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Looking for self-sustaining class choice
Hi all,
Im looking for a self sustaining class - preferably one that can take a beating and perhaps give some self heals (other heals are ok too)
As a bit of background, I leveled all 4 classes to 14+ to experience the new souls, thinking it would help me narrow down my choices. Unfortunately, I think I made it worse 
So many choices and the game really opens up at that point for every class. I love what Trion has done but for an altaholic like me it makes it tough to pick just one class to roll with.
So far, I've really enjoyed the Bard, Chloromancer/Necro, Riftblade/Pally and to a lesser extent the Cleric souls. For some reason, it doesn't really pick my playstyle though Im probably most progressed with that char, ironically enough...
To recap, noob looking for class that can take some hits, tank/dps/spot heal/support and can take some punishment.
Suggestions? From what I know - I think Pally might fit the description, Bards are sure great with their buffs and if I can't find something I enjoy more will likely be what I roll with. Just not pleased with their survivability as much as I am their group heals/buffs (likely cause they aren't meant to be OP 1 button Iwin class)
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I say try a cleric with INQUISITOR as main soul plus SENTINEL and WARDEN for healing.
You won't have any trouble in PVE and in PVP 1v1 you're deadly, but when you get ganked by more than one enemy players you won't be able to survive with this build.
I've gone with Necromancer/Warlock/Chloromancer, you can use your pet to tank and dish out some DPS while you focus on damage, never runs out of mana once you get a few points in the Necro tree and can handle 3 mobs your own level fairly easily, for PvP I have no idea. I only put points in the Warlock tree for the faster charge. Focus on Necro with some points in Chloro for added heals and group support.
My warrior started off slow, but at level 28 I respeced my souls to paragon/reaver/riftblade, with most of the points in reaver, and I can kill 2 equal level mobs and finish at 90% health (from the healing ability of reaver). For solo mobs I can take out mobs that are 2 levels higher than me and end at 100% health.
Add to that the fact you can take mining/armorsmith/weaponsmith (although I'm currently doing mining/weaponsmithing/runecrafting) and gear yourself out, and it makes it a well rounded class to play.
/Oscarian
THis is my build here too, and yeah you have no issue in PvE ever, honestly people just kind of look at you in awe when you jump in on a rift with it. You basically steal the show alot with what you dish out and can take in PvE. That being said though, if they dont give you a chance you can't show them what you can do. There is still a very large population out there who think a DPS cleric has to be crap and will over look you in a heartbeat for someone less capable just because they say mage. If they are willing to let you on the team for whatever the dungeon is, most times you will be asked back every chance they can after that. Once they witness it first hand.
PvP, can 1vs1 on just about anyone with one exception - lifeleech. Its deadly and your heals or shield on this build will not sustain you while putting out DPS when they have a lifeleech on you. Also if you get focused by more than one its pretty much the same deal, unless...unless they are all in tight on you, then your PbAOE can destroy far more than they will ever expect. Sure your going to go down, but the more on you the more damage you put out. Taking 4 or 5 with you is always a good trade off if you ask me.
Try Assassin or Nightblade for damage combined with rift stalker and bard for support
A necro can tank with the knight pet, just make sure you save your charge for heals. I've been able to solo mostly to 21 easily, and use my pet to tank in some rifts.
I think the games boring as hell but i did test the game right up to level 42 in beta. I done all content on both faction with trying many souls and set ups. I have also done all instances and warfronts content up to level 42.
From Iron Tombs to Fae to DD-DM to Foul Cascade then on to Kings Breech and finishing on Runic Decent. I farmed the instance content more times than i can count.
The one set up that can take on any soul one on one and always win if played right is Shammy/Sential/Warden with most points going into shammy.
Belive me, you will only need to group for instances because you really are a solo powerhouse and very hard to kill in PVP unless you are gang attacked.
There are so many choice that it will blow your mind:)
ranger/markmen/bard
Ranger/markmen/assassin
Riftstalker/bladedancer/bar
Caba/Purifier/druid
Champ/beastmaster/W.
But if you have 2 different roles and switch accoding to sittuation helps alot
. In beta I had Markmen/assassin/ranger for quest and some random enemies and a Bard/ranger for Rifts and stronger enemies and fast traveling:)
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He is right, also a Shaman/Justicar/Warden destroys all also, and not only does this combo benefit yourself with good healing, but everyone around you, as Justicar and Warden both have an AoE Heal.
Justicar - High AoE Burst Heal
Warden - High AoE HoT
Shaman - Brings the pain
Shaman has to be the primary soul though with most points going into your attacks.
I'll give my vote for this. Don't know about paragon as the last but reaver&rift with most to reaver just OWNS. I played up to 42. If you have your cooldowns, which aren't long like, 2 minutes you can even take on 4 equal level mobs without any downtime after. The fact that you get aoe dots on everything you fight and each enemy gives you healing, it was to my experience better to do 3 enemies or over than less.
This build on the other had sucked in pvp hard imo. You have really no CC or burst. But for leveling&pve purposes: the best choice.
To the OP...
None,all, take your pick and have fun!
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Sorry, although that would be nice in an ideal world it's not true. Their are certain souls setups that own all others in pvp and soloing.
On the Cleric side, Shaman/Druid/Warden, is a great solo build, I favor putting most of the points into Druid but common wisdom says put most your points into Shaman and respec to Druid once you can get enough points for the Satyr pet. (30 or so however you'll still want some in Druid at same time so prob not until lvl 25 or so.
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Thanks for all the great comments everyone!
Im leaning towards leveling up my Cleric (Shaman+Healers) or the Warrior (Reaver + Riftblade). Does the Warrior have decent self healing? I think that's probably one of the more important aspects for me. I know the Reaver can dot up a ton of mobs and stay alive - but what about for 1-1 or 1-2?
Also - I PVP quite a bit in most games, only done about 20 warfronts so far but I enjoy them lots... do these builds stand up well in WFs? Primarily that'll be my focus, as well as rifting/invasions
Appreciate all the great replies - thank you all!
I ran as a justicar/shaman/druid during beta six. Didnt get exceedinly high only high teens. 0 root Druid abiltie gives you a pet that can heal you for a minor amount, (turn off its dot attack and it will just stick to healing you.) Shaman 0 root ability gives you a passive +water damage to melee attacks. Justicar gets a self heal, an AoE group heal, and a shield attack ability that also buffs your block by a certain percentage. All of these run off doctrines which is a stacking buff up to four which consisting proc off successful melee attacks. Which the heals and sheild attack use in addition to a minor bit of mana. Justicar also gets a passive +heal chance to their melee attacks as well.
While not a high damage, 90% of your attacks are melee, with one or two ranged abilites. Jusiticar is the tank soul for the cleric and if I was going to play rift long term probably would have been one of my primary roles.
Bard/Ranger/Nightblade. You'll be amazed at what you can solo, and the impact you have in a group.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
I admit - I really liked the bard as well especially in group settings (WFs, instances, etc) but I didn't find I had good survivalbility. If anyone actually paid attention to me - I was dead in a heartbeat.
I was hoping to try something that can tank a little better - though it doesn't need to be a main spec tank, just something that can self heal and do decent dps/utility. Really leaning towards Justicar or the Riftblade/Reaver combo... as I think those based on your guys' description is what Im looking for.
That Champion/Beastmaster and W? looks like something the OP and mysellf would like...but not sure what "W" is.
I saw somewhere in a post that Beastmaster can kick butt and I know Champion is also DPS. I think the "W" is for Warlord? If so, that would be your buffing and whatever Warlords do.
I don't have the game and if I did, I wouldn't be able to play it here......
Correction, there are certain soul setups that people BELIEVE own all others in pvp and soloing. Almost all of them can with the correct spec placed on them. Not to mention no matter the soul setup there are some players who still couldnt survive a 1vs1 situation. No, sorry, your assumption is wrong. Scorp1us is actually correct on this one.
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Honestly I feel its a bit of both... some classes - say an Archon or a Warlord don't make great primary specs but are fantastic secondary/third specs. I believe that's what NightAngel was saying - more or less.
That being said - as I mentioned in the OP I am more looking for something with very high survivability, leading me to the Cleric and Warrior (I think). I've seen some really tough Chloromancer healers though who can survive very well. I want something I can take on multiple mobs but not be useless in PVP (IE: Self healing/high dmg). Im leaning towards Warrior right now but Cleric has some interesting soul prospects (Shaman, Justicar and all the healing ofc)
And when you get to 50, doing tier raids, that warlord primary spec you dont think is very fantastic will be the very class you wish you had on your raid with you. There is more to this game than 1vs1 PvP. And yes, the OP was looking for a sustainable, survivable solo class, and any and all are viable. Stop thinking primary souls with maximum points in only one tree and start thinking hybrid with equal levels in all 3 and you might just see what I am talking about. Being narrow minded and believing only one thing is possible is exactly how NightAngel made that inccorect assumption.
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Fair enough - but for at least the purposes of leveling - going full Warlord probably wouldn't be all that recommended.
Since you know lots about the topic - what is your advice for the original topic? What class do you feel is most sustainable?
That's what Ranger is for. You'll be amazed what you can have your Razorbeast tank for you. Make sure to put enough points in Ranger to pick up the pet heal. You'll also have to pick up the healing branch abilities in Bard as you go. But if you're looking for a spec that is strong solo, I have yet to see anyone use anything that could do better, from any archetype.
As a bonus, you can have another role with a perma-stealth build, letting you sneak in wherever you want to before setting up shop to take out whatever you need to.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
For PVE that's very true - it can tank pretty well and I've actually gone that route myself. I was more thinking from a PVP point of view, going Ranger for the Razor is only an annoyance to the enemy. Just from what I've seen, maybe that changes the higher level you get.
My Necromancer / WArlock / Dominator does such an excellent job for survival. I have wonderful DoT's as well as good croud control. I can switch from my DPS pet or Tank Pet depending on the situation. I can easily take on 3 -4 mobs at a time, with my level. I am extremly suprised with the damage I get over time. However, I'm not sure how this will work well with PvP. I know people are amazed at how useful in a Raid I am. I love the buff removal spell I have as well as all my DoT's. I never played a Necro in other games but this is a class that just does so well with PvE. I easilt out DPS most people my level.. That being said, my DPS is over time, I don't crit for a huge amount, but I very quickly add up the damage over time.