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Anyone else sick of dragons?

GoknubGoknub Member Posts: 19

Really, I'm sick of 'em. Maybe they were scarey when I was 7, I can't remember but they are just plain annoying and irritating now. Most new MMO's/Expansions/Patches seems to run on the assumption that if it doesn't have a dragon in it then its just not epic enough. I know they're supposed to be the ultimate evil and all that but they just don't work for me, especially with every Hollywood dragon being a talking gentle giant with the occasional layer of lipstick to boot.

Make a butterfly 50 storeys tall and breath fire and it'll do just as well at destroying stuff. I was starting to look forward to GW2 until I saw this on the website:

"For generations, war and chaos raged across the land of Tyria. Five great races competed and warred against each other, struggling to tip the balance of power in their favor.

Then the dragons woke.

The all-powerful beasts...blah blah everyone's doomed."

So are other people over the flying lizards?

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  • QuirhidQuirhid Member UncommonPosts: 6,230

    What do you consider epic then? Raving rabbits?

    I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky

  • AusareAusare Member Posts: 850

    Not me.  I have little to no interest in games that try to create all new creatures to populate their world.  Dragons, Orcs, Goblins, Trolls, etc are creatures ingrained in our minds from stories and legends.  It is easy to wrap my mind around them and understand them some.  When a game creates a new creature it is harder to feel an attachement to it.  I grew up on Dungeons and Dragons....I like my games to take D&D to the next level. 

  • AdamantineAdamantine Member RarePosts: 5,094

    Anyone else sick of air ?

    Come on, guys ! Lets stop breathing ! Its boring !

  • RequiamerRequiamer Member Posts: 2,034

    Did you saw the Skyrim dragon? it seam quiet a good challenge.

  • AlotAlot Member Posts: 1,948

    Originally posted by Requiamer

    Did you saw the Skyrim dragon? it seam quiet a good challenge.

    Alot thinks it will take quite some time before we're able to see a dragon fly gracefully through the air like that in an MMORPG.

  • theinvadertheinvader Member UncommonPosts: 240

    Originally posted by Adamantine

    Anyone else sick of air ?

    Come on, guys ! Lets stop breathing ! Its boring !

    What's your point? That dragons are essential to life?

    Always read the small print.

  • RequiamerRequiamer Member Posts: 2,034

    Originally posted by Alot

    Originally posted by Requiamer

    Did you saw the Skyrim dragon? it seam quiet a good challenge.

    Alot thinks it will take quite some time before we're able to see a dragon fly gracefully through the air like that in an MMORPG.

     In Darkfall you had nice dragons too, not with such a good Ai, but they flew nicely for sure, they also were burning people from the sky, was really nice to watch them do their tricks, and not so nice to be their target. Having better mobs in mmo will come, it might need few more decade to have the mmo designers nervous system hit their brain tough ;p

  • just2duhjust2duh Member Posts: 1,290

     If the thought of Dragons bores you, then maybe it's the just fantasy setting you're sick of.

     They're still as epic as ever whenever I come acrossed them in my games (NWN2 most recently, and holy crap it was awesome). If anything we'll only be seeing much more of them show up in games after Skyrim hits shelves, so maybe it's just time to get out.

  • futnatusfutnatus Member Posts: 193

    No.

  • MeowheadMeowhead Member UncommonPosts: 3,716

    Originally posted by Goknub

    "For generations, war and chaos raged across the land of Tyria. Five great races competed and warred against each other, struggling to tip the balance of power in their favor.

    Then the dragons woke.

    The all-powerful beasts...blah blah everyone's doomed."

    So are other people over the flying lizards?

    ... but... but the dragons in GW2 are amusingly big.  Like.  REALLY big.  No.  Bigger than that.  They're... huge.

    I'm all for ridiculously oversized dragons.  If you can't mistake a dragon for a large sized island when it goes swimming, it's just too darn small.

  • ThorkuneThorkune Member UncommonPosts: 1,969

    Originally posted by Goknub

    Really, I'm sick of 'em. Maybe they were scarey when I was 7, I can't remember but they are just plain annoying and irritating now. Most new MMO's/Expansions/Patches seems to run on the assumption that if it doesn't have a dragon in it then its just not epic enough. I know they're supposed to be the ultimate evil and all that but they just don't work for me, especially with every Hollywood dragon being a talking gentle giant with the occasional layer of lipstick to boot.

    Make a butterfly 50 storeys tall and breath fire and it'll do just as well at destroying stuff. I was starting to look forward to GW2 until I saw this on the website:

    "For generations, war and chaos raged across the land of Tyria. Five great races competed and warred against each other, struggling to tip the balance of power in their favor.

    Then the dragons woke.

    The all-powerful beasts...blah blah everyone's doomed."

    So are other people over the flying lizards?

     Since I received a 1 day ban yesterday for calling someone pathetic, I would like to start this post out by saying you are truly awesome! You are entitled to your opinion and I value it greatly.

    Now...dragons are a must in any fantasy MMO in my opinion. The lore of dragons just fits the genre.

  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566

    Greetings,

    As a spokesperson for the Anti Dragon Defamation League I too, am strongly opposed to the very one sided image in which dragonhood is depicted in your average roleplaying game.

    Absurdly large, destructive, evil and with a very bad breath are just some of the common denominators. All this whilst your average dragon in real life is an outgoing, gentle, yes even a benign vegetarian creature of perhaps a feet or four, spending its time being mostly harmless while either sunbathing or grazing vegetation.

    Let's put an end to this, people.

    Dark Pony

    Anti Dragon Defamation League

  • TyrxzTyrxz Member Posts: 329

    I love dragons :( Especially the big ones. THEY'RE SO AWESOME! <3

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  • JB47394JB47394 Member Posts: 409

    I'm fine with the fiction of dragons.  If not a dragon, then the developers need to come up with some other massive beast that has a fairly universal appeal or dread for people.  The odds are that the developers won't pull it off unless they rope in some other large archetypal monster.

    I'm sick of the way MMOs depict dragons.  They may look tough enough, but MMOs just don't have the machinery in place to do them justice.  They're big bags of hit points that respawn.  For me, the silliness of MMO gaming is too obvious when it comes time to down the big boss monsters.

    I can tolerate killing lots of nameless orcs far better than I can tolerate killing the same distinctive, uniquely-named dragon over and over again.

  • BeachcomberBeachcomber Member Posts: 535

    Dragons +1

    Dragons in Game of Thrones +2

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Dragons can be interesting if you use them right.

    My favorite dragon is Lofwyr, the evil CEO of Pseudo-Krupp in Shadowrun. 

    But the dragons in MMOs are mostly "meh". Not much personality, overused and pretty boring.

    Dragons are supposed to be more than a large lizard that like sleeping on a pile of gold. The are supposed to be smarter than the average person (or player), evil in a constructive way and the crop of the cream in fantasy.

    If you want something really overused to complain on I would aim on elves instead. Tolkien ripped them of norse mythology and D&D simplified them, now they are everywhere and are usually bad clones of Legolas and Galadriel. 

    To me it seems like GW is handeling dragons pretty well. They are few but very powerful instead of plenty like in certain other popular games.

  • MeowheadMeowhead Member UncommonPosts: 3,716

    Originally posted by olisud

    I hate dragons, elves and some more elves, humans and any kind  of classic fantasy world creatures.

    ... what?

    ... it must be really hard for you to find MMOs that meet your gaming needs. :(

    Also, do your 'friends' know you hate them? :(

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Originally posted by Meowhead

    Originally posted by olisud

    I hate dragons, elves and some more elves, humans and any kind  of classic fantasy world creatures.

    ... what?

    ... it must be really hard for you to find MMOs that meet your gaming needs. :(

    Also, do your 'friends' know you hate them? :(

    I think he was being sarcastic *rolling eyes*.

  • AlotAlot Member Posts: 1,948

    Originally posted by Meowhead

    Originally posted by olisud

    I hate dragons, elves and some more elves, humans and any kind  of classic fantasy world creatures.

    ... what?

    ... it must be really hard for you to find MMOs that meet your gaming needs. :(

    Also, do your 'friends' know you hate them? :(

    They are also human-haters Alot figures.

    "The Cult Of Humans Against Humanity"

    TCOHAH!

  • MeowheadMeowhead Member UncommonPosts: 3,716

    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by Meowhead


    Originally posted by olisud

    I hate dragons, elves and some more elves, humans and any kind  of classic fantasy world creatures.

    ... what?

    ... it must be really hard for you to find MMOs that meet your gaming needs. :(

    Also, do your 'friends' know you hate them? :(

    I think he was being sarcastic *rolling eyes*.

    I'm... not totally positive.

    I've seen people with a straight face accuse other games of stealing races from World of Warcraft, and listing 'human' in the list of races that were ripped off.

    Well, whether he's serious or not, my comment still stands! D:<

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Originally posted by Meowhead

    I'm... not totally positive.

    I've seen people with a straight face accuse other games of stealing races from World of Warcraft, and listing 'human' in the list of races that were ripped off.

    Well, whether he's serious or not, my comment still stands! D:<

    LOL, I am pretty sure they were sarcastic as well, or possibly high on drugs. Considering Wows original races I am pretty sure no one would rip them off.

    Dragons are very interesting since unlike any other fantasy race (except ghost if you call that a race) they actually excist in mythology from all over the world. Maybe it is from dinosaur fossiles or maybe it is something in the human psyche but there is a reason they are the most famous one (of course I have one tatooed on my shoulder so I might be partial).

    Out Norse dragons usually didn't have wings even if Fafnír had and were called "lindorms", they were guarding treasure tombs and in some old Norse tales the dead in battle are guarded by a giand dragon while fighting an eternal war.... Slightly older tale than Valhalla.

  • MeowheadMeowhead Member UncommonPosts: 3,716

    Originally posted by Loke666

    Dragons are very interesting since unlike any other fantasy race (except ghost if you call that a race) they actually excist in mythology from all over the world. Maybe it is from dinosaur fossiles or maybe it is something in the human psyche but there is a reason they are the most famous one (of course I have one tatooed on my shoulder so I might be partial).

    Out Norse dragons usually didn't have wings even if Fafnír had and were called "lindorms", they were guarding treasure tombs and in some old Norse tales the dead in battle are guarded by a giand dragon while fighting an eternal war.... Slightly older tale than Valhalla.

    I actually really like the Eastern style dragons, personally.

    They mostly don't have wings either, but they're basically more like gods than big monsters.

    They're just as smart (Or smarter) than anybody else, and they're cultured and have their own kingdoms and such.

    Of course, I'm sure you know all that, haha.

    Still, they seem more interesting than the 'big angry lizard' style of dragon to me.

  • StellosStellos Member UncommonPosts: 1,491

    Nope.  I love dragons in nearly every game they have ever appeared in. 

  • EndDreamEndDream Member Posts: 1,152

    Nah, dragons are still cool.

    Remember Old School Ultima Online

  • MadimorgaMadimorga Member UncommonPosts: 1,920

    Originally posted by Loke666

     

    My favorite dragon is Lofwyr, the evil CEO of Pseudo-Krupp in Shadowrun. 

     

    Now that's an MMO waiting to be made.  And it's been a very long wait.  I'm looking forward to World of Darkness, but I'd take Shadowrun over WoD any day.  Although having both wouldn't hurt my feelings, either.

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