probably been said several times but in principle its not much different than a terrorist group that attacks a target to force something to change to fit their particular view. they [hackers] do not help things and the Robin Hood of the movies never existed. They are in it for their own selfish reasons. if you think they are doing something for the "little guy" then you are sadly mistaken.
No, a lot of what hackers do is for the 'little guy'. However the little guy is not always right. Like the guy who hacked the playstation 3 that caused all this mess, he was not right and Sony had every right to go after him. Where they screwed up (and what really drew the ire of anonymous) is trying to go after the people that watched his video.
Amazing for all of you out there who are saying Anoymous had NOTHING to do with this even AnonOp's have admitted that an unsanctioned group from Anoymous may have been in on this. Holy cow unsanctioned sounds just like terrorists doesn't it?
One even admits seeing information on the vulnerablility that was used to hack Sony and guess what. It was another Anonymous group member who had it.
And if you don't want to take my word that they said it go here.
And if you all want to keep saying that what Anoymous does does not affect costumers think again. How is it that you think when they hacked Mastercard and Visa last year and caused a denial of service and no one could use their cards to shop online for almost an entire 24 hour period that it did not affect Mastercard and Visa's Custumers both?
Amazing for all of you out there who are saying Anoymous had NOTHING to do with this even AnonOp's have admitted that an unsanctioned group from Anoymous may have been in on this. Holy cow unsanctioned sounds just like terrorists doesn't it?
And if you don't want to take my word that they said it go here.
probably been said several times but in principle its not much different than a terrorist group that attacks a target to force something to change to fit their particular view. they [hackers] do not help things and the Robin Hood of the movies never existed. They are in it for their own selfish reasons. if you think they are doing something for the "little guy" then you are sadly mistaken.
No, a lot of what hackers do is for the 'little guy'. However the little guy is not always right. Like the guy who hacked the playstation 3 that caused all this mess, he was not right and Sony had every right to go after him. Where they screwed up (and what really drew the ire of anonymous) is trying to go after the people that watched his video.
Yeah right. They are standing up for the little guy are they? Then why are we suffering due to this?
DDOS attacks deliberately designed to disrupt my gaming experience because they think their right to do what they like (including illegal activities) is more important than my right to peacfully enjoy the service that I paid for. Stealing game ID's to destroy your characters, steal your gold and spam for dodgy and illegal gold seller sites.
And it is all for my own good as the little man?
No - thats simply a self deluded excuse from muppets that think we are stupid and gullible enough to buy that crock. Hackers are digital vandals pure and simple. Performing illegal acts, disrupting our services and acting like we should be thankful that they have screwed us over.
Amazing for all of you out there who are saying Anoymous had NOTHING to do with this even AnonOp's have admitted that an unsanctioned group from Anoymous may have been in on this. Holy cow unsanctioned sounds just like terrorists doesn't it?
One even admits seeing information on the vulnerablility that was used to hack Sony and guess what. It was another Anonymous group member who had it.
And if you don't want to take my word that they said it go here.
Yeah right. They are standing up for the little guy are they? Then why are we suffering due to this?
DDOS attacks deliberately designed to disrupt my gaming experience because they think their right to do what they like (including illegal activities) is more important than my right to peacfully enjoy the service that I paid for. Stealing game ID's to destroy your characters, steal your gold and spam for dodgy and illegal gold seller sites.
And it is all for my own good as the little man?
No - thats simply a self deluded excuse from muppets that think we are stupid and gullible enough to buy that crock. Hackers are digital vandals pure and simple. Performing illegal acts, disrupting our services and acting like we should be thankful that they have screwed us over.
Very well said. Not only have they affected Sony custumers, in the past they affected CC members from Visa and Mastercard both and the service that it provided to them through that company and for what? For them to say we're mad at you for not allowing people to buy through a company who is doing ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES in the first place but we're going to stand up for them anyway even though the reason your CC companies stopped allowing payments from them was because they did something illegal.
Yeah right. They are standing up for the little guy are they? Then why are we suffering due to this?
DDOS attacks deliberately designed to disrupt my gaming experience because they think their right to do what they like (including illegal activities) is more important than my right to peacfully enjoy the service that I paid for. Stealing game ID's to destroy your characters, steal your gold and spam for dodgy and illegal gold seller sites.
And it is all for my own good as the little man?
No - thats simply a self deluded excuse from muppets that think we are stupid and gullible enough to buy that crock. Hackers are digital vandals pure and simple. Performing illegal acts, disrupting our services and acting like we should be thankful that they have screwed us over.
Very well said. Not only have they affected Sony custumers, in the past they affected CC members from Visa and Mastercard both and the service that it provided to them through that company and for what? For them to say we're mad at you for not allowing people to buy through a company who is doing ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES in the first place but we're going to stand up for them anyway even though the reason your CC companies stopped allowing payments from them was because they did something illegal.
He is right and wrong. What groups like Anonymous do is clearly different than the people that hack for personal (monetary) gain. Anonyomous would not 'steal game IDs ro destory your characters, steal your gold and spam for dodgy and illegal gold selling sites'. if thats what this attack was about we would have known it int he 2.5 weeks between the hack and the server shut down.
No, Anonymous thinks they are morally right so thats why they do this. But, yes often so do terrorists. the Parallel is there. Not all of what Anonymous does is bad, but a ton of it is. Just because they might think its right doesnt mean it is.
Like I said, it might have been Anonymous, but the information doesn't support that. You really are grasping at straws here.
I mentioned SOE, because information surfaced from one of their databases. A 2001 sweepstakes if I recall right. Seems relevent enough to mention them in light of that, agree?
Really, the fact that Sony was already attacked by Anonymous and the fact that there was a file planted linking to Anonymous means Im grasping at straws? When you claim the information was for profit when there is no evidence of that at this time? Not saying its not a possibility, but I dont see any evidence that points to it.
And where has SoE been linked to the 2001 database? Every report I have seen says it is from a Sony product sweepstakes but does not pin it to which branch of Sony.
There's no grasping at straws. The name of the file found was "We are Legion" so either it was Anon or a hacker trying to frame Anon. If it was Sony trying to set Anon up the FBI would find out and run their ass over for tampering with evidence. If it really was Anon theft has never been their M.O. They stick to cyberterrorism. Which clearly this was a total success in that regard with how many people are jumping on the victim of their attack.
Amazing for all of you out there who are saying Anoymous had NOTHING to do with this even AnonOp's have admitted that an unsanctioned group from Anoymous may have been in on this. Holy cow unsanctioned sounds just like terrorists doesn't it?
One even admits seeing information on the vulnerablility that was used to hack Sony and guess what. It was another Anonymous group member who had it.
And if you don't want to take my word that they said it go here.
And if you all want to keep saying that what Anoymous does does not affect costumers think again. How is it that you think when they hacked Mastercard and Visa last year and caused a denial of service and no one could use their cards to shop online for almost an entire 24 hour period that it did not affect Mastercard and Visa's Custumers both?
I read the article and it really offers nothing.
What it speculates is that
Sony claims to have found a file named "anonymous" that says "we are legion".
An Anonymous member could THEORITICALLY have hacked the server, but there is nothing to indicate they did.
That is all there is. Anyone could have left a file on the Sony servers IF THERE EVEN WAS A FILE.
Sony has been full of shit since this entire debacle started. Remember their excuses the first few days the network was down? Emergency maintenance followed by complete silence. No no, it was not a network intrusion, but some network problem.
Then for almost a week they would not admit that personal data might have been taken. Then about how secure the data was. Then about banking information might be taken. Then about how a denial of service attack "distracted" them from seeing an intrusion. Now it is turning into the denial of service attack somehow "opened" ways for hackers to get in some backdoors that were mysteriously created by the denial of service attack. What next?
Anonymous might be a group of douchebag interwerb terrorists, but the one thing they crave is public attention. Sony is a money grubbing company in a very desperate situation and need someone else to share the blame.
Yeah right. They are standing up for the little guy are they? Then why are we suffering due to this?
DDOS attacks deliberately designed to disrupt my gaming experience because they think their right to do what they like (including illegal activities) is more important than my right to peacfully enjoy the service that I paid for. Stealing game ID's to destroy your characters, steal your gold and spam for dodgy and illegal gold seller sites.
And it is all for my own good as the little man?
No - thats simply a self deluded excuse from muppets that think we are stupid and gullible enough to buy that crock. Hackers are digital vandals pure and simple. Performing illegal acts, disrupting our services and acting like we should be thankful that they have screwed us over.
Very well said. Not only have they affected Sony custumers, in the past they affected CC members from Visa and Mastercard both and the service that it provided to them through that company and for what? For them to say we're mad at you for not allowing people to buy through a company who is doing ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES in the first place but we're going to stand up for them anyway even though the reason your CC companies stopped allowing payments from them was because they did something illegal.
He is right and wrong. What groups like Anonymous do is clearly different than the people that hack for personal (monetary) gain. Anonyomous would not 'steal game IDs ro destory your characters, steal your gold and spam for dodgy and illegal gold selling sites'. if thats what this attack was about we would have known it int he 2.5 weeks between the hack and the server shut down.
No, Anonymous thinks they are morally right so thats why they do this. But, yes often so do terrorists. the Parallel is there. Not all of what Anonymous does is bad, but a ton of it is. Just because they might think its right doesnt mean it is.
but at least they do something, diferent from lots of people who only talk and do nothing, plus anonymous already said they had nothing to do with it,, if you want to blame someone so much blame or sony or yourself, not try to find a 3rd part who have nothing to do with it.
There's no grasping at straws. The name of the file found was "We are Legion" so either it was Anon or a hacker trying to frame Anon. If it was Sony trying to set Anon up the FBI would find out and run their ass over for tampering with evidence.
There's no grasping at straws. The name of the file found was "We are Legion" so either it was Anon or a hacker trying to frame Anon. If it was Sony trying to set Anon up the FBI would find out and run their ass over for tampering with evidence.
or there really isn't a file.
If there is no file that will be known when the FBI finishes their investigation. You can't lie about that sort of thing and get away with it when the Feds are all over you. I'm sure Sony knows this. Your argument at this point is completely hypothetical at this point. We have to deal with what we have been told and wait for the official findings from the Feds to know what really happened.
Really, the fact that Sony was already attacked by Anonymous and the fact that there was a file planted linking to Anonymous means Im grasping at straws?
Facts
Sony was attacked by anonymous via denial of service
Anonymous stopped the attacks on or before April 7th, because they were hurting players more than Sony
He is right and wrong. What groups like Anonymous do is clearly different than the people that hack for personal (monetary) gain. Anonyomous would not 'steal game IDs ro destory your characters, steal your gold and spam for dodgy and illegal gold selling sites'. if thats what this attack was about we would have known it int he 2.5 weeks between the hack and the server shut down.
No, Anonymous thinks they are morally right so thats why they do this. But, yes often so do terrorists. the Parallel is there. Not all of what Anonymous does is bad, but a ton of it is. Just because they might think its right doesnt mean it is.
So did Hitler, Nepolian, Asama Bin Ladan, etc.... Must we really go on with this? Point it what Anonymous does is illegal period. It doesn't matter if they think they are trying to stand up for other people. It is like I was taught at a very young age 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Eventually at the rate they are going they will be taken down in the same manner once people start ifnding out where they are. You can guarantee that they are not going to be seen as the one in the right in any of these things they do. This way of thinking is and always will be misconstrued way of thinking that you can do something illegal just because this company goes up against someone you think you should prtect even though they did something illegal.
Maybe they need to watch a few more movies about how some crazy person thought they were in the right when they were not and ended up dying in the end because guess what those movies portray is true to life as to what happens to someone in this position 9/10 times. The person decides that their cause is theonly thing that is right in life and continues with it no matter how many people tell them it is wrong.
This isn't just about defending people or their rights this is about the fact that Anonymous members need to grow up and if you are a part of them at this point I would be getting out if you have not done very many illegal things up to this point in your life. Even though people may have not been authorized to do this from AnonOp's if they are affiliated with the group anyone and everyone in that group is guilty by association and will be put through the ringer.
So all of you young kids that might be in this group this is basically fair warning that I am pretty sure if any part of anonymous had a hand in this they will end up going down and get out now while you have the chance. Before you ruin your lives for nothing.
but at least they do something, diferent from lots of people who only talk and do nothing, plus anonymous already said they had nothing to do with it,, if you want to blame someone so much blame or sony or yourself, not try to find a 3rd part who have nothing to do with it.
So doing something illegal that adversewly affects millions is better than doing nothing?
Sony claims to have found a file named "anonymous" that says "we are legion".
An Anonymous member could THEORITICALLY have hacked the server, but there is nothing to indicate they did.
That is all there is. Anyone could have left a file on the Sony servers IF THERE EVEN WAS A FILE.
Sony has been full of shit since this entire debacle started. Remember their excuses the first few days the network was down? Emergency maintenance followed by complete silence. No no, it was not a network intrusion, but some network problem.
It actually makes sense that they were quiet at first, no need to cause a panic if there was no need for it. There was so they announced what happened. It might not be the best way to handle it but it does make sense.
Then for almost a week they would not admit that personal data might have been taken. Then about how secure the data was. Then about banking information might be taken. Then about how a denial of service attack "distracted" them from seeing an intrusion. Now it is turning into the denial of service attack somehow "opened" ways for hackers to get in some backdoors that were mysteriously created by the denial of service attack. What next?
Again as I said above the delay makes sense in a way, but it was not the best decision for sure.
I think you might have your tinfoil hat on too tight though. It looks to me that you're trying to find any way you can to shine a bad light on Sony, much in the same way a conspiracy theorist would towards a body of goverment. As far as conspiracy theories go, if you want it to be there it will be there. Yet most of the time it's only there in your mind.
Anonymous might be a group of douchebag interwerb terrorists, but the one thing they crave is public attention. Sony is a money grubbing company in a very desperate situation and need someone else to share the blame.
Why not wait until all the checks are there before cashing them in? I say that because there is someone to blame, the hackers who did this, whoever they may be.
Reading between the lines of your posts I can only come to one conclusion, you want Sony to be guilty of something, and you really don't care what it is.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
If there is no file that will be known when the FBI finishes their investigation. You can't lie about that sort of thing and get away with it when the Feds are all over you.
Get away with what? This guy could just be repeating a rumor that circulated Sony or what it could be a misdirect as part of the investigation. Not sure what he would be getting away with.
Really, the fact that Sony was already attacked by Anonymous and the fact that there was a file planted linking to Anonymous means Im grasping at straws?
Facts
Sony was attacked by anonymous via denial of service
Anonymous stopped the attacks on or before April 7th, because they were hurting players more than Sony
Anonymous loves to brag about their conquests.
The rest you list isn't a fact.
The middle one isnt a fact. They may have called for the attacks to stop but that doesnt mean that the attacks on sony by anonymous members stopped.
If there is no file that will be known when the FBI finishes their investigation. You can't lie about that sort of thing and get away with it when the Feds are all over you.
Get away with what? This guy could just be repeating a rumor that circulated Sony or what it could be a misdirect as part of the investigation. Not sure what he would be getting away with.
Again if there was no file we will know when the Feds finish their investigation.
but at least they do something, diferent from lots of people who only talk and do nothing, plus anonymous already said they had nothing to do with it,, if you want to blame someone so much blame or sony or yourself, not try to find a 3rd part who have nothing to do with it.
So doing something illegal that adversewly affects millions is better than doing nothing?
millions? define it? I use the internet almost for 24 hours a day, be it at work or be it at home, and I never even get any kind of problems with then.
plus the sony case was not they doing, and please if you are NA citizen youa re the least one who can complain about one hurting millions, US is know for that.
He is right and wrong. What groups like Anonymous do is clearly different than the people that hack for personal (monetary) gain. Anonyomous would not 'steal game IDs ro destory your characters, steal your gold and spam for dodgy and illegal gold selling sites'. if thats what this attack was about we would have known it int he 2.5 weeks between the hack and the server shut down.
No, Anonymous thinks they are morally right so thats why they do this. But, yes often so do terrorists. the Parallel is there. Not all of what Anonymous does is bad, but a ton of it is. Just because they might think its right doesnt mean it is.
So did Hitler, Nepolian, Asama Bin Ladan, etc.... Must we really go on with this? Point it what Anonymous does is illegal period. It doesn't matter if they think they are trying to stand up for other people. It is like I was taught at a very young age 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Eventually at the rate they are going they will be taken down in the same manner once people start ifnding out where they are. You can guarantee that they are not going to be seen as the one in the right in any of these things they do. This way of thinking is and always will be misconstrued way of thinking that you can do something illegal just because this company goes up against someone you think you should prtect even though they did something illegal.
Maybe they need to watch a few more movies about how some crazy person thought they were in the right when they were not and ended up dying in the end because guess what those movies portray is true to life as to what happens to someone in this position 9/10 times. The person decides that their cause is theonly thing that is right in life and continues with it no matter how many people tell them it is wrong.
This isn't just about defending people or their rights this is about the fact that Anonymous members need to grow up and if you are a part of them at this point I would be getting out if you have not done very many illegal things up to this point in your life. Even though people may have not been authorized to do this from AnonOp's if they are affiliated with the group anyone and everyone in that group is guilty by association and will be put through the ringer.
So all of you young kids that might be in this group this is basically fair warning that I am pretty sure if any part of anonymous had a hand in this they will end up going down and get out now while you have the chance. Before you ruin your lives for nothing.
I am not disagreeing with you. I was disagreeign with the previous poster that was basically saying hacking is hacking. When in fact there is a big difference
but at least they do something, diferent from lots of people who only talk and do nothing, plus anonymous already said they had nothing to do with it,, if you want to blame someone so much blame or sony or yourself, not try to find a 3rd part who have nothing to do with it.
So doing something illegal that adversewly affects millions is better than doing nothing?
millions? define it? I use the internet almost for 24 hours a day, be it at work or be it at home, and I never even get any kind of problems with then.
plus the sony case was not they doing, and please if you are NA citizen youa re the least one who can complain about one hurting millions, US is know for that.
I would think its safe to say the number of people who use PSn + SoE services is millions. Regardless if was Anonymous or not it was still cyberterrorism. And your last statement is just beyond idiotic.
but at least they do something, diferent from lots of people who only talk and do nothing, plus anonymous already said they had nothing to do with it,, if you want to blame someone so much blame or sony or yourself, not try to find a 3rd part who have nothing to do with it.
So doing something illegal that adversewly affects millions is better than doing nothing?
millions? define it? I use the internet almost for 24 hours a day, be it at work or be it at home, and I never even get any kind of problems with then.
plus the sony case was not they doing, and please if you are NA citizen youa re the least one who can complain about one hurting millions, US is know for that.
I would think its safe to say the number of people who use PSn + SoE services is millions. Regardless if was Anonymous or not it was still cyberterrorism. And your last statement is just beyond idiotic.
that is your opnion, but please carry on, keep on your little world.
I was not defending who did this to sony, even in my opnion who let it easy was then, if they keep a good IT tema and segurity measure, they would notice a strange access to they database, and hell only reason they find out was because the hacker who did it did a lazy job on it, if not they woudln't never know.
plus just read what anonymous do, its hardly terrorism, not more then what US goverm propapaganda or others religious groups do.
also don't need to answer anymore I will not come back, too many close minded people here who think the coorporation is all there just for the good, yeah right.
Really, the fact that Sony was already attacked by Anonymous and the fact that there was a file planted linking to Anonymous means Im grasping at straws?
Facts
Sony was attacked by anonymous via denial of service
Anonymous stopped the attacks on or before April 7th, because they were hurting players more than Sony
Anonymous loves to brag about their conquests.
The rest you list isn't a fact.
The middle one isnt a fact. They may have called for the attacks to stop but that doesnt mean that the attacks on sony by anonymous members stopped.
Ugh.. The denial of service attacks stopped. Anonymous was VERY clear that they were not done trying to find a way to hack Sony, but in a way that would not harm the customers.
Anonymous has been very open about their intentions and actions. I think that is what you don't understand.
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No, a lot of what hackers do is for the 'little guy'. However the little guy is not always right. Like the guy who hacked the playstation 3 that caused all this mess, he was not right and Sony had every right to go after him. Where they screwed up (and what really drew the ire of anonymous) is trying to go after the people that watched his video.
Amazing for all of you out there who are saying Anoymous had NOTHING to do with this even AnonOp's have admitted that an unsanctioned group from Anoymous may have been in on this. Holy cow unsanctioned sounds just like terrorists doesn't it?
One even admits seeing information on the vulnerablility that was used to hack Sony and guess what. It was another Anonymous group member who had it.
And if you don't want to take my word that they said it go here.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20061518-260.html
And if you all want to keep saying that what Anoymous does does not affect costumers think again. How is it that you think when they hacked Mastercard and Visa last year and caused a denial of service and no one could use their cards to shop online for almost an entire 24 hour period that it did not affect Mastercard and Visa's Custumers both?
Unsanctioned lol. Theyre a bunch of highly unorganised, mostly illiterate kids who think its fun to cause mayhem.
Yeah right. They are standing up for the little guy are they? Then why are we suffering due to this?
DDOS attacks deliberately designed to disrupt my gaming experience because they think their right to do what they like (including illegal activities) is more important than my right to peacfully enjoy the service that I paid for. Stealing game ID's to destroy your characters, steal your gold and spam for dodgy and illegal gold seller sites.
And it is all for my own good as the little man?
No - thats simply a self deluded excuse from muppets that think we are stupid and gullible enough to buy that crock. Hackers are digital vandals pure and simple. Performing illegal acts, disrupting our services and acting like we should be thankful that they have screwed us over.
Cheers
Stuntie.
My my! What did they expect 'honour amongst thieves'?
Cheers
Stuntie.
Very well said. Not only have they affected Sony custumers, in the past they affected CC members from Visa and Mastercard both and the service that it provided to them through that company and for what? For them to say we're mad at you for not allowing people to buy through a company who is doing ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES in the first place but we're going to stand up for them anyway even though the reason your CC companies stopped allowing payments from them was because they did something illegal.
He is right and wrong. What groups like Anonymous do is clearly different than the people that hack for personal (monetary) gain. Anonyomous would not 'steal game IDs ro destory your characters, steal your gold and spam for dodgy and illegal gold selling sites'. if thats what this attack was about we would have known it int he 2.5 weeks between the hack and the server shut down.
No, Anonymous thinks they are morally right so thats why they do this. But, yes often so do terrorists. the Parallel is there. Not all of what Anonymous does is bad, but a ton of it is. Just because they might think its right doesnt mean it is.
There's no grasping at straws. The name of the file found was "We are Legion" so either it was Anon or a hacker trying to frame Anon. If it was Sony trying to set Anon up the FBI would find out and run their ass over for tampering with evidence. If it really was Anon theft has never been their M.O. They stick to cyberterrorism. Which clearly this was a total success in that regard with how many people are jumping on the victim of their attack.
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I read the article and it really offers nothing.
What it speculates is that
Sony claims to have found a file named "anonymous" that says "we are legion".
An Anonymous member could THEORITICALLY have hacked the server, but there is nothing to indicate they did.
That is all there is. Anyone could have left a file on the Sony servers IF THERE EVEN WAS A FILE.
Sony has been full of shit since this entire debacle started. Remember their excuses the first few days the network was down? Emergency maintenance followed by complete silence. No no, it was not a network intrusion, but some network problem.
Then for almost a week they would not admit that personal data might have been taken. Then about how secure the data was. Then about banking information might be taken. Then about how a denial of service attack "distracted" them from seeing an intrusion. Now it is turning into the denial of service attack somehow "opened" ways for hackers to get in some backdoors that were mysteriously created by the denial of service attack. What next?
Anonymous might be a group of douchebag interwerb terrorists, but the one thing they crave is public attention. Sony is a money grubbing company in a very desperate situation and need someone else to share the blame.
but at least they do something, diferent from lots of people who only talk and do nothing, plus anonymous already said they had nothing to do with it,, if you want to blame someone so much blame or sony or yourself, not try to find a 3rd part who have nothing to do with it.
or there really isn't a file.
If there is no file that will be known when the FBI finishes their investigation. You can't lie about that sort of thing and get away with it when the Feds are all over you. I'm sure Sony knows this. Your argument at this point is completely hypothetical at this point. We have to deal with what we have been told and wait for the official findings from the Feds to know what really happened.
My theme song.
Facts
Sony was attacked by anonymous via denial of service
Anonymous stopped the attacks on or before April 7th, because they were hurting players more than Sony
Anonymous loves to brag about their conquests.
The rest you list isn't a fact.
So did Hitler, Nepolian, Asama Bin Ladan, etc.... Must we really go on with this? Point it what Anonymous does is illegal period. It doesn't matter if they think they are trying to stand up for other people. It is like I was taught at a very young age 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Eventually at the rate they are going they will be taken down in the same manner once people start ifnding out where they are. You can guarantee that they are not going to be seen as the one in the right in any of these things they do. This way of thinking is and always will be misconstrued way of thinking that you can do something illegal just because this company goes up against someone you think you should prtect even though they did something illegal.
Maybe they need to watch a few more movies about how some crazy person thought they were in the right when they were not and ended up dying in the end because guess what those movies portray is true to life as to what happens to someone in this position 9/10 times. The person decides that their cause is theonly thing that is right in life and continues with it no matter how many people tell them it is wrong.
This isn't just about defending people or their rights this is about the fact that Anonymous members need to grow up and if you are a part of them at this point I would be getting out if you have not done very many illegal things up to this point in your life. Even though people may have not been authorized to do this from AnonOp's if they are affiliated with the group anyone and everyone in that group is guilty by association and will be put through the ringer.
So all of you young kids that might be in this group this is basically fair warning that I am pretty sure if any part of anonymous had a hand in this they will end up going down and get out now while you have the chance. Before you ruin your lives for nothing.
So doing something illegal that adversewly affects millions is better than doing nothing?
Why not wait until all the checks are there before cashing them in? I say that because there is someone to blame, the hackers who did this, whoever they may be.
Reading between the lines of your posts I can only come to one conclusion, you want Sony to be guilty of something, and you really don't care what it is.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Get away with what? This guy could just be repeating a rumor that circulated Sony or what it could be a misdirect as part of the investigation. Not sure what he would be getting away with.
I really hope when they arrest the person that pulled this off they are wearing their Guy Fawkes mask or it's at least found near their desk.
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The middle one isnt a fact. They may have called for the attacks to stop but that doesnt mean that the attacks on sony by anonymous members stopped.
Again if there was no file we will know when the Feds finish their investigation.
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millions? define it? I use the internet almost for 24 hours a day, be it at work or be it at home, and I never even get any kind of problems with then.
plus the sony case was not they doing, and please if you are NA citizen youa re the least one who can complain about one hurting millions, US is know for that.
I am not disagreeing with you. I was disagreeign with the previous poster that was basically saying hacking is hacking. When in fact there is a big difference
I would think its safe to say the number of people who use PSn + SoE services is millions. Regardless if was Anonymous or not it was still cyberterrorism. And your last statement is just beyond idiotic.
that is your opnion, but please carry on, keep on your little world.
I was not defending who did this to sony, even in my opnion who let it easy was then, if they keep a good IT tema and segurity measure, they would notice a strange access to they database, and hell only reason they find out was because the hacker who did it did a lazy job on it, if not they woudln't never know.
plus just read what anonymous do, its hardly terrorism, not more then what US goverm propapaganda or others religious groups do.
also don't need to answer anymore I will not come back, too many close minded people here who think the coorporation is all there just for the good, yeah right.
Ugh.. The denial of service attacks stopped. Anonymous was VERY clear that they were not done trying to find a way to hack Sony, but in a way that would not harm the customers.
Anonymous has been very open about their intentions and actions. I think that is what you don't understand.