I don't think the game having no sub fee, really counts as a reason to play. Thats not why people play. Its just a bonus.
Its the reason I'm going to play. I don't care how amazing the game looks, I wouldn't bother if it had a subscription.
LoL
Why don't you play any F2P then : you wouldn't even have to pay anything... there are a ton of good F2P and even more incoming.
How hypocritical you are...
Why would I play a F2P game that doesn't offer the quality or content that GW2 does? The only MMOs I'm interested in are GW2 and Firefall. I refuse to pay for access to a game after I already bought it and I'm not going to bother playing a game that doesn't have a good amount of quality or content.
I'm not hypocritical, I'm just not going to play a low quality game even if its free.
Thanx to make me right
Then the first reason why you will play guild wars is because there is a good amount of quality and content compared to any other F2P since you refuse to pay to access to a game after having bought it (meaning you don't play on xbox, do you ?).
It's just one step from the sublime to the ridiculous. C9 impatient awaiter
Then the first reason why you will play guild wars is because there is a good amount of quality and content compared to any other F2P since you refuse to pay to access to a game after having bought it (meaning you don't play on xbox, do you ?).
What the heck does the X-box have to do with anything being said? For the gold membership you pay a fee to access the extra features on the x-box, you do not pay on a game by game basses. That is a completely different type of fee, and is nowhere close to being the same as a pay to play MMO. In fact I own a X-box and I pay the $60 per a year for the additional services, but like Romanator0 I will not pay for a subscription service to a MMO. Now if you can point me to a MMO company that will give me access to their network for $60 a year then you might have a point.
Where's the "I won't be playing." button? Its groovy for those who like this hybrid sort of thing. It's not really my bag but to each his own right?
Guild Wars 2 is not a hybrid; it is a buy to play game. The I won’t play button is just simply not clicking on the link to the poll, I know with that you will have to show some restraint and not give your opinion on a game that you will never play, but I think you can do it.
Where's the "I won't be playing." button? Its groovy for those who like this hybrid sort of thing. It's not really my bag but to each his own right?
Guild Wars 2 is not a hybrid; it is a buy to play game. The I won’t play button is just simply not clicking on the link to the poll, I know with that you will have to show some restraint and not give your opinion on a game that you will never play, but I think you can do it.
It's late, I'm an insomiac and bored and it was on the current forum activity list on the main page. I thought it couldn't hurt to see what the options are. Fortunately there's no law against posting in the forum heading for a game I don't intend to play. Never know if there's anything that might change my mind even. It could be worse... at least I'm not a troll right? Its not groovy reading a lot of posts with hate an vitriol. Maybe one or two from a bored insomniac with too much time on his hands isn't so bad.
I don't think the game having no sub fee, really counts as a reason to play. Thats not why people play. Its just a bonus.
Its the reason I'm going to play. I don't care how amazing the game looks, I wouldn't bother if it had a subscription.
LoL
Why don't you play any F2P then : you wouldn't even have to pay anything... there are a ton of good F2P and even more incoming.
How in bad faith you are
You can't really compare GW or soon GW2 to the F2P games out there. You get everything you need to play the game to its fullest just with a one time buy. That is not the case in F2P games. Maybe it shouldn't even be in the same catagory as alot of those titles. Most F2P games you get to a point were you have to purchase something from their item malls or some other garbage they have to make your experience normal. Yeah there are a few titles were you can play for free completely, even though they have item malls. In those game though the PvP usually is lacking for the players who choose not to pay.
Like Warhammers Online is F2P but you can only progress so far unless you buy a sub, or LotR soon to be fremuim were you can't access all the content unless you pay. With GW this isn't the case. If you buy the game you get everything. Unless they want to completely disenchant their fan base this will be how GW2 is or else it will fall into the F2P catagory and will not be very popular. I seen someone else in this post call it B2P. I think that better describes it. Like said though there are alot of other things GW2 is doing to make me want this game. For me the "No sub required.", as well as Anets opposition of the subscription base model,makes me want to buy their game on their stand alone. I have alway felt companies were ripping us off with subs. I hold faith that GW2 will show the truth of this.
Really though I cannot compair GW to any current MMO's because its all instanced. This will all change though with GW2 being made a full persistand world. I mean, I been paying for all these MMO's subs since Everquest. I just hope GW2 crushes all comers so that we can maybe see a change in the way these companies decide to do busness with us. I for certain would love to be able to play more MMO's than just one or 2 at a time.(2 is the most subs I can afford to have at once.). It would be nice to see developers lose subscriptions as well as all the F2P item mall crap that out there now.
Lol, Free to play shouldn't even be a catagory, since most of them aren't even free. The name should be Free with Conditions. I think GW2 will truely be the only F2P MMO out.
It's late, I'm an insomiac and bored and it was on the current forum activity list on the main page. I thought it couldn't hurt to see what the options are. Fortunately there's no law against posting in the forum heading for a game I don't intend to play. Never know if there's anything that might change my mind even. It could be worse... at least I'm not a troll right? Its not groovy reading a lot of posts with hate an vitriol. Maybe one or two from a bored insomniac with too much time on his hands isn't so bad.
I don't think so, and if you are a troll you are at least the first polite one I seen.
But anyways, nothing you will read here is likely to change your mind. The free weekend at launch is the only likely option for that unless they announce a feature that is one of your pet peeves.
I personally try to do the trials of all MMOs with good budget that launches, 5 minutes gaming usually gives more than several months on any forum.
But if you want something that might change your mind you can always check out the vids.
Then the first reason why you will play guild wars is because there is a good amount of quality and content compared to any other F2P since you refuse to pay to access to a game after having bought it (meaning you don't play on xbox, do you ?).
What the heck does the X-box have to do with anything being said? For the gold membership you pay a fee to access the extra features on the x-box, you do not pay on a game by game basses. That is a completely different type of fee, and is nowhere close to being the same as a pay to play MMO. In fact I own a X-box and I pay the $60 per a year for the additional services, but like Romanator0 I will not pay for a subscription service to a MMO. Now if you can point me to a MMO company that will give me access to their network for $60 a year then you might have a point.
Pointless reaction not even close to the context.
I'm not here to make a point for you nor about xboxlive bytheway... in case of you did not have a clue of what I meant.
Oh and I couldn't care less about your xboxlive account...
Thanx, bye.
It's just one step from the sublime to the ridiculous. C9 impatient awaiter
I would like to choose all options, but I don't play P2P or F2P games, so no monthly fee (B2P) is the main reason I'll play it and you didn't added option 'because I played gw1'.
I would like to choose all options, but I don't play P2P or F2P games, so no monthly fee (B2P) is the main reason I'll play it and you didn't added option 'because I played gw1'.
Its not the main reason. There are other B2P games on the market. So what separates GW2 from those?
Its like choosing an electric car out of many electric cars but when asked why you picked it, "I really like electric cars and I dont buy gas guzzlers." ZING. Wrong. It's not THE deciding reason. Theres 10 electric cars, why this one?
People dont do things that they consider NOT enjoyable because they are free. Running down the block is free, riding your bike is B2P---why is it one person chooses one activity over the other? Because there is some aspect (other than free) that they enjoy.
You people are really killing me...I mean really, you cant grasp the idea? F F S!
I would like to choose all options, but I don't play P2P or F2P games, so no monthly fee (B2P) is the main reason I'll play it and you didn't added option 'because I played gw1'.
Its not the main reason. There are other B2P games on the market. So what separates GW2 from those?
Its like choosing an electric car out of many electric cars but when asked why you picked it, "I really like electric cars and I dont buy gas guzzlers." ZING. Wrong. It's not THE deciding reason. Theres 10 electric cars, why this one?
People dont do things that they consider NOT enjoyable because they are free. Running down the block is free, riding your bike is B2P---why is it one person chooses one activity over the other? Because there is some aspect (other than free) that they enjoy.
You people are really killing me...I mean really, you cant grasp the idea? F F S!
I get what you're saying, but I also think it depends on how you frame it.
For instance, nobody decides to buy a car (as opposed to just doing nothing) because it's cheap. You need a reason to buy a car, like you need it to get to work. However, once you've decided that you need to buy a car, it being cheap can logically be the primary reason you buy that particular car.
If we instead talk about a person wanting to buy "a game", then you are correct, it being B2P can't be the primary reason for buying that game, because there are bazillion other B2P games out there, a lot of which will be cheaper than GW2.
However, if we've decided to buy "a AAA MMO", then that GW2 is B2P can logically be the primary reason for buying it, because it will be the only B2P AAA MMO on the market. Even if there were multiple B2P AAA MMOs, you could still say it's the primary reason for buying it, if you make a point to buy every B2P AAA MMO on the market.
Of course, you could come back and argue that there must be some other reason for wanting to even play a AAA MMO in the first place. And I really don't want to get caught up in some huge semantics argument. All I'm saying is I get what you're saying, but I don't think people who voted for B2P are wrong either.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it."-Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
The reason why i will play Guild Wars 2 is Guild Wars 1 was the most polished balance online game that i have ever played at launch. This is not at all saying it was perfect but better then all other. Also Arena-net has great leaders and listen to there player base. They also are not trying to suck me dry of all my money with all of there being like most MMO's.
Playing: PO, EVE Waiting for: WoD Favourite MMOs: VG, EVE, FE and DDO Any person who expresses rage and loathing for an MMO is preposterous. He or she is like a person who has put on full armor and attacked a hot fudge sundae.
I'll play it for the art. So far the art looks amazing.
I don't usually like F2P games and I wasn't a fan of GW, i think I quit playing after a week... but GW2 I plan to buy just to see what they've done with the artwork.
I would like to choose all options, but I don't play P2P or F2P games, so no monthly fee (B2P) is the main reason I'll play it and you didn't added option 'because I played gw1'.
Its not the main reason. There are other B2P games on the market. So what separates GW2 from those?
Its like choosing an electric car out of many electric cars but when asked why you picked it, "I really like electric cars and I dont buy gas guzzlers." ZING. Wrong. It's not THE deciding reason. Theres 10 electric cars, why this one?
People dont do things that they consider NOT enjoyable because they are free. Running down the block is free, riding your bike is B2P---why is it one person chooses one activity over the other? Because there is some aspect (other than free) that they enjoy.
You people are really killing me...I mean really, you cant grasp the idea? F F S!
I get what you're saying, but I also think it depends on how you frame it.
For instance, nobody decides to buy a car (as opposed to just doing nothing) because it's cheap. You need a reason to buy a car, like you need it to get to work. However, once you've decided that you need to buy a car, it being cheap can logically be the primary reason you buy that particular car.
Ok lets go with that. The problem is, there are a ton of cheap cars. What separates the cheap car you picked from the other cheap cars? Being cheap is not the deciding factor.
If we instead talk about a person wanting to buy "a game", then you are correct, it being B2P can't be the primary reason for buying that game, because there are bazillion other B2P games out there, a lot of which will be cheaper than GW2.
However, if we've decided to buy "a AAA MMO", then that GW2 is B2P can logically be the primary reason for buying it, because it will be the only B2P AAA MMO on the market. Even if there were multiple B2P AAA MMOs, you could still say it's the primary reason for buying it, if you make a point to buy every B2P AAA MMO on the market.
What if you HATED everything that was Guild Wars 2, but it was still the only AAA MMO on the market that was B2P. Would you play it simply because it didnt have a monthly fee, hating it all the while? I dont think so.
Of course, you could come back and argue that there must be some other reason for wanting to even play a AAA MMO in the first place. And I really don't want to get caught up in some huge semantics argument. All I'm saying is I get what you're saying, but I don't think people who voted for B2P are wrong either.
I think they are wrong. It is not the main deciding factor to play a game, even if that is very important to someone. Why do we play games at all? Because they are fun. Show someone a video of GW2 and ask them what looks fun about it, are they really going to say "the cost"?
If you asked a kid, what his number one reason for playing outside with his friends was, would he say "ITS FREE!" Of course not.
Thank you for being so civil, but again this whole argument is ridiculous to me.
People aren't spending 50 dollars on nothing, they are spending it on a game.
Why that game?
No really, why guild wars 2 as opposed to another game?
You can spend 50 dollars on any game. Why guild wars 2? <--Thats the reason to play. Thats the #1 reason for that person.
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Thanx to make me right
Then the first reason why you will play guild wars is because there is a good amount of quality and content compared to any other F2P since you refuse to pay to access to a game after having bought it (meaning you don't play on xbox, do you ?).
It's just one step from the sublime to the ridiculous.
C9 impatient awaiter
well , i picked w v w , and also there wasnt option because there is not going to be anything else either so.
cheers
What the heck does the X-box have to do with anything being said? For the gold membership you pay a fee to access the extra features on the x-box, you do not pay on a game by game basses. That is a completely different type of fee, and is nowhere close to being the same as a pay to play MMO. In fact I own a X-box and I pay the $60 per a year for the additional services, but like Romanator0 I will not pay for a subscription service to a MMO. Now if you can point me to a MMO company that will give me access to their network for $60 a year then you might have a point.
Number 1 reason why i will play gw2 is because its different. All that dynamic event stuff sounds amazing and dont forget overall gameplay
Where's the "I won't be playing." button? Its groovy for those who like this hybrid sort of thing. It's not really my bag but to each his own right?
Guild Wars 2 is not a hybrid; it is a buy to play game. The I won’t play button is just simply not clicking on the link to the poll, I know with that you will have to show some restraint and not give your opinion on a game that you will never play, but I think you can do it.
It's late, I'm an insomiac and bored and it was on the current forum activity list on the main page. I thought it couldn't hurt to see what the options are. Fortunately there's no law against posting in the forum heading for a game I don't intend to play. Never know if there's anything that might change my mind even. It could be worse... at least I'm not a troll right? Its not groovy reading a lot of posts with hate an vitriol. Maybe one or two from a bored insomniac with too much time on his hands isn't so bad.
You can't really compare GW or soon GW2 to the F2P games out there. You get everything you need to play the game to its fullest just with a one time buy. That is not the case in F2P games. Maybe it shouldn't even be in the same catagory as alot of those titles. Most F2P games you get to a point were you have to purchase something from their item malls or some other garbage they have to make your experience normal. Yeah there are a few titles were you can play for free completely, even though they have item malls. In those game though the PvP usually is lacking for the players who choose not to pay.
Like Warhammers Online is F2P but you can only progress so far unless you buy a sub, or LotR soon to be fremuim were you can't access all the content unless you pay. With GW this isn't the case. If you buy the game you get everything. Unless they want to completely disenchant their fan base this will be how GW2 is or else it will fall into the F2P catagory and will not be very popular. I seen someone else in this post call it B2P. I think that better describes it. Like said though there are alot of other things GW2 is doing to make me want this game. For me the "No sub required.", as well as Anets opposition of the subscription base model,makes me want to buy their game on their stand alone. I have alway felt companies were ripping us off with subs. I hold faith that GW2 will show the truth of this.
Really though I cannot compair GW to any current MMO's because its all instanced. This will all change though with GW2 being made a full persistand world. I mean, I been paying for all these MMO's subs since Everquest. I just hope GW2 crushes all comers so that we can maybe see a change in the way these companies decide to do busness with us. I for certain would love to be able to play more MMO's than just one or 2 at a time.(2 is the most subs I can afford to have at once.). It would be nice to see developers lose subscriptions as well as all the F2P item mall crap that out there now.
Lol, Free to play shouldn't even be a catagory, since most of them aren't even free. The name should be Free with Conditions. I think GW2 will truely be the only F2P MMO out.
I don't think so, and if you are a troll you are at least the first polite one I seen.
But anyways, nothing you will read here is likely to change your mind. The free weekend at launch is the only likely option for that unless they announce a feature that is one of your pet peeves.
I personally try to do the trials of all MMOs with good budget that launches, 5 minutes gaming usually gives more than several months on any forum.
But if you want something that might change your mind you can always check out the vids.
Pointless reaction not even close to the context.
I'm not here to make a point for you nor about xboxlive bytheway... in case of you did not have a clue of what I meant.
Oh and I couldn't care less about your xboxlive account...
Thanx, bye.
It's just one step from the sublime to the ridiculous.
C9 impatient awaiter
I would like to choose all options, but I don't play P2P or F2P games, so no monthly fee (B2P) is the main reason I'll play it and you didn't added option 'because I played gw1'.
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World Vs World is my #1 reason followed by No sub's then art and graphics
Guild Wars 2 rules all of those. I couldn't choose.
Guild Wars 2!
Guild Wars 1 had a followable storyline. Hopefully GW2 will have the same. The linearity of GW1 is what kept me hooked. I like having direction.
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It is a single reason and not the deciding factor TO play.
If it had a fee, that might be the deciding factor NOT to play.
But since we are comparing things that are free, why dont you play the other free games?
Obviously your interest is in GW2. So what does GuildWars 2 have that distinguishes itself from the other free games?
Once you answer that question, there is your Sole Reason
Because it's Guild Wars. Simple.
im missing gw1
i liked gw1 i trust the devs that gw2 will be as good or better experience
i dont lurk constantly the news i just wait and will get it
Pi*1337/100 = 42
You forgot the I am not going to play just show me the results choice.
Its not the main reason. There are other B2P games on the market. So what separates GW2 from those?
Its like choosing an electric car out of many electric cars but when asked why you picked it, "I really like electric cars and I dont buy gas guzzlers." ZING. Wrong. It's not THE deciding reason. Theres 10 electric cars, why this one?
People dont do things that they consider NOT enjoyable because they are free. Running down the block is free, riding your bike is B2P---why is it one person chooses one activity over the other? Because there is some aspect (other than free) that they enjoy.
You people are really killing me...I mean really, you cant grasp the idea? F F S!
I get what you're saying, but I also think it depends on how you frame it.
For instance, nobody decides to buy a car (as opposed to just doing nothing) because it's cheap. You need a reason to buy a car, like you need it to get to work. However, once you've decided that you need to buy a car, it being cheap can logically be the primary reason you buy that particular car.
If we instead talk about a person wanting to buy "a game", then you are correct, it being B2P can't be the primary reason for buying that game, because there are bazillion other B2P games out there, a lot of which will be cheaper than GW2.
However, if we've decided to buy "a AAA MMO", then that GW2 is B2P can logically be the primary reason for buying it, because it will be the only B2P AAA MMO on the market. Even if there were multiple B2P AAA MMOs, you could still say it's the primary reason for buying it, if you make a point to buy every B2P AAA MMO on the market.
Of course, you could come back and argue that there must be some other reason for wanting to even play a AAA MMO in the first place. And I really don't want to get caught up in some huge semantics argument. All I'm saying is I get what you're saying, but I don't think people who voted for B2P are wrong either.
"Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true you know it, and they know it." -Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007
The reason why i will play Guild Wars 2 is Guild Wars 1 was the most polished balance online game that i have ever played at launch. This is not at all saying it was perfect but better then all other. Also Arena-net has great leaders and listen to there player base. They also are not trying to suck me dry of all my money with all of there being like most MMO's.
Playing: PO, EVE
Waiting for: WoD
Favourite MMOs: VG, EVE, FE and DDO
Any person who expresses rage and loathing for an MMO is preposterous. He or she is like a person who has put on full armor and attacked a hot fudge sundae.
I'll play it for the art. So far the art looks amazing.
I don't usually like F2P games and I wasn't a fan of GW, i think I quit playing after a week... but GW2 I plan to buy just to see what they've done with the artwork.
No bitchers.
I think they are wrong. It is not the main deciding factor to play a game, even if that is very important to someone. Why do we play games at all? Because they are fun. Show someone a video of GW2 and ask them what looks fun about it, are they really going to say "the cost"?
If you asked a kid, what his number one reason for playing outside with his friends was, would he say "ITS FREE!" Of course not.
Thank you for being so civil, but again this whole argument is ridiculous to me.
People aren't spending 50 dollars on nothing, they are spending it on a game.
Why that game?
No really, why guild wars 2 as opposed to another game?
You can spend 50 dollars on any game. Why guild wars 2? <--Thats the reason to play. Thats the #1 reason for that person.
It depends. Lets say that the kid wanted to play basketball. His options are playing outside for free or paying to play in some club.
Which one do you thing he would choose? I'm betting he would play outside. Why? Probably because its free.
You didn't read my post. If you did you wouldn't be comparing things that aren't comparable.