I agree, I played on the China servers up to about lvl35ish & it was a great deal of fun & it was mostly due to the community. Aion wasn't all that boring imo until the higher levels & it took a day of grinding the same mob to get a level. The pvp wasn't that spectacular either. Being an assasin wasn't a whole lot of fun in the abyss when the animation required me to be right on top of my target to do an attack.
Aion was really fun when it first launched. rifting was awesome and new, the lower level questing was fun, the flying was very cool, even the abyss was a blast.
then they implemented level 30 gold gear.......and it all went to hell.
nothing but twinks running arround ganking pretty much everyone even 10 levels higher then them.
gear disparity in this game it's just insane. skill has almost nothing to do with pvp in this game, it's pretty much all gear. those that grind the most get the best gear and completely own everyone else. this only gets worse at end level.
I have seen less geared but better players beat better geared ppl in pvp. If you dont like being killed in solo ( not you personally jakstripper) in games and belive you need to win every fight (i am reading the same stuff about rift) then no you wont like it. The better fun is in group pvp with good tactics. Now ofc if there is a group with full lvl 55 gold pvp gear and a group with full green noob, then its a different story, same in any pvp game. But if your gear is half decent and you play well, then your group can win,
DAOC wasn't until Atlantis and that is what many regard to be the greatest PVP game ever. Gear should make a small difference and still be something to strive for but AION got this hopelessly wrong there is a very slim chance a group of casual players no matter how skilled can beat facerolling no lifes in there +10 50 AP gear and this will only get worse 2.5 when 55 eternal AP is introduced.
These are your options when you hit that point.
1. Grind for fenri's for what is months for a casual player and then pray to the RNG gods, to still be worse off than AP geared people.
2. Grind for months longer than fenri's would take to get your AP.
3. Grind Besh etc for months for the post fenri's PVE set that isnt as good as fenris oh and spend 20m ish in the process.
4. Craft a set of Balaur armour again months and months to get the mats again not as good as AP.
5. Give up on PVP altogether and be left with what is a very shallow PVE game where you will still get rifted on by those no lifes.
6. Quit and face it NCSoft screwed the pooch badly by putting so much requirement to gear in what is supposedly a PVP game.
I took option 6 I took another look during this reactivation week and didnt instantly log out as I would with other MMO's I still love aspects of it I then took 1 look at my pathetic 2k AP, 1 look at the AP costs of decent AP armour and then saw that I only had 7 of the 30 pandamonium tokens for the 3rd fenri's piece and still had the HOHM part to come.
Being ganked in the Abyss didnt bother me, being rifted on didnt bother me hell its that rush I bought the game for.
I'm all for working for better gear but with a family and perhaps 2 hours a night to play I simply cant be bothered with spending the next year of dullness just to compete in the one thing I originally bought the game for.
By my figures It would take me a month just to finish up stage 3 of fenri's with 1 lannok run a day gods of PUG permitting. Stage 4 could take me anywhere from 1-4 month depending on RNG and I honestly couldnt tell you what stage 5 involves I've long forgotten. So 3-5 month on top of what was already a 7 month investment by a casual player just to be able to compete.
On another note I enjoyed the Aion journey so once I have finished DA2 and DIvinity 2 then I may well resub and start a Gladiator and take that through till you hit that wall.
Can I ask at what level did you quit?
I also started from launch but quit 2-3 months later.
If im not wrong.. Fenrils and Lvl 50 gold AP sets were the most elite of course. To get them you have to really invest time, lots of grinding and RNG. Most of the top pvp-ers would go and grind in the abyss for fear of dying after reaching certain amounts of AP.
If you have only 2 hours a day, why not do dark poeta runs? at least you can get 2nd best items.. or if your lucky enough to get into a good guild, you may farm world bosses.
I quit cos when menotios's greatsword dropped, the guild leader gave it to his friend even though I had higher DKP. Still ok nevermind I went to sleep and next day I found out Zapiel's spear dropped and I wasnt there.....
Aion was really fun when it first launched. rifting was awesome and new, the lower level questing was fun, the flying was very cool, even the abyss was a blast.
then they implemented level 30 gold gear.......and it all went to hell.
nothing but twinks running arround ganking pretty much everyone even 10 levels higher then them.
gear disparity in this game it's just insane. skill has almost nothing to do with pvp in this game, it's pretty much all gear. those that grind the most get the best gear and completely own everyone else. this only gets worse at end level.
I have seen less geared but better players beat better geared ppl in pvp. If you dont like being killed in solo ( not you personally jakstripper) in games and belive you need to win every fight (i am reading the same stuff about rift) then no you wont like it. The better fun is in group pvp with good tactics. Now ofc if there is a group with full lvl 55 gold pvp gear and a group with full green noob, then its a different story, same in any pvp game. But if your gear is half decent and you play well, then your group can win,
DAOC wasn't until Atlantis and that is what many regard to be the greatest PVP game ever. Gear should make a small difference and still be something to strive for but AION got this hopelessly wrong there is a very slim chance a group of casual players no matter how skilled can beat facerolling no lifes in there +10 50 AP gear and this will only get worse 2.5 when 55 eternal AP is introduced.
These are your options when you hit that point.
1. Grind for fenri's for what is months for a casual player and then pray to the RNG gods, to still be worse off than AP geared people.
2. Grind for months longer than fenri's would take to get your AP.
3. Grind Besh etc for months for the post fenri's PVE set that isnt as good as fenris oh and spend 20m ish in the process.
4. Craft a set of Balaur armour again months and months to get the mats again not as good as AP.
5. Give up on PVP altogether and be left with what is a very shallow PVE game where you will still get rifted on by those no lifes.
6. Quit and face it NCSoft screwed the pooch badly by putting so much requirement to gear in what is supposedly a PVP game.
I took option 6 I took another look during this reactivation week and didnt instantly log out as I would with other MMO's I still love aspects of it I then took 1 look at my pathetic 2k AP, 1 look at the AP costs of decent AP armour and then saw that I only had 7 of the 30 pandamonium tokens for the 3rd fenri's piece and still had the HOHM part to come.
Being ganked in the Abyss didnt bother me, being rifted on didnt bother me hell its that rush I bought the game for.
I'm all for working for better gear but with a family and perhaps 2 hours a night to play I simply cant be bothered with spending the next year of dullness just to compete in the one thing I originally bought the game for.
By my figures It would take me a month just to finish up stage 3 of fenri's with 1 lannok run a day gods of PUG permitting. Stage 4 could take me anywhere from 1-4 month depending on RNG and I honestly couldnt tell you what stage 5 involves I've long forgotten. So 3-5 month on top of what was already a 7 month investment by a casual player just to be able to compete.
On another note I enjoyed the Aion journey so once I have finished DA2 and DIvinity 2 then I may well resub and start a Gladiator and take that through till you hit that wall.
Can I ask at what level did you quit?
I also started from launch but quit 2-3 months later.
If im not wrong.. Fenrils and Lvl 50 gold AP sets were the most elite of course. To get them you have to really invest time, lots of grinding and RNG. Most of the top pvp-ers would go and grind in the abyss for fear of dying after reaching certain amounts of AP.
If you have only 2 hours a day, why not do dark poeta runs? at least you can get 2nd best items.. or if your lucky enough to get into a good guild, you may farm world bosses.
I quit cos when menotios's greatsword dropped, the guild leader gave it to his friend even though I had higher DKP. Still ok nevermind I went to sleep and next day I found out Zapiel's spear dropped and I wasnt there.....
I personally ran DP every day for about 6-7 months. Even after 2.0, I went in with a friend sorc and we 2 manned the lake bosses. (I was a Chanter) I STILL NEVER saw my full set fall from there. Ever! I got 4/5 Anuhart. I found doing the Fenris quest line much easier, but yes, it pitted you in the Abyss where lots of times you'd get zerged by enemies or sometimes you just couldn't farm at all because they'd have a whole group out there farming the balaur. You had to stay Rank 9 also. But now, you can farm mobs in Beluslan at the bottom which was a little safer and easier to get the bloods you needed for the pants. To me, that was the hardest part of the whole quest line because of the random proc you needed in crafting.
You just had to be super determined is about it. It was boring as hell to farm those mobs but it was the easiest and best set in the game (PvE wise). For some classes, the set was even good for PvP. But the L40 PvP set was actually better for the average player. Why? It was the easiest to plus up. You could get +10 on each piece rather easily and that is what counted on the gear. A L40 +10 Set was way more powerful than a L50 +5 set. The cost of plusing up a L50 was outrageous so only rich people or people that had a means (guild) to farm dungeons every day did that. PvP gear was exceptionally good in PvE too. So 1 set usually was good enough to do both PvE and PvP but the PvP offered a greater advantage in combat than PvE (our PvE tank even in 55 dungeons only tanked in L40 pvp and did great), which is why in the progression of things, the L40 PvP set should be the first thing you worked on before trying Fenris. Least that was how it was back when I played.
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I agree, I played on the China servers up to about lvl35ish & it was a great deal of fun & it was mostly due to the community. Aion wasn't all that boring imo until the higher levels & it took a day of grinding the same mob to get a level. The pvp wasn't that spectacular either. Being an assasin wasn't a whole lot of fun in the abyss when the animation required me to be right on top of my target to do an attack.
Can I ask at what level did you quit?
I also started from launch but quit 2-3 months later.
If im not wrong.. Fenrils and Lvl 50 gold AP sets were the most elite of course. To get them you have to really invest time, lots of grinding and RNG. Most of the top pvp-ers would go and grind in the abyss for fear of dying after reaching certain amounts of AP.
If you have only 2 hours a day, why not do dark poeta runs? at least you can get 2nd best items.. or if your lucky enough to get into a good guild, you may farm world bosses.
I quit cos when menotios's greatsword dropped, the guild leader gave it to his friend even though I had higher DKP. Still ok nevermind I went to sleep and next day I found out Zapiel's spear dropped and I wasnt there.....
I personally ran DP every day for about 6-7 months. Even after 2.0, I went in with a friend sorc and we 2 manned the lake bosses. (I was a Chanter) I STILL NEVER saw my full set fall from there. Ever! I got 4/5 Anuhart. I found doing the Fenris quest line much easier, but yes, it pitted you in the Abyss where lots of times you'd get zerged by enemies or sometimes you just couldn't farm at all because they'd have a whole group out there farming the balaur. You had to stay Rank 9 also. But now, you can farm mobs in Beluslan at the bottom which was a little safer and easier to get the bloods you needed for the pants. To me, that was the hardest part of the whole quest line because of the random proc you needed in crafting.
You just had to be super determined is about it. It was boring as hell to farm those mobs but it was the easiest and best set in the game (PvE wise). For some classes, the set was even good for PvP. But the L40 PvP set was actually better for the average player. Why? It was the easiest to plus up. You could get +10 on each piece rather easily and that is what counted on the gear. A L40 +10 Set was way more powerful than a L50 +5 set. The cost of plusing up a L50 was outrageous so only rich people or people that had a means (guild) to farm dungeons every day did that. PvP gear was exceptionally good in PvE too. So 1 set usually was good enough to do both PvE and PvP but the PvP offered a greater advantage in combat than PvE (our PvE tank even in 55 dungeons only tanked in L40 pvp and did great), which is why in the progression of things, the L40 PvP set should be the first thing you worked on before trying Fenris. Least that was how it was back when I played.
Today however, it may be totally different.