hour, but even Rome fell to the test of time.
Rift is the adult version of World of Warcraft. I played in Warcraft's lands for long enuff. Moving on to a little more sophistication and a little less reference to our current time period.
Examples in WoW that boggle the mind are motorcycles and modern day references within certain elements of the game.
All I can say is that Blizzard better release Titan in the next 2 years and Diablo 3 within the next year or thier revenue streams will start drying up.
Don't get me wrong. There will still be alot of subscribers to WoW...especially the young gamers from 9 to 15 but we will start seeing a move in this next year starting with Rift and then the Star Wars MMO and then Guildwars 2. Suddenly Blizzard's subscriptions will be about half of what they are. Servers will probably merge and guilds will fall apart from lack of members.
It was Rome in it's greatest hour, but even Rome fell to the test of time.
Long Live Rift!!!!
I agree on rift but no their revenue wil ls tay the same and even increase.
moved my edit (regards some replies in the thread):
No interest in the EQ relaunch, been there, done it, and they seem to have screwed it up somewhat anyway....Now if they went back to square 1 and developed new content....I would seriously consider it. Everyone knows the strats, where things are, what stats do what...ect....When EQ launched the charm was they didn't tell you this stuff and you had to figure it all out....They put teleporters in where they weren't before, like OOT, and some other things. It's not a true throwback.
UO relaunch, I would be very interested in....Since it is more of a sandbox.
MY favorite games are:
1. UO
2. EQ
3. DAoC
4. VG
5. SWG
I would consider playing any of those 5 again, given certain conditions:
UO - throwback, or even a hybrid, but it all stays open pvp, I am not a big pvper, but I like the option, danger, and believe it or not, people are more free to be a jerk when you can't kill them.
EQ - relaunch, new content that mirrors the type of content, before LDoN style instances and such.
DAoC - relaunch, with some combat tweaks, less boting and such.
VG - more than 0.5 devs, and money being put into it, and a relaunch/pvp server with support.
SWG - Pre CU, with changes that should of went in, like some balancing, and more content that fit the theme of the game, not instanced wookie world junk, cus, and nges....
I doubt any of that is ever gonna happen, and my 1.5 years of not actively playing any game a lot hasn't changed my mind. Rift isn't my ideal game, but imo about everything out now sucks, and anything along the lines of the features I like sucks imo. So gonna play Rift and maybe ill have some fun, and who knows, maybe something along the lines of what i like will come out. GW2 - lot of hype, I need to be shown, and I am weary of cash shop, swtor - fearful of rails on rails, dont like voice over quests, instances, ect... Arch Age seems interesting, but again, show me... I wish Sony would sell Vanguard to someone willing to put time/money into it (since they won't, they promised a relaunch, and it never happend, only a launch of devs from the game).
As to WoW...that train has come and gone, didn't like it when it was new, and sure its probably as good as any of the newer stuff, but from many years of gaming, games seem to get bloated and stale....It happend to EQ, and from what I can see from peoples posts, its happend to a lot of people in WoW. People want to leave, but not enough friends are willing to go with them, due to time put into the game. Its hard to leave something that you have put in years of playing and so much work. I had a hard time leaving EQ for a while, but it just kept becoming less and less of the game I liked/loved....Got tired of my gear being obsoleted, and having to grind for new gear, in in stanced dungeons, and play a style of play that I disliked...I think instances make a game feel more and more like some old rpgs that you could connect with 1-5 more people and play...not 'massive multiplayer online' games.
If I never played WoW before, would Rift be a better option?
WoW has a free trial.
It's worth looking at. At the very least, you will have at least some idea of what people are talking about when they reference WoW. It's an important game in terms of mmorpg development and history whether you enjoy playing it or not.
Played Wow from the day it launched until they pushed the release date of Burning Crusade to the next year. Came back about four months after BC had launched and played about two months. Came back to the game again with the launch of WOTLK. Stayed just long enough to get my seriously overpowerd DK to 80 then bailed once again. At the request of a real life friend I signed up again for Wow about three weeks before 4.0.1 hit live servers. Got lucky and got into the Cataclysm beta after the first week back. Decided Cat was not for me by the time my first month was up. Not only was Catclysm the same old "bleep" it was actually LESS of the same old "bleep" for 40 bucks American.
Long story short, Wow has moved the game into a direction that is not at all fun for me. To be completely honest Blizzard started pushing me away when they moved most PVP to instanced BGs and then totally killed the game for me the day they gave the annoying duel whores the Arena. After that it was all down hill.
So while at the basic level Rift may not break much new ground, it currently manages to avoid the annoying pitfalls that destoyed my enchantment with Wow. I wish it a long and happy life whether I'm playing it or not, as Blizzard needs all the competition that the industry can throw at it.
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If I never played WoW before, would Rift be a better option?
That is kind of where I am, I wouldn't play WoW before, because I did not like that style of game, and it was a continuation (clone seems to be the in-word) of where EQ was heading. I didn't like the direction, and was not a fan of instances, so only did the beta for WoW.
I think older games have a lot of dead/obsolete areas in them, and lose context and such....So for me Rift is the better option, its not my dream game, but it has some nice things, and the soul system is interesting, and I hope they have some nice world pvp, but it could honestly go either way, some good concepts, and with work or a expansion, it could be outstanding.
So my advice would be to play a newer game, but you can trial both, WoW has like a 14 day free trial, and rift has a 6 day open beta coming up, try them both out, besides the clone talk, they have different feels, look different and such....Only you can probably answer your question.
If I never played WoW before, would Rift be a better option?
Of course. Because if you were a brand new WoW player, while you would definitely enjoy the random dungeon finder (game saver really), you would find the rest of the world, even on saturated servers, to be strangely empty. Granted, WoW is really built these days for retention, not for new players, which is why you see so many players in epic leveling gear while you, as a new player, feel terribly isolated and outgunned.
Now, on top of those lonely soloing adventures when you can't get in a random dungeon after 2-3 hours because you chose to NOT play a tank lol, you have 85 levels to contend with, which means you have to buy:
Vanilla WoW - 1-60
Burning Crusade - 60-70
Wrath of the Lich King 70-80
And finally, Cataclysm 80-85
While people will counter me and state, "It's so easy to level in WoW..." those are those level 85s with epic alt gear talking to you (I know because I am one of them lol).
I'm moving to Rifts. WoW was sold initially as a battle siege warfare going to be mmorpg, hence the title, WARcraft. It is however a pve grind fest with dummed down play and classes that literally mirror each other across both realms where the differences in race are moreso fluff than anything. On top of that, I blame WoW for having the money to be a next gen mmorpg, that instead went the route of Theme Park with their endless grind dungeons and processed Battlegrounds with a capture the flag or take and hold mentality that has literally raped the imagination of the warfare concept of fantasy mmorpgs. Who doesn't have an instanced battle ground in a big money title these days?
WoW had its moment of glory, I am ready for something more grown up, however, and Rifts seems to have the more adult look to it. While it is sadly just another 2 faction model mmorpg, and not a courageous brilliant creation like the 3 faction Dark Age of Camelot was, Dark Age has been forgotten and runs a heavy single server where the remaining scraps of the game are fought over by hackers and xrealmers. Hence, Rifts is it.
All I can say is that Blizzard better release Titan in the next 2 years and Diablo 3 within the next year or thier revenue streams will start drying up.
Don't get me wrong. There will still be alot of subscribers to WoW...especially the young gamers from 9 to 15 but we will start seeing a move in this next year starting with Rift and then the Star Wars MMO and then Guildwars 2. Suddenly Blizzard's subscriptions will be about half of what they are. Servers will probably merge and guilds will fall apart from lack of members.
It was Rome in it's greatest hour, but even Rome fell to the test of time.
if they havent fallen after 6 years of leading the race, they wont fall for another long time as long as they keep the good job... im not saying they will keep being the leaders on the mmo industry, but you sound truly sure you know that WoW will almost die when rift release..... sorry but not gonna happen.... yeah Rift has the strength to be very successful, that doesnt mean WoW would die or have subs cut in half.... only time will answer that...... me personally am waiting for GW2 to move there and stay there
The thread isnt about GW2.. its about choosing Rift or WoW..
At this point I choose Rift,its fresh and new.Where as WoW,Ive put enough years in it to where I just dont have the urge to play it anymore.
If you were new to both games,either one would treat you well I believe.Its not that hard to get up to pace in WoW and there are people everywhere,even in the noob areas.
Choosing Rift,it goes without saying,you'll be starting with everyone else.
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Tired of the sameness of the newer MMOs.
I am back in DAOC and EQ both after 10 years. Played WOW on and off since release and feel I wasted time and money. Played Rift in beta and will not purchase it. Aside from Eq and Daoc I am playing and enjoying Uncharted Waters Online. I am now happy in the fact SOE is re releasing EQ on the Flippy Darkpaw server!
Yes, I have played both and can safely say Rift is the way to go. I have seen some complaints (mostly from those who are looking for a Wow clone! Ha-ha) and can say that I had a blast playing the Rift beta. And I will have a blast playing beta 7 too. If you play looking for Wow and don't like it, just go back to WoW!! Lol. Very simple.
Wheres the, never subbed WoW (only played beta so no account to go back to), but gonna try Rift option?
DAOC 2 would be awesome!
Daoc 2 would most definatly be awesome. Also a resurection of Ultima X.
Sameness? You obviously did not play Rift for long. There are some major differences between Rift and Wow. One big difference for me is that I actually had fun playing the Rift beta. Have not had that with Wow for a long time.
Rift is the adult version of World of Warcraft. I played in Warcraft's lands for long enuff. Moving on to a little more sophistication and a little less reference to our current time period.
Examples in WoW that boggle the mind are motorcycles and modern day references within certain elements of the game.
All I can say is that Blizzard better release Titan in the next 2 years and Diablo 3 within the next year or thier revenue streams will start drying up.
Don't get me wrong. There will still be alot of subscribers to WoW...especially the young gamers from 9 to 15 but we will start seeing a move in this next year starting with Rift and then the Star Wars MMO and then Guildwars 2. Suddenly Blizzard's subscriptions will be about half of what they are. Servers will probably merge and guilds will fall apart from lack of members.
It was Rome in it's greatest hour, but even Rome fell to the test of time.
Long Live Rift!!!!
There is no such option because the poll is intended for people who have played both the Rift beta and WoW Cata, as indicated in the original post.
I agree on rift but no their revenue wil ls tay the same and even increase.
Rift for the wife and I, two kids are staying in day care err WoW.
Well, I've played both and though I've enjoyed my brief times in WoW since launch I have to say that I prefer Rift.
WoW is too Kitchy and tongue in cheek for my taste. It also feels a bit dull.
I've had more fun in Rift than most of my time in WoW.
As far as what you should play? How could I say? I don't know what you like, what you find inspiring or fun.
I say try it and see.
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This was a decent poll. Straight and to the point. Good job!
A question:
If I never played WoW before, would Rift be a better option?
How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.
I took it as which would you rather play...
moved my edit (regards some replies in the thread):
No interest in the EQ relaunch, been there, done it, and they seem to have screwed it up somewhat anyway....Now if they went back to square 1 and developed new content....I would seriously consider it. Everyone knows the strats, where things are, what stats do what...ect....When EQ launched the charm was they didn't tell you this stuff and you had to figure it all out....They put teleporters in where they weren't before, like OOT, and some other things. It's not a true throwback.
UO relaunch, I would be very interested in....Since it is more of a sandbox.
MY favorite games are:
1. UO
2. EQ
3. DAoC
4. VG
5. SWG
I would consider playing any of those 5 again, given certain conditions:
UO - throwback, or even a hybrid, but it all stays open pvp, I am not a big pvper, but I like the option, danger, and believe it or not, people are more free to be a jerk when you can't kill them.
EQ - relaunch, new content that mirrors the type of content, before LDoN style instances and such.
DAoC - relaunch, with some combat tweaks, less boting and such.
VG - more than 0.5 devs, and money being put into it, and a relaunch/pvp server with support.
SWG - Pre CU, with changes that should of went in, like some balancing, and more content that fit the theme of the game, not instanced wookie world junk, cus, and nges....
I doubt any of that is ever gonna happen, and my 1.5 years of not actively playing any game a lot hasn't changed my mind. Rift isn't my ideal game, but imo about everything out now sucks, and anything along the lines of the features I like sucks imo. So gonna play Rift and maybe ill have some fun, and who knows, maybe something along the lines of what i like will come out. GW2 - lot of hype, I need to be shown, and I am weary of cash shop, swtor - fearful of rails on rails, dont like voice over quests, instances, ect... Arch Age seems interesting, but again, show me... I wish Sony would sell Vanguard to someone willing to put time/money into it (since they won't, they promised a relaunch, and it never happend, only a launch of devs from the game).
As to WoW...that train has come and gone, didn't like it when it was new, and sure its probably as good as any of the newer stuff, but from many years of gaming, games seem to get bloated and stale....It happend to EQ, and from what I can see from peoples posts, its happend to a lot of people in WoW. People want to leave, but not enough friends are willing to go with them, due to time put into the game. Its hard to leave something that you have put in years of playing and so much work. I had a hard time leaving EQ for a while, but it just kept becoming less and less of the game I liked/loved....Got tired of my gear being obsoleted, and having to grind for new gear, in in stanced dungeons, and play a style of play that I disliked...I think instances make a game feel more and more like some old rpgs that you could connect with 1-5 more people and play...not 'massive multiplayer online' games.
WoW has a free trial.
It's worth looking at. At the very least, you will have at least some idea of what people are talking about when they reference WoW. It's an important game in terms of mmorpg development and history whether you enjoy playing it or not.
Played Wow from the day it launched until they pushed the release date of Burning Crusade to the next year. Came back about four months after BC had launched and played about two months. Came back to the game again with the launch of WOTLK. Stayed just long enough to get my seriously overpowerd DK to 80 then bailed once again. At the request of a real life friend I signed up again for Wow about three weeks before 4.0.1 hit live servers. Got lucky and got into the Cataclysm beta after the first week back. Decided Cat was not for me by the time my first month was up. Not only was Catclysm the same old "bleep" it was actually LESS of the same old "bleep" for 40 bucks American.
Long story short, Wow has moved the game into a direction that is not at all fun for me. To be completely honest Blizzard started pushing me away when they moved most PVP to instanced BGs and then totally killed the game for me the day they gave the annoying duel whores the Arena. After that it was all down hill.
So while at the basic level Rift may not break much new ground, it currently manages to avoid the annoying pitfalls that destoyed my enchantment with Wow. I wish it a long and happy life whether I'm playing it or not, as Blizzard needs all the competition that the industry can throw at it.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
That is kind of where I am, I wouldn't play WoW before, because I did not like that style of game, and it was a continuation (clone seems to be the in-word) of where EQ was heading. I didn't like the direction, and was not a fan of instances, so only did the beta for WoW.
I think older games have a lot of dead/obsolete areas in them, and lose context and such....So for me Rift is the better option, its not my dream game, but it has some nice things, and the soul system is interesting, and I hope they have some nice world pvp, but it could honestly go either way, some good concepts, and with work or a expansion, it could be outstanding.
So my advice would be to play a newer game, but you can trial both, WoW has like a 14 day free trial, and rift has a 6 day open beta coming up, try them both out, besides the clone talk, they have different feels, look different and such....Only you can probably answer your question.
Of course. Because if you were a brand new WoW player, while you would definitely enjoy the random dungeon finder (game saver really), you would find the rest of the world, even on saturated servers, to be strangely empty. Granted, WoW is really built these days for retention, not for new players, which is why you see so many players in epic leveling gear while you, as a new player, feel terribly isolated and outgunned.
Now, on top of those lonely soloing adventures when you can't get in a random dungeon after 2-3 hours because you chose to NOT play a tank lol, you have 85 levels to contend with, which means you have to buy:
Vanilla WoW - 1-60
Burning Crusade - 60-70
Wrath of the Lich King 70-80
And finally, Cataclysm 80-85
While people will counter me and state, "It's so easy to level in WoW..." those are those level 85s with epic alt gear talking to you (I know because I am one of them lol).
I'm moving to Rifts. WoW was sold initially as a battle siege warfare going to be mmorpg, hence the title, WARcraft. It is however a pve grind fest with dummed down play and classes that literally mirror each other across both realms where the differences in race are moreso fluff than anything. On top of that, I blame WoW for having the money to be a next gen mmorpg, that instead went the route of Theme Park with their endless grind dungeons and processed Battlegrounds with a capture the flag or take and hold mentality that has literally raped the imagination of the warfare concept of fantasy mmorpgs. Who doesn't have an instanced battle ground in a big money title these days?
WoW had its moment of glory, I am ready for something more grown up, however, and Rifts seems to have the more adult look to it. While it is sadly just another 2 faction model mmorpg, and not a courageous brilliant creation like the 3 faction Dark Age of Camelot was, Dark Age has been forgotten and runs a heavy single server where the remaining scraps of the game are fought over by hackers and xrealmers. Hence, Rifts is it.
/my 2 cents.
RIFT POWER!!!!
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Waiting On: Nothing. Mmorpg's are dead.
if they havent fallen after 6 years of leading the race, they wont fall for another long time as long as they keep the good job... im not saying they will keep being the leaders on the mmo industry, but you sound truly sure you know that WoW will almost die when rift release..... sorry but not gonna happen.... yeah Rift has the strength to be very successful, that doesnt mean WoW would die or have subs cut in half.... only time will answer that...... me personally am waiting for GW2 to move there and stay there
i pick GW2
I doubt it. All the devs that made DaoC awesome back in the day are long gone.
The thread isnt about GW2.. its about choosing Rift or WoW..
At this point I choose Rift,its fresh and new.Where as WoW,Ive put enough years in it to where I just dont have the urge to play it anymore.
If you were new to both games,either one would treat you well I believe.Its not that hard to get up to pace in WoW and there are people everywhere,even in the noob areas.
Choosing Rift,it goes without saying,you'll be starting with everyone else.
My choice is the "I'm still undecided about Rift but will not go back to WoW in any event"
Where's the "i never really played WoW" option? Unless level 7 counts.