You mean all those people who own and live in motor homes and big freaking yachts are weird?
I woulda thought owning a ship large enough to live on would be a mark of gratuitious wealth really. At the least a mark of good connections and status in one form or another.
Like other's say, owning a vehicle larger than most people's homes seems like quite the piece to brag over. And there's a lotta people in real life who live in motor homes constantly travelling and what-not.
Comparing a big damn spaceship to a car is, while mildly humorous, a very inaccurate comparision of the purpose and design of the vehicles.
Ok because you are obviously a left wing democrat you can only buy a Toyota Prius and must live in it.
LOL
Btw, people that own yachts and motor homes use them for vaction or travel in 9/10 instances. They have real homes to live in.
Why can't we have both? ^^
I want a ship AND a house to decorate and live in.
Oh and lets not forget, your class and faction determine what ship you are allowed to live in.
Lame.
Don't forget, you can customize your ships interior and exterior too, so, theres that.
I would live in a spaceship if I could.
actually likely won't be able to do interiors at launch and not sure how much exterior customization will be available. we we be able to upgrade things like weapons and shields but no idea how much those will show
Mods as it stands right now are purely functional, such as weapons, shields, etc. Cosmetic modifications to the ship (such as hanging a painting up on your wall) are supported in the game tech, but are not currently available.
You mean all those people who own and live in motor homes and big freaking yachts are weird?
I woulda thought owning a ship large enough to live on would be a mark of gratuitious wealth really. At the least a mark of good connections and status in one form or another.
Like other's say, owning a vehicle larger than most people's homes seems like quite the piece to brag over. And there's a lotta people in real life who live in motor homes constantly travelling and what-not.
Comparing a big damn spaceship to a car is, while mildly humorous, a very inaccurate comparision of the purpose and design of the vehicles.
Ok because you are obviously a left wing democrat you can only buy a Toyota Prius and must live in it.
LOL
Btw, people that own yachts and motor homes use them for vaction or travel in 9/10 instances. They have real homes to live in.
...huh? Feck that prius drives like crap.
I'll keep my Civic. And how does lording wealth over people by buying and living in huge vehicles equate to being a democrat?
Actually not really. What you perceive them as being used by paints your perception of how they are used by in large.
You seem to be thinking of them within the context of middle age families and people who are effectively tied down for a living. Your comment completely ignores a very large segment of motorhoming lifestyle of couples and well-to-do (or even nromal) folk that truly don't live at a gounded or 'landlocked' home.
As an aside, can you keep mindless political wangwaving out of topics they make no sense in, especially when it doesn't even make sense in context?
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
You mean all those people who own and live in motor homes and big freaking yachts are weird?
I woulda thought owning a ship large enough to live on would be a mark of gratuitious wealth really. At the least a mark of good connections and status in one form or another.
Like other's say, owning a vehicle larger than most people's homes seems like quite the piece to brag over. And there's a lotta people in real life who live in motor homes constantly travelling and what-not.
Comparing a big damn spaceship to a car is, while mildly humorous, a very inaccurate comparision of the purpose and design of the vehicles.
Ok because you are obviously a left wing democrat you can only buy a Toyota Prius and must live in it.
LOL
Btw, people that own yachts and motor homes use them for vaction or travel in 9/10 instances. They have real homes to live in.
This isn't swg 2.0. Move along.
Thank you Captain Obvious, you saved us!
Well, we can have wishes, no?
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
You mean all those people who own and live in motor homes and big freaking yachts are weird?
I woulda thought owning a ship large enough to live on would be a mark of gratuitious wealth really. At the least a mark of good connections and status in one form or another.
Like other's say, owning a vehicle larger than most people's homes seems like quite the piece to brag over. And there's a lotta people in real life who live in motor homes constantly travelling and what-not.
Comparing a big damn spaceship to a car is, while mildly humorous, a very inaccurate comparision of the purpose and design of the vehicles.
Ok because you are obviously a left wing democrat you can only buy a Toyota Prius and must live in it.
LOL
Btw, people that own yachts and motor homes use them for vaction or travel in 9/10 instances. They have real homes to live in.
Why can't we have both? ^^
I want a ship AND a house to decorate and live in.
What I am basically hearing is that the focus of this game is only on your character and not the geo-political and social economic issues we read about and see in all the comics, books and movies.
So if I'm listening your telling me TOR will play like KOTOR, only online and with more and better graphics?
What I am basically hearing is that the focus of this game is only on your character and not the geo-political and social economic issues we read about and see in all the comics, books and movies.
So if I'm listening your telling me TOR will play like KOTOR, only online and with more and better graphics?
To an extent yes.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
What I am basically hearing is that the focus of this game is only on your character and not the geo-political and social economic issues we read about and see in all the comics, books and movies.
So if I'm listening your telling me TOR will play like KOTOR, only online and with more and better graphics?
What would your friends and family say if you lived out of yoru vehicle?
Even Luke and Mara, Han and Leia, Boba Fett, etc. etc. had ground based homes for R&R and kit.
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of pikies suddenly cried out in anger and were suddenly thirsty for another Stella Artois and wanted this blokes address. I fear something terrible will happen.
Being someone who spends a big part of their year travelling on the ocean I find your assumptions not only narrow-minded but a wee bit insulting, Mr. OP. People whose profession or life style keeps them travelling means having a true set address is not a fact of life, mainly, at least in my case, due to paying for and continuing to pay the upkeep for a domocile you would only live in a few weeks a year simply isn't a financial possibility. And that's just here on planet earth. In a fictional universe such as Star Wars where the innerstellar distances are astronomical I imagine that a permanent address for a HEARTY ADVENTURER TYPE would be far more of an impossibility.
And since the guys at Bioware have already stated our charcters will be the type of person who likes a bit of the rough life and will get out there to fight the good/bad fight, or smuggle stuff, or as another poster already said, chop peoples heads off with a light saber, I doubt our toons will find much time or reason to sit back and open up a Twi'lek haberdashery.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
What would your friends and family say if you lived out of yoru vehicle?
Even Luke and Mara, Han and Leia, Boba Fett, etc. etc. had ground based homes for R&R and kit.
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of pikies suddenly cried out in anger and were suddenly thirsty for another Stella Artois and wanted this blokes address. I fear something terrible will happen.
Being someone who spends a big part of their year travelling on the ocean I find your assumptions not only narrow-minded but a wee bit insulting, Mr. OP. People whose profession or life style keeps them travelling means having a true set address is not a fact of life, mainly, at least in my case, due to paying for and continuing to pay the upkeep for a domocile you would only live in a few weeks a year simply isn't a financial possibility. And that's just here on planet earth. In a fictional universe such as Star Wars where the innerstellar distances are astronomical I imagine that a permanent address for a HEARTY ADVENTURER TYPE would be far more of an impossibility.
And since the guys at Bioware have already stated our charcters will be the type of person who likes a bit of the rough life and will get out there to fight the good/bad fight, or smuggle stuff, or as another poster already said, chop peoples heads off with a light saber, I doubt our toons will find much time or reason to sit back and open up a Twi'lek haberdashery.
That and the fact that ALL inhabitants of the SWTOR Galaxy can not swim probably makes them avoid planetary homes. I mean, with space being made all of tunnels, you can't even get lost in space!
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
What would your friends and family say if you lived out of yoru vehicle?
Even Luke and Mara, Han and Leia, Boba Fett, etc. etc. had ground based homes for R&R and kit.
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of pikies suddenly cried out in anger and were suddenly thirsty for another Stella Artois and wanted this blokes address. I fear something terrible will happen.
Being someone who spends a big part of their year travelling on the ocean I find your assumptions not only narrow-minded but a wee bit insulting, Mr. OP. People whose profession or life style keeps them travelling means having a true set address is not a fact of life, mainly, at least in my case, due to paying for and continuing to pay the upkeep for a domocile you would only live in a few weeks a year simply isn't a financial possibility. And that's just here on planet earth. In a fictional universe such as Star Wars where the innerstellar distances are astronomical I imagine that a permanent address for a HEARTY ADVENTURER TYPE would be far more of an impossibility.
And since the guys at Bioware have already stated our charcters will be the type of person who likes a bit of the rough life and will get out there to fight the good/bad fight, or smuggle stuff, or as another poster already said, chop peoples heads off with a light saber, I doubt our toons will find much time or reason to sit back and open up a Twi'lek haberdashery.
That and the fact that ALL inhabitants of the SWTOR Galaxy can not swim probably makes them avoid planetary homes. I mean, with space being made all of tunnels, you can't even get lost in space!
Yes the no swimming in SWTOR, just like no mounts in GW2, are a bit strange to me, but both were left out for game mechanic reasons, so its just something we will have to get used to. However are you implying that Bioware deciding to give players a home AND make that home mobile is the same thing as NOT adding a housing feature? If so your logic is a bit warped.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
Its painfully obvious that SWGmodAlpha is a bitter swg player. Its ok man, let it out. We all have our ways of grieving. SWG is my favorite mmo of all time and its in the top 10 video games Ive played, ever.
I hope these threads youre making help you with your grieving process and you can start enjoying games on their own merits again.
If I had a giant car with with the same amount of room as my current apartment I would be forced to say...
d00d Im totally pimpin that car w00t w000t! o.o
Too bad I cant drive at all and Ill probably smash into a wall
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Hehe, you already said that in another thread, OP. The one where you claim there is no player housing nor crafting in Swtor. But apparently you thought it was so funny that it deserved its own thread. Oh dear ...
Like I told you before, you are confusing our 21st century reality with a sci-fi, fictional one where people get to fly commodious and spiffy spaceships. A worrisome delusion.
Anyway, The player ships are much more home than you will ever get in most themepark mmorpgs and you are in fact ripping on a pretty positive aspect of Swtor. Good luck with that ^_^
The problem with this whole housing argument for me is exactly how many homes would I need to build/purchase AND outfit? One for each world I visit? Maybe every other world? I know, only the worlds I visit a lot! Oh crap, we've been told we will have reason to go back and visit earlier worlds later in the game . . .
This version of player housing is much more feasible AND means that I don't have to travel back to other planets is I need something I have stored in my "house". Instead I just go to my ship and get it. Smarter and much more the common sense approach.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
I'm afraid of thinking that SWG demise is entirely a Lucasarts decision because they don't want people returning to the game after they realize that SWTOR is just a shallow audio/story driven themepark game.
What would my friends and family say if I lived out of an RV that could fly, had a fuel mileage comparable to a nuclear submarine, and was armed to the teeth? They'd probably ask where I got it from, and how they could do the same thing. Living out of a starship sounds way better than having to deal with property taxes, solicitors, and the general unrest that happens every time the planet you live on happens to switch governments or come under attack by a fleet of some sort, as tends to happen in the star wars universe.
OP, no matter how many flamebait posts you make or how many tantrums you throw, SWG is dead. Please, accept it and move on. Fine, we get that you're pissed that Bioware isn't designing the games to your specifications. So what, if you don't like it noone is forcing you to play. Find a game that offers what you want and stay there.
You mean all those people who own and live in motor homes and big freaking yachts are weird?
I woulda thought owning a ship large enough to live on would be a mark of gratuitious wealth really. At the least a mark of good connections and status in one form or another.
Like other's say, owning a vehicle larger than most people's homes seems like quite the piece to brag over. And there's a lotta people in real life who live in motor homes constantly travelling and what-not.
Comparing a big damn spaceship to a car is, while mildly humorous, a very inaccurate comparision of the purpose and design of the vehicles.
Ok because you are obviously a left wing democrat you can only buy a Toyota Prius and must live in it.
LOL
Btw, people that own yachts and motor homes use them for vaction or travel in 9/10 instances. They have real homes to live in.
Sorta like this? Having a house (palace) and yacht (sail barge) is for the slow, the fat, I assume that is what Hutts are, and the rich as observed in Star Wars. Pretty sure Jabba had a sweet ride for intergalactic travel as well. You only get one, and you get the most useful one. If you could also be fat and slow then maybe you would also get all 3/3 options for pimpin your toon.
Lol, I'm not venting over SWG really as much as I am pointing out that TOR is not all that.
For the record, those that made comments about the other thread, the OP asked me to start new posts so as not to derail his Budget discussion. thanks for caring.
Like I said, you can make all the arguments you want about not having ground based housing as acceptable, and I can disagree all I want. Bottom line is that anyone that reads SW books or comics knows that the main characters did not live in their ships as a primary residence. Lack of options is lack of game play, IMO.
Lol, I'm not venting over SWG really as much as I am pointing out that TOR is not all that.
For the record, those that made comments about the other thread, the OP asked me to start new posts so as not to derail his Budget discussion. thanks for caring.
Ah that explains. Thought you were on somekind of an ego trip here.
Like I said, you can make all the arguments you want about not having ground based housing as acceptable, and I can disagree all I want. Bottom line is that anyone that reads SW books or comics knows that the main characters did not live in their ships as a primary residence. Lack of options is lack of game play, IMO.
TIME WILL TELL.
Yeah, but like I said: "The player ships are much more 'home' than you will ever get in most themepark mmorpgs and you are in fact ripping on a pretty positive aspect of Swtor."
Sure I'd like ground based housing in addition and have one of the planets to really call home, but I am not nagging about it because of those player ships being a pretty damn fine alternative. I know first hand how people have begged and cried for player housing in themepark games like WOW for years and never got it, heck, even EVE is now finally offering 'player homes' after 8 years of development and that is a sandbox ...
Bioware is filling in that need already at launch with those player ships. Props to them.
@ OP: give it a rest already man, you're flooding these boards with hate & bash posts. You come forth like a child whose parrents didn't buy him the toy he wants. It's obviously that TOR and themepark MMO's in general are not for you, why wasting your time here?
Can't you find a sandbox MMO of your liking and spend your time and energy there?
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I agree, both TBH.
This is what a hobo is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobo
from wikipedia:
A hobo is a migratory worker or homeless vagabond, often penniless. The term originated in the Western—probably Northwestern—United States during the last decade of the 19th century.[1] Unlike tramps, who work only when they are forced to, and bums, who do not work at all, hobos are workers who wander.[1][2]
actually likely won't be able to do interiors at launch and not sure how much exterior customization will be available. we we be able to upgrade things like weapons and shields but no idea how much those will show
edit: http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/367/feature/5195/Space-Combat-Presentation.html/page/1
Mods as it stands right now are purely functional, such as weapons, shields, etc. Cosmetic modifications to the ship (such as hanging a painting up on your wall) are supported in the game tech, but are not currently available.
...huh? Feck that prius drives like crap.
I'll keep my Civic. And how does lording wealth over people by buying and living in huge vehicles equate to being a democrat?
Actually not really. What you perceive them as being used by paints your perception of how they are used by in large.
You seem to be thinking of them within the context of middle age families and people who are effectively tied down for a living. Your comment completely ignores a very large segment of motorhoming lifestyle of couples and well-to-do (or even nromal) folk that truly don't live at a gounded or 'landlocked' home.
As an aside, can you keep mindless political wangwaving out of topics they make no sense in, especially when it doesn't even make sense in context?
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
Thank you Captain Obvious, you saved us!
Well, we can have wishes, no?
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Wishes and expectations are two different things, while you may wish we had those things, the OP obviously expects them in an MMO.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Ah I see... so essentially what modern locust capitalism all wants us to be...
Cancel that. It's a game forum, Elikal! What are you thinking! >.<
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
I have a bad feeling about this.
What I am basically hearing is that the focus of this game is only on your character and not the geo-political and social economic issues we read about and see in all the comics, books and movies.
So if I'm listening your telling me TOR will play like KOTOR, only online and with more and better graphics?
To an extent yes.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
It will play like a themepark MMORPG.
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of pikies suddenly cried out in anger and were suddenly thirsty for another Stella Artois and wanted this blokes address. I fear something terrible will happen.
Being someone who spends a big part of their year travelling on the ocean I find your assumptions not only narrow-minded but a wee bit insulting, Mr. OP. People whose profession or life style keeps them travelling means having a true set address is not a fact of life, mainly, at least in my case, due to paying for and continuing to pay the upkeep for a domocile you would only live in a few weeks a year simply isn't a financial possibility. And that's just here on planet earth. In a fictional universe such as Star Wars where the innerstellar distances are astronomical I imagine that a permanent address for a HEARTY ADVENTURER TYPE would be far more of an impossibility.
And since the guys at Bioware have already stated our charcters will be the type of person who likes a bit of the rough life and will get out there to fight the good/bad fight, or smuggle stuff, or as another poster already said, chop peoples heads off with a light saber, I doubt our toons will find much time or reason to sit back and open up a Twi'lek haberdashery.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
That and the fact that ALL inhabitants of the SWTOR Galaxy can not swim probably makes them avoid planetary homes. I mean, with space being made all of tunnels, you can't even get lost in space!
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Yes the no swimming in SWTOR, just like no mounts in GW2, are a bit strange to me, but both were left out for game mechanic reasons, so its just something we will have to get used to. However are you implying that Bioware deciding to give players a home AND make that home mobile is the same thing as NOT adding a housing feature? If so your logic is a bit warped.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
Its painfully obvious that SWGmodAlpha is a bitter swg player. Its ok man, let it out. We all have our ways of grieving. SWG is my favorite mmo of all time and its in the top 10 video games Ive played, ever.
I hope these threads youre making help you with your grieving process and you can start enjoying games on their own merits again.
If I had a giant car with with the same amount of room as my current apartment I would be forced to say...
d00d Im totally pimpin that car w00t w000t! o.o
Too bad I cant drive at all and Ill probably smash into a wall
''/\/\'' Posted using Iphone bunni
( o.o)
(")(")
**This bunny was cloned from bunnies belonging to Gobla and is part of the Quizzical Fanclub and the The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club**
I thought they live in poorly constructed cardboard homes?
Hehe, you already said that in another thread, OP. The one where you claim there is no player housing nor crafting in Swtor. But apparently you thought it was so funny that it deserved its own thread. Oh dear ...
Like I told you before, you are confusing our 21st century reality with a sci-fi, fictional one where people get to fly commodious and spiffy spaceships. A worrisome delusion.
Anyway, The player ships are much more home than you will ever get in most themepark mmorpgs and you are in fact ripping on a pretty positive aspect of Swtor. Good luck with that ^_^
My brand new bloggity blog.
The problem with this whole housing argument for me is exactly how many homes would I need to build/purchase AND outfit? One for each world I visit? Maybe every other world? I know, only the worlds I visit a lot! Oh crap, we've been told we will have reason to go back and visit earlier worlds later in the game . . .
This version of player housing is much more feasible AND means that I don't have to travel back to other planets is I need something I have stored in my "house". Instead I just go to my ship and get it. Smarter and much more the common sense approach.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
I'm afraid of thinking that SWG demise is entirely a Lucasarts decision because they don't want people returning to the game after they realize that SWTOR is just a shallow audio/story driven themepark game.
What would my friends and family say if I lived out of an RV that could fly, had a fuel mileage comparable to a nuclear submarine, and was armed to the teeth? They'd probably ask where I got it from, and how they could do the same thing. Living out of a starship sounds way better than having to deal with property taxes, solicitors, and the general unrest that happens every time the planet you live on happens to switch governments or come under attack by a fleet of some sort, as tends to happen in the star wars universe.
OP, no matter how many flamebait posts you make or how many tantrums you throw, SWG is dead. Please, accept it and move on. Fine, we get that you're pissed that Bioware isn't designing the games to your specifications. So what, if you don't like it noone is forcing you to play. Find a game that offers what you want and stay there.
Sorta like this? Having a house (palace) and yacht (sail barge) is for the slow, the fat, I assume that is what Hutts are, and the rich as observed in Star Wars. Pretty sure Jabba had a sweet ride for intergalactic travel as well. You only get one, and you get the most useful one. If you could also be fat and slow then maybe you would also get all 3/3 options for pimpin your toon.
Lol, I'm not venting over SWG really as much as I am pointing out that TOR is not all that.
For the record, those that made comments about the other thread, the OP asked me to start new posts so as not to derail his Budget discussion. thanks for caring.
Like I said, you can make all the arguments you want about not having ground based housing as acceptable, and I can disagree all I want. Bottom line is that anyone that reads SW books or comics knows that the main characters did not live in their ships as a primary residence. Lack of options is lack of game play, IMO.
TIME WILL TELL.
My brand new bloggity blog.
@ OP: give it a rest already man, you're flooding these boards with hate & bash posts. You come forth like a child whose parrents didn't buy him the toy he wants. It's obviously that TOR and themepark MMO's in general are not for you, why wasting your time here?
Can't you find a sandbox MMO of your liking and spend your time and energy there?
Wish I had a starship to live on. Soon be off this freaking planet, wretched hive of scum and villainy.